Lets Be Serious 2.0

[qp WARPIG qp]

Why is it so hard for the game producers to fix problems with the game, ive been reading these post for weeks and still epic has refused to fix issues this game is now junk the chainsaw is to powerful the smoke is stupid it never is consistant the time you are on the ground twitching like a ragdoll is diffrent in every game, why? the A button has too many commands I cant jump over cover sometimes. and the rank system means nothing if they quit a game early they dont get a loss "true skill" the players with high rank quit early thats how they get rank. and recently i cant get into a room with five players is this another issue EPIC? yes it is

[lupus777]

i concur. smoke/stun grenades are a good but when you got ten people all running in and throwing them straight away its a bit much, and i've been on the floor for 20 seconds after being stun when it glitched out on the stairs and it looked like an epeleptic fit. oh lmfao the tips just before the game say shooting the chainsaw will lower it hahahahahahahahahahahaha nope in fact i think thier health goes up !!!

[qp WARPIG qp]

yeah there health probly does go up, hey guys if we really expect epic to fix these problems were wasting our time, just buy a new game besides epic cant even change the "welcome to gears of war 2" message but if they decide I hope it reads welcome to the worst game ever made you will be upset and remember you must use chainsaws and smoke grenades at all times

[I MaLiCe I]

Tomorrow I'm going to see what other good games are out there for good online play. And maybe their developer cares enough to make a simple topic saying theyre making improvments.

[forgottenjosh]

Tomorrow I'm going to see what other good games are out there for good online play. And maybe their developer cares enough to make a simple topic saying theyre making improvments.

complain much? lrn 2play? all i here is QQQQQQQQQQ

[Giantpanda]

People, calm down. They are obviously working on fixing the game. All they are doing is compacting many of the issues into one update so that they don't have to constantly stream out small insignificant updates.
Just be patient, play another game or do horde or something.

[Yatrix]

People, calm down. They are obviously working on fixing the game. All they are doing is compacting many of the issues into one update so that they don't have to constantly stream out small insignificant updates.
Just be patient, play another game or do horde or something.


I work for a software company and I now one thing for sure: you do not put out a product this broken and you do not fix what's not broken.

It's simple: if you're customers like something, don't redo it; enhance it. EPIC changed the gameplay style because THEY wanted to, not because it was wanted by the fans. You also have a huge beta for a game this significant. All of these issues have been found in 2 months. A 1-3 month beta would have made so much of a difference. They could have tweaked the smoke, fixed the saws, matchmaking and everything else.

EPIC's arrogance is a big problem here. They were more concerned with making the game THEY wanted, rather than the game WE wanted. Bungie had a big beta with Halo 3, because that was the must-have app and the last thing they wanted to do was eff it up. Cliffy B's band of narcissists decided to put the game out as they made it. That's bad business.

[III OMNI III]

I work for a software company and I now one thing for sure: you do not put out a product this broken and you do not fix what's not broken.

It's simple: if you're customers like something, don't redo it; enhance it. EPIC changed the gameplay style because THEY wanted to, not because it was wanted by the fans. You also have a huge beta for a game this significant. All of these issues have been found in 2 months. A 1-3 month beta would have made so much of a difference. They could have tweaked the smoke, fixed the saws, matchmaking and everything else.

EPIC's arrogance is a big problem here. They were more concerned with making the game THEY wanted, rather than the game WE wanted. Bungie had a big beta with Halo 3, because that was the must-have app and the last thing they wanted to do was eff it up. Cliffy B's band of narcissists decided to put the game out as they made it. That's bad business.

took the words outta my mouth.................nothing is more true than what you just said.........hind sight...in all those dev. diaries it seemed as though they were telling us this but we were too blind to see.....I think all the fellows at epic were tired of being owned at thier own game so they made all these cheesy things to fit their strengths, like rod saying they wanted to dicourage shot gun charging and also saying in one video that the toque bow was his favorite weapon and now, surprise there is a torque bow on almost every map, aven making the snipe a torque every other round and making the torque way easier to get kills with by not even having to actually hit them anymore, but rather just the floor by them or the wall next to them or whatever........I know I'm ranting....but what better place to do it......n e way... yeah I wish they would have made it for us...not them...........

[shadowjudge]

I work for a software company and I now one thing for sure: you do not put out a product this broken and you do not fix what's not broken.

It's simple: if you're customers like something, don't redo it; enhance it. EPIC changed the gameplay style because THEY wanted to, not because it was wanted by the fans. You also have a huge beta for a game this significant. All of these issues have been found in 2 months. A 1-3 month beta would have made so much of a difference. They could have tweaked the smoke, fixed the saws, matchmaking and everything else.

EPIC's arrogance is a big problem here. They were more concerned with making the game THEY wanted, rather than the game WE wanted. Bungie had a big beta with Halo 3, because that was the must-have app and the last thing they wanted to do was eff it up. Cliffy B's band of narcissists decided to put the game out as they made it. That's bad business.

Sounds more like a rant then a smart statement.

There are very few games that do public betas. The only 3 that have done large ones have been Halo, Call of Duty, and Shadowrun. 1 of the 3 had its company go down the tubes. Also out of these betas very little can be done before release. Unless you want to give a very unpolished, unready product for public beta, which may cause more damage then good, since many people don't get it through their thick heads that it is an incomplete item.

My question is at what level do you work in the software company, because I also work as a programmer, and i'm working on my game design degree, and i personally know that the more complexed a piece of software gets, the longer it takes to fix it.

One error, can turn into thousands of unforeseen errors, and fixing one error can cause another error. When doing fixes, you need to test those fixes to make sure that it won't crash everything, or cause something far worse. Also you have to find the problem, and with thousands of lines of code, it may take a while. Then you also have to send it though Microsoft verification process, which can take anywhere from a day, to months.

I personally cannot believe that im defending epic on this, but i personally get pissed off when people state that they have qualifications, and only show the side that can help their argument.

I won't argue that they made the game they wanted, rather then the game the vocal few wanted. But i actually feel that if we got what the vocal few wanted, we would have a game exactly the same as gears of war 1, which would end up feeling like they did what bungie did, and created gears of war 1.5 rather then gears of war 2.

Game play has shifted away from the shotgun, and you hear the vocal few complain about that, where we have plenty that enjoy that playing with the Hammerburst and lancer killing those that are too up their own rears to realize this isn't gears of war 1.

Wow i cannot believe how much of a rant that i just got into and have actually lost track of where i left off, so i will leave it at that.

~Shadowjudge~