View Full Version : GoW movie in CGI?
Omega360x
04-17-2008, 07:36 AM
Actually, I think that would be sick! There's just so much more they can do with CGI movies, it's more versatile and probably cheaper than trying to make a real movie with real people. They could use the actual voice-overs and character models (just enhance the looks with up-to-date CGI). To be honest it would probably be the best game-to-movie to date.
Here is an example of some CGI movies, in-case some people don't know what it is.
Resident Evil: Degeneration http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1174954/
Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/title/ /news#ni0648853
Beowulf - Awards: 12 Nominations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0442933/
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Awards: 5 Nominations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0173840/
Carmine look-a-like? 16 17
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/
Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/news#ni0664965
Edit:I'm wrong, It's not called Cinema Graphics, it's called CGI, "Computer Generated Imagery". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-generated_imagery
RomeoSatyr
04-17-2008, 07:43 AM
CG would ruin this movie...
It must be real people.
If i wanna look at CG Gears of War, ill play the game.
BTW: Glen Jacobs for Raam!
StandupDown
04-17-2008, 12:47 PM
I vote for both. I want to see both versions.
Wow, Never thaught of that. GoW in CG would be awesome, they'd be able to add much more graphical detail, with the characters we're used of seeing, as well as proper voice-overs. Real people would be good too, I don't mind both.
theeDEATHMASTER
04-17-2008, 01:02 PM
Doesn't bother me either way but I think the action would be more convincing in Cinema graphics, since you don't really worry about safety of the actor and stuff. Stunts, etc. would be more awesome.
live-action would ruin it. There aren't many guys, let alone actors, in the world that are both super muscley as well as somewhat squatty-looking like the cogs. The whole elephant-leg thing... yeah... I mean, unless they're gonna get the guys from 300 and just put them in armor... lol
They should CG it.
FrigginFragger
04-17-2008, 03:30 PM
After watching Beowulf, I think CG is the way to go. There is a lot more they'd be able to get away with (like the fact that the sniper takes someones head off completely). If they used real acters it would encourage them to make it more realstic and less over-the-top. I just don't think that that kind of realism would be in keeping with the spirit of the game.
FrigginFragger
04-17-2008, 03:32 PM
besides, I don't want to see my favorite characters portrayed by someone else!
VanderSpleen
04-17-2008, 07:52 PM
After watching Beowulf, I think CG is the way to go. There is a lot more they'd be able to get away with (like the fact that the sniper takes someones head off completely). If they used real acters it would encourage them to make it more realstic and less over-the-top. I just don't think that that kind of realism would be in keeping with the spirit of the game.
though I would rather a CG Movie, you are wrong about the realism and going over the top thing..Look at the new Rambo, the last couple of scenes were more Gory and gut wrenching then anything I have ever seen... when the white guy snipes all those guys in the head,Looks just like Gears... But IMO CG is the way to go..I love the characters we have now,and the way they look is just sooo Cool, a Live action movie of Gears might turn out to be Doom or Resident Evil 1, eff-that.. and that way we can keep the same looking Locust and same voices and everything,just with way way way more Detail...
Omega360x
04-18-2008, 01:28 PM
wow! didn't expect so many voters. I think CG would seriously rock. Seeing both would be a great option too.
EDIT: (just wanted to add) What they can do with CG today is just unbelievably awesome. Some have already said theres so much more you can do with CG characters than real people. In my opinion, there's no way they can make the locust look and move as good as they do in CG....no way.
silvister
04-19-2008, 07:53 AM
i give vote to Yes, make it Cinema Graphic! That would rock!.:confused::p
Fuzzle
04-20-2008, 12:05 PM
What I really hate about CG movies is the facial animation, or lack thereof. The only time I'll think CG facial animation is good, is in a stylized / cartoony setting. I don't think I've ever seen a convincing CG face that animated convincingly as well.
What I *like* about CG though is the freedom. The sky is the limit when it comes to stunts, settings, design, whatever.
That said, this is something they've already decided a long time ago.
And by the way, they should hire Uwe Boll to make an ad for this movie. Simply have him go "I DID NAAT HAF ANYSING TO DO WITH ZIS MOVEE" or something. Ratings would skyrocket.
Omega360x
04-28-2008, 07:43 AM
What I really hate about CG movies is the facial animation, or lack thereof. The only time I'll think CG facial animation is good, is in a stylized / cartoony setting. I don't think I've ever seen a convincing CG face that animated convincingly as well.
What I *like* about CG though is the freedom. The sky is the limit when it comes to stunts, settings, design, whatever.
That said, this is something they've already decided a long time ago.
And by the way, they should hire Uwe Boll to make an ad for this movie. Simply have him go "I DID NAAT HAF ANYSING TO DO WITH ZIS MOVEE" or something. Ratings would skyrocket.
Some good points, facial animation was lacking but I think this time around things would be a lot better in that department. When you said this is something they've already decided a long time ago, who were you talking about? Epic making the movie in CG?
I've been gone for a week, sorry if I've revived a old thread.
Trooper
04-28-2008, 11:14 AM
My two cents.....
You gave kinda misleading choices in the poll. The OP obviously doesn't want CGI because the way he worded it.
I voted No but I don't think CGI sucks.
