Shooting from the hip with the Shotgun

[Mr Chappelle]

Please fix the shooting glitch with the shotgun. When you fire the shotgun from the hip, it will shoot directly into the ground. If you are looking at a slight downward angle and fire, the round will go into the ground. So you end up basically giving the other person a free shot because you're shooting into the ground. Please please please fix this problem, cause it's extremely irritating.

[TuFfLuV EsD]

Any plans to return the shotgun to its former glory? It worthless now. The game would have been fine had they done everything they did do other than mess around with the shotgun. Make it like it was. I like the way it use to sound too. Now its a watered down bass drum basically. I dont under stand people who say they weakened it because Gears 1 was a shotty fest. This is a whole new ball game. The Lancer and the Hammerburst in the right hand can hold most opponents at bay and shift the advantage to your team. As with the first Gears its still about knowing what weapon to use for any paticular situation. But when all the flanking is done, the lancering, ect....sometime it just come down to close quarters confrontations...Why should the guy mashing the hell out of B(with his Lancer ready) have an advantage over the guy blasting him w/ the shotgun. I've seen this countless times on the 1st Gears. Newbz get the game. They know nothing about it other than B is the saw. They end up in a multiplayer room thinking they might be pretty good.Wrong. They quickly realized maybe charging someone from 10-15 feet away w/ they're chainsaw revin perhaps wasn't the best idea. But that was all they knew so they keep doin it. And they keep diein.
Things are different now on Gear2. The same newb tactic I just decribed has a much higher success rate.Why. Because the shotty has been watered down. The rate of fire slowed down. Not to mention the general camera sentitivity is greatly dimenished. One can nolonger whip the shotty around 180 degres nearly as quickly as before. Even with everything on high. Matter of fact Gear2 is slower over all. There's alot of things I love about the new Gears but that shotty must be fixed. Hopefully future updates will address these concerns, which are by and large the concerns of Gears vets. The newbies don't care, cause they don't know any better. And after they get a month or two of severe ass wuppins by us vets...they'll promtly return to Halo or Call of Duty or where ever the hell they came from. So do yourself a favor Epic and take what the vets say under advisement not the newbs. We are the ones who know whats best for the series. Trust us... Keep us informed as to what updates may be on the way.

Eternally active'n Newbz,

TuFfLuV EsD

[d3m1g0d]

Well I would consider myself a vet gears player and i am not at all disappointed with the new shotty. People need to stop complaining about it. Let me say this, if a guy is running at you with his chainsaw revving you can do two things. Get chainsawed or DIVE backwards and maybe put a couple of rounds into him. Another thing that works is a smoke grenade to knock him down. Everyone is complaining about the chainsaw and shotgun, but i think its the so called "noobs" that you call them that are complaining. Learn to play

[Episodes]

Or, you can counter with a chainsaw duel. Did anybody consider that being one of the reasons why they nerfed the shotgun in the first place?

[DSM BLACKOUT]

I agree, the shotgun is now useless, i am a gears vet im im vry dissapointed with it. If i wanted a machine gun fight all the time i would play halo etc, gears at the moment is just all lancer and chainsaw fests. I mean come on, you cant even fire from the hip anymore, anyone who says they like the new shotgun havent got a clue. At least fix the shotgun so us people who are not chainsaw and lancer noobs have something to counter it with.

[TuFfLuV EsD]

If your were a vet you would know that there were times on the first one when i guy would rush with the chainsaw when you were not looking. At the last second you happen to look swing your shotty around blast and boom he's on the ground or dead. With this new shotty thats hard to do when you see him comin from 10-15 feet away. The shotty is just too weak. Its unpredictable. Sometimes It takes one shot. Other times dudes can run through two shotguns and get a kill. Any self respecting vet can recognize this problem. They should just set it back to the old settings. Period.

[trevd]

I mean come on, you cant even fire from the hip anymore, anyone who says they like the new shotgun havent got a clue.

I disagree. I think that the shooting from the hip problem relates to more than just the shotgun, I've seen a number of boomshot suicides due to hipshooting. Hip shots definitely need to be fixed.

