The GoW2 MP Problems List

[xWKSxV00D00x]

Ok, i was talking with some friends and i decided to make this thread
this will be a complete list of things you think Epic should fix about the MP
I played Gears of War 1, my favorite 360 game, I am dissapointed at this..."multiplayer game"

i will add to the list and check daily

but you have to keep this thread alive by posting so Epic can fix the problems




lets get started




Weapon issues:

Lancer - When revved seems impossible to lower, looks like a vaccum sucks you in as well, one of the largest issues talked about

Hammerburst - Sometimes the aiming can be a little random

Shotgun - Feels like you might as well be throwing marshmallows at the enemy sometimes, when blindfired off host bullets lag to the ground or behind enemy, stopping power is very buggy, the range feels like a lancer, 2 piece is bull****

Longshot - My favorite weapon was killed in this game...pop shots are gone, headshots are very inconsistent, im glad they took away active downs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o47cyvCUlik&feature=related

Torque Bow - The active reload effect is insane, almost 1 second to charge it up, hardly fair

Snub pistol - no problems seen

Boltok pistol - seems better than sniper at times with headshots

Gorgon Pistol - not really worth using, equivalent to a bb gun, increase the damage maybe?

Smoke Grenade - The radius is unbelievable, inconsistent knock down times, usually comes with a delayed explosion, if you're on stairs you look like a damn rag doll

Ink Grenade - The radius can be a little insane, plus they can effect you through a wall? How?

Frag Grenade - When stuck to a wall, almost no chance of living, timer increase maybe?

Mortar - Blindfires?...why

Mulcher - no problems seen

Hammer of Dawn - Sometimes beam does not come down, blindfire is very unreliable

Boomshot - I have had explosions right next to an enemy and they do not die, inconsistent explosion radius

Boomshield - The any weapon with boomshield glitch needs to be fixed ASAP, the boomshield if basically a portable glitch right now


Characters:

Palace guard?
The Chairman?


Matchmaking:

Tried to eliminate lag to stop complaints, IMO i think Gears of War 1 had a better MP hosting set up. A regional filter seems like an amazing idea right now. **** yo servers

I don't know anyone that actually likes THIS ranking system, the idea of ranks is great, but the system is terrible

Random host - Why...i have been in matches that glitch you BACK over or behind cover because of lag, glitching back behind cover never happened in Gears 1, to me at least



MP maps:

Great job, but im sure lots of people miss Fuel Depot and Escalation more than Tyro Station and Mansion

I have also noticed very glitchy cover. Sometimes i dive and somehow get stuck on cover.


That is all that i can think of right now

If i missed something please post a reply and i will add it

MAYBE Epic will come to this for update ideas? We just have to keep this thread alive

Thanks for your time :D

[sliderjr2]

Good list. I agree with it all. Seriously, My Co-workers were wating for my review on Gears 2 before they were going to buy it. I told them not to unless they fix most of these issues.

[xWKSxV00D00x]

thanks, i love the game because its so addicting, but the issues make it unbearible

[CS Shadow Fang]

I agree with everything you say. Especially the sniper. I don't mind if they took off active downs, that was a good thing. But they should had left it at that. Now it is the most useless weapon in the game in MP. I could run around the map blind firing a B-pistol and get more head shots than actually trying to snipe with the new longshot.

[gowrules42]

Nice list man. I can't stand the shotgun in this game. In Gears 1, the best part was running around blindfiring a shotgun at everyone. In Gears 2, when i blindfire a shotgun, i feel like i can roadie run faster than my bullets. I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hope they fix that.

[xstev-Ox24]

I also agree with everything youre saying, im better than half the people out there in gears, and im a 3 gold bar rank. and whenever my friends arnt on ill be playin and get matched up with the worst people in the game i sware, and thats why my ranked isnt going up, I CANT CARRY MY TEAM ALLLL THE TIIIME!!! IDK IF THIS HAPPENS WITH YOU GUYS TO BUT IT DOES IT TO ME.

[mdj2010]

Gorgon Pistol - basically to go in hand with the shield, personally I have no problem with this weapon.

Agree with others apart from the Sniper, I'm still great with that weapon, and pleased they took away the active downing, which was a noobs dream.

The shotgun/ lancer balancing is still a debatable one because of the game they want Gears 2 MP to be, but I can't argue that the Shotgun is too weak.

Also agree with the MP maps, why they put in Tyro is beyond me. They should have put in escalation with a worm going under the middle or something to create drop points.

I'm still loving Gears 2 (thank god for horde), but if they could patch these issues then they will once again be Epic. Oh and seriously 2.0 is too easy, that'd be a personal gripe of mine. Anyone prepared to waste their time repeating parts of the campaign over and over can achieve it without any skill.

[qp WARPIG qp]

The sniper rifle is fine just because you cant one shot down anymore alot of people cry, the boltok is fine, the only problem in this game is cliffy b said there will be no lag and well it lags in every room and also he did somthing to the shotgun because when its really laggy every weapon still fires except for the shot gun but i did hear epic is not changing anything with weapons so we just have to deal with it so everyone get on gears one and sell your gears two. oh and another thing I want to play americans im so sick of logging in and finding a game with people from another country they always have host and there anoying.

