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Marth
09-03-2008, 11:42 PM
With 2 months to go, I doubt EPIC will unveil any more weapons, so are you pleased with the new weapons?

I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.

Is it really enough? Halo 3 added 10 new weapons and *ALL* were great. Out of the new Gears 2 weapons, I'd probably only bother using the Scorcher and poison grenades. :-l

NOTE: Do not bring up the 'updated' Shotgun, Lancer and Hammerburst. I am talking about new weapons, not updated old weapons. Every sequel has updated weapons.

-Marth

Chronos525
09-03-2008, 11:45 PM
More weapons != better.

The balance of weapons was decent in Gears 1 with the hammerburst being weaker than it should have been as a "power pickup."

Gears 2 adds 2 completely different weapons. The mulcher and the mortar. The mortar is something extremely different from Gears gameplay all together, but there's more than enough weapons for this type of game. The flamethrower was a good addition as well, but the poison grenades seem like another "out of place" weapon like the mortar.

Either way, the amount of weapons in a game doesn't judge much.

Rayped
09-03-2008, 11:45 PM
KINDA, I think they could of added more but I think all the other features will compensate.

Also not all weapons added on halo were good for example, spiker and I didn't like the spike nade

II Echo3z II
09-03-2008, 11:47 PM
With 2 months to go, I doubt EPIC will unveil any more weapons, so are you pleased with the new weapons?

I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.

Is it really enough? Halo 3 added 10 new weapons and *ALL* were great. Out of the new Gears 2 weapons, I'd probably only bother using the Scorcher and poison grenades. :-l

NOTE: Do not bring up the 'updated' Shotgun, Lancer and Hammerburst. I am talking about new weapons, not updated old weapons. Every sequel has updated weapons.

-Marth

I wouldnt say all of them were great in Halo 3. The brute pistol is the most annoying weapon that I've ever used or seen someone use on me. I forget the name of it.

Im satisfied with the new weapons in Gears. I see no need to add anymore. Halo added that many because, as you can see, the game is 8 vs 8 multiplayer. Gears of War 2 is only 5 vs 5 and has smaller maps.:cool:

Marth
09-03-2008, 11:48 PM
The spike grenade is awesome, because you can stick it on an enemy and it will kill him + anyone near him as the spikes penetrate the body. The Spiker is also a good weapon. Much better than the Needler.

Which pistol are you talking about, II Echo3z II? The Mauler? That can get annoying in MP where one could shoot then melee to get an instant kill, but it's actually very effective in the campaign. Especially on higher difficulties.

That is all. Let's not turn this into a Halo 3 discussion, guys.

-Marth

x BiG n TaSTEy8
09-03-2008, 11:50 PM
I just can't wait to see players walk by a wall then BOOM!

II Echo3z II
09-03-2008, 11:52 PM
Which pistol are you talking about, II Echo3z II? The Mauler?

-Marth

Yea, thats the one. Ok ok, back to Gears 2 everybody.

Prod1gyXFXA
09-04-2008, 12:46 AM
im very happy with the new weapons in gears of war 2
i think they added alot of weapons we've been waiting for

mutedvoicebox
09-04-2008, 02:14 AM
Eh. I'm kinda glad Gears doesn't have a bizillion weapons. It's a nice balance.

Besides, Gears weapons tend to fall in the more realistic category, unlike halo. Besides the Hammer of Dawn, (which is powered by a satellite) I doubt Sera has the technology for plasma powered weapons. What more weapons could you get with bullets?

They pretty much have it nailed.

Hooligunn
09-04-2008, 04:11 AM
Yeah but Marth, in Halo 3, how many of them are actually useful or used? The flame weapons appear in like one map (Construct), the Brute weapons add nothing to the game (bar the Brute Shot) and no-one duel weilds so half of the other weapons are forgotten.

I say it's fine. Gears isn't a "mass weapon count" kind of game imho.