As for the shotgun itself I'm satisfied, the lower rate of fire I can accept, it just means that shots have to count, snap-aiming can still be accomplished and people can be easily one-shotted. the downside is that near-misses no longer have the same effect, but to me this is acceptable.

I believe that the problems lie in the chainsaw alone. It is unacceptable that chainsaws are not always lowered when people are taking damage. If they were then none of these problems would exist.

In short; there is no problem with the current shotgun, it is balanced with the majority of the gameplay, the only problems lie in current hip-shooting mechanics and chainsaw mechanics.


Proxy frags are a whole different issue that needs to be taken care of immediately.

[BCWA Steele]

Proxy frags are a whole different issue that needs to be taken care of immediately.


NO THEY DON'T! For all you self-proclaimed GEARS VETS! If you are complaining about this, than you are not truly a gears player! What has GEARS OF WAR always tried to push for community gamers? Can anyone answer me this question or are you all so blind?

The fact is they always pushed two things in their gameplay! NUMBER ONE: TEAMWORK, they wanted people to work together for one common goal, to unite the community. NUMBER TWO: TACTICS, they always wanted people to use their mind as to how to get the advantage on the foe. IF you didn't know those two you are not a true gears Vet, so stop your self-proclaiming and go play HALO 3 you jumpy, melee babies. With this in affect, you have to pay more attention to your surroundings not just your opponents. I have yelled at so many people online for this, because the PROXY nades are one of the best features in the game for me. It gives me more of an alert than it does anything else, I place them strategically around my position, to give me more of that "tick tick BOOM!" oh crap here comes the enemy than anything. I play with my friends and I abuse the heck out of that, and they don't complain because they know that they were at fault, they should have paid more attention to their surroundings! So stop complaining about this and play the game, or go to HALO 3. Bunch of cry babies.

[chplusink]

I like the new shotgun. I feel like some people are complaining, because they don't like to switch up their style. In Gears 1, there were so many people that would spawn, switch to shotgun and never switch to anything else. Regardless of those people, the gameplay usually ended the same exact way. Lancer stand-off, which leads to a stagnation, until someone decides to rush and then it became a shotgun strifing fest. Not fun, and not strategic. Shotgun should only be for specific situations, and in Gears 1, that situation became too common. Gears 2 has the right idea, even though the shotgun does seem slightly on the weak side, especially with the addition of stopping power. I wouldn't mind seeing the shotgun damage increased very slightly. However, it would be a shame for it to revert back to the overpowered 'primary' weapon of Gears 1.

[chplusink]

NO THEY DON'T! For all you self-proclaimed GEARS VETS! If you are complaining about this, than you are not truly a gears player! What has GEARS OF WAR always tried to push for community gamers? Can anyone answer me this question or are you all so blind?

The fact is they always pushed two things in their gameplay! NUMBER ONE: TEAMWORK, they wanted people to work together for one common goal, to unite the community. NUMBER TWO: TACTICS, they always wanted people to use their mind as to how to get the advantage on the foe. IF you didn't know those two you are not a true gears Vet, so stop your self-proclaiming and go play HALO 3 you jumpy, melee babies. With this in affect, you have to pay more attention to your surroundings not just your opponents. I have yelled at so many people online for this, because the PROXY nades are one of the best features in the game for me. It gives me more of an alert than it does anything else, I place them strategically around my position, to give me more of that "tick tick BOOM!" oh crap here comes the enemy than anything. I play with my friends and I abuse the heck out of that, and they don't complain because they know that they were at fault, they should have paid more attention to their surroundings! So stop complaining about this and play the game, or go to HALO 3. Bunch of cry babies.

Before you start violently attacking other members, you should read what they wrote. That kid wrote, "proxy frags" not "proxy nades." No one thoroughly checks every corner for planted grenades, because you'd be watching walls instead of enemies. There are also ways to plant a grenade where no one can see it, until it's too late. As a smoke grenade, it acts as an alarm system; as a frag grenade, it acts as a cheap land mine. I don't really mind proxy frags too much, since they don't seem to be used often enough to ruin gameplay, but I wouldn't shed a tear if they were removed. However, if they removed all proxy nades...sad face. All nades aside, I agree with the statement about EPIC emphasizing teamwork and strategy. It's a shame many people still play the game like they're Colonel John Matrix.