[mdj2010]

The sniper rifle is fine just because you cant one shot down anymore alot of people cry, the boltok is fine, the only problem in this game is cliffy b said there will be no lag and well it lags in every room and also he did somthing to the shotgun because when its really laggy every weapon still fires except for the shot gun but i did hear epic is not changing anything with weapons so we just have to deal with it so everyone get on gears one and sell your gears two. oh and another thing I want to play americans im so sick of logging in and finding a game with people from another country they always have host and there anoying.

I'm sure people from other countries share your view. Rude.

[K9 & Dark Champ]

Matchmaking:

Tried to eliminate lag to stop complaints, IMO i think Gears of War 1 was fine

I don't know anyone that actually likes THIS ranking system, the idea of ranks is great, but the system is terrible

Random host - Why...i have been in matches that glitch you BACK over or behind cover because of lag, never happend in Gears 1

Never happened in Gears 1!?!?

Have you ever played Gears 1???

[xlShadowNexuslx]

Even after the patch was released, the same problems exist. The Chainsaw is still unstopable. And the Boomshield glitch needs to be patched ASAP. Its annoying to see every kid and their boys using that stupid glitch and the only way to stop it is by shooting them in the foot (which does minimal damage) or by Chainsawing them.

[xWKSxV00D00x]

I ment that glitching back behind cover rarely (if ever) happened in Gears 1, its much more noticable in Gears 2

[cleopatrudo]

Shotgun - Feels like you might as well be throwing marshmallows at the enemy sometimes, when blindfired off host bullets lag to the ground or behind enemy, stopping power is very buggy, the range feels like a lancer


this is my major concern...shotgun is useless in the game, the weapon is so laggy that when I shoot while moving the bullets either hit next to my feet or behind me.

[CS Shadow Fang]

The sniper rifle is fine just because you cant one shot down anymore alot of people cry, the boltok is fine, the only problem in this game is cliffy b said there will be no lag and well it lags in every room and also he did somthing to the shotgun because when its really laggy every weapon still fires except for the shot gun but i did hear epic is not changing anything with weapons so we just have to deal with it so everyone get on gears one and sell your gears two. oh and another thing I want to play americans im so sick of logging in and finding a game with people from another country they always have host and there anoying.

O key maybe if you use the sniper every game you play you may get about 3 head shots if your lucky. In Gears 1 I could use the sniper every other game and get an average of 10 head shots, not annex by the way, but now i can't get hardly 1. Also the new shotgun can be fixed a little. I don't want it to be as good as the first but i do want to be able to stand right behind someone that doesn't know where i am and kill them in 1 shot 95% of the time, not 50% like it is now.

[lupus777]

agree with everything espeacilly the boomshield, my friend is making a list of everone who does it his game along with pictures. get ready to be named a shamed noobs!!!!!

Favourte qoute: its not a glitch its a super move.
idiot

[xWKSxV00D00x]

bumpity bump

[qp WARPIG qp]

MDJ2010

I pay for it I have a right to complain so share my veiw dont get butt hurt and cry, besides this game sucks they f@#ked up my favorite game thanks epic I dont even want to play anymore you should be fired cliffy b unreal tournament sucked and gears one was obviously a mistake because you are horrible

[xGTMxLegend]

I say the three things they need to fix first three things are

1) Lag and Host
2)Shield/body shield glitch
3)Shotgun( it shoots down because of lag? gears 1 didn't do that)

1) It was less lagging in the first one, Epic i don't know what u did but fix it. Replace the host and put dictated servers or something. I don't care just fix it. It kinds of kills it.

2) This glitch kills submission and every map that has the shield in it. Watch it EPIC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHB2AbPQE_s

3) fixed the shotgun it shoots down when it little lagging gears 1 never did that even lagging to the point u were skiping. fix it

[xSniperKingx]

Among those, I find that my biggest problem is the chainsaw issue. Somebody please please tell me what's the easiest way to cancel sombody's revved saw before it reaches me. I'm constantly getting turned into gibs no matter how many times I melee or shoot them whilst the person is approaching me.

[aftermath6669]

I agree with basically everything stated in that list, except ink gernades i have noticed the radius be a bit extreme sometimes. I could be completely out of the gas and still get downed rather quickly.

I agree somewhat with the flashback maps. To me tyro was a waste in gears 1 and I still think that in gears 2. I would love to see clock tower, fuel depot, and escalation.

As for horde goes I love it. But it does get boring rather quickly because each set of 10 waves are identical. I would love to see the reapers make an apperence randomly, or possibly bosses at certain levels.

[xiaolinstyle]

What I dont understand is how that you guys can put so much time into a product and yet somehow manage to release GARBAGE.

You have a track record for good and even great products, so I know you KNOW how to do this right.

Why? Why would you release Gears 2 in this state? Multiplayer is plainly BROKEN. Coop is ...well..I cant even be kind about this its ****. Its as if you DONT want us to play online. How can you expect us to want to go through EVERY ****ING CHAPTER to find someone to play coop online with? Are you retarded? Did someone hit you in the head with something heavy?

I just cant understand how a company with such great online games could have thought that this was a good business plan.

I bought Gears of War 2 without reading even one review, something I NEVER do, because I loved the first one and I just KNEW you guys would do a good if not better job with the second.

If I had only known. I am trading this POS game in for something else and I am not spending any more money on Epic games till you guys APOLOGIZE for defrauding me.

[darksoldier2004]

The Shotgun hasn't change from Gears 1. I think. It's still too powerful. It feels like a mini - Boomshot.