GRAE SKYZ
09-04-2008, 04:19 AM
I agree. The arsenal has enough variety and lots of personality to it. And the familiar weapons are now tweaked to perfection, so they have their own newness to us.

Chainsaw Guardian
09-04-2008, 05:42 AM
I think a big variety of weapons is good for Halo 3, but a limited selection is good for gears.

Besides, what kind of gun/weapon could they add, any ideas?

Nowellsy
09-04-2008, 06:10 AM
im very happy

Symbolic
09-04-2008, 07:22 AM
I'm good with the new weapons added, and they made improvements and tweaks to the weapons we already have. So, I'm pleased the way they did it all.

Your Mum
09-04-2008, 07:37 AM
I'm happy with all but the Mortar, but only because I haven't seen it in action.

xInsaNe
09-04-2008, 07:37 AM
I'm very satisfied, all the new weapons are great. And why would you not use the gorgon?

< Profess >
09-04-2008, 07:41 AM
I thought Gears1 had very focused weapons based on the role they where meant to fill.

Though I like the concept of all the new weapons, I reserve judgment till I use them for myself. I'm interested to see how the power/mobility trade off of the bigger weapons works out, given that Gears isn't that fast-paced anyway.

Basically balance is what really matters to me, they can add as many as they like provided there aren't any duplicate type weapons and nothing over the top effective.

las_faiz
09-04-2008, 09:57 AM
This is not a freaking Halo 3 game. Does it says anywhere its supposed to be Gaylo of whatever. I ll let you know how awesome the new eapons are in 2 months time. Till then stop creating lame threads.
BYE

OverKill
09-04-2008, 10:16 AM
I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.
-Marth

i count the Boomshield as a new weapon too...sure you can't shoot it and its purpose is defensive, but it's new gear on the map to pick up

i'm fine with the stuff they added

Hooligunn
09-04-2008, 10:23 AM
This is not a freaking Halo 3 game. Does it says anywhere its supposed to be Gaylo of whatever. I ll let you know how awesome the new eapons are in 2 months time. Till then stop creating lame threads.
BYE

Did he say anywhere OMG WHY ISNT THIS LIKE HALO 3 AND ADDING A TON OF WEAPONS? No. He's using it as a comparison to what Halo 3 did, and what Gears 2 is doing, he's not wanting it to be more like Halo. It's opinion anyway.

Till then, stop posting lame posts like this one, whilst copying's Marth's text style to try and be clever.

BYE

las_faiz
09-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Did he say anywhere OMG WHY ISNT THIS LIKE HALO 3 AND ADDING A TON OF WEAPONS? No. He's using it as a comparison to what Halo 3 did, and what Gears 2 is doing, he's not wanting it to be more like Halo. It's opinion anyway.

Till then, stop posting lame posts like this one, whilst copying's Marth's text style to try and be clever.

BYE

I ll post lame post in lame threads. Thats what they are for

The OP is going on in other threads telling people not to compare with Gaylo 3 and here he is doing this himself showing his hypocricy

How can someone judge without playing the game if they are satisfied or not with all the weapons considering that they haven't even revealed all the weapons

Once again this game is not Halo will never be halo. Go to Bungie's site for halo crap.

Locust General
09-04-2008, 10:31 AM
i always thought a flamethrower would be epic in gears to light up some locust, so im happy about that. But it couldn't hurt to add more. What happened to the locust like HoD? Or is that the Mortar/Mulcher?

OverKill
09-04-2008, 10:33 AM
i always thought a flamethrower would be epic in gears to light up some locust, so im happy about that. But it couldn't hurt to add more. What happened to the locust like HoD? Or is that the Mortar/Mulcher?

i totally forgot about that weapon

i hope not

that would kind of be a let down

WaldoRtk7
09-04-2008, 10:47 AM
Less is more IMHO. I don't like the whole, let's have 40 different weapons to choose from and you only ever see them on 1 map maybe 2. This is a tactical Shooter, though Gears 1 right now is a run and gun shotgun fest, the next game is built around using cover and using it tactically. Though people disagree with not having a set of more than 20 odd weapons, think about all the stuff you can do with the weapons in the game.