[eN Duffman]

with the new shotgun its designed to be a back up weapon or an extreme close combat weapon and not the old i can shoot you from 50yards away and still be stupidly effective. but a given is that the chainsaw needs to be stunned a bit easier by a shotgun and other weapons. so suck it up and get used to using the lancer as your main weapon

[Orphaned Killer]

What i don't agree with is being forced to play the game a specific way without the freedom to use a weapon of choice. I agree the Gnasher is changed way to much. It used to be my ole faithful when all else failed. I used the Longshot as a primary weapon and so using a lanser chainsaw battle was out of the question if it came down to a close combat 1v1. Its got nothing to do with being a nub. Its almost as tho the dev team hasnt played GOW1 MP since it was released 2 years ago. The style of play has evolved to something way beyond what was intended but thats life. what i dont like is paying 80$ for a new game that isnt a close bastardized version of what was once a great shooter. Im praying there will be like 10 patches made the next time i load GOW2 including the coop gameplay improvements.

[XXtelk666XX]

and is there any chance of putting a clan enablement on there i no for sure theres ppl out there that are sick of changin there gamers tag just to be within a clan i think it'll boost the rep of gow2 cause in the original the amount of time i see ppl changin there gamer tags was enough for me to just keep playin online i still think the shotgun needs inproved and that stupid couched lavetation cover is really pissing me off

back to the clan subject i really think its a well good idea and if u atchully make a leaderborad of the best team(clan) i think that would bring the gamin exp up a notch

hit me bk on that idea

ps it would help alot of players out and the comptition would bring the skills up even more

if u wanna game sumtime my gamertag is xxtelk666xx

[taz990444]

all i want to see done is to fix the hip firing i hate having to aim every shot its so slow and often there is no time for that when a person is charging you with a chain saw i would like to see a lil more accurate hip shot

[bEE]

Its not the shotgun, its how the camera is tilted, its been angled slightly from the original.

[puppet_master19]

and is there any chance of putting a clan enablement on there i no for sure theres ppl out there that are sick of changin there gamers tag just to be within a clan i think it'll boost the rep of gow2 cause in the original the amount of time i see ppl changin there gamer tags was enough for me to just keep playin online i still think the shotgun needs inproved and that stupid couched lavetation cover is really pissing me off

back to the clan subject i really think its a well good idea and if u atchully make a leaderborad of the best team(clan) i think that would bring the gamin exp up a notch

hit me bk on that idea

ps it would help alot of players out and the comptition would bring the skills up even more

if u wanna game sumtime my gamertag is xxtelk666xx
the clan idea is a good one. sorry to go offtopic.

[Izzy Jr]

Alright here we go! Everybody keeps saying the same thing, the shotgun sucks the chainsaw sucks. I for one have been playing GOW 1 since it first came out. And I'm sure so have the rest of you. There are a few issues with GOW 2 yes. But are they really that bad.......... yes. Why would a great company like Epic decide to totally switch things up the way they did, and practically destroy the an award winning multi-player game. Yes there where some issues with part 1, shotty being to strong, the numerous amount of glitching. So why not just fix those things and leave well enough alone. I have read alot of threads since Nov. 7th and the majority of us seem to feel the same way. Now don't get me wrong Gears 2 is a great game especially the campaign. And the new things that they included in the multi-player, all the new modes and different maps and the ability to switch your weapons, SWEET. But what ever happened to the customizable search option that we had in Gears 1 ,like the friendly fire on, off, or the bleed-out time for execution or the # of rounds we want to play. Okay so i say why don't we all just compromise and just help to fix these problems a little bit. what do ya say lets all just play.............................. campaign, horde, co-op, Gears 1or something else till they correct these issues. and please this is just my opinion and everybody is entitled to one. So please don't yell at me. LOL

[TH3 B0DY]

I for one have been playing GOW 1 since it first came out. And I'm sure so have the rest of you. There are a few issues with GOW 2 yes. But are they really that bad.......... yes.