[xlShadowNexuslx]

The Shotgun power in Gears 2 is too powerful when you have host, it's like a wide spread lancer with a delay shot. And i've noticed when you play at 11 PM Central, there is NO lag, everything is perfect and clean. Until 4:30 AM. Does EPIC even have a morning/afternoon networking team?

[legendzxverboeh]

alot of valid points.. but epic will ignore they got our money.. paying for a beta pfft...

[LiGhTwOlF1308]

Let me add something to your list: HoD (Hammer of Dawn)

Hammer of Dawn:Can't blindfire, you can in Gears 1.
example: Day One map there will spawn an Longshot and a HoD while your on your balcony you will stand and aim on the sniper while the sniper will give you an headshot, i also think the HoD will be to OverPowered then,but lucky theyput a small beam into the aim system to kill your enemy harder.

[darksoldier2004]

Gamebattles said that the Lancer shot is long range and the Hammerburst is hard to knock down someone in a match.

[xSniperKingx]

I beg of you Epic, I know this game is at least a 9 out of 10, but for the love of God fix chainsaws, give us some way to stop an oncoming attack...

[Some Killers]

Chainsaw is definitly a POS, Hammerburst is a good weapon, but the accuracy can tend to roam..
Also beat downs, Anyone else think its a little bit too much when you hit someone?
Its almost impossible to dodge a beat down, and the stun time is enough to get you owned.

[Some Killers]

Chainsaw is definitly a POS, Hammerburst is a good weapon, but the accuracy can tend to roam..
Also beat downs, Anyone else think its a little bit too much when you hit someone?
Its almost impossible to dodge a beat down, and the stun time is enough to get you owned.

[AcidGlow]

I found the boomshot to be extremely weak for a *1 shot reload explosive weapon*.. the blast radius damage is pathetic... it's like you need a direct shot to kill and which it will ever kill. It's meant to be like an arcing rocket launcher/instant exploding grenade launcher.. but the very short blast radius is so useless. Yet when the CPU uses it, they get a much bigger blast radius kill on us... bah.

[Kevlar]

In Gears 1 where you can pick your host type of match and map is so much better than this crappy voting system and it takes AGES and i mean AGES to find players then find another team to play against.Does anyone agree?

[Death DeaIerr]

I also agree with everything everyone is saying. Another thing that I can't stand is the host of matches quitting because they are getting pwned and my team ends up with the loss and in many scenarios lose rank for it which is just ridiculous.

[lBlest]

i agree with all

snipe: better that noobs can't active down, but u can hit the head or the throat and there head won't pop off.

lag/host : the lag is stupid i don't play the game any more really because of it. m8's invite me and i say no. not till they sort the lag out. but one of the reasons is because they put british people in a american room. whats that about it should be local over foriegn.

rank system : is a load of ****. i can win about 10 games in a row and u still don't go up i'm a gold sergant. never left it. even when i clutched 4v1 and 5v1 in matchs. it should be based of ur kills and deaths not who wins. the ****s player can get to top rank and neva really get any kills. but i guy that gets a average of 5 or more kills can't. throw it in the trash no one even likes halo in less ur a noob. halo 3 ruined it.

shotgun : fine accept u can hit some one dead on aiming in but u can't blindfire it as powerful in the same spot. apart from that it's down to lag or ur ****.

boomshot : like the guy who made this thread said can shoot right at there feet but won't kill them half the time, but they can fire it right pass ur back well off and it kills you.

lancer: should be chucked. lets face it. it's for noobs who can't kill apart from chainsawing they just made it ten times easyer for them to be able to kill ya with it. should of left it the way it was plus if it's laggy the chances are u won't win the chainsaw battles ever. since theres button lag.

hosting system: lets face it just put it back to the old system were u could see the ping to see how strong the host was to ur connection. i think if they did that like every game no one would be really be able to complain about lag inless there was some bug in the game. so every one should say if wewant the old system back or not so epic knows how we feel about it.

no comments from noobs who don't have a ****ing clue what ur talking about. most annoying thing when they havn't even really played gow1 properly

[lBlest]

alot of valid points.. but epic will ignore they got our money.. paying for a beta pfft...

lags bad ya alot of the times but i still wouldn't play that rip cod waw they didn't change anything about it accept the maps and weapons. should of just been called cod4 in the past because that what it is.

[II Rave]

100% agreed, best thing to do with the smoke/stun is to take it away or just have the stun affect when frag tagged to a wall, ive died from being tossed in the air over and over on the Map day one.. if you want to try it get a friend to tag the stairs leading up to one of the ledges..

[II Rave]

lag/host : the lag is stupid i don't play the game any more really because of it. m8's invite me and i say no. not till they sort the lag out. but one of the reasons is because they put british people in a american room. whats that about it should be local over foriegn.


My problem exacly!! rearly will i find myself playing with British, even in the middle of our day around 1pm its ****ing stupid, CALL OF DUTY !! COPY THEM BY PUTTING AN OPTION FOR LOCAL CONECTIONS OVER FOREIGN

[jjduranisonfire]

yes, i totally agree with EVERYTHING that you have mentioned!

EPIC, please for the sake of your fans fix these problems TODAY!!!!

everyone on multiplayer cannot stand how you could go from how great GOW was to this...it makes no sense at all!

