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eLectrifeye
07-09-2008, 12:44 AM
I think stopping power could be the worst part of this game. And I am speaking for the competitive side of this game, from most MLG players points of views. How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer? I dont understand what could make Epic add this to the game...In Gow 1 when people were lancering and some1 would rush them with a shotgun..that wasnt bad. It taught the other players to put away the lancer for once, and get some skil with the shotgun ( lancering takes not much skill ). I dont know what you guys think, but do you agree that this is the stupidest thing ever?
Lancering takes no skill? WRONG! It takes mucho skill to kill someone with Lancer in GOW 1. Unlike the shot gun where EVERY one uses it. Now in gow 2 You shotgun toting nubz have A LOT to worry about. Not just the Lancer, when you engage in close quarters with the wrong person who happens to be carrying a flamethrower.
SoxFan0392
07-09-2008, 12:55 AM
It's only when you charge someone and I think it's only done by a lancer or hammerburst. But yo you're about to get all these ranked kids in here saying that shotgun takes no skill. Lol.. this is Exploits btw.
italianpride127
07-09-2008, 12:57 AM
hmmm. meh idk. first of all the game is 5 or 6 month from completion so if it looks like stopping power is going to ruin the game (which it doesn't, according to all of the journalists who played for 8 hours) im sure they'll tweak it a little.
Plus all it does is prevent people from running gung-ho into you and shotgun-supermanning you which was fun, i admit, but got old after a while because it took from all other aspects of the MP besides sniping. Ugh. run on sentence.
II Echo3z II
07-09-2008, 12:59 AM
It's only when you charge someone and I think it's only done by a lancer or hammerburst. But yo you're about to get all these ranked kids in here saying that shotgun takes no skill. Lol.. this is Exploits btw.
You're exploits? oh...ok. Well I think my shotgun will be my most reliable weapon in Gears 2 since I love to close distance between me and my opponent. Yup I wanna get right in your face....:cool:
SoxFan0392
07-09-2008, 01:00 AM
You're exploits? oh...ok. Well I think my shotgun will be my most reliable weapon in Gears 2 since I love to close distance between me and my opponent. Yup I wanna get right in your face....:cool:
I seen you post on the Xbox forums.. that kid is annoying.
italianpride127
07-09-2008, 01:02 AM
You're exploits? oh...ok. Well I think my shotgun will be my most reliable weapon in Gears 2 since I love to close distance between me and my opponent. Yup I wanna get right in your face....:cool:
its gonna be harder than it was in gears one tho, so get ready for my lancer.....
no i actually suck at MP. I was a shotgun master for a while, but i stopped playing and am just picking it back up again.
II Echo3z II
07-09-2008, 01:03 AM
I seen you post on the Xbox forums.. that kid is annoying.
Yea. I wasnt even gonna log on. I just wanted to read the posts and get new info, until I saw that immature (insert choice word here). People like him serve no purpose in the world. I just had to log off so I wouldnt go out of control. When I flame, the flames are hard to douse.:cool:
italianpride127
07-09-2008, 01:06 AM
Yea. I wasnt even gonna log on. I just wanted to read the posts and get new info, until I saw that immature (insert choice word here). People like him serve no purpose in the world. I just had to log off so I wouldnt go out of control. When I flame, the flames are hard to douse.:cool:
wait which kid is this?
II Echo3z II
07-09-2008, 01:09 AM
wait which kid is this?
The guy on the xbox 360 forums for gears of war 2. I clicked a link to get there. His name was KryptoGChronic. Cant wait to see his dumbass on Gears 1 or 2.
Officer Green
07-09-2008, 01:15 AM
I think stopping power could be the worst part of this game. And I am speaking for the competitive side of this game, from most MLG players points of views. How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer?
What? Non-MLG people don't know how to flank, move, set up, and make clutches? I hate the "from an MLG perspective" crap that keeps getting posted on here. You are still going to be able to flank, move, etc, but now you are just going to have to use cover more. Gears of War 2 will be like playing Gears of War on insane mode; use cover or die.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 01:19 AM
I think stopping power could be the worst part of this game. And I am speaking for the competitive side of this game, from most MLG players points of views. How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer? I dont understand what could make Epic add this to the game...In Gow 1 when people were lancering and some1 would rush them with a shotgun..that wasnt bad. It taught the other players to put away the lancer for once, and get some skil with the shotgun( lancering takes not much skill ). I dont know what you guys think, but do you agree that this is the stupidest thing ever?
Well there is this little thing called the cover system that should be of help.