Grenades - You can toss them, Stick em to walls, detonate them while DBNO, Tag your opponent

Boomshield - Deflect shots, set in place and move around, it's indestructable, execute your opponent

Guns - Shoot / Down / Headshot / Blow Up / Burn / Melee for each.

Each weapon has 3 to 4 different uses and that to me is worth more than a ton weapons with only 1 use such as most of the weapons in Halo.

las_faiz
09-04-2008, 10:56 AM
@WaldoRtk7: I agree with you

Anyways, let them finish up the game and let it come out before we start moaning about stuff. Its not that its gonna matter now anyways, since EPIC must have laready finalised all the features and put them in the game.

On a good note, Gaylo 4 is coming out so stop whining you Gaylo fans

QBER7
09-04-2008, 11:07 AM
On a good note, Gaylo 4 is coming out so stop whining you Gaylo fans

Don't make up useless facts.

Hooligunn
09-04-2008, 11:26 AM
I ll post lame post in lame threads. Thats what they are for

The OP is going on in other threads telling people not to compare with Gaylo 3 and here he is doing this himself showing his hypocricy

How can someone judge without playing the game if they are satisfied or not with all the weapons considering that they haven't even revealed all the weapons

Once again this game is not Halo will never be halo. Go to Bungie's site for halo crap.

He's comparing the additions of a sequel in one game to the additions in another, not the games themselves. He's not been hypocritical at all.

And btw, stop posting "Gaylo". It's an awesome game, just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to call it Gaylo all the time. That's like me calling Gears, "Queers of War" if I didn't like it like others do - we don't wanna hear it. So stop using it thanks, its just annoying as hell.

las_faiz
09-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Don't make up useless facts.

Use google next time


He's comparing the additions of a sequel in one game to the additions in another, not the games themselves. He's not been hypocritical at all.

And btw, stop posting "Gaylo". It's an awesome game, just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to call it Gaylo all the time. That's like me calling Gears, "Queers of War" if I didn't like it like others do - we don't wanna hear it. So stop using it thanks, its just annoying as hell.

Actually, 'Queens of War' sounds better then Gaylo

Epic needs to change the name ASAP

FYC Punker
09-04-2008, 11:30 AM
i think there good but marth you never know they could still have 5 (EDIT: or maybe more or less give or take?) weapons that we wont know about untill the game comes out.

maybe thats why they dont want people to film the multiplayer beta's they have been doing at like x08 and pax..

and think about it we have only seen 4 maps played on...those other 7 or so could have weapons no one will know about untill the game comes out.

QBER7
09-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Use google next time


Show me a link where Bungie has annouced Halo 4 other than rumors started by little Halo fanboys.

CHAOTIC CARMINE
09-04-2008, 11:52 AM
Marth you forgot a weapon, the boomshield. Also, why are you comparing this to Halo? Cliff said himself that he wants Gears to be a different game with the same amount of sales. If you wanna talk about Halo, your on the wrong site.

P.S. I don't know if the shield is a weapon as such, but it is a pickup so i'll let you guys decide on that.

TANK828
09-04-2008, 12:16 PM
I remember Epic saying you could decapitate with it, that should constitute it as a weapon.

iJeDiMinDTricKs
09-04-2008, 12:17 PM
I voted : Good. I like some of them... but only because I cant see myself picking up the mulcher too much because it is so Damn heavy and makes you so vulnerable... The only new weapons I will most likely use a lot are Hammerburst 2.0,Scorcher,Gorgon,Poison Nade and the Boomshield... Its not that the game needs more weapons, I would just like to see a COG and Locust version of each weapon that you could select from the private match menu...

To the guy saying Halo 4 is coming out, its only a Rumor that Bungie handed over the reigns to Gearbox who ported the first halo to PC... They "say" that it is going to ship side by side with the New Xbox in the next 3-5 years...