Cliffy, i understand that running around and blind-firing people gladiator style wasn't "your view" of gears of war, but we are the one's who paid $60-$70 for it! let the fans regulate how the game is played!! if you just fix the problems listed i guarantee EVERYONE will be satisfied...of course i doubt you do anything about it because you're so filty f***ing rich now from us that you could care less of how terrible gears 2 is. im terribly disappointed in myself for reserving what seems to us a beta of the first gears, just slightly better graphics. the game should be called gears of war 0.5!!!

it's so frustrating when a melee is stronger than a freaking shotgun, i mean c'mon!! why is it that i can walk up to someone while they're not looking, put my shotgun to their back, shoot them, and all they do is grunt??

gears went from the best game ever to trying to be like halo 3 (which is terrible!). GOW2 is now a game where everyone ONLY chainsaws, melee, or camp the entire time....this game has become something strictly for the n00bz to win at.

...and the host and ranking system?? what a joke!! we all think that its f***ing retarded!! at least one person quits every match, and if the host quits it makes everyone quit therefore it hurts your ranking. i've had friends with 3 gold bars drop down to 2 after the host quits and it takes them FOREVER to get it back up...ridiculous!

yes, of course we all still play the game, but we are ALL very unsatisfied! WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET YOU TO HEAR OUR VOICE???????????

[Mikefreckles]

I have played both Gears of War games, Just want to compare the two Multi-player systems:

Gears 1

- Quit game option ( which was a good thing in my eyes)

- Players are allowed to join mid-game (which made the quitting tolerable)

- Much faster connection time

- The user interface for the system was nothing to brag about (very plain, but hell it worked)

- Didn't like that every player had to be ready to be able to start the match ( just start the match and let them stand there like morons and get killed, it's their own fault)

- Both teams stuck together after match and just kept going, no going back to the menu's

Gears 2

- Love the new user interface and options

- Can't quit if I NEED to ( bad connection or lag)

- Hate when your whole team quits and its 1 vs 5 and you have no chance ( if players were allowed to join mid-match like the first one, problem solved)

- Wish you could pick the game you would like to play

- Why can't players stick together (both teams) in the match lobby and just keep going?

If anyone agrees or disagrees let me know, if I should add something or take something away, just post a reply. I just really wish they would fix the multiplayer, but, let's be real, who the hell am I? My voice will most likely never be heard on the site just like most of he people who post comments. I do hope it is though.

[PR0JECTMAYH3MxX]

Ya lag definitely needs to be handled with because it is driving me insane. Smoke grenades and chainsaw bayonet also need to be fixed right away because it is not fair for other people who are trying to get better at the game to just get chainsawed from some noobs. The longshot seems to have been messed up too, even though I was never great with it (haha) it seems that it's not as good as before. FIX CHAINSAW, FIX CHAINSAW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PR0JECTMAYH3MxX]

I have played both Gears of War games, Just want to compare the two Multi-player systems:

Gears 1

- Quit game option ( which was a good thing in my eyes)

- Players are allowed to join mid-game (which made the quitting tolerable)

- Much faster connection time

- The user interface for the system was nothing to brag about (very plain, but hell it worked)

- Didn't like that every player had to be ready to be able to start the match ( just start the match and let them stand there like morons and get killed, it's their own fault)

- Both teams stuck together after match and just kept going, no going back to the menu's

Gears 2

- Love the new user interface and options

- Can't quit if I NEED to ( bad connection or lag)

- Hate when your whole team quits and its 1 vs 5 and you have no chance ( if players were allowed to join mid-match like the first one, problem solved)

- Wish you could pick the game you would like to play

- Why can't players stick together (both teams) in the match lobby and just keep going?

If anyone agrees or disagrees let me know, if I should add something or take something away, just post a reply. I just really wish they would fix the multiplayer, but, let's be real, who the hell am I? My voice will most likely never be heard on the site just like most of he people who post comments. I do hope it is though.

I agree with everything you say!

[xlShadowNexuslx]

The glitches and bugs in Gears 2 is outrageous i can't believe i paid $70 2 months in advance! All they had to do is upgrade the graphics and add new weapons and somehow fix the host / lag to gears 1 and then you have a perfect clean gears 2.

[BIGSEXY]

The list is great but i could get back into playing if they just fixed the shotgun i mean damn if they wanted to **** up the game they should of just taken the shotgun out altogether so i wouldnt have bothered to buy it in the first place. I feel like cliffy just mugged me in a back alley with a chainsaw for 65 bucks

[xWKSxV00D00x]

bumper cars!!! :D

[II DrEaMzZ xX]

I agree of wHaT U Say ThErEs a LoT Of PRoBlEmZ In DiZz GaMe

[Nirvana]

THANKS EPIC.
for ruining a perfectly good game structure and churning out this inconsistent crap, makes **** players look good, flashing ranks they don't deserve and making it so a disabled monkey could beat a competent player with a shotgun by throwing a smoke a mile away, knocking him down and running at him with a chainsaw.

Before you delete my post or ban me consider while sitting in your gold mansions on mountains of our money, what happened to customer satisfaction?

[HarryHill]

Epic have a lot of pizzed off customers!

[II DrEaMzZ xX]

They took away the fun stuff of da longshot that was Gettin Popshots n is way 2 hard get Blindfires in this GaMe


What happen to Fuel Depot N Escalation?????