I want real actors with CGI enemies, which is what they are doing.
theron
04-28-2008, 11:36 AM
What I really hate about CG movies is the facial animation, or lack thereof.
Watch this! :D
I think its pretty good...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJLXClKq40
matticus
04-28-2008, 12:25 PM
CG all the way!
Omega360x
04-28-2008, 12:49 PM
My two cents.....
You gave kinda misleading choices in the poll. The OP obviously doesn't want CGI because the way he worded it.
I voted No but I don't think CGI sucks.
I want real actors with CGI enemies, which is what they are doing.
How was the poll misleading? Where did I say I didn't want CG?
To be honest it would probably be the best game-to-movie to date.
How is that saying I don't want CG?
..and the poll choices? one says Yes, the other says No...how is that misleading? Please explain....
Who told you there was gonna be real actors with CGI enemies? source?
COGG1138
04-28-2008, 07:34 PM
Acctually I would like to see it all CG. Final Fantasy: TSW was way too cool for its time (although the story was not so very groundbreaking). I like that movie very much to this day despite its arguable flaws. And I loved the Final Flight of the Osiris as well, so there is nothing to loose with that (imho).
p.s. but anyway, who will listen to our rants/wishes, especially HERE !!! LOL! We´re just the lowest lowlife users/community, so WHOOOO CAAAAARES ?! ...
Omega360x
04-29-2008, 07:32 AM
I doubt they would make the movie CG just because we wanted it, Epic has the final decision on how they make their movie, I just wanted to throw in a little idea and it seems that some people actually like it. I know I would love to see this movie in CG. I'm just afraid they are gonna make another Doom or Bloodryne, both horrible movie's.
The reason why I made this thread was because I just think the movie wouldn't feel right using other actors that look different and with different voices playing the characters I really like. I've got really high expectation for this movie. I hope they can pull it off.
Omega360x
05-01-2008, 11:27 AM
Watch this! :D
I think its pretty good...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJLXClKq40
WoW! Thats actually really good looking....wow! Seriously if this movie was in CG it would be insane!
JoeyTheBEAST
05-01-2008, 02:44 PM
no CG man. i agree with Romeo Satyr.a movie would be cool but no CG.
Omega360x
05-02-2008, 07:43 AM
no CG man. i agree with Romeo Satyr.a movie would be cool but no CG.
You and Romeo are nuts! You guys don't know what CG is if you are comparing GoW with a real CG movie. CG would look 100 times better than the game. Don't get me wrong GoW looks sweet but if done in CG the difference would be obvious. But I guess thats just my opinion...
BrendanL
05-02-2008, 09:15 AM
Have you guys seen that CG Coke commercial that was showing last year, well, at least in Canada? That was awesome. And for those who don't know what CG is capable of. For high budget CG stuff, it may take months to create a couple of frames. Because it is not real time, they can make the movie look insanely great. And real actors would seem out of place. The Gears movie was meant to be CG.
Omega360x
05-03-2008, 08:43 AM
Have you guys seen that CG Coke commercial that was showing last year, well, at least in Canada? That was awesome. And for those who don't know what CG is capable of. For high budget CG stuff, it may take months to create a couple of frames. Because it is not real time, they can make the movie look insanely great. And real actors would seem out of place. The Gears movie was meant to be CG.
Amen to that brotha! ;)
Omega360x
05-05-2008, 07:35 AM
OK Epic, you gotta make the Gears movie in CG cause 26 out of 4million people wanna see it in CG..../sarcasm off
Theres no way we would generate enough votes anyways. ;)
Omega360x
05-14-2008, 01:07 PM
*cough* CG would be better than real people *cough*
shard765
06-17-2008, 10:49 AM
There's no point in debating this. Les Wiseman is directing. He's not gonna direct a cg movie. He deals with action and real people. Besides, someone else here already put it best. If you wanna see cg characters..... play the game. Come one people! This movie will be filmed similar to 300 as I here so you will get plenty of cg but thank god the characters will be played by flesh and blood actors.
Omega360x
06-18-2008, 08:55 AM
There's no point in debating this. Les Wiseman is directing. He's not gonna direct a cg movie. He deals with action and real people. Besides, someone else here already put it best. If you wanna see cg characters..... play the game. Come one people! This movie will be filmed similar to 300 as I here so you will get plenty of cg but thank god the characters will be played by flesh and blood actors.
I'm sure the movie will be action packed, but the acting I'm sure will suck ass and the voices will not be true. The game doesn't come very close to what CGI looks like today, no way.
CG would have been better by far. Thats to bad cause the movie IS gonna suck with real people.
Azog 150
06-18-2008, 09:18 AM
I think CG. However, If it was done like 300 with real actors it would be great!!! But if it was real actors, I would want to see other characters other then Marcus etc.
Seeing an actor try and play him would suck and he would look completely different and sound completely different. If it is starring Marcus etc, then CG all the way.
Omega360x
06-19-2008, 07:16 AM
If it was done like 300, GoW movie probably would have been pretty good but because it's gonna be a cross between Tokyo Drift and Die Hard 4, I don't have much hope.
Even if the story is well scripted, Directed and Produced, it's the voices of the characters thats gonna kill it....imo.