I laughed out loud when I read this because it was like seeing my inner thought laid out before my eyes. And alot with what Izzy has said I strongly agree with. I can get used to the changes. Proxy nades are crazy good, but with practice, I'll know where people tend to place them and adjust accordingly (there are afterall, only two per team... gernerally). But the glitches need to be fixed... and I personally believe there is a lag issue, but that might just be my anger talking. But to talk about the Shot Gun. Ahem... I think it is too early to say that it is a pellet gun, or at best, a potato gun with a temper. I am a big GOW fan, and yes the Shot Gun was the goto gun... generally. If you came within 5-10 feet of an opponent, you would switch to your shotgun. But as I got better at the game, I became more adapt with the Lancer, and began to poon many if not all shot gun rushers, as I would just run backwards and hip fire. However, in all respects to everyone's opinion (as the following is mine), the shot gun is a different animal than it once was. It dosn't posses that punch it once had, that great satisfying crunch, like taking a big bite out of a finely laid tower/stack of Dorrito's (Nacho cheese of course), only its not snack-tastic ecstacy, it's itty-bits of your enemy being scattered across the ground.

Ahhhhh; ultra-violence.

Yes, if the GOW1 Gnasher was an animal I'd say it was a grizzly bear with rocket propelled titanium arms. Now, sadly, it is a fuzzy little hamster...
... but there is light at the end of this tunnel... for that fuzzy little hamster is having a bad hair day.
I have played against bots, and while they gernerally tend to stay still when they are behind cover, I have noticed that the Shot gun has alot more range than it once had. It generally takes down an enemy from mid-range with three shots, two if active. It is more of a graceful weapon; one must pop in and out of cover, laying down semi-precise shots, before rushing in to claim the skull of one's enemy. Unfortunatley, this Butterfly/Bumblebee variation(sticking with the animal analogy) does not exsist online. And I do believe the glitches are to blame. You cannot hip fire, there is generally a slight lag, and... though it is not a glitch... the oncoming chain saw cannot be slowed down. I believe if anything should be done with the shot gun, it should address this subject: while the lancer and hammerbust have stifling knockback, the shot gun has none. If a chain saw is being rev'd within 5-feet, a succesful, well placed shot from the Gnasher should knock down the opponent via smoke gernade style. It makes sense no? I mean, shot guns generally have alot of kick to them...
Yes the shot gun is no longer the goto weapon, but it serves it place... at least on LAN. One must adjust to its new finesse, to appreciate the weapon. If you dont have a power weapon, its a strong side kick to the lancer/ hammerburst. Isn't that the way the game should be?

[Sleep]

Shooting from the hip with any weapon besides a machine gun is completely futile. Blind firing makes you shoot directly at your feet. At least in the first one and someone was close to you and you get up with a boom shot in your hand you could dive back, shoot, and blow him (sometimes you) up. Now, try that. Only you die, every time. They could've made the shotgun a bit weaker, taken out the active sniper, and the game would've been perfect. EPIC needs to stop making lame exploits for noobs to always win. There's no tactic in 1 shot downs from a sniper across the map, there's no tactic in running 15 feet with your chainsaw to saw someone.

[Devils Testament]

Stop crying like babie's learn to adapt this is not Gears 1. So the shotgun is fine if you don't like it then go back to Gears 1 and use that BS shotty that was all about pulling the trigger button and not really using it effectively by aiming for example. You guy's that claim to be Gears vet's are also so BS. I bet you guy's were on COD4 for a while when it was released i can consider my self a true Gears vet i was on it since day one while my friends were all on other games like COD4 probably kicking your *****. Don't complain about the shotty is fine if you need to stop the Lancer simply use it to stop the chainsaw noobs by downing then use your shotgun to get the kill or is it to hard now for you to switch between weapons. I'm actually disappointed at some of you guy's instead of backing Epic Games with there products you bash'em and while your doing that there's other people reading this stuff and going out there giving games like RESISTENCE 2 10/10 and Gears 9.5/10. Stop and think for a min. Maybe they will fix it with a patch then your going to say oh the grenade tagging on walls is for camper's that won't come out of there spawns. I've already played some people that are like that so don't even try it. Just give it sometime get used to it you might like the change.