[xSniperKingx]

I love this game to death, just fix the f***ing reach on the chainsaws. I though it was a chainsaw attached to a gun, not a streetlamp. :confused:

[xSniperKingx]

And by the way to whoever moderates these forums, an opinion should not be a reason to ban people from threads. Do that and you can explain to Epic why they lost a couple thousand of their customers...

[xWKSxV00D00x]

bumper me timbers

[bigsid2007]

the sheer pantsness of this game isnt just online, even in a game against bots on my spare xbox, the game lags, the bots keep rising off the floor and become impossible to kill. They can change weapons without actually moving and have insane stopping power. I personally think epic have made such a mistake, they will never make the changes needed. i dont even think they know how. for them to make even most of the changes we want to see, means they are admitting that the product the have produced is one of the worst mp games on the 360. No other game has arrived to my knowledge and been such a dissapointment to so many people...

[xWKSxV00D00x]

another bump

[Seckser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o47cyvCUlik&feature=related


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[MechaMarth]

Despite all the problems with mp, the one that should be fixed in the next patch is the wall hitting...

~MechaMarth

[C R A W L]

the sheer pantsness of this game isnt just online, even in a game against bots on my spare xbox, the game lags, the bots keep rising off the floor and become impossible to kill. They can change weapons without actually moving and have insane stopping power. I personally think epic have made such a mistake, they will never make the changes needed. i dont even think they know how. for them to make even most of the changes we want to see, means they are admitting that the product the have produced is one of the worst mp games on the 360. No other game has arrived to my knowledge and been such a dissapointment to so many people...

I agree with you 100% I tried playing a bot match or two and noticed the same buggy mess. It's not just the online portion it's the GAME itself. I do hope the changes are made because I played the hell out of Gears 1 and want to believe they'll fix 2 but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[matrixrory]

fuel depot has to be the worst map in gears one all people is camp in the middle and snipe both spawns how lame is that you can be in the middle of a map and spawns camp

[xWKSxV00D00x]

fuel depot has to be the worst map in gears one all people is camp in the middle and snipe both spawns how lame is that you can be in the middle of a map and spawns camp

sure for games where you can respawn
even then if you go back to Gears one and look for ranked matches im sure you will find most gridlock, fuel depot, escalation, and maybe clocktower

[roadrashjr]

Things Move Way to Slow ever try melee and then roll 3 sec delay...i miss gears 1=(

[angeezy]

Random host - Why...i have been in matches that glitch you BACK over or behind cover because of lag, glitching back behind cover never happened in Gears 1, to me at least


lol. i've actually gotten killed cause of that. smh.

[Defmeister]

How about the annoying forced pauses in between actions. That and the graphics, the new shotgun mechanics, the grenade death radius, and the smokes stuns are the biggest game breakers for me. I feel like the skill hill has been mowed over and everyone from the most talented gamers to your mom has been forced into a low learning curve random death fest. GOW1 was much more satisfying. You had to earn those kills and when you were on, everyone knew it. I can't bring myself to play GOW2 anymore as it doesn't give me feelings of intensity like the first game did. Until they get "the feel" of GOW back, I'll be playing GOW1. I highly doubt any number of patches can accomplish that. Hopefully they'll learn from this and go back to the roots with #3, much like the virtua fighter series did after the 3rd game and twisted metal black.

[Knockout53]

they have to fix the lancer vaccuumi hate being sucked in when omeone is running at me there should be a void in which if i shoot you in the face, you should get a blowback.

also host quitter must be terminated...adopt halos version in which it finds a new host. and no host advantage

shield glitch must be done away with. other than that, all is good. this is a great game.

[dsmooth480]

yo i totally agree this game if ****ing horrible. the ranking sytem sucks. I was a level 3 rank. i was liteary chillinh in the lobby then all of shudden my rank is gone. How do u explain that. That right u cant. Bassically cEPIC does not care about our problems. For example we sent many complaints about how much this game bull**** affect the gameplay. So u know what they did fix our problem. They gave us a ****ing map pack that we pay for. ARE U SERIOUS?! im already paid 60$ for your bull**** game why do i have to pay more for your mistkes u didnt fix. Also random lag out and bad matchmaking. No EPIC **** U

[jasva]

i see alot of complains about the MP but any answer from epic moderators, i hope is bcs they are working hard on fix all this MP awful thing

why any moderator or some1 from Epic answer something about what they had here ?

(in this specific thread)

[Chief_Draggin_Beef]

Definitely a good list. Epic's really got their work cut out for them if they plan on fixing these issues. Well im bored as hell so im gonna reply with what i think they should have done (should do) to some of the **** to help make this game what they said it was gonna and what it should be.

Lancer- They really need to bring back the chainsawer/meleeer (is that even a word) getting stunned with one bullet, that'll make them think twice about abusing that crap. The "vaccum" is just lag, they're actually closer to you than they appear on your screen, so you gotta shoot EARLY as hell if you wanna get a shot off them. Glad they lowered the rate of fire on the lancer too, host cant down ya in half a sec like the first one.

Hammerburst- One of my new fave weapons now, no complaints here

Shotgun- Ohhhh boy where to begin........ well aside from the obvious lag issues, my 2 main complaints are that often times when i try to popshot someone (usually someone coming in to 2 piece that i can see a mile away) it doesnt shoot until like a second after i lower my aim (happens as host too sometimes) and of course the used and abused 2 piecing is annoyin, i would reduce the stun time when hit from the front. Getting hit from the side or back should leave you more stunned cuz you're not ready for it. And the shotgun definitely needs an extended execution (how does the most used weapon not get one??) i would have him kick over the downed guy like he was gonna punch him, put the shotty in his mouth and blow him away

Longshot & Torque Bow- I agree completely, and often times people shooting at me with torque dont even hit me and i still die, wtf??