Omega360x
09-04-2008, 12:23 PM
With 2 months to go, I doubt EPIC will unveil any more weapons, so are you pleased with the new weapons?

I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.

Is it really enough? Halo 3 added 10 new weapons and *ALL* were great. Out of the new Gears 2 weapons, I'd probably only bother using the Scorcher and poison grenades. :-l

NOTE: Do not bring up the 'updated' Shotgun, Lancer and Hammerburst. I am talking about new weapons, not updated old weapons. Every sequel has updated weapons.

-Marth

Marth,

1) That was Halo 3, this is GoW 2, give it time and I'm sure they will add more.

2) Please, oh please people, STOP COMPARING HALO WITH GOW!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you and have a great day sir! :D

PS: If you wanna compare games, Halo 2 had 17 weapons (only 2 new weapons, battle rifle and SMG) and GoW2 is gonna have 15 (5 new weapons, thats 3 more than Halo 2 ;)).

UKS_BulletPoint
09-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Gears of War focuses on cover fighting tactics unlike games such as Halo that are run-and-gun. Tactical cover games focus more on tactics than fire power, your tactics ensure your survival rather than having the biggest gun always wins (well, at least what they ment Gears of War to be). Games like Halo that are run-and-gun focus more weapons as they have a rock beats scissors system where you fight for the biggest weapons to get easier kills. I often find myself comparing the Halo and Gears of War campaigns but the multiplayers are completely different.

Marth
09-04-2008, 01:50 PM
Halo 2 had 17 weapons (only 2 new weapons, battle rifle and SMG) and GoW2 is gonna have 15

1) Battle Rifle
2) SMG
3) Sentinel Beam
4) Brute Plasma Rifle
5) Brute Shot
6) Energy Sword
7) Covenant Carbine
8) Beam Rifle
9) Fuel Rod Gun

Yeah. Nine, not two.

-Marth

choc d
09-04-2008, 02:17 PM
damn you marth your just too good at this!!

Locust General
09-04-2008, 02:25 PM
Still, we should be talking about GoW2. I didn't come to this forum to read about how great Halo 3 was in adding new weapons. Infact i didnt come here to read anything about Halo PERIOD.

iJeDiMinDTricKs
09-04-2008, 02:36 PM
Still, we should be talking about GoW2. I didn't come to this forum to read about how great Halo 3 was in adding new weapons. Infact i didnt come here to read anything about Halo PERIOD.

Exactly.............

WFSxRAiNiViAN
09-04-2008, 03:15 PM
I would have prefered some bonus things but i think they have covered the grounds of weapones. Eg a machine gun a burst fire gun a rifle a rocket launcher, nades explosive bow etc etc...
A hammer of dawn with a blue beam would be amazing! but thats my opinion!

12 E A IP E R
09-04-2008, 03:22 PM
With 2 months to go, I doubt EPIC will unveil any more weapons, so are you pleased with the new weapons?

I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.

Is it really enough? Halo 3 added 10 new weapons and *ALL* were great. Out of the new Gears 2 weapons, I'd probably only bother using the Scorcher and poison grenades. :-l

NOTE: Do not bring up the 'updated' Shotgun, Lancer and Hammerburst. I am talking about new weapons, not updated old weapons. Every sequel has updated weapons.

-Marth

Theres also the Boomshield if you would like to countit as six.. Anyway, they could have added more weapons into it but I'm not exactly annoyed with the short add of weapons and from Halo - Halo 2, they added 6 (Not counting the changed Plasma rifle 'cos thats like an upgraded version, like the Lance and Hammerburst 2.0) weapons and took 1 out so from Gears of War - Gears of War 2, adding 5 and taking 0 out is quite good. And if theres a Gears of War 3, they will definatly add way more weapons in.
(I don't count turrets and vehicles as weapons.)

Hurricane AJ
09-04-2008, 03:37 PM
I think it's perfect. The perfect amount of weapons.

xXxGeArSxFrEaKxXx
09-06-2008, 09:55 AM
We all had a blast with gears 1 and those weapons,
so think gears 1 weapons updated +5 more!