FF Retalliation xX
06-19-2008, 10:27 AM
first of all best movie adaptation to date is final fantasy VII Advent children
(but can yuo call it an adaptation, its not the same story line, which is why its so good, i dont want a 60 hour game summed up in 90minutes)
and that goes for gears, id rather have real people, but aslo9ng as they make a new story, a sequel to gears of war 2 maybe, then make gears of war 3 a sequel to the movie, just dont some up a 10 hour game in 90 minutes theres just no point.
CG feels to me very japanese now, and is only needed for amazing stunts that would look wierd in real life, like hold a sword double your size that can split i9nto 7 other swords.
but notice FF7 has no blood, well very little, the gore would look wierd in CG for me, it would just take away from the darkness and gloom that is Gears of war.
i say half and half, its been done in many films and it works really well, what needs to be CGd gets Cg the bulk of it is real.
SHOGUN 47
06-19-2008, 10:05 PM
I would like to have real people in it, but using CG is too risky. People will look at it as if its a video game rather than a real movie. They should use real people, but make the Locust CG and most of the environments.
Omega360x
06-20-2008, 07:52 AM
Some great opinions, keep them coming people!
SHOGUN 47
06-20-2008, 08:04 AM
Screw CG, keep it real. Becuase in 10 years, the CG is going to look outdated. But if you use real people, it becomes a classic. Just imagine 30 years down the road......
that is why I hate CG
LoneWulv
06-20-2008, 11:46 AM
Seeing an actor try and play him would suck and he would look completely different and sound completely different. If it is starring Marcus etc, then CG all the way.
actually, i know the best person to play marcus fenix. Ron Perlman. he plays hellboy, hes got the great look and the great voice for a badass character like marcus.
Omega360x
06-20-2008, 01:32 PM
actually, i know the best person to play marcus fenix. Ron Perlman. he plays hellboy, hes got the great look and the great voice for a badass character like marcus.
I'm gonna have to disagree here, even though Ron has a good voice for MArcus, his jaw is waaay to big. That dude has a grill not even Mike Tyson can break....or bite...
Omega360x
06-27-2008, 07:52 AM
Well it's nice to know theres some people out there who agree that CGI would be better than real people. :)
SHOGUN 47
06-27-2008, 07:59 AM
CGI has a weakness, it starts to look like crap in 10 years. And then its like watching an outdated video game, and it sucks becuase we start to compare other things to it.
ARman
06-27-2008, 02:30 PM
Seriously you don’t want real actors, because the people they will bring in will just be laughable!
Doom for example that film had nothing to do with the game and why was the rock in it and who was he supposed to be its stupid to use actors for a video game movie it should stay in video game form.
By doing this you can do a lot more extravagant things such as headshots.... ect ect.
if this movie is acted out it will ruin the whole gears universe for me I think because as I stated they will just get actors that have not got a clue about gears and the whole feel of gears they should just make it "record for most expensive CGI movie" would make a lot of sense to me IMO
SHOGUN 47
06-27-2008, 04:15 PM
If they are going to make it CGI, then they better make it the best of the best.
Taffer
06-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Screw CG, keep it real. Becuase in 10 years, the CG is going to look outdated. But if you use real people, it becomes a classic. Just imagine 30 years down the road......
That's a very good point.
I'm not a fan of CGI full movies if they aren't comical or light-hearted in nature (i.e. Pixar). It's simply never worked for me. I thought both Final Fantasy movies were pretty bad (yes, I think Advent Children is absolutely awful), although Spirits Within looked pretty great for the time.
because as I stated they will just get actors that have not got a clue about gears
I don't understand how this is any different from them having a CGI movie. If the producers/director are careless enough to hire poor live actors, then having those same people making a CGI movie will also result in careless decisions, like green-lighting a poor script, hiring a poor CGI crew, not staying true to source material, etc.
I'm open to the idea of CGI, as I suppose it could grow to become something better. But if I had to choose right here and right now I'd go for live action.
SoaNaDe
06-27-2008, 10:49 PM
I want a CG Gears movie.. I just have a REALLY bad feeling about live action video game movies...
Wisdom Thumbs
06-27-2008, 10:58 PM
actually, i know the best person to play marcus fenix. Ron Perlman. he plays hellboy, hes got the great look and the great voice for a badass character like marcus.
Kind of sort of, he seems like the perfect actor, but the voice of Marcus Fenix would be harsh as hell on his voice; he'd probably never recover, and then we'd all be pissed because Hellboy III will sound like he's a recovering chainsmoker.
Hellboy was ****ing awesome, can't wait to see The Golden Army.
Screw CG, keep it real. Becuase in 10 years, the CG is going to look outdated. But if you use real people, it becomes a classic. Just imagine 30 years down the road......
that is why I hate CG
...Uh, Toy Story anybody? Or what about 300? A decade from now people will still see them as classics, or at least they will with Toy Story; I'm not sure about 300. Either way, if you try to make it look as realistic as possible then it's going to end up outdated some time from now. But if you work with what you've got and go for a style, then nobody can say it's really outdated.
II Echo3z II
06-28-2008, 01:35 AM
A gears of war movie should be CG. There's more you can do with CG. You wont have to worry about almost-look-alikes in the movie and they will have their original voices. Unlike in a movie with real people, the people who play as the characters wont have the same voices as they do in the game. And huge armor would look kinda dumb on real humans. Also some CG effects mixed in with real humans would look cheesy at times.