Snub Pistol- No problems really, i just wish it was louder (personal preference)

Boltok Pistol- God bless the new boltok, another one of my new faves

Grenades- The smoke grenade is no longer a smoke grenade its a damn flashbang (when was the last time you seen someone use a smoke in gears 2 to conceal their movement?) and should have been a pick-up. Planted grenades are extremely gay, they should have made it so that you HAVE to shoot them to detonate them, anyone can stick a grenade, hide and giggle like a schoolgirl when they see their name come up that they got someone. Forcing them to actually shoot the grenade requires more skill than just stick and run.

Mortar- HAHA totally agree there, ive never known an explosive to bounce off a wall back at you before, like the damn things made out of rubber or something. Blindfiring it should be more like having a slower boomshot or make it like the alternate fire of the flak cannon from unreal

Hammer of Dawn- IMO the actual beam after its shot is waaaayyyy powerful, i guess its more realistic but gears 1 you had to cook them for a some time before they popped

Boomshot- I totally agree, happens to me all the time

Boomshield- My only problem with this thing (aside from the glitches of course) is that its capable of stopping rockets, infinite amounts of bullets, grenades, smokes and all that, but cant stop a chainsaw?? they definitely need to initiate a duel if someone tries to chainsaw a boomshield, and if you win the duel you slap the **** outta him with the shield.

Thats all for weapons, as far as characters id love to see anya whoopin some locust ass, and **** it, get the remaining of the living carmine family in there. and how come they didnt have a special horde stage and map where you fight corpsers, berserkers and brumaks??

Random host sucks (thought they were doing away with that crap, no match is a fair one with host advantage) bad enough they still have it but now im forced to play with some host from sri lanka and **** where my bullets still havent to this day registered with his xbox.

And for cryin out loud why cant i pick what i wanna play, i havent played annex in hail in like 2 weeks already, geez. well thats my rant, and again good list. L8ters

[Lobsterbisk]

Never happened in Gears 1!?!?

Have you ever played Gears 1???

It barely happened in GOW1 because you were able to see the connection speed of host. Unless you chose a slow host.

[Firenite777]

Anyone else notice that if you roll at the right time, explosions from frags/boomshot won't kill you? :mad:

[jmolinar]

The best problem to all of this is just to pick up gears 1. there are still a lot of people playing it and you dont have to worry about noobs cause they are all on gears 2. It is fun and dosent get boring like gears 2. I also like it cause the game play and the characters are faster and it makes it more exciting.

[jmolinar]

i meant solution. lol

[Dr.Smalio]

The most disappointing thing about Gears of War 2 at the moment is the damn shotgun. Its really awesome that when you blind fire you shoot your feet off. Also with the boomshot as well. You blind fire with that and its shoots at your feet sometimes. Also when a boomshot goes off next to someone it doesnt blow the guy up. OH I forgot, a exploding grenade by your opponents feet doesnt kill then. Thats realistic right? I think the grenade tags are the worst idea that they came up with. Maybe when you get close to a damn frag grenade you might here something to warn you. Not, "Oh man i just blew up out of no where." The smoke grenades are worse. Why is it that when the smoke grenade blows up that you get up only when you completely stop moving. Meaning that if it blows up next to you and you are falling down stairs you dont get up until you fully stop moving. WHAT CRAP!! The matchmaking sucks. The idea of being stuck in a match and cant quit sucks. Random host sucks. The lancer is a weak pathetic gun. It takes a whole clip, without missing a shot, to take someone down. Chainsaw battles suck. Chainsaw is the cheapest thing in the game and its the only thing that works. Stumbling when chainsawing was the worst thing to take out. Ive been chainsawed when i am behind the opponent. Epic, you messed up the Multiplayer for this amazing game. If you dont fix it, I believe less and less people will play this game. Also take out the stupid glitches. Wouldnt you have learned from the first Gears? Wears the replay like Halo 3? Who wants to take photos when you are dead? Thats useless. Maybe you should program the game better before putting it out at all. Thats me venting. Good job with the list.

[xWKSxV00D00x]

as of now since this thread has many positive replies from actual gamers, i am talking with epic to have them at least look at this thread. Maybe we can get through to them


Spread this thread around if you can like in ur signature
That would defiantly help us out

[mr z0gs]

i think you guys should watch HITLER PLAYS GEARS OF WAR AND HATES IT on youtube ...

[BBQ:o]

Boomshot - Decrease ammo to 2.

Torque bow - decrease splash radius.

[komradkyle]

This new update did good to fix the cheating but it ends there. Really, HOST ADVANTAGE here we are in over 2 years and no attemp to fix host advantage instead they take our ability to shoot out of a roll which actually made us LESS powerful against host. We still have standardized durations of rounds which is BS. This still hands down is the second worse game I have ever played online when it comes to functionality of multiplayer shooters Turok was the worst

[RKO_281]

I played Warzone on Jacinto were one team had 5 players and my team had 2 (including me) can Epic fix it to were the game can't start until the teams are even?

[Fa1thFuLL]

bring back shooting out of roadie run ftw?

