Starting smoke grenades

[Baird >]

Get ready for this... smoke grenades are useful now. Extremely useful. All players start with two smoke grenades and will actually use them. The new smoke grenades will send enemies flying with a forceful explosion before laying down a smoke screen

There is a rumor going around that says people will start with two smoke grenades. Which I think is ridiculous and will turn the game in the a smoke grenade war. Smoke grenades are already powerful with the ability to knock people down.. and now they want to give you two? What are they thinking? I hope they don't think they're making this game more tactical by giving you two smoke grenades.. all that's going to do is make people camp more and when someone gets near them they throw smoke, walk up to them, and get the easy kill. This is going to be like a more annoying way of the melee-shotgun or how most of you say it, the "two piece."

I don' really believe you will start with two smoke because if you pause this video at 0:54, you will clearly see he is only holding one.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/259706.html

I just wanted to have a discussion with people that have logical reasons on why you should start with only one smoke grenade or two. So make sure if you vote to give your reasoning.

SOURCE: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688821/Gears_of_War_2_Multiplayer_HandsOn_Impressions.htm l

[Gears-of-War]

One smoke grenade. Two smoke grenades just devalues the ability to use the smoke grenade very well since you have two you can just throw them both and smoke the whole map up pretty much. Pointless. One smoke grenade.
//end thread.

[Chainsaw Guardian]

There is video proof of only one smoke grenade to start with.

[Baird >]

There is video proof of only one smoke grenade to start with.

There is also video proof of an active sniper downing you.. but we all know that got removed..

[sliderjr2]

Where is the option for 4?

[Baird >]

Where is the option for 4?

Sorry man, I forgot. :D

[Chainsaw Guardian]

There is also video proof of an active sniper downing you.. but we all know that got removed..
Nice job contradicting yourself:rolleyes:

[Baird >]

Nice job contradicting yourself:rolleyes:

How am I contradicting myself? I was just proving a point that just because it's in a video doesn't mean it will be that way. The point of this thread wasn't me saying "you will start with one, and here's the video proof." It was to have a discussion on whether you should start with one or two smoke grenades. I posted that video so people will know that so far, people still start with one.

[HungryEvilClown]

One smoke grenade. I can see them being really overused.

[< Profess >]

10 guys x 2 smokes grenades?

Think of the frame-rate, won't somebody please think of the frame-rate!

[alphabetmoose]

One smoke grenade. Two smoke grenades just devalues the ability to use the smoke grenade very well since you have two you can just throw them both and smoke the whole map up pretty much. Pointless. One smoke grenade.
//end thread.

End thread? It's a poll, if he was to end it then no one would vote in it. Just because you put your opinion in doesn't mean the thread has to end. People have other opinions you know. Sorry if this is pointless, but it really irritates the hell out of me when people always say. "Close/End Thread" at the end of their post, like they're always 100% right. They act like they're the people who made the game. Maybe if it was a Clone Post, but since it's a poll, the "End thread" is not needed.

Anyway, I vote 1 smoke. Adding 2 smokes is like adding 2 lives in Warzone. It's dumb and pointless, having 2 smokes allows you to be even cheaper. Leaving you to one smoke balances the game so if you throw one, or tag a wall, that's it. And all the recent vids i've seen from PAX show only 1 smoke.

[Symbolic]

one smoke per player. there just isn't a need for two, the whole map will smoke up proven how much more useful they are in gears 2.

either way, i'm pretty sure if there was two smokes per player and they were all used around the same time, the game might start to lag as previously stated earlier in the thread, and i don't think anybody wants that.

[Locust General]

Epic would not be dumb enough to put 2 smokes in. Having 1 is Perfect.

[FYC Punker]

yeah...

1 for all and all for 1!

[Grayando]

Not sure why a smoke grenade should knock you of your feet??? Okay watering eyes and maybe a bit of a shrug as the thing goes off, but being blasted 2 meters by it seems a little bit of a break down in the laws of reality to me. But thats what we have so......