CG is preferred for this kind of thing...
Omega360x
06-28-2008, 12:43 PM
If they are going to make it CGI, then they better make it the best of the best.
You know EPIC would put the money up front for the best CGI technology. Then again, they are going the cheapest way out by using real people. :rolleyes:
I want a CG Gears movie.. I just have a REALLY bad feeling about live action video game movies...
Ya, that's cause every video game movie has sucked and they all were REAL PEOPLE. Time for a change?
Omega360x
07-14-2008, 07:47 AM
I still think CG would be the best thing for this movie. This movie would win so many awards and break records if it was CG. :)
Omega360x
08-14-2008, 07:27 AM
321 contact!
Kryllionare
08-14-2008, 01:07 PM
CG would just make it look like the game. So they would be turning exactly whats in the game to a movie. Its the same thing but u don't get to play. CG is a terrible idea!!!
Kryllionare
08-14-2008, 01:10 PM
Kind of sort of, he seems like the perfect actor, but the voice of Marcus Fenix would be harsh as hell on his voice; he'd probably never recover, and then we'd all be pissed because Hellboy III will sound like he's a recovering chainsmoker.
Hellboy was ****ing awesome, can't wait to see The Golden Army.
...Uh, Toy Story anybody? Or what about 300? A decade from now people will still see them as classics, or at least they will with Toy Story; I'm not sure about 300. Either way, if you try to make it look as realistic as possible then it's going to end up outdated some time from now. But if you work with what you've got and go for a style, then nobody can say it's really outdated.
Toy Story is a little kids movie! I don't think it's possible to make a CG movie rated R.
chazz77
08-15-2008, 11:51 AM
im not to sure
CG would make to movie brilliant because we could have the characters how we see them in the game and their voices ,but soon it will look out dateish and many people h8 CG movies because of the lack of realism and also itll make to the gears games look crap then if gears 3 comes out we will want as good graphics as the cg film and thats almost impossible
A live action movie would look a classic but could be screwed up if not done right and also cg can do things live action can't. But if new line got a company like Weta to do the locust they would look amazing look at the orcs in the lord of the rings, the film would be more realistic and also we would have huge movie stars but also we may not like certain actors in the role of marcus and our favourite characters
both are good but both have huge downfalls NEW line better make the right choice if the film will rock if not Gears will defiantly lose its reputation and also the film will be a crap version of doom if not done correctly
no pressure ............ I hope the movie is brilliant because gears if the best game i have ever played so much background Epic games could make a new line of games such as the pendulum wars or other things but if dont correctly the film will be perfect... :)
Omega360x
08-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Great opinion guys! Keep'em comming.
LocustTheron05
08-18-2008, 08:24 AM
Its computer generated BTW
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:00 PM
CG all the way..... no one could get the voices down, even if they could actually get the look, and i dont want actors ruining my favorite story
Taffer
08-18-2008, 08:01 PM
i dont want actors ruining my favorite story
Actors ruin stories?
You must hate all movies.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:11 PM
Actors ruin stories?
You must hate all movies.
i dont like alot of them, no.....
carst
08-18-2008, 08:21 PM
i don't want 2 see any of my fav characters turned into gimicky wrestlers like they did with doom. cgi it! the action will be exactly what the fans wont and it will fall in 2 the game like another capter. that my vuiw
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 08:33 PM
in this case think you have to think about it differently. How is this movie going to sell? People aren't going to be interested in some CG crap about a video game. It would simply not make money. you need live actors. The gamers who play GoW are probably the only ones that will go see the CG movie. Thats why star wars clone wars will be a giant flop. Only the diehard fans and little kids are going to want to see that. If Gears is going to have a movie it can't be in CG.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:34 PM
in this case think you have to think about it differently. How is this movie going to sell? People aren't going to be interested in some CG crap about a video game. It would simply not make money. you need live actors. The gamers who play GoW are probably the only ones that will go see the CG movie. Thats why star wars clone wars will be a giant flop. Only the diehard fans and little kids are going to want to see that. If Gears is going to have a movie it can't be in CG.
i beleive final fantasy: advent children sold rather well, and it was a CG movie based off of a video game
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 08:36 PM
i beleive final fantasy: advent children sold rather well, and it was a CG movie based off of a video game
No it did not. This movie is going to theatres and it has to appeal to more than just the fan base of the game.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:40 PM
No it did not. This movie is going to theatres and it has to appeal to more than just the fan base of the game.
well, you know, there are alot of gears fans..... it would sell well even if it did only appeal to us
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 08:46 PM
well, you know, there are alot of gears fans..... it would sell well even if it did only appeal to us
Again you're false. There are many GoW fans but not enough to have the movie be succesful. Think about it man the movie is going to cost millions of dollars to make. That means that they need not only the fan base of the game but also other people. If the movie is made in CG it will not appeal to others as much. This is all about money. They won't release the movie if they know it's not going to appeal to people besides the fans.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:54 PM
Again you're false. There are many GoW fans but not enough to have the movie be succesful. Think about it man the movie is going to cost millions of dollars to make. That means that they need not only the fan base of the game but also other people. If the movie is made in CG it will not appeal to others as much. This is all about money. They won't release the movie if they know it's not going to appeal to people besides the fans.