[Invader Skooj]

-Replace "A" for pickup meatshield with "Y" to avoid the annoying jumping. Y isn't used for anything except the rarely used execution.

-Lag Error message that pauses the game or some solution to the increasing number of Lag Switchers.

-Chainsaw nerfed. Make it easier to shoot it down to prevent "Invincible Saw Charges". I also notice to get the saw back up they just dodge forward. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM It has been screwing over skilled players.

-Lag issues like beginning without being able to do ANYTHING.

-I think a smoke stun animation would work better then the ragdolls to prevent the annoying random increase of knocked out time and general glitches.

-Lower "Downed Players" health. They seem to take more damage then when they were up.

-Dodging forward, no matter how close to a grenade, can help you live through grenade mines.

-Shotgun ranged damage still needs tweaking.

-Some solution to "Two Piecing" It has become way to easy to use.

-Map Cycle playlist where we can at least stay with a group of people.

-The Hammerburst is good but a little tweak would make it great to stop rushers.

[Ballz Travolta]

Bring back the Gears 1 SHOTGUN!!!!!

[x RaNdoM x]

dude gears one was fun.. but when i first played gears 2 i fell in loveee with it everything was PERFECT i dunno y everyone was complaining now after the update it NEEDS WORK or put it back.. i loved running around with the shot gun and just blind firing out of roadie .. that was my biggest complaint.. and the grenades were fine

[x RaNdoM x]

now there is a delay..wtf epic i mean im not retarded i dont need you to slow the game down for me any more then it is.. and i know they did it casue people were complaining about the smoke stun and then someone just roadie runnin up to them and shooting them once.. but thats the stunn why would you change the shotty.. it was fine... firing from the hip on the boomshot was messed up but thats about it..

[Invader Skooj]

dude gears one was fun.. but when i first played gears 2 i fell in loveee with it everything was PERFECT i dunno y everyone was complaining now after the update it NEEDS WORK or put it back.. i loved running around with the shot gun and just blind firing out of roadie .. that was my biggest complaint.. and the grenades were fine


Gears 2 is broken, the patch made it a bit more playable but now there are still major problems.

[htk face]

Take matchmaking out

Smoke nades that down people?

boomshot i see where they were going with it but now all u have to do is roll and ur home free ive dodged all 3 shots and 2 pieced shotty the guy
p.s. 2 piece is worse now thats all u do with a shotty now or ur screwed

now that i think about it this game is like halo3 with all its similar features except the 3rd person of course

torque bow takes no skill

sniper rifle is useless unless ur going against dumb people

[Invader Skooj]

I actually like the Knock out on the smoke grenade but they should make it an animation to prevent glitches.

[rG VITAL x]

Wow this is a great list!:D

My biggest concern is most definately the poor ranking system. Look at my friends ranking on gearsofwar.com... I know that its like, 8-10 games in a row, but he has 500 more kills than deaths and he is crazy good. But yet he is still a 2bar... GT(rG Karma)

I think Epic Games really needs to fix the ranking system. At least let people know how to get ranked up so they dont play not knowing how to get ranked. I think they EG should definately change ranking to EXP. instead.

AND OMG!!! EG NEEDS TO FIX HOST

[Wayfer Guy]

it'd be cool for gears 3 if you could do the player matches for private games, keep the matchmaking system for ranked, and do something about the lag

[Freezy]

i agree with everything u said, please EPIC.... FIX IT! :)

[craptastic]

ok first of all this is gears of war 2 ... they had alot of time to fix the mistakes they made with number 1 ... the campaign blew me away loved it but the online on gears 2 is random and most of the time stressful ... im lucky to find 1 or 2 games with a decent connection in a night of playing which is total bullsh*t ... the searching method for games in number 1 was definantly much better and this new patch hasnt seemed to fix anything i myself think it has the gameplay more laggy and random ... if they dont hurry the fark up and fix this heap of crap multiplayer they got going on im gonna move onto call of duty 5 world at war at least i can search for local games on it ... i love the idea of gears 2 but actually playing it is just a pain in the ahole ...

[Invader Skooj]

The Story mode was laughably bad.

They still need to fix the shotgun range damage and the two piecing. It's too easy to do and makes every shotgun fight a matter of "Who got the melee first"

[Truely One]

I might as well put my complaint.

Not as much as others (although I take their side), but can you please give us the option to customize our buttons. I really need to swap 'A' and 'RB' around. Thanks.

[xWKSxV00D00x]

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keep this thread alive

[Ricky4978]

Thank you for listing all the problems and i aggre 100 percent. I just wanted to make a suggestion on how to fix the problem of people constantly chain sawing. I suggest that epic put out an update that puts a limit on how much gas is in the tank of the lancer so after say 20 or 30 the cahinsaw runs out of gas and you cannot rev it again until the start of a new round. that all just wanted to give my input. Thanks.

[Omega360x]

What is killing this game is Lag and those damn Smokes. Pretty much everything on the OP list is cause from Lag.