I hope its one, as allready on Raven Down things can get a little crazy with just four grenades going off. Full room MP, 10 people with lets face it, stunn grenades that as a by product release at load of smoke, having between them 20 grenades. At first as people dont know the maps it could be interesting with 2 of them, but weve all been there on Call of Duty 4 as a about 15 grenades are released in the first few seconds. If these things are as powerfull as they look, I guess folks would be less inclined to go for the real grenades.

Another question, if youve been knocked down by a smoke grenade and are trying to get up, does another one affect you whilst your in animation or will you be able to get up without being knocked back down???

So for me, I hope its 1.

[WetMango1285]

Umm idk if anyone read this article or if it is already accepted as not true but I am pretty sure this will dispel any "rumors" about one or two smoke nades: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688821/Gears_of_War_2_Multiplayer_HandsOn_Impressions.htm l

[GRAE SKYZ]

I voted for 1, but not sure why. I mean, the characters carry all that useless extra gear around their waist. Hell, even the drones carry a non-functionin' gun on their hip. Might as well fill some of the useless parts of their uniform with somethin' that actually can be used. Also, Carmine has that satchel around his waist. What's in there?! And Cole just carries way too much useless baggage.

[Baird >]

I find it funny how the people that voted for "two" didn't even bother explaining themselves.

[CH1LL]

one grenade is enough for me i guess...u cant do anything much with it but just blind enemies...:p

[mojomadness]

i mean really 2 smoke grenades those things really pack a punch.I voted for one because that seems pretty fair since they are pretty usefull now.

[thebrownranger]

I voted for one. It would suck if they put two grenades because it will start to become a cheap habit like the shotguns were in GoW 1.

[choc d]

Read WetMango's link (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688821/Gears_of_War_2_Multiplayer_HandsOn_Impressions.htm l) AGAIN. It confirms there are 2-smoke grenades from the outset.

[C. Freeman]

Read WetMango's link (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688821/Gears_of_War_2_Multiplayer_HandsOn_Impressions.htm l) AGAIN. It confirms there are 2-smoke grenades from the outset.

I didn't misread the link, but the evidence (i.e., videos) I've seen so far indicate that the link is wrong.

EDIT: And Overkill (below) played the game at X08 and only started with 1 smoke.

[OverKill]

i started with one when i played at X08 and it was fine

2 might be a little overkill, especially with experienced players because you'd be getting knocked on your butt every round

[Baird >]

Read WetMango's link (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688821/Gears_of_War_2_Multiplayer_HandsOn_Impressions.htm l) AGAIN. It confirms there are 2-smoke grenades from the outset.

Sorry, but unless one of the guys from Epic comes in here and tells me otherwise, I still think there will only be one starting smoke grenade.

[choc d]

I didn't misread the link, but the evidence (i.e., videos) I've seen so far indicate that the link is wrong.

EDIT: And Overkill (below) played the game at X08 and only started with 1 smoke.

ok thats fair enough..i only wanted to start with one 1 anyhow so its good news:D

[choc d]

so for you guys that voted to start with 2 smoke nades, could you maybe tell us why you want 2 smoke nades?

[CH1LL]

so for you guys that voted to start with 2 smoke nades, could you maybe tell us why you want 2 smoke nades?

even though i voted for 1 smoke grenade i think im also considering 2 smokies maybe because it would be depending on the scenario,im not gonna use the 2 of em in one throw..maybe one at a time depending on the situation maybe if i get pinned down in a specific place and needs to move out fast and the other one in another situation..:D

[Locust General]

even though i voted for 1 smoke grenade i think im also considering 2 smokies maybe because it would be depending on the scenario,im not gonna use the 2 of em in one throw..maybe one at a time depending on the situation maybe if i get pinned down in a specific place and needs to move out fast and the other one in another situation..:D

So basicaly you would become a smoke whore.