Again this game=stop N pop, in gears 2 stop N pop=pass but run N gun= the Phail
So your saying the shotgun takes skill? Swinging your camera wildy and bouncing off a wall like some raver on crack is skill? Last time I checked a good portion (at least half) of a lancer clip has to hit your target to get a down. That of course requires some aiming skill. And a shotgun generally kills in what 1-4 shots, which is mainly X factor when shooting. So please reexamine your definition of skill please and G'day.
italianpride127
07-09-2008, 01:31 AM
Well there is this little thing called the cover system that should be of help.
Again this game=stop N pop, in gears 2 stop N pop=pass but run N gun= the Phail
So your saying the shotgun takes skill? Swinging your camera wildy and bouncing off a wall like some raver on crack is skill? Last time I checked a good portion (at least half) of a lancer clip has to hit your target to get a down. That of course requires some aiming skill. And a shotgun generally kills in what 1-4 shots, which is mainly X factor when shooting. So please reexamine your definition of skill please and G'day.
I got pretty f***ed up by kids with shotties so they do take skill (in my opinion) but the stopping power is awesome, so that the shot guns dont dominate the MP in the second one as well.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 01:32 AM
Stopping power is proof EPIC observes us on LIVE.
Hooray maybe Mark Rein or Cliffy B watched me play a match before
FaLLouT
07-09-2008, 02:55 AM
Lancering takes no skill? WRONG! It takes mucho skill to kill someone with Lancer in GOW 1. Unlike the shot gun where EVERY one uses it. Now in gow 2 You shotgun toting nubz have A LOT to worry about. Not just the Lancer, when you engage in close quarters with the wrong person who happens to be carrying a flamethrower.I think he means compared to some other weapons like the battle rifle in Halo and some weapons from CoD4.
I lancer 80% of the time so I'm not trying to bash it or anything, but I think lancering is a lot easier then using a BR or other weapons from respected games because there is barely any recoil and the reticule is pretty large.
Anyways, I don't really like stopping power all that much either but it's not that bad compared to some of the other stuff they're doing with the game..
Trepidity
07-09-2008, 11:55 AM
I think stopping power could be the worst part of this game. And I am speaking for the competitive side of this game, from most MLG players points of views. How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer? I dont understand what could make Epic add this to the game...In Gow 1 when people were lancering and some1 would rush them with a shotgun..that wasnt bad. It taught the other players to put away the lancer for once, and get some skil with the shotgun ( lancering takes not much skill ). I dont know what you guys think, but do you agree that this is the stupidest thing ever?
You're just another typical MLG whiner that's just complaining that they won't be able to just run around and destroy everything with their shotgun. And yes it was bad when someone would take a hail of lancering fire and still be able to run up and blow someone up with the shotgun. Stopping power is the best feature they're putting in gears 2 so the game will actually be played the way it's supposed to be played and not a big shotty fest. Take your whiny MLG complaints elsewhere because virtually no one else agrees with you except other MLG whiners.
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 03:18 PM
the lancer is a noob weapon people run around spraying and praying with this thing takes some skill but not a lot. hell epic even said that they didnt like everyone having shoty battles they said and I quote '' its not the game we designed it for'' what the **** should they care as long as long as people buy it they should be happy. even in the new vids of gears 2 when the guy was trying to shoty that raam you all saw what a big advantage the lancer has in gears 2 hell I bet people wont even use the shoty now and the flamethrower that looks like the next noob weapon really another spray and pray weapon now the flamethrower takes no skill what so ever can you think about all the noobs running to the spawn of the flamethrower and whoring that through out the whole match... I believe that the shoty will become obsolete now thanks to epic lets face it its not that hard to dodge a charging shoty guy all you have to do is ROLL to the side problem solved.. I think that this stoping power will change gears multiplayer for ever. the era of the shoty is sadly over my friends... thanks again epic for taking the noobs side.
Taffer
07-09-2008, 03:26 PM
It taught the other players to put away the lancer for once
Here's the inherit problem with Gears 1. It didn't teach them to put the lancer away "for once," it taught them to throw it away forever and to just rush with the shotgun all the time.
I'm also curious about that flanking you're talking about, since when I play people just run straight into your face all the time and it pretty much comes down to luck.
The fact that everyone uses the shotgun is proof that using the lancer must technically take more "skill" (that's such a ****ing subjective word anyways).
