Why you should show respect for mods and Epic

[Wisdom Thumbs]

EDIT: please remember that this thread isn't perfect and if there is anything I should have said or should not have said, I can't help it. If a Moderator has to come in and close the thread, I'm sorry for making a waste of their time.

Lately, I've been seeing more and more people complaining about being banned, receiving warnings, or just *****ing about Epic's so-called lack of interest in its community of fans. This is not only ignorant, it's down-right offensive.

Well, it needs to stop, and I believe that information and eductation is the best way to make that happen. Please remember that anything and everything I say in this thread is not meant to be offensive to any specific member of the forum, group of members, or any part of Epic, Moderators and Admin alike. If you do find this offensive, then I am truly sorry and hope that you continue to read and find out why you are offended. Thank you.

Having been a moderator myself, I sympathize with Epic and this forum's Mods. However, since I have received warnings from Moderators on this forum, I also sympathize with my fellow posters and thread-makers. Epic's warnings and bans can sometimes seem to be for no reason, or for too little reason, but you have to remember that this is a MATURE forum, for MATURE people. Gears of War is not a children's game, and it's official forum isn't for children either. Maybe I'm too young to be saying this, but people, if you can't act like a grownup on a MATURE forum, you have no business being here.

Moderators and Admin are only human. They get tired, they get angry, they pick favorites. The game designers are only human. Games are glitchy. Things don't behave like they should in real life. Things can often seem unfair, both on the forums and in Gears. Real life is unfair too, and I'm sure everybody here knows that. So in roundabout thinking, the game being unfair at times makes it MORE like real life, instead of taking away from its realism. As for Mods and Admin, these people have to get up every single day and keep all the spammers, flamers, trollers, hatemongerers, impressionable children and stalkers out of your life. Without them there would not only be a forum running the equivalent of internet hell, there would be no forum. They are doing their job, and if they don't do it perfectly, should you rant and rave for their blood?

Lately, there has been absolutely no time for the Mods and Admin to rest. Same goes for the game designers. They're having to spend a HUGE chunk of their time fixing mistakes, ironing out bugs, checking COUNTLESS threads/game-scenarios, and making it easier for you to do your thing. If you make a post that is offensive, even if it's not meant to be offensive, it is the Moderator's job to delete it. If you make a thread that calls for more glitch-fixing, when half the threads on the forum are on the same subject, it is the Moderator's job to lock it. And they can't waste half a day reading through a thread making sure everything checks out. For them it's a get-in-get-out, touch-and-go ordeal. This thread is on the same subject as this thread, however, it is less successful and the other thread has posed some serious and legitimate posts. I'll lock the less-useful thread to tidy up the clutter and make it easier for the better thread to get seen, and thus make a difference. This makes sense, correct?

I'm starting to go in circles now, so I think I'll stop before I wear out my keyboard, but please remember this:

Epic is working its ass off for you.

Being extra careful about following the rules is generally a good idea.

At the very least, respect the person with the gun.

[lasagnaW/Ocheese?]

"information and eductation"

I stopped reading after there.

[TheronWarrior]

you want some cheese with that wine?

[Wisdom Thumbs]

Pardon me while I hop down from my high chair.

[quahgg]

Speaking as a Moderator of another site, most of you take for granted some of the leniency that you receive here. I don't get paid at my site, none of us do. If you talked to us the way I can only imagine you talk to the staff here, you'd not only encounter a earful right back at you; but you would be dealt with as soon as you proved that your problem rather than a person making a mistake. I figure it wouldn't be too long. That unfortunately, is the problem with company boards. They HAVE to remain politically correct and under bearing. The often hold their tongues not because they want to, but because they get paid to. It's sad that people take advantage of it in the first place, but there are always jerks out to ruin a peaceful gathering (Xbox Live anyone?). Hats off to you Thumbs.

[Aaronius]

I completely agree, Wisdom Thumbs

Of course the comunity want to get the glitches, bugs etc. solved, and I think Epic is doing their best to try to fix 'em. Just I believe that maybe is hard to understand why they're taking that time for their releases and so on, but as you said, they're human, not machines, and they need time for doing that.
I also agree about what did you say about moderators... They spend a huge amount of hours looking for irrelevant threads, and hardly ever someone notice that, as the designers, they aren't machines, they're humans.


Completely agree with you :D

[iamriddik]

if they are closing your thread cause its a duplicate, why dont they tell you where the duplicate is, or post a link to it?

[Wisdom Thumbs]

A quick forum search would bring up the thread. Use the search option if you want to find something important that isn't on the front page or is taking too long to find.

Thanks quahgg. I forgot to mention their having to keep the forums politically correct. Back when I was a mod on Gametalk (before it died, long before it crashed), any rascist threads left on the front page at the end of the day were a demerit and usually a warning. I finally quit because it was just too damn hard, and Gametalk was pretty mellow back then compared to what it was later.

Aaronius makes another good point: despite being permenantly grafted to their computers, Moderators are grown organically to save on steel and iron. Admins, however... No, JK. :p

[KILLTHEIF]

You put the sum of what I'v been thinking into 1 post

[4theLOVEofGEARZ]

oo okay..................

[Iduno]

There are mistakes then there are EPIC mistakes, like leaving obvious rants alone for ages while deleteing well thought out threads containing no swearing,flaming or other rulebreaking without any notice or even a lock first.

A lot of the modding seems to be erring on the side of censorship rather then modding when you look at this happening, the obvious rants with swearing and flameing stay longer because no-one weill take them seriously whilst the more well thought out ones which people may take seriously don't even get a lock before deletion.

[Wisdom Thumbs]

Sometimes possibly. There's usually a reason. Like...

...Tom Cruise! Every time.

But seriously, I've never actually seen what you're talking about happen, so I can't be sure. All the obvious rants are taken care of pretty much the moment the Mod lays eyes on them. The infamous case of BA, anyone?