[Spartan-179]

NO THEY DON'T! For all you self-proclaimed GEARS VETS! If you are complaining about this, than you are not truly a gears player! What has GEARS OF WAR always tried to push for community gamers? Can anyone answer me this question or are you all so blind?

The fact is they always pushed two things in their gameplay! NUMBER ONE: TEAMWORK, they wanted people to work together for one common goal, to unite the community. NUMBER TWO: TACTICS, they always wanted people to use their mind as to how to get the advantage on the foe. IF you didn't know those two you are not a true gears Vet, so stop your self-proclaiming and go play HALO 3 you jumpy, melee babies. With this in affect, you have to pay more attention to your surroundings not just your opponents. I have yelled at so many people online for this, because the PROXY nades are one of the best features in the game for me. It gives me more of an alert than it does anything else, I place them strategically around my position, to give me more of that "tick tick BOOM!" oh crap here comes the enemy than anything. I play with my friends and I abuse the heck out of that, and they don't complain because they know that they were at fault, they should have paid more attention to their surroundings! So stop complaining about this and play the game, or go to HALO 3. Bunch of cry babies.

firstly stop boing out halo 3, secondly i agree with what hes saying, i personnaly didnt notice a change with the sgotgun and i used it all gthe time in gears 1. However i find my slef more reluctant to use it because of the flinching, but other than that is just feels the same. Wall tagging is also an improvement because you atcally have to think before you turn a corner ( even though this incereses the temp to camp) rathur than running out and getting shotgund in the face. u know wat i sayin? ANyway i like the fact that if theyve made the shotgun harder to use. no more rolling around and melee shotg kills. evey used to run around the map with a shotgun because it was SO EASY to use, u could shoot from the hip and blow a guys head off. now u need a bit more tech (skill)

[SicKB0y]

It seems to me like most people in this thread are playing the wrong game. EPIC did make Unreal 3...most of you might prefer it. Just because you cant pull an arnie and fire from the hip as effective when you are in mid air rolling any more or the fact that you need to have a higher sense of battle field awareness now thanks to the proxy grenades. Why are none of you complaining about the blind fire? maybe because you have never noticed because you are to busy running into the middle of the map getting shot and crying about it. half of the time when you blind fire it shoots the wall you are currently on (whats with that?). The true fundamentals of what gears is truly about is there 1)team work 2) taking cover 3) close personal loving caring bloody battles. If you people dont like it then just stop playing and play UT3. seems to me like its more of what you want anyway.

[Stuie79]

The Shot Gun Is Fine... But the chainsaw shouldn't be so powerful.. the shotty should drop it without needing an active... but my biggest pev is stopping power... i mean i understand why its there but it causes problems....in gears 1 i could be the last person alive with the entire team left against me.... but now with stopping power i can be fighting on guy and his buddy can hit me with a lancer across the map and im screwed cause i can't move so unless i have a power weapon its almost impossible to cluth a match... i dunno i mean i like the game buy it seems like its just more noobish now... and

meat shields are way to ridiculous unless you have a grenade you screwed you can't do anything to kill the guy carrying them..

and the match making needs to change i want to choose what game i play.... Look if it wasn't broke don't fix it...

but i guess everyone has thier own opinion i just hope some things are fixed...