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 03:57 PM
the lancer is a noob weapon people run around spraying and praying with this thing takes some skill but not a lot. hell epic even said that they didnt like everyone having shoty battles they said and I quote '' its not the game we designed it for'' what the **** should they care as long as long as people buy it they should be happy. even in the new vids of gears 2 when the guy was trying to shoty that raam you all saw what a big advantage the lancer has in gears 2 hell I bet people wont even use the shoty now and the flamethrower that looks like the next noob weapon really another spray and pray weapon now the flamethrower takes no skill what so ever can you think about all the noobs running to the spawn of the flamethrower and whoring that through out the whole match... I believe that the shoty will become obsolete now thanks to epic lets face it its not that hard to dodge a charging shoty guy all you have to do is ROLL to the side problem solved.. I think that this stoping power will change gears multiplayer for ever. the era of the shoty is sadly over my friends... thanks again epic for taking the noobs side.
Spray N Pray this Spray N Pray that. I'M SO F*CKING TIRED OF HEARING SPRAY AND PRAY. How bout just calling it blindfire like it should be. How is making you use a different weapon taking the "noobs" side. If anybody should be called a "noob" it's you for defacing the original premise of hte gears of war multiplayer. G'day to you and the rest of your "MLG PROS". Until you have something to say other than the generic, "shotty is useless, epic loves the noobs" please be quiet.
Slick vR
07-09-2008, 03:58 PM
Just let it go. Epic made the game so it suits how they wanted it, how it was suppose to be in the first place. They wanted a tactical shooter and it turned out more like a run and gun.
The one thing they shouldn't have done is make the grenades even more annoying than they are now....so you can stick them around corners on walls....I can already see kids abusing it by waiting for grenades to respawn everytime just so they can stick more all over the map. Also not to mention making it so you can stick someone from long distances. Wasnt that the problem in Gears 1 before the patch?? People were complaining the distance of sticking someone was too far so they made it closer, now you can be 20 feet away and stick someone.
Granted, it sounds good, taking the idea of the plasma grenade from Halo but it's going to get really annoying.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Honestly the long distance stick seen in the footage was probably just a bug that will most definitely be stitched up. And hopefully planted grenades dissapear or something when the owner dies.
DUBL DUECE
07-09-2008, 04:13 PM
The stick of the smoke tag in the gameplay footage, the grenade is actually thrown you can see it fly through the air and it sticks to the locust. What is confusing is Dom throws it overhand like tagging in GoW1. That may be a new feature but I don't think that was a bug/lag.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 04:15 PM
So when you get knocked over how long does it take to get up and are you still vulnerable to chainsaws and such.
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 04:16 PM
Spray N Pray this Spray N Pray that. I'M SO F*CKING TIRED OF HEARING SPRAY AND PRAY. How bout just calling it blindfire like it should be. How is making you use a different weapon taking the "noobs" side. If anybody should be called a "noob" it's you for defacing the original premise of hte gears of war multiplayer. G'day to you and the rest of your "MLG PROS". Until you have something to say other than the generic, "shotty is useless, epic loves the noobs" please be quiet.
well yeah thats what you do you spray and pray with lancer. of course epic loves the lancer they have already proclaimed their love for it in numerous interviews. **** they even made it so easy for yall to chain dont even have to line up with your enemy all you got to do is get close and hit the chaining button and automaticly it turns towards the nearest enemy even if you were facing a completeley different way just rev the chain and bam a kill. chaining is good for singleplayer but should stay out of multiplayer. lol I am not even in MLG.
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 04:18 PM
Just let it go. Epic made the game so it suits how they wanted it, how it was suppose to be in the first place. They wanted a tactical shooter and it turned out more like a run and gun.
The one thing they shouldn't have done is make the grenades even more annoying than they are now....so you can stick them around corners on walls....I can already see kids abusing it by waiting for grenades to respawn everytime just so they can stick more all over the map. Also not to mention making it so you can stick someone from long distances. Wasnt that the problem in Gears 1 before the patch?? People were complaining the distance of sticking someone was too far so they made it closer, now you can be 20 feet away and stick someone.
Granted, it sounds good, taking the idea of the plasma grenade from Halo but it's going to get really annoying.
I still think that mele and sticking is way to far I mean come on how do you lunge 10 ****ing feet?
DUBL DUECE
07-09-2008, 04:22 PM
So when you get knocked over how long does it take to get up and are you still vulnerable to chainsaws and such.
