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Chill Penguin X
11-24-2008, 03:47 PM
I have a serious problem with the smoke grenades. I know they're not going to take out the fact that they stun, but the least they could do change how you're stunned. Having a stunned player become subject to rag doll physics is ridiculous. The amount of time you're stunned is inconsistent, and it's impossible to get back up on stairs. The smoke grenades are now the best weapon in the game.
Being stunned, at the very least, needs to be an animation. You can just use the same animation that's used when a teammate hits you with a mortar. All that matters is that it needs to be a set amount of time, a set action, and you shouldn't be subject to the randomness of rag doll physics.

Other than the overpowered chainsaw, that's the biggest issue in an otherwise excellent game. It would also be nice if it were easier to avoid planted grenades that you see ahead of time. Claymores in Call of Duty 4 were perfectly balanced. If you were ready for them, they usually wouldn't kill you. If you weren't, they usually did. It was fair.

deffiliate
11-28-2008, 11:30 AM
Ageed completely, i was once down for more than 15 seonds because i was stunned at the top of a staircase.

M4RCU5
11-28-2008, 11:46 AM
Smoke's are gay the noobs throw them at me when they know dey bout' get raped.

IXx McCoy xXl
12-02-2008, 02:14 AM
the smoke gernade is a glitchers dream. the old stun was 100 times better and more realistic. i dont know why epic decided that was a better idea. i wish the would take out the knockdown/ragdoll physics , would fix so much stuff and would weed out the noobs

DonnyJN
12-17-2008, 06:11 PM
Yeah. On Blood Drive sucks! Those damn staircases are never-ending! They f*cking throw those damn things then just wait next to you with a rev'd chainsaw or shotgun looking you down with pleasure. Nubs! At least just get stun'd like an explosive stun. The "rag-doll" doesn't make any sense. Flashbangs don't really do that! Come on!

NSC BuGz
12-17-2008, 09:20 PM
i was on the stasis on stasis i was going for boomshot someone planted a smoke at the top and i ragdolled down and i counted it took 47seconds for me to reach the bottom thank god noone was there

PR0JECTMAYH3MxX
12-17-2008, 09:26 PM
Ya something definitely needs to be done about the smoke grenade if you can call it that anymore. It would get rid of a lot of gay glitches and make noobs pee their pants when they realize they can't just stand over you with an overpowered chainsaw and waiting for you to get up.

bEE
12-17-2008, 11:44 PM
Smoke's are gay the noobs throw them at me when they know dey bout' get raped.

...I'm sure you through lots too

Degenerate.

forgottenjosh
12-19-2008, 01:30 AM
the smoke gernade is a glitchers dream. the old stun was 100 times better and more realistic. i dont know why epic decided that was a better idea. i wish the would take out the knockdown/ragdoll physics , would fix so much stuff and would weed out the noobs

all i here is WTFMATE! HAXORBBQ!!!! QQQQQQQ I CANT AVOID SMOKES! =(

coletrain46
12-19-2008, 01:53 PM
Not to mention how out of place it is. It looks so stupid to see these huge soldiers lay down slowly in random positions with a strait face.

So stupid

xWKSxV00D00x
12-21-2008, 04:45 AM
smoke grenades are a huge thing killing this game
they should either...
a) reduce the radius
b) make smokes an acquired weapon
c) switch back to Gears 1 smoke grenades

Jay Kay
12-21-2008, 08:20 AM
i completley agree with penguin - just have you get stunned like when a teamate hits u with mortar. either that or do what they guy above sed. oh - and let us stop the chainsaw like in gow1 - it is way too op and if something isnt done soon im gonna quit playing.

JaegerSoldat
12-28-2008, 10:12 PM
The best is when on Hail I rag doll my way on top of the subway cars.

Incidentally, the hail doesn't hurt you there.

For bonus lulz, people will call you a glitcher.

Omega360x
12-29-2008, 10:53 AM
I have a serious problem with the smoke grenades. I know they're not going to take out the fact that they stun, but the least they could do change how you're stunned. Having a stunned player become subject to rag doll physics is ridiculous. The amount of time you're stunned is inconsistent, and it's impossible to get back up on stairs. The smoke grenades are now the best weapon in the game.
Being stunned, at the very least, needs to be an animation. You can just use the same animation that's used when a teammate hits you with a mortar. All that matters is that it needs to be a set amount of time, a set action, and you shouldn't be subject to the randomness of rag doll physics.

Other than the overpowered chainsaw, that's the biggest issue in an otherwise excellent game. It would also be nice if it were easier to avoid planted grenades that you see ahead of time. Claymores in Call of Duty 4 were perfectly balanced. If you were ready for them, they usually wouldn't kill you. If you weren't, they usually did. It was fair.


Funny thing is, no one complained about the new smokes stunning players back when it was firsts announced. Everyone knew they were coming, so deal with it and stop crying.

Chainsaw is not overpowered, you just keep walking into them. Learn how to back peddle/dive back and shoot.


The best is when on Hail I rag doll my way on top of the subway cars.

Incidentally, the hail doesn't hurt you there.

For bonus lulz, people will call you a glitcher.

It's because you are, idi_t.... and don't reply with, "well if EPICz did their job I wouldn't be able to glitch", EPIC wasn't expecting players to use their smokes in ways NOT intended either.

So in short, you ARE a glitcher, you ARE responsible for pissing off the community by using the game mechanics in ways EPIC did not intend. Your new name is DirtB_g, k?

JaegerSoldat
12-29-2008, 08:57 PM
It's because you are, idi_t.... and don't reply with, "well if EPICz did their job I wouldn't be able to glitch", EPIC wasn't expecting players to use their smokes in ways NOT intended either.

So in short, you ARE a glitcher, you ARE responsible for pissing off the community by using the game mechanics in ways EPIC did not intend. Your new name is DirtB_g, k?

I am an "idiot" and a "glitcher" because someone hits me with a smoke on Hail in the train cars and my guy occasionally winds up on the ceiling?

And how is the opposing team using them in ways not intended either? They throw em to stun me, the rag doll physics pull me up onto the roof, and I'm stuck.

When you were a kid, did your parents mix the lead paint chips into your food or did you forage for them yourself in the trailer? :confused:

n2cranes
01-03-2009, 12:30 AM
epic isnt going to fix any of the problems we have been complaining about. it has become obvious that they just dont care about the community. The problems in gears 1 are still in gears 2. When they make gears 3 i am just going to rent it for the campaign then return it because the mp isnt worth **** anymore