[LAG Legend]

Any plans to return the shotgun to its former glory? It worthless now. The game would have been fine had they done everything they did do other than mess around with the shotgun. Make it like it was. I like the way it use to sound too. Now its a watered down bass drum basically. I dont under stand people who say they weakened it because Gears 1 was a shotty fest. This is a whole new ball game. The Lancer and the Hammerburst in the right hand can hold most opponents at bay and shift the advantage to your team. As with the first Gears its still about knowing what weapon to use for any paticular situation. But when all the flanking is done, the lancering, ect....sometime it just come down to close quarters confrontations...Why should the guy mashing the hell out of B(with his Lancer ready) have an advantage over the guy blasting him w/ the shotgun. I've seen this countless times on the 1st Gears. Newbz get the game. They know nothing about it other than B is the saw. They end up in a multiplayer room thinking they might be pretty good.Wrong. They quickly realized maybe charging someone from 10-15 feet away w/ they're chainsaw revin perhaps wasn't the best idea. But that was all they knew so they keep doin it. And they keep diein.
Things are different now on Gear2. The same newb tactic I just decribed has a much higher success rate.Why. Because the shotty has been watered down. The rate of fire slowed down. Not to mention the general camera sentitivity is greatly dimenished. One can nolonger whip the shotty around 180 degres nearly as quickly as before. Even with everything on high. Matter of fact Gear2 is slower over all. There's alot of things I love about the new Gears but that shotty must be fixed. Hopefully future updates will address these concerns, which are by and large the concerns of Gears vets. The newbies don't care, cause they don't know any better. And after they get a month or two of severe ass wuppins by us vets...they'll promtly return to Halo or Call of Duty or where ever the hell they came from. So do yourself a favor Epic and take what the vets say under advisement not the newbs. We are the ones who know whats best for the series. Trust us... Keep us informed as to what updates may be on the way.

Eternally active'n Newbz,

TuFfLuV EsD

I have to agree with TuFfLuV EsD.
The shotgun and hip firing has been screwed up.
What basically happens to me is, i'm using the shotgun, i shoot from the hip and i miss teribbly sum how and the person comes up and chainsaws. So basically gears 2 is all about chainsawing. I'm not sure if you guys did this so you can see "more" chainsaw battles or what.

[Sick Demons]

The shotgun is still as lame as it was before, sure you cant blind fire it well.. hell only the lancer can be blindfired.. sometimes.. the only way to use the shotgun is to be host (what a big surprise) ppl still down me with the shotgun from 20 feet away and i cant do nothing to stop it, besides the "Good players" just 2 pice you all the time its just like in gow 1 Host = Easy win, but now it seems like the host its randomly selected (even if he has a crapy conection).
I do love the chainsaw but i have to agree.. its too hard to stop them unless you are host. if your host you just need a couple of shots with any gun and hes stuned or down.
The chainsaw duels are weird i mean ill give you an example.. in a private match i keep wining chaisaw duels agains guy "A" and guy A can easily beat guy "B" now when i try to duel with guy B i lose every single time.. there is somethign weird there.
but then again.. i guess the only solution to all this issues is to get rid of the lag, do this and i bet the game will be 100x times better.
OH AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLZ PLZ MAKE A QUICK MUTE OPTION!!!!!! so many ppl that keep screaming on the mic drives me crazy and the menus things gets a lil laggy when ur playing so by the time you mute the guy you are alredy bleeding form the ear or dead in game.
i still love this game even with all those issues but i hope that it keeps geting better each update
now i hope that all i wrote made some sence, since english isnt my first lenguage,
i better stop writing before this gets too long.. oh carp to late, sorry if i wasted your time or made you mad in any way, im 70% sure that it wasnt my intention.

[Bulletproof2233]

Well I would consider myself a vet gears player and i am not at all disappointed with the new shotty. People need to stop complaining about it. Let me say this, if a guy is running at you with his chainsaw revving you can do two things. Get chainsawed or DIVE backwards and maybe put a couple of rounds into him. Another thing that works is a smoke grenade to knock him down. Everyone is complaining about the chainsaw and shotgun, but i think its the so called "noobs" that you call them that are complaining. Learn to play


Couldnt have said it better myself

And for all those who complain about the new shotty think about this

Its called the left trigger.
Its for aiming USE IT

[Cuckoo Boy]