well, heres a question for you: are the people who play the game really the only ones who are going to watch it? games cost alot more to make than movies, and while they cost a bit more, they still make profits. now, $60 for a game that took $10 million to make, ok? (rough estamate) still made money, and you only need one copy to play a bunch of (3 lets say) freinds only need to buy one copy. thats $15 per person for a lifetime.
now a movie, which costs lets say $5 million sells for $5 a ticket for one veiwing. now, you need to put in $20 to get those same freinds into see the movie one time. now, you add in the $30 for the families of those freinds and girlfreinds and such, and your paying $50 (around the same price of the game) for something you have to pay to see again and it took half as much to make. now, lets say they are complete nerds (no derrogitory meant) and 2 of them buys the DVD when it gets released, and those cost around $10-15 per (lets go happy medium and say $12.5)
on that one group of freinds buying one game, you made $60
on that same group of freinds watching the movie, you made $75,
and the movie cost half as much to make
Taffer
08-18-2008, 08:57 PM
games cost alot more to make than movies
...What the ****?
i don't want 2 see any of my fav characters turned into gimicky wrestlers like they did with doom.
Cliff has already stated that there won't be any wrestlers trying to act in a Gears movie.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 08:58 PM
...What the ****?
have you ever seen "meet the spartans"?
cheap as ****
also, with games, you have to make it where everywhere you can see, you can go.
a (CG) movie just has to make them do something, no control over what happens when the watcher does this, what happens when the watcher does that
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 09:02 PM
well, heres a question for you: are the people who play the game really the only ones who are going to watch it? games cost alot more to make than movies, and while they cost a bit more, they still make profits. now, $60 for a game that took $10 million to make, ok? (rough estamate) still made money, and you only need one copy to play a bunch of (3 lets say) freinds only need to buy one copy. thats $15 per person for a lifetime.
now a movie, which costs lets say $5 million sells for $5 a ticket for one veiwing. now, you need to put in $20 to get those same freinds into see the movie one time. now, you add in the $30 for the families of those freinds and girlfreinds and such, and your paying $50 (around the same price of the game) for something you have to pay to see again and it took half as much to make. now, lets say they are complete nerds (no derrogitory meant) and 2 of them buys the DVD when it gets released, and those cost around $10-15 per (lets go happy medium and say $12.5)
on that one group of freinds buying one game, you made $60
on that same group of freinds watching the movie, you made $75,
and the movie cost half as much to make
Okay listen, they are not making the movie for the fans alone. They want to draw in a new crowd. Just because you want it to be in CG doesn't mean anything. If the movie is going to do well and attract new people then it has to be done in live action. If the movie were to be made in CG it wouldn't draw in a new crowd and it would not do well. Your points saying that people are going to bring there whole family and there dogs to see the movie is highly unlikely. It's inevitable that the movie will do better if it is done with live action.
Taffer
08-18-2008, 09:04 PM
I'll probably gouge out my eyes before I watch Meet the Spartans or Epic Movie or whatnot.
But seriously, it was a very strange thing to say. Movies cost several times more money to make than games. I believe Gears took about $6 million to make (correct me if I'm wrong). For a movie with a lot of special effects, $40 million is considered a fairly low-budget movie. And if you're Peter Jackson, you'll use somewhere around $200 million.
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 09:04 PM
have you ever seen "meet the spartans"?
cheap as ****
also, with games, you have to make it where everywhere you can see, you can go.
a (CG) movie just has to make them do something, no control over what happens when the watcher does this, what happens when the watcher does that
Your going to compare the Gears of War movie to Meet the Spartans!!!!? What the hell are you smoking?! Obviously the movie isn't going to be dirt cheap, and it's definately going to cost more then meet the spartans. My god.
ShadowX777
08-18-2008, 09:06 PM
I'll probably gouge out my eyes before I watch Meet the Spartans or Epic Movie or whatnot.
But seriously, it was a very strange thing to say. Movies cost several times more money to make than games. I believe Gears took about $6 million to make (correct me if I'm wrong). For a movie with a lot of special effects, $40 million is considered a fairly low-budget movie. And if you're Peter Jackson, you'll use somewhere around $200 million.
Thank you!! The Gears movie is definately going to cost a lot of money. Maybe not around $200 million, but certainly more than a game, much much more.
Mortificus
08-18-2008, 09:10 PM
Your going to compare the Gears of War movie to Meet the Spartans!!!!? What the hell are you smoking?! Obviously the movie isn't going to be dirt cheap, and it's definately going to cost more then meet the spartans. My god.
dude, i dont smoke, maybe thats why you and me arent seeing eye to eye;)
ok, maybe its not cheaper, but it sure as hell is going to get more hype. more hype=more people interested, more people interested= more people watching it
and shadow, why do you think sex and the city did so well? it wasnt because of the fans, it was because of the people dragged to it who didnt even want to go
Thank you!! The Gears movie is definately going to cost a lot of money. Maybe not around $200 million, but certainly more than a game, much much more.
its going to bring in alot more than a game will, also.... to quote Yogurt "everyone knows that the real money comes from the merch-andising"
Crusader1099
08-18-2008, 11:58 PM
I'm a hardcore filmmaker and would rather use life actors and what not, but people, we must remember this is a game movie. I would prefer this movie to be CG, but not like the examples of Final Fantasy (those were terrrible), maybe Beowulf or better. And this means a lot coming from me. This way they can keep the characters looking the same, the voices the same, and are also able to do a lot more visually. :)
StickSkills
08-19-2008, 12:00 AM
I would hate one in CG, personally.