Probably as long as a stun, and I don't think you would be invulnerable, I think Epic took that out all together.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 04:28 PM
well yeah thats what you do you spray and pray with lancer. of course epic loves the lancer they have already proclaimed their love for it in numerous interviews. **** they even made it so easy for yall to chain dont even have to line up with your enemy all you got to do is get close and hit the chaining button and automaticly it turns towards the nearest enemy even if you were facing a completeley different way just rev the chain and bam a kill. chaining is good for singleplayer but should stay out of multiplayer. lol I am not even in MLG.
There is this little thing called the left trigger. It brings up a targeting reticle so you can aim. It's really helpful at long distances, ya know.
So you're telling me even if we're faciing oposite directions and I press B you still get chainsawed. Not Likely. And why should it stay out of multiplayer. Did somebody get dissected too many times?
Taffer
07-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Honestly the long distance stick seen in the footage was probably just a bug that will most definitely be stitched up.
I highly doubt that Epic would publish footage of a "bug."
well yeah thats what you do you spray and pray with lancer. of course epic loves the lancer they have already proclaimed their love for it in numerous interviews. **** they even made it so easy for yall to chain dont even have to line up with your enemy all you got to do is get close and hit the chaining button and automaticly it turns towards the nearest enemy even if you were facing a completeley different way just rev the chain and bam a kill. chaining is good for singleplayer but should stay out of multiplayer. lol I am not even in MLG.
The only thing that bugged me about the chainsaw was the bullet lag. Sometimes someone would run straight at me with it revved, and I'd shoot them, only to have the shot miss because of lag and they get the easy kill.
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 05:19 PM
There is this little thing called the left trigger. It brings up a targeting reticle so you can aim. It's really helpful at long distances, ya know.
So you're telling me even if we're faciing oposite directions and I press B you still get chainsawed. Not Likely. And why should it stay out of multiplayer. Did somebody get dissected too many times?
well since I dont have a mm&m colored button to push theres this thing its called the right mouse button it brings up the targeting reticle so you can aim. lol I grow tired of little kids running around and chaining and doing that through out the whole round its quite annoying when everyone else is using real weapons. it would be different if the chain actually had to have some level of skill involved but it sadly doesnt... lol sry your right on the chain I dont chain in multiplayer... it needs to stay out of multiplayer because most people abuse it running around and just chaining how is that supposed to be fun.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 05:23 PM
So getting close enough to your enemy to be able to use it doesn't take skill? And last time I checked those saw blades are pretty real when tearing up an enemy.
C. Freeman
07-09-2008, 05:23 PM
well since I dont have a mm&m colored button to push theres this thing its called the right mouse button it brings up the targeting reticle so you can aim. lol I grow tired of little kids running around and chaining and doing that through out the whole round its quite annoying when everyone else is using real weapons. it would be different if the chain actually had to have some level of skill involved but it sadly doesnt... lol sry your right on the chain I dont chain in multiplayer... it needs to stay out of multiplayer because most people abuse it running around and just chaining how is that supposed to be fun.
It's probably fun for the person doing the chainsawing, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. If you don't enjoy it, shoot them first or watch your flank.
Tarheal
07-09-2008, 05:26 PM
Exactly what I was thinking
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 06:25 PM
I highly doubt that Epic would publish footage of a "bug."
The only thing that bugged me about the chainsaw was the bullet lag. Sometimes someone would run straight at me with it revved, and I'd shoot them, only to have the shot miss because of lag and they get the easy kill.
indeed have had that happen plentey of times.
HonorGuard
07-09-2008, 06:26 PM
chain=noob nuff said
x BiG n TaSTEy8
07-09-2008, 07:11 PM
The only thing that bugged me about the chainsaw was the bullet lag. Sometimes someone would run straight at me with it revved, and I'd shoot them, only to have the shot miss because of lag and they get the easy kill.
That happens alot to me. I should have about 200 more kills to my total.
fatninja
07-09-2008, 07:42 PM
How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer?
What the Fu*k do you think cover's for??? Jesus Christ!
lil_kidd89
07-09-2008, 07:47 PM
I like stopping power its really not that bad guys... play counter-strike there is stopping power in that game... yes it slows you down but it doesnt render you useless or completely unable to move it just makes you think twice about running blindly into 3-4 guys... gears of war 2 will be a game made for the players who have quick reflexes but also have the smarts to go with it ... this is where the weak are separated from the strong.... the weak players are the guys who run out guns blazing now you will be punished for it and the strong no the time for doing something and t he time for playing defense... gears of war 2 will bring an entirely new and higher skill level for the game remember its not the weapon its the guy who uses it the right way at the right time that will win... thats what epic is trying to create a game with consequences and balance where you think out all your moves... where you actually become completely part of the universe not just hold the a button and keep right triggering and then scream your lungs out when you loose... we will play gears the right tactical and hard way that it was suppose to be played.