What people are failing to realize is that GOW1&2 is a COVER shooter! It was meant to simulate a firefight! Yes there are LAG problems, but this is a new game, not the first one, you must adapt! Use a variety of weapons and your TEAM will win! If anyone ran at you with a shotgun in Iraq, and you were behind cover with a machine gun you would kill them! If you shot a real shotgun from the hip it would be innacurate as well! Aim and fire! Sound familiar? The first week I played GOW2 I was thinking the same things as everyone else, but once I was behind cover and someone got close, I switch to the shotty, STAY IN COVER, and own the rusher! The game is about teamwork, watching your TEAMS flank, and communication! You will live and die, win and lose by those things! Now winners are not rushers, winners are FLANKERS! The funny thing is I have heard people complain about this! How many strategic games out there are about flanking?...ALOT! Don't cry because you got shot in the back, be mad at your teammate that you thought was watching your flank, but left you to go rush and is now dead as well! How do you think battles are won in real life?! Flanking, teamwork and surprise! Not by yelling CHAAAARGE!!! We are no longer in the revolutionary or civil war eras, there is a reason wars are not fought this way anymore! Stop trying to be a hero by rusing in with shotgun, and work with your team, you will last longer! Wanna know what really makes the shotty powerful?...your teammate lancering at the same time! This is a good way to instantly down people, work together thats what its all about!

[timp311]

chainsaw duels are cool only once, other than that its really dumb...Shotgun is useless now. And the lancer is too powerful, its the goddamn lancer, its a boring weapon, shotty is were its at...takes some skill to be good at it. Also the sniper sucks ass...if only they kept the weapons the same the game would be awesome, instead i hate it

[SynicVance]

Funny, the "shotgun is useless" yet 50% of the time when I get a kill or get killed it's at the hands of a shotgun. I'm so happy with what they've done with the shotgun because I couldn't imagine Gears2 with an even more powerful Shotgun. Epic gets a standing ovation for nerfing the blindfire on the shotty.

[tokuMi]

If you shot a real shotgun from the hip it would be innacurate as well!

Inaccurate is one thing, shooting straight ahead and hitting the floor a few inches from your feet is another thing entirely.

[360junkie]

you hear guys...that halo 3 took the top of the list for most played xbl game
now for the complaints

Epic why did you change so much stuff?? i mean everything was perfect in the first game like
1. quick responsive controls
2. heads actually came off when you shot them with the sniper
3. shotty was more...umm...idk it just felt better and more TANGABLE

ok epic take a look on youtube see what comes up for gears 1 aside from glitch tutorials...i bet you see hundreds of snipe montages, i mean why did you change the snipe so much that people barely use it anymore and thats one of the things gears has lost...its in you face brutality and personallity i mean sure it has special executions and stuff but some just dont feel right. and this is coming from a hardcore gears player and im really concerned because i cant see myself playing this game as long as i did the first one and its simple stuff you guys left out like you cant search for a specific and the leaderboards dont track headshots?? well i missed when after a match i could check out my stats and see how many headshots i got oh yea why even include a ranking system if its so horrible and it only has 5 different ranks..and you guys have a really complicated point system that could of been utilized alot better

so please epic just some how fix this stuff and reclaim the #1 spot on XBL cause if you continue to do nothing it will fall !! theres your advice epic take it or leave it

[07bondh]

I agree his should be fixed up..

[driftedpanic]

frag tagin needs 2 be FIXED

[driftedpanic]

i am a very experianced gears of war 1 and gears of war 2 player (thats because im allways at the top of the leaderboards and been playing for awhile)now i played gears 1 all day 2day and i havnt played it in awhile cause i have been 2 bussy playin the second cause it thot they improved but when i played i saw that the sniper worked got lik 20 headshots unlike gow 2 its a worthless piece of **** torgue bow was balanced no gay actives behind cover because its already easy enough frags were consistant and didnt blow me up from a football feild distance and wre proximity mines which r unbalanced and allmost unaviodable and smokes wernt stun gernades and chainsaws didnt act lik a black whole and my favorite part is that shotty worked buetifly i blindfired a chainsawer and he died O: i was AMAZED it was lik finding the bible or sumthin lol

[Invader Skooj]

Stop resurrecting old threads about problems already fixed.