Omega360x
08-19-2008, 08:08 AM
Again you're false. There are many GoW fans but not enough to have the movie be succesful. Think about it man the movie is going to cost millions of dollars to make. That means that they need not only the fan base of the game but also other people. If the movie is made in CG it will not appeal to others as much. This is all about money. They won't release the movie if they know it's not going to appeal to people besides the fans.
I understand your point but who else is gonna wanna see a Gears of War movie based on a video beside the fans and video gamers? I think the majority of the people who saw Doom were fans of the game, same thing with Mortal Kombat and Final Fantasy etc.
To talk about sales: All sales are gross to date
CGI====> Beowulf Total US Gross, $82,195,215. International Gross, $112,800,000. Worldwide Gross, $194,995,215
CGI==> Final Fantasy: Advent Children had sold over 2.4 million DVD copies (didn't make much but it was still a good movie, better than Tomb Raider imho)
CGI===>Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) Domestic Total Gross: $32,131,830 Worldwide total gross: $62,600,000 (it was a huge flop but better movie (story wise) than Tomb Raider, Doom or Mortal Kombat imho)
Real Actors ===>Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) Worldwide total gross $251,600,000 (only because it's Angelina Jole who played in it, we all know how terrible this movie was)
Real Actors===>Doom Domestic: $28,212,337 Worldwide:. $55,987,321
Real Actors===>Mortal Kombat Total US Gross, $70,433,227.
International Gross, $51,700,000. Worldwide Gross, $122,133,227 Sales to date, this movie was released in 1995 so it's had 13+ years to get this gross.
To be totally honest all these movies (CGI & real actors) flopped at the box office. They all made less than $200 Million gross at the box office. Gears of War will be no different so why not make something the fans will like...CGI. :)
info links:
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide
http://itssamsview.blogspot.com/2006/03/biggest-movie-flops-of-all-time.html
Dark Infinity 1
08-19-2008, 03:36 PM
first of all best movie adaptation to date is final fantasy VII Advent children
Actually I believe the Highest grossing Game-Move adaptation is the Tomb Raider Series grossing over $300,000,000 worldwide (as reported on Wikipedia). followed by the Resident Evil series which still took all three to catch up to the first tomb raider movie.
games cost alot more to make than movies,
That's debatable look at the Halo Movie or lack there of.
have you ever seen "meet the spartans"?
cheap as ****
If you are going to pick one of the cheapest movies to make and call it the benchmark then lets at least be fair and pick the cheapest game to make... (any of the XBLA games probably not all the cheapest but still cheap to make) and call you comparison still wrong as [insert expletive here]
So my opinion overall. Use Real people but don't be afraid to use CG for special effects as it was meant to be. Beyond Pixar and some other kid related CG movies how many fully CG movies can you name that were truly successful (not just bada$$ in your own opinion.)
Don't take this the wrong way I am a big fan of the FF movies and Titan A.E. But compared to what they can do with real people they just don't stack up.
Dark Infinity 1
08-19-2008, 03:43 PM
Although to be completely fair. There are some game-movie titles with real people that have been BIG flops. Super Mario Bros, Doom, I would even throw mortal kombat in to this category IMO.
But one of the first and one of my favorites TRON. Which did alright for it's time.
Mortificus
08-19-2008, 03:54 PM
If you are going to pick one of the cheapest movies to make and call it the benchmark then lets at least be fair and pick the cheapest game to make... (any of the XBLA games probably not all the cheapest but still cheap to make) and call you comparison still wrong as [insert expletive here]
Don't take this the wrong way I am a big fan of the FF movies and Titan A.E. But compared to what they can do with real people they just don't stack up.
well, what i was trying to say was: you dont need it to be super expensive to make alot of money off of todays dumb as **** kids. me and my friends are actually considering makeing a movie called "not another movie movie" where its just us, and we would probably make money off of it (sad, but true)
and you see, real actors just wouldnt come close to John or any of the other people with the voices, and while quite a few people could get the look down, it just wouldnt be the same.
and have you ever heard of Prince of Persia? Ubisoft decided to appeal to the masses instead of its fans, and it dissappointed all of the origional games fans, just so they could make the game goryer and darker. i really dont want to see epic make the same mistake
Dark Infinity 1
08-19-2008, 04:35 PM
and you see, real actors just wouldnt come close to John or any of the other people with the voices, and while quite a few people could get the look down, it just wouldnt be the same.
Agreed. That has to be one of the major downfalls of the movies. Although they did a fairly good job with AJ in Tomb Raider (size, shape with some help, and voice, well close). It won't be exactly the same but I'm sure if they try... and they better... they can come close.