Mistahlobaloba
07-10-2008, 02:12 AM
I think stopping power could be the worst part of this game. And I am speaking for the competitive side of this game, from most MLG players points of views. How are you suppose to Flank , move , setup , and make nice clutches when you are getting slowed down by lancer? I dont understand what could make Epic add this to the game...In Gow 1 when people were lancering and some1 would rush them with a shotgun..that wasnt bad. It taught the other players to put away the lancer for once, and get some skil with the shotgun ( lancering takes not much skill ). I dont know what you guys think, but do you agree that this is the stupidest thing ever?
shotgun was more used, not lancer. So stopping power encourages people to stop whoring the shotgun
gatorxx313
07-10-2008, 04:58 AM
the lancer is a noob weapon people run around spraying and praying with this thing takes some skill but not a lot. hell epic even said that they didnt like everyone having shoty battles they said and I quote '' its not the game we designed it for'' what the **** should they care as long as long as people buy it they should be happy. even in the new vids of gears 2 when the guy was trying to shoty that raam you all saw what a big advantage the lancer has in gears 2 hell I bet people wont even use the shoty now and the flamethrower that looks like the next noob weapon really another spray and pray weapon now the flamethrower takes no skill what so ever can you think about all the noobs running to the spawn of the flamethrower and whoring that through out the whole match... I believe that the shoty will become obsolete now thanks to epic lets face it its not that hard to dodge a charging shoty guy all you have to do is ROLL to the side problem solved.. I think that this stoping power will change gears multiplayer for ever. the era of the shoty is sadly over my friends... thanks again epic for taking the noobs side.
Who are you to call the lancer a noob weapon? I've played this game since it came out and I use ALL my weapons, I use power weapons too. But I love that lancer, if I pick up a boomshot and use all the ammo, I find me another lancer and pick it up. To use the lancer/hammerburst, cover and your brain is to play this game right. To just run in like a kamikaze with your shotgun is gonna spell doom now... You should start practicing your cover skills now... because come Gears 2.... you will go down fast.
iLLusiion
07-10-2008, 08:19 AM
I think Stopping Power is a good idea. They did it in S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl, for instance. If you are sprinting and get shot, you stop sprinting immediately and go back to a slow jog. A good idea for Gears 2 would be if you put enough shots into someone who is Roadie Running away from you, he stops Roadie Running and has to wait about 2 or 3 seconds before he can continue. Yes he can roll and shoot, just not Roadie Run for a little bit. I dunno how many times rounds have been forced to a draw because someone wouldn't stop Roadie Running and always took the shortcuts so there was no real "Cut-off" area.
Who are you to call the lancer a noob weapon? I've played this game since it came out and I use ALL my weapons, I use power weapons too. But I love that lancer, if I pick up a boomshot and use all the ammo, I find me another lancer and pick it up. To use the lancer/hammerburst, cover and your brain is to play this game right. To just run in like a kamikaze with your shotgun is gonna spell doom now... You should start practicing your cover skills now... because come Gears 2.... you will go down fast.
Kinda hard to practice the cover system in Gears one because of all the Shotty-Chargers. Other than that, you do make a very well-stated point.
Also, people might want to try getting kills without wall-bouncing, as that won't be in Gears 2.
Trepidity
07-10-2008, 10:35 AM
the lancer is a noob weapon people run around spraying and praying with this thing takes some skill but not a lot. hell epic even said that they didnt like everyone having shoty battles they said and I quote '' its not the game we designed it for'' what the **** should they care as long as long as people buy it they should be happy. even in the new vids of gears 2 when the guy was trying to shoty that raam you all saw what a big advantage the lancer has in gears 2 hell I bet people wont even use the shoty now and the flamethrower that looks like the next noob weapon really another spray and pray weapon now the flamethrower takes no skill what so ever can you think about all the noobs running to the spawn of the flamethrower and whoring that through out the whole match... I believe that the shoty will become obsolete now thanks to epic lets face it its not that hard to dodge a charging shoty guy all you have to do is ROLL to the side problem solved.. I think that this stoping power will change gears multiplayer for ever. the era of the shoty is sadly over my friends... thanks again epic for taking the noobs side.