FYC Punker
09-06-2008, 10:32 AM
i dont think anyone got to read what i said so heres a re-post.



i think there good but marth you never know they could still have 5 (EDIT: or maybe more or less give or take?) weapons that we wont know about untill the game comes out.

maybe thats why they dont want people to film the multiplayer beta's they have been doing at like x08 and pax..

and think about it we have only seen 4 maps played on...those other 7 or so could have weapons no one will know about untill the game comes out.

itsbulmer
09-06-2008, 10:39 AM
Eh, I'm fine with the new weapons. Just theres so many big power weapons that slow players down. Easy kills easy deaths maby!?

Soft Serve
09-06-2008, 10:42 AM
I wonder if kicking over the boomshield in GOW 2 will kill someone?

Kinda like if they're down, you go find one, come back and plant it next to them, kick it over onto them. And see what the symbol is when they die.

lol it'd be great if after doing that it gave you the headshot symbol.

But yeah seriously no more Halo. It's over. The times of darkness and boring same old jump, shoot, crouch, crap is over. I don't like putting my personal opinion in threads because the more people do it the more I see myself calling them things in my head I would never say in a church... but yeah read the friggin URL guys. It says GEARSforums. Not COMPARE-OLD-CRAPPY-GAMES-TO-GEARSforums.

And I'm thinking some of those maps might have one or two new weapons, on top of some of those being the maps with environmental danger areas. I forget where or when I read it or heard it (Because I've been soaking in so much GOW 2 I just can't remember where it is but I know it was somewhere and it's completely legit) that there will be environmental dangers forcing players to stay in particular areas to keep alive. Maybe some of these environmental dangers can be controlled with an action? Such as dropping explosives, slamming shut a trash compactor looking device, lowering a dam, ETC. Like the poison gasses were on Garden, or shooting out the lights on Bullet Marsh.

FunnyWhytBoi
09-06-2008, 12:03 PM
I really like the new weapons. I'll probably be using the Scorcher and the poison grenades too, but i'll always grab the Gorgon when it's on the map for when i pick up meatshields.

Marth
09-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Not COMPARE-OLD-CRAPPY-GAMES-TO-GEARSforums.

Halo 3 is anything but crappy. -_-

-Marth

xIFIRIESHx
09-06-2008, 12:16 PM
The amount of weapons is fine just was hoping 4 more executions check my Post
and yull see what i mean

Locust Sniper
09-06-2008, 12:17 PM
I agree that halo 3 is anything from crappy but why compare the two? Gears 2 is only going to be the second in the series, obviously =], so why not compare its transformation from Gears 1 to Gears to to halo 1 to halo 2. That would only be fair in regards to logic. What other weapons would the game have? IMO, though i love plasma weapons, does plasma weapons really go with the nitty-gritty of the gears universe? What else is would you be able to incorporate? I think that EPIC did a good job by adding, for example, a new pistol. It offers the fast shooting of the snub and the power of a boltok. It's just more realistic than say plasma weapons suddenly appearing.

Neo IITX
09-06-2008, 12:35 PM
With 2 months to go, I doubt EPIC will unveil any more weapons, so are you pleased with the new weapons?

I'm not that excited, because there are only 5 new weapons (poison grenade, Mulcher, Mortar, Scorcher & Gorgon) which brings the total weapon count to 15.

Is it really enough? Halo 3 added 10 new weapons and *ALL* were great. Out of the new Gears 2 weapons, I'd probably only bother using the Scorcher and poison grenades. :-l

NOTE: Do not bring up the 'updated' Shotgun, Lancer and Hammerburst. I am talking about new weapons, not updated old weapons. Every sequel has updated weapons.

-Marth

dont know if someone has already said it, dont feel like reading through all 40+ pages but, cliffy has stated himself that there are still weapons that they have yet to reveal.

Even IF there are no more, 5 new ones are more than enough