But it does come down to one major problem that people in general have. They want the "exact" same thing from a movie as they get from a game or book. A lot of people expect perfection and sorry that just will never happen. Take Harry Potter for example. Over all great movies. Fairly close to the books but not 'exactly' the same so people get mad and are ready to throw it under the bus. If you go in with the mind set of 'If I had no idea where this movie came from would it be a good movie?' Because when it hits theaters, I would guess more than half the viewers will have never played GoW. So to ignore the mainstream and 'appease' the hardcore fans would be just a bad business decision. (As much as I too wouldn't mind seeing and 'exact' adaptation)
Taffer
08-19-2008, 04:35 PM
and have you ever heard of Prince of Persia? Ubisoft decided to appeal to the masses instead of its fans, and it dissappointed all of the origional games fans, just so they could make the game goryer and darker. i really dont want to see epic make the same mistake
The original fans ALWAYS get dissappointed when they change anything, that's just how it works. It's like how some bands change their style a tad and some of the original fans get pissed about it, but who really cares? Their new stuff becomes awesome and some people will always be stuck in the past. It's been like this with bands like Muse and Coldplay, and most likely most others as well.
it just wouldnt be the same.
It SHOULDN'T be the same. I don't just want one of the cutscenes from the game prolonged for two hours, I want something that is going to be different from the game in some regards. If it were the same then what incentive do I have to watch the movie instead of just replay the game?
Gears of War will be no different so why not make something the fans will like...CGI.
I'm a fan, and I would not like CGI. I've just never been crazy about full CGI movies. There's so many intricacies in human body language and emotions that we simply can't match it in CGI. I have yet to see CGI match up to live action. Maybe in the future, but not now.
Dark Infinity 1
08-19-2008, 04:40 PM
and have you ever heard of Prince of Persia? Ubisoft decided to appeal to the masses instead of its fans, and it dissappointed all of the origional games fans, just so they could make the game goryer and darker. i really dont want to see epic make the same mistake
Not sure what that has to to with the Movie comparison, but I'll run with it. It goes back to the same thing about people wanting 'exactly' the same thing in sequels as well as adaptations. Personally I think the FF people did the best thing ever, make no connection (or very few) between sequels' story lines just keep the basic ideas, and look how long they've kept going.
On the flip side sometimes a long storyline needs to span a fhttp://gearsforums.epicgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gifew games otherwise it would be one long game. (not that I wouldn't mind that.)
So all in all I will say this. for the hardcore fan. Yeah a CG movie with the same voice actors as the game would be perfect. For a great movie (great meaning good enough to warrant a sequel in the theater and the main stream) Human actors is the way to go. We do want a sequel right? The more Gears the better!!!:cool:
Omega360x
08-21-2008, 11:20 AM
How about this, make the Movies CGI, then come out with a series involving real actors? We all know in a series you don't need the original voices or even the same actors from the movies, just as long as the story is good and the actors are OK then you can have a pretty good series. Let me tell you, if they came out with a GoW series with real actors I would watch the whole series and if they plan it out right it could go on for several years.
...or..
Vice versa, real actors in the movies and a CGI series?
What do you think?
Dark Infinity 1
08-21-2008, 11:25 AM
I think the other way around would be better myself. Real actors in the movie and a CGI series.
OR
Real actors for both.:eek:
babygirl61194
08-21-2008, 01:00 PM
i wanna watch real ppl chainsaw real locusts!!!!!
marcusfenix0991
08-21-2008, 09:28 PM
i dont think anyone looks like marcus. and dont give me that crap o batista looks like him... he doesnt even look close. hes too tan and his soulpatch is too small (he could grow it) but still no one looks like marcus and if they do it wrong i will hate the movie cause marcus doesnt look like himself. i mean at least the other characters have lookalikes like baird val kilmer dom the guy from bad boys 2 that is hispanic (he wears the orange shirt in the final shoot out)
babygirl61194
08-21-2008, 11:47 PM
actually i think frankie G shld play dom
Omega360x
08-22-2008, 08:53 AM
I want a CG Gears movie.. I just have a REALLY bad feeling about live action video game movies...
lol, let me guess why? Because every live action video game movie has sucked? ;)
I agree.
i wanna watch real ppl chainsaw real locusts!!!!!
Hey who knows maybe live action might....just might look ok.......NAAAAAHH!
i dont think anyone looks like marcus. and dont give me that crap o batista looks like him... he doesnt even look close. hes too tan and his soulpatch is too small (he could grow it) but still no one looks like marcus and if they do it wrong i will hate the movie cause marcus doesnt look like himself. i mean at least the other characters have lookalikes like baird val kilmer dom the guy from bad boys 2 that is hispanic (he wears the orange shirt in the final shoot out)
Wrong thread dude, actor look-a-likes-thread is that way=====>
I think the other way around would be better myself. Real actors in the movie and a CGI series.
OR
Real actors for both.:eek:
No, no no no lol, they have to give us atleast one CGI movie or series. You can't have both Dark Infinity ;)
Dark Infinity 1
08-22-2008, 10:51 AM
lol, let me guess why? Because every live action video game movie has sucked? ;)
What about Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Tron...
Wrong thread dude, actor look-a-likes-thread is that way=====>
We are talking about whether this game would make a better CGI movie or live action movie so I think figuring out if someone could playe each part might be part of the argument
No, no no no lol, they have to give us atleast one CGI movie or series. You can't have both Dark Infinity ;)
Why not, I like having my cake and eating it too.:D
DOOMBRINGER 8
08-22-2008, 12:34 PM
I think for Gears to work as a live action film, it would have to be done with the same grit and drama as, say... Saving Private Ryan or Flags of our Fathers. It can't be the run of the mill action shoot 'em up.
italianpride127
08-22-2008, 05:41 PM
Yeahhhh no. I hope its real actors. Not any meathead wrestlers but real actors and not animated. I just want this to break the "video game movies suck mold".