The only ones who want 2 are probably because they would throw or tag smoke grenades everywhere to get cheap kills.

Like i said, 1 is definatly best.

[CH1LL]

So basicaly you would become a smoke whore.

The only ones who want 2 are probably because they would throw or tag smoke grenades everywhere to get cheap kills.

Like i said, 1 is definatly best.

no,not really...:p its just that im just making use of it if possible..lolz
i mean im not that good in GOW so im just trying to make use of available things...harhar..

[SNEAKY CUBAN 1]

i think 2 is good it makes the game more tactical and cautious
instead of just full out charging your enemies

[Toddster420]

i say 2, one to use as a proxy mine and the other as actualy smoke.

[GeordiLaforge]

I just hope that its not over used, all the noobs that would active their shotguns at the begining of the round will now just pull out the smoke granades.

[Locust General]

i think 2 is good it makes the game more tactical and cautious
instead of just full out charging your enemies

We've already got stopping power, and lancer seems to of been improved.

having 2 would not help the situation.

[Baird >]

i say 2, one to use as a proxy mine and the other as actualy smoke.

Lol come one now, don't make me laugh. We all know that rarely anyone in gears 1 used smoke.. and now you're actually saying you're going to use smoke in Gears 2 JUST for the smoke?

[CH1LL]

i think 2 is good it makes the game more tactical and cautious
instead of just full out charging your enemies

exactly what i have in mind!!:D i mean having 1 smokie could be tactical too but 2 would also be..coz u can use smoke cover twice in a diff situation..

[jawmuncher]

2

Because there fun

LOL I know my logic fails.

[Locust General]

It doesen't matter anyway. Im very confident that there will only be 1

[YomegaX]

it will make things more tactical being that if you have two smoke grenades, you'll actually have to watch your corners. i dont think that weveryone is just gonna throw them blindly... dont forget you can tag them on the wall

[Locust General]

it will make things more tactical being that if you have two smoke grenades, you'll actually have to watch your corners. i dont think that weveryone is just gonna throw them blindly... dont forget you can tag them on the wall

So your saying that if theres only 1 smoke that you wont have to watch your corners and can rush in head-on?

[SNEAKY CUBAN 1]

i got it one two knock him away so you can down him and one to tag him when he is down

[Kevin992]

the somoke its a powerful stun weapon now so its better if still only 1

[CH1LL]

it really doesnt matter if its 2 smokies or just 1..it actually depends on the person who's gon' use it..you can use it to your advantage being the tactical type or use it to annoy others as a noob..it wont make your weight any heavier and u move any slower if u have 2 right?..:rolleyes:

[Locust General]

it really doesnt matter if its 2 smokies or just 1..it actually depends on the person who's gon' use it..you can use it to your advantage being the tactical type or use it to annoy others as a noob..it wont make your weight any heavier and u move any slower if u have 2 right?..:rolleyes:

Yes but having 1 means you have to choose which path you take. Either you use it actually for the smoke, or 1 for taging/purposly trying to take down enemie.

Can you imagine what would happen at the gridlock tower if everyone had 2 smokes? It would be hectic. Not only that but the FPS would go way down i think.

[CH1LL]

Yes but having 1 means you have to choose which path you take. Either you use it actually for the smoke, or 1 for taging/purposly trying to take down enemie.

Can you imagine what would happen at the gridlock tower if everyone had 2 smokes? It would be hectic. Not only that but the FPS would go way down i think.

now that u mentioned that...it sounds kinda fun if ur just gonna be using 1 throughout the match..it would really make u use it wisely...;)

[C A 12 M 1 N E]

i think one SG is enough, you give more than 1 and they will abuse it and throw it sending bodies flying everywhere:eek:

[Nowellsy]

10 guys x 2 smokes grenades?

Think of the frame-rate, won't somebody please think of the frame-rate!
lol............