Is there anyway to install mods in the ut3 folder instead of My Documents?

[hip63]

For those who only have one hard drive with one partition, it is no big deal but I have several partitions and one of them is especially for My Documents. I was not expecting games to place large mods in My Docs folder (personally I find this a stupid idea in the first place but others may like it I guess). The partition I have My Documents in is not particularly large. So, is there anyway to install mods and maps in the ut3 folder instead of My Documents? :confused:

hip63 :cool:

[woooo]

you can edit your shortcuts and put -nohomedir so that the game uses the instalation folder. then all you need to do is create the same public folder setup in x:\UnrealTournament3\UTGame\
so it'lll be like this: x:\UnrealTournament3\UTGame\Published

[hip63]

Hey thanks! Just what I wanted to know! :)

hip63 :cool:

[DGUnreal]

The My Documents\My Games\ (or Documents\My Games\ on Vista) is Microsoft's idea. There are a number of good and proper reasons why they are doing this.

[shombowhore]

The My Documents\My Games\ (or Documents\My Games\ on Vista) is Microsoft's idea. There are a number of good and proper reasons why they are doing this.

I disagree, particularly with Microsoft doing much of anything 'good and proper.'

[DGUnreal]

Do some IT work or software development and you will see some of the good reasons why... each My Documents is associated with each user account, network roaming profiles manage those folders, automated data duplication can be managed on servers, etc.

[{DvT}JonahHex]

PC = Personal Computer = Mine, not yours; you want a computer, get your own.

There is no good reason for "my computer" -- of course it is my computer. :D

[Crotale]

The other part of this equation is that Vista disallows certain folders from being written to from non-administrator user accounts. It is set this way to help prevent rogue programs, such as viruses, keyloggers, etc, from being installed without permission. This, of course, is enabled by default and can be overridden.

[Taboen]

PC = Personal Computer = Mine, not yours; you want a computer, get your own.

There is no good reason for "my computer" -- of course it is my computer. :D

Indeed.
If you have a Dutch XP version it will say: Deze Computer, which means This Computer.. this actually makes more sense as a name then My Computer.
In Vista it just says Computer:p

[hip63]

Well those good and proper reasons don't apply here, I am the absolute only user of this PC and I already have my own tried and true security schemes in place and if I depend only on MS good and proper security, them I'm screwed anyway, LOL (yeah I work IT too and I know all about MS good and proper)

[Xandros]

Do some IT work or software development and you will see some of the good reasons why... each My Documents is associated with each user account, network roaming profiles manage those folders, automated data duplication can be managed on servers, etc.

Those sorts of "benefits" are really only applicable in the workplace though, the average home user isn't going to need or even care about such things, and since games are played mostly on the average home user's PC, not at work, why did they implement these "benefits" in games?

It wouldn't be quite so bad that they automatically put all this stuff in particular folders, just as long as they gave you the option to change that location or names to whatever you want. There's something incredibly arrogant about the whole thing, almost as if the developers are saying they know best, and if you don't like it tough tits. Of course there's also a high level of ignorance involved. They may think they know best but the fact is I might not want anything to do with games in the documents folder because it is full of, you know, documents. Or porn. Whatever. Either way are they too stupid to realize that may be the case for some people? Or do they just not care?

I'm betting it is both.


PC = Personal Computer = Mine, not yours; you want a computer, get your own.

There is no good reason for "my computer" -- of course it is my computer. :D

Too right. I've been saying this for years. Microsoft's naming convention for these kinds of folders is patronising and redundant. Seeing as most people that own a computer only have one user account on the system despite the fact there may be multiple users, and even if there are multiple user accounts for each individual user, what possible good could come from naming a folder with the prefix "My". As if the person using the account doesn't know? I actually renamed all the "My" prefixed folders to just the proper name.

In anycase I wouldn't mind so much about there being a folder for games in Documents, but the fact the name is "My Games" pisses me off. And because I cannot change the name of that folder, it just goes back to what I was saying about limiting the choice of the user as being down right arrogant.

[hip63]

One other quick note, since, by default, mods are in the user's profile, then if say three different users all want to play UT3 with all the same mods, then you are wasting hard drive space. right now I already have two gigs of ut3 mods (I sure other have more) that were in my docs folder. So if I had two other users with the same mods installed for them, that would be 6 gigs used instead of just two. Thankfully, this tweak exists. :)

hip63 :p

[bclagge]

In anycase I wouldn't mind so much about there being a folder for games in Documents, but the fact the name is "My Games" pisses me off. And because I cannot change the name of that folder, it just goes back to what I was saying about limiting the choice of the user as being down right arrogant.

Call me crazy but I actually like the functionality of the My Documents folder. Yes, it would be great if I could move it to where I want it and manage it just how I want. But giving in and doing it their way didn't hurt my pride too much and it is very useful sometimes (e.g. moving all of my stuff to a new hard drive-just copy one folder). What I think is silly is that everything in My Documents then starts with another My. Hello, we've already determined that this is MY Documents, who else would have a Games folder in there but me?

[Xandros]

Of course, I'm not trying to say everyone doesn't like the idea behind it. It is evident most people either like it or don't mind it, or at the least don't care one way or another, otherwise they'd have probably changed their programming conventions ages ago. I'm just saying though it'd still be nice to be able to choose if we so wish to be able to put things elsewhere if we really want to. Or at the very least let us rename the folder that is being automatically created.

[CaptainSnarf]

Before it was called My Documents it was called ~/

In most unix variants, such as Xandros OS ;) , ~/ is a link to your home folder. There is no functional difference between My Documents in Windows and ~/ in unix.

[SaxxonPike]

I really preferred the folder layout of UT2004. I didn't have to worry about a tangled web of vaguely named folders. Everything was right there. Installing anything was a breeze because all the folders make sense.

Also, my game's drive is not the same as my system drive (which holds the My Documents folder) so I'd prefer to keep all the game files on the game drive regardless if they are custom or not.

[Grobut]

I just hope Epic will reconsidder this way of doing things in the future, or atleast just give us the choice when installing the games.

For thouse of us who use multiple drives and partitions, and have set them up and sized them for specific tasks, it is not a good idea, my C: drive was never intended to hold anything big aside from Win-XP and swapfile space, there's no way i could install big mods there without doing a whole reformat of that HDD and changed its partitions.

[Haley[ACS]]

I just hope Epic will reconsidder this way of doing things in the future, or atleast just give us the choice when installing the games.

For thouse of us who use multiple drives and partitions, and have set them up and sized them for specific tasks, it is not a good idea, my C: drive was never intended to hold anything big aside from Win-XP and swapfile space, there's no way i could install big mods there without doing a whole reformat of that HDD and changed its partitions.

Oh yes - I know exactly what you mean. having the same issue with the PhysX mod files. Can't install - as y C Drive has only 5GB and I only have 500MB left...