[xboxhaxorz]

i agree with alot of them, espically that idiotic vacuum stop Fing copying halo 3 and inventing useless ideas, this is up there with that we both die melee from h3 THE MAIN REASON I STOPPED PLAYING THAT GAME

lag and host is terrible, i have fios 20/5 how many times do i get host umm maybe 20% of the time. seriously WHY does it pick the laggy host 99% of the time, thats why alot of people force host, because they pay for a amazing connection but gears does not acknowledge that so they have to MAKE gears acknowledge that they have the best connection

[SQUAREHEAD29]

Loving Gears of War 1 i bought the second. Campaign again GREAT! Of course gay unanswered questions but im not bothered that much about storyline. Horde a great addition to game its superb! =D

Problem? This is now 4 months from release and as far as i've seen THERE ARE NO FIXES TO THE GOD DAMN LAG!!! To make it worse the shotgun feels like crap sumtimes i mean im 3feet infront of him and shoot them 3 times. They turn round and go BLAM! i die...?

And the chainsaw is a joke there is no stun when you shoot them as they are reving im tired of dying to retatrded chainsaw noobs who abuse this crap.

It's got to the point where im not playing this game anymore. They have 4 months and have not sorted these problems. Im trading in this game next time i go into town and WILL NOT BE BUYING GEARS OF WAR 3. MULTIPLAYER IS CRAP. Dissapointed EPIC...=(

[arter1alblack11]

Alright as basically everyone who has ever played an online match of gears of war 2 knows the two-piece is ridiculous. It has almost completely taken out any form of actual "shotgun battles" and instead two players rush each other and slam on the B button, which is often followed by the complaint "WTF i beat down first blah blah blah."

Now in my opinion the solution is very simple, just add another delay like was added for the "roadie shotgun" this time for melee attacks. This will stop the ability to melee straight of of a roadie run, and boom! Shotgun battles return. Lag may continue EPIC come on at least give us shotgun battles back!

[plazma]

complete agree with everything.
also, the shotgun needs to be so much more reliable. if you shoot someone point blank range, half the time nothing happens. The chainsaw is a blackhole. Melee doesn't register half the time and people can shoot you through it. The lagg is the main problem. why doesn't epic get servers to host than players. Also, if you get hit by a smoke while on a ramp/stairs, you won't get up for about 10-20 seconds or you will randomly fall on the ground then suddenly teleport into the air and fall, commiting suicide.

One feature they could put in is when you down someone, no1 else can kill them unless the person who downed them is dead.

[DEMOLITION M4N]

i got hit by a smoke n i landed on top of the concrete cover in blood drive near the TB sniper spawn i couldnt get down n another time i got stuck on the ramp on river by the TB n couldnt get down. yes da chainsaw is a blackhole,host advantage wins games 90 percent of the time,and i agree to the delay on melee so it will stay the gay pcing. ive seen so many melee fights were peps just keepin missin wit da melee tryin to hit each other its a horrible scene to see.

[x CrazyCanuck]

I wish that the MP menu and setup could be the same in Gears 2 as in Gears 1, with Player and Ranked matches, except you should be able to invite people into ranked matches. None of this crappy matchmaking garbage for me, thank you.

[Invader Skooj]

Yes increase the accuracy on the Hammerburst to promote use of it. I love it but at far range it seems to shoot around my targets when he's right in the middle of the crosshairs. That's nice...

[therealgnu]

Just showed up to let the devs know that they haven't fixed their game yet. I payed $60 for it last year and I still can't take it online. 9 out of 10 times I start out a match without being able to arm myself with the guns on my back.

Are they working on a patch or are they snorting up all the cash?

I'm starting to hope that these devs start seeing the downfall of releasing this game with all these obvious problems. I hope it's as embarrassing as I'm thinking it is. And I hope that Gears 3 sales reflect this. Please, at the very least, hire beta testers for Gears 3 cause there really is noway some of this **** should have happened.

Fnck you again Epic. Your efforts in releasing the first two patches are still a fncking joke.

[therealgnu]

@ DEMOLITION M4N

Got hit with smoke underneath the bridge in River and the force of the explosion sent me through the bottom of the bridge. All of the sudden I'm fighting on top of the bridge. Weird.

...and I still hate playing this game online.

Need yet another patch devs, great job.

[DEMOLITION M4N]

i have the greatest suggestion that will fix all of ur problems with gow 2.
annnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddd hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeee itttttttttttttttt isssssssssssss.......................PLAY GOW 1!

[Zacxx201]

Among those, I find that my biggest problem is the chainsaw issue. Somebody please please tell me what's the easiest way to cancel sombody's revved saw before it reaches me. I'm constantly getting turned into gibs no matter how many times I melee or shoot them whilst the person is approaching me.

Run away lol

[Invader Skooj]

Run away lol

It would be a sound plan if it was possible with the tractor beam saw.


My advice: Enter fetal position.

[mmm_buddah]

or more like a link to all of the glitches, lookie

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=gears+of+war+2+glitches&aq=0&oq=gears+of+war+2

its so obvious people are cheating, hopefully something is being done. I mean you can even subscribe to these people and see all the different cheats they know, um, GET SOMEONE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AND FIX IT ALL! It just makes too much sense i guess....

ALSO, I shot someone in the face, literally on Jacinto yesterday, everyone on my team saw it, active boom, right to face, blood flew everywhere, but host survived. wtf?

[lllHIGHllLIFElll]

I wish it was possible to melee someone out of the chainsaw before it hit you. There should be some window for doing this, even if it is small. It would help a great deal in feeling less cheated by saw noobs. However if this update fixes the saw lowering when you shoot them i guess i will be happy.

[Awes0mo]

Gorgon Pistol - not really worth using, equivalent to a bb gun, increase the damage maybe?

I will own you with the gorgon pistol.