Wow you are the most stereotypical shotty whore I've ever seen. All you do is ***** about how your shotty won't be the best weapon in the game, and apparently everyone that uses a lancer is a noob, i can't stand those kinds of people. You start with a lancer too don't you? And I love how your saying a weapon takes no skill that no one has even used yet (the flamethrower). It sounds like someone doesn't know another strategy other than just rush in blindly with the shotgun, and so they get raped by the lancer.
And quit calling "chainsawing" "chaining", are you honestly that lazy to type 3 more letters? And you think that chainsawing is for noobs because you can't avoid the most avoidable death in the game. Just because everyone isn't a shotgun whore like you and actually use different weapons doesn't mean they're noobs. So please get your insanely ignorant head out of your ass and the shotgun out of your vagina.
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 12:27 PM
Wow you are the most stereotypical shotty whore I've ever seen. All you do is ***** about how your shotty won't be the best weapon in the game, and apparently everyone that uses a lancer is a noob, i can't stand those kinds of people. You start with a lancer too don't you? And I love how your saying a weapon takes no skill that no one has even used yet (the flamethrower). It sounds like someone doesn't know another strategy other than just rush in blindly with the shotgun, and so they get raped by the lancer.
And quit calling "chainsawing" "chaining", are you honestly that lazy to type 3 more letters? And you think that chainsawing is for noobs because you can't avoid the most avoidable death in the game. Just because everyone isn't a shotgun whore like you and actually use different weapons doesn't mean they're noobs. So please get your insanely ignorant head out of your ass and the shotgun out of your vagina.
looks like I hit a nerve there xD. trust me I have killed plenty of people that tried to chain me and I have nothing to prove to any of you about my gaming campabilites. lol you think I just charge in with shoty? does calling chainsawing chaining bug you? if It does I will gladley continue. I have seen first hand that shoty whores tend to be better with the power weapons like the bow and long shot compared to the lancer whores. thats just what I saw and contine to see in gears of war.not saying that there isnt any lancer whores that can shoot bow and long shot with the same accuarcey as shoty whores just saying most of the shoty players seem more skilled with the power weapons but thats my perspective. btw if I was 12 and a virgin I would crack vagina jokes to....
Sulfuric
07-10-2008, 12:46 PM
looks like I hit a nerve there xD. trust me I have killed plenty of people that tried to chain me and I have nothing to prove to any of you about my gaming campabilites. lol you think I just charge in with shoty? does calling chainsawing chaining bug you? if It does I will gladley continue. I have seen first hand that shoty whores tend to be better with the power weapons like the bow and long shot compared to the lancer whores. thats just what I saw and contine to see in gears of war.not saying that there isnt any lancer whores that can shoot bow and long shot with the same accuarcey as shoty whores just saying most of the shoty players seem more skilled with the power weapons but thats my perspective. btw if I was 12 and a virgin I would crack vagina jokes to....
Stop calling people who know that lancering and shotgunning are effective "whores". They use the weapon because they work. It's like playing Halo 2 and calling people "BR whores".
Trepidity
07-10-2008, 12:53 PM
How does using the shotgun more than the lancer or visa versa effect your ability to use power weapons? Now you are making absolutely no sense. Maybe it's much different on the PC than the console (I believe you said you play gears on pc). And gears 2 is only for the console so you'll probably still get raped if it's still a shotty fest anyway because you won't have your precious mouse and keyboard.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm just so shocked.
I can guarantee you every single weapon will have Pros and Cons. This of course creates balance which is the main goal in online play. Just because you can't use the shotgun like it's the only weapon doesn't mean the end of the world. Try opening your mind to new tactics, weaponry, and playstyles. Charging like a bull hopped up on a Monster isn't going to do anything for you in gears 2(Thank God). This will finally convince people shotty is CLOSE RANGE ONLY. Thank you for your time everyone and G'day
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 01:13 PM
Stop calling people who know that lancering and shotgunning are effective "whores". They use the weapon because they work. It's like playing Halo 2 and calling people "BR whores".
would you quit *****ing about the way I type if I wanted your advice on grammar or spelling and word useage then I will ask for it.
< Profess >
07-10-2008, 01:15 PM
I think you missed the point. He's telling you to stop being an ass.
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 01:16 PM
How does using the shotgun more than the lancer or visa versa effect your ability to use power weapons? Now you are making absolutely no sense. Maybe it's much different on the PC than the console (I believe you said you play gears on pc). And gears 2 is only for the console so you'll probably still get raped if it's still a shotty fest anyway because you won't have your precious mouse and keyboard.
like I said thats just my online PC expiernce yeah and thats what they said about halo 1 and 2 only for xbox for now give it till about maybe if were lucky a year after gears of war 2 releases then we might be playing gow2 pc :D. same with halo 3 eventually it will come to the pc. lol I dont push little m&m colored buttons I am pc only. lol ps3 has mouse and keyboard support a shame that 360 doesnt have it...
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 01:17 PM
I think you missed the point. He's telling you to stop being an ass.
I guess voicing my opinion is wrong then sorry.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 01:19 PM
I would suggest buying a 360.
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm just so shocked.
I can guarantee you every single weapon will have Pros and Cons. This of course creates balance which is the main goal in online play. Just because you can't use the shotgun like it's the only weapon doesn't mean the end of the world. Try opening your mind to new tactics, weaponry, and playstyles. Charging like a bull hopped up on a Monster isn't going to do anything for you in gears 2(Thank God). This will finally convince people shotty is CLOSE RANGE ONLY. Thank you for your time everyone and G'day
why do you constanly think that all shoty whores are steriod induced rambo fanatics? because we arent.. besides most of gears fighting is done in close to medium range unless your having a snipe battle or something else.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 01:28 PM
Wait a second. Charging madly into a group of enemies with Ol' Faithful isn't acting like a "Rambo Fanatic"? Rushing the enemy even though you know they have superior firepower with just a shotgun isn't being a Shotgun toting idiot?
Sulfuric
07-10-2008, 01:39 PM
I guess voicing my opinion is wrong then sorry.
No, voicing your opinion is fine, and the more feedback the better. But sounding like an ass while you do it is not proper feedback.
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 02:32 PM
Wait a second. Charging madly into a group of enemies with Ol' Faithful isn't acting like a "Rambo Fanatic"? Rushing the enemy even though you know they have superior firepower with just a shotgun isn't being a Shotgun toting idiot?
up close and personal for the win :D. from what I have seen thats how gears is ment to be played it being a tactical shooter is a load of horse ****. a tactical shooter is crysis or counter strike not gears of war.
HonorGuard
07-10-2008, 02:33 PM
No, voicing your opinion is fine, and the more feedback the better. But sounding like an ass while you do it is not proper feedback.
your welcome to cry if I have hurt your feelings you know?
gatorxx313
07-10-2008, 02:35 PM
up close and personal for the win :D. from what I have seen thats how gears is ment to be played it being a tactical shooter is a load of horse ****. a tactical shooter is crysis or counter strike not gears of war.
What planet do you come from? Seriously, if Gears of War wasn't meant to be tactical there would be no cover system what so ever. It would have been designed around the run n gun ideas... not stop and pop. As someone said before, Gears 2 is going to be like playing the campain on Insane. If you don't get into cover... you're dead.
iLLusiion
07-10-2008, 04:40 PM
looks like I hit a nerve there xD. trust me I have killed plenty of people that tried to chain me and I have nothing to prove to any of you about my gaming campabilites. lol you think I just charge in with shoty? does calling chainsawing chaining bug you? if It does I will gladley continue. I have seen first hand that shoty whores tend to be better with the power weapons like the bow and long shot compared to the lancer whores. thats just what I saw and contine to see in gears of war.not saying that there isnt any lancer whores that can shoot bow and long shot with the same accuarcey as shoty whores just saying most of the shoty players seem more skilled with the power weapons but thats my perspective. btw if I was 12 and a virgin I would crack vagina jokes to....
What really annoys me is this kids lack of grammar and spelling. It is the most annoying post I have ever had the displeasure to lay my eyes upon.
Trepidity
07-10-2008, 05:08 PM
up close and personal for the win :D. from what I have seen thats how gears is ment to be played it being a tactical shooter is a load of horse ****. a tactical shooter is crysis or counter strike not gears of war.
True, gears of war 1 isn't very tactical. Epic intended it to be tactical but it turned into a shotty fest. This time around with gears of war 2 they are trying to make it more tactical with the addition of things such as stopping power to prevent gears 2 from turning into another shotty fest.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 05:13 PM
Honestly I wonder how the current "pros" are going to be when gears 2 releases. I wonder if they can be called pros thanks to stopping power.
I like what Epic is trying to do, with the stopping power and to make the lancer more effective in the MP. In Gears of War 2 you are going to have to be smarter and I'm looking forward to the challenge.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 05:30 PM
Everybody but "TEH PROZORSZ" are and it's gonna be awesome! Especially campaign, ooh i get giddy just thinking about it.
Mstenger404
07-10-2008, 05:43 PM
HonorGuard I figured if you dont rush like a dumbass with your shotgun then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. It doesn't affect your style of play.
Birdy Man Bird
07-10-2008, 08:00 PM
What planet do you come from? Seriously, if Gears of War wasn't meant to be tactical there would be no cover system what so ever. It would have been designed around the run n gun ideas... not stop and pop. As someone said before, Gears 2 is going to be like playing the campain on Insane. If you don't get into cover... you're dead.
yeah? and then the multiplayer goes limp and no one plays it anymore. sorry, but stop and pop constantly would lead to a boring slow a55 game, and gears is already slow but up close and frantic in it's own glorious way.
stop trying to kill the game. there was nothing that needed to be changed about how the game actually played out, a few adjustments here and there but enough with this "this is the way the game was meant to be played" garbage.
the game wasn't a monster online success because it was broken, get a grip.
gatorxx313
07-10-2008, 08:12 PM
yeah? and then the multiplayer goes limp and no one plays it anymore. sorry, but stop and pop constantly would lead to a boring slow a55 game, and gears is already slow but up close and frantic in it's own glorious way.
stop trying to kill the game. there was nothing that needed to be changed about how the game actually played out, a few adjustments here and there but enough with this "this is the way the game was meant to be played" garbage.
the game wasn't a monster online success because it was broken, get a grip.
But it was broken. It's a glitchers paradise. Combine that with Microsoft looking the other way when you report someone for glitching and they do it endlessly. It's a truly amazing game, 2 will be even better. Epic wants the game played how they envisioned it... that is why they added stopping power and made the grenades how they are now going to be. If I developed a game, I'd want it to be played a certain way. Either people will love it or hate it, I'd be fine with that. But I'd want it played with how I envision it.
Tornadoth
07-10-2008, 08:46 PM
the lancer is a noob weapon people run around spraying and praying with this thing takes some skill but not a lot. hell epic even said that they didnt like everyone having shoty battles they said and I quote '' its not the game we designed it for'' what the **** should they care as long as long as people buy it they should be happy. even in the new vids of gears 2 when the guy was trying to shoty that raam you all saw what a big advantage the lancer has in gears 2 hell I bet people wont even use the shoty now and the flamethrower that looks like the next noob weapon really another spray and pray weapon now the flamethrower takes no skill what so ever can you think about all the noobs running to the spawn of the flamethrower and whoring that through out the whole match... I believe that the shoty will become obsolete now thanks to epic lets face it its not that hard to dodge a charging shoty guy all you have to do is ROLL to the side problem solved.. I think that this stoping power will change gears multiplayer for ever. the era of the shoty is sadly over my friends... thanks again epic for taking the noobs side.
Are you trying to make me laugh? Or is your religious affection for the shotgun really this deep?
Birdy Man Bird
07-10-2008, 10:55 PM
But it was broken. It's a glitchers paradise. Combine that with Microsoft looking the other way when you report someone for glitching and they do it endlessly. It's a truly amazing game, 2 will be even better. Epic wants the game played how they envisioned it... that is why they added stopping power and made the grenades how they are now going to be. If I developed a game, I'd want it to be played a certain way. Either people will love it or hate it, I'd be fine with that. But I'd want it played with how I envision it.
Glitchers paradise? umm, what are you talking about besides weapon sliding? and what is this "how i envisioned it" crap? you know how many people played gears of war 1 online for an entire year straight? people liked the way the game was played besides some of the unpolished issues.
this whole "lets lancer all day long" mentality is ridiculous and i hope to god gears of war 2 doesn't resort to talentless lancer battles the entire time.
in this game the lancer is the weapon that doesn't take precision and accuracy, it's the shotgun. so, i hope and pray the lancer remains a support weapon with specific counter-attack functions.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 11:00 PM
Well putting your shotgun 2 inches away from somebody's chest? No that doesn't take precision, and well luck for gears 1. Gears 2 will actually make sense with the weapons this time.
Birdy Man Bird
07-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Well putting your shotgun 2 inches away from somebody's chest? No that doesn't take precision, and well luck for gears 1. Gears 2 will actually make sense with the weapons this time.
no, but getting two inches away from someones chest takes ability. the shotgun is the dueling weapon of this game, it takes skill to wield it in such situations.
Tarheal
07-10-2008, 11:15 PM
This is not a dueling game it's a tactical squad based shooter. Those words mean NO TRYING TO BE RAMBO
Enough with the flames, closing.
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