Omega360x
08-25-2008, 08:17 AM
What about Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Tron...
Tomb Raider was horrible, IMHO it only made so much money because Angelina played the main character role. Do you think the movie would have made that much if say, Drew Barrymore played the role? I don't think so. Resident Evil (the first one) was pretty good. Tron was awesome.
0mega
We are talking about whether this game would make a better CGI movie or live action movie so I think figuring out if someone could playe each part might be part of the argument
I know I just didn't want it to turn into another "wreslters would rule GoW movie" or "GTFO Wrestlers can't act" type of thread. I think this thread has been going very well and I'm really enjoying everyones feedback. Great opinions on CGI vs Live Actors.
0mega
Why not, I like having my cake and eating it too.:D
Don't we all my friend, don't we all.
0mega
I think for Gears to work as a live action film, it would have to be done with the same grit and drama as, say... Saving Private Ryan or Flags of our Fathers. It can't be the run of the mill action shoot 'em up.
You know, I never thought of it that way but, I think the film makers main view on those films were so they would look older. I know what your saying and I do like the gritty look of those movies. I think thats a good idea.
0mega
Yeahhhh no. I hope its real actors. Not any meathead wrestlers but real actors and not animated. I just want this to break the "video game movies suck mold".
Totally agree with you on that last part, I would love to see that mold broken. I also would not want to see a animated movie either but, rather CGI.;)
0mega
Dark Infinity 1
08-25-2008, 05:58 PM
Do you think the movie would have made that much if say, Drew Barrymore played the role?
Drew Barrymore... NO
Keira Knightley, Milla Jovavich, or Natalie Portman... probably so there are other options there.
I just didn't want it to turn into another "wreslters would rule GoW movie"
Out of all the wrestlers that have been in movies the only one that can act is Andre the Giant. (Although that may have be type casting at it's finest) John Cena wasn't bad, but still not great actor quality. Wrestlers have not been known for 'good' acting. That being said I don't think this thread will come to that.
I think for Gears to work as a live action film, it would have to be done with the same grit and drama as, say... Saving Private Ryan or Flags of our Fathers. It can't be the run of the mill action shoot 'em up.
You know, I never thought of it that way but, I think the film makers main view on those films were so they would look older. I know what your saying and I do like the gritty look of those movies. I think thats a good idea.
Agreed
Taffer
08-25-2008, 07:23 PM
lol, let me guess why? Because every live action video game movie has sucked?
That's not really fair.
EVERY video game movie has sucked. Not just the live action ones.
Omega360x
08-26-2008, 07:24 AM
That's not really fair.
EVERY video game movie has sucked. Not just the live action ones.
Like I said previously in one of my posts, not one video game movie (CGI or LIVE) has made more than $200mil and I'm not talking all 3 Resident Evil's or Both Tomb Raiders combined. I'm talking each movie individually.
Yes your right, EVERY video game movie has sucked.....except Tron.
Dark Infinity 1
08-26-2008, 10:58 AM
Like I said previously in one of my posts, not one video game movie (CGI or LIVE) has made more than $200mil and I'm not talking all 3 Resident Evil's or Both Tomb Raiders combined. I'm talking each movie individually.
Yes your right, EVERY video game movie has sucked.....except Tron.
Check your figures The first Tomb Raider movie by itself grossed aprox $274,644,183 in theaters. If you add in the dvd,vhs... sales it's over $300 mil.
MrWaffles
08-26-2008, 01:21 PM
Final Fantasy Spirits Within was an amazing movie. If its at all like that i will be prefectly happy. And that was made in 1999 rofl.
Dark Infinity 1
08-26-2008, 01:28 PM
Final Fantasy Spirits Within was an amazing movie. If its at all like that i will be prefectly happy. And that was made in 1999 rofl.
That was good for 1999, if it's not better now we have a problem.
MrWaffles
08-26-2008, 01:39 PM
It was bloody amazing for 1999.
Oh, an example of cg would be that halo trailer with the two odst guys. They werent real.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1771870464/tt0173840
4 carmines and gnashers anyone?
Prod1gyXFXA
08-26-2008, 06:51 PM
its gonna be Live Actors..
Dark Infinity 1
08-26-2008, 06:58 PM
its gonna be Live Actors..
Yes it is.
Omega360x
08-27-2008, 09:49 AM
Check your figures The first Tomb Raider movie by itself grossed aprox $274,644,183 in theaters. If you add in the dvd,vhs... sales it's over $300 mil.
...I stand corrected.
PS: It still sucked ;)
its gonna be Live Actors..
We know, but do we like it? NO! :)
Dark Infinity 1
08-27-2008, 11:22 AM
PS: It still sucked ;)
Some of us liked it. Regardless of the fact that AJ was in it. Personally I liked the Resident Evil movies better. I for one am looking forward to the live action movie.:cool:
Omega360x
08-29-2008, 08:42 AM
Some of us liked it. Regardless of the fact that AJ was in it. Personally I liked the Resident Evil movies better. I for one am looking forward to the live action movie.:cool:
Agreed, the Resident Evil movie was better than either Tomb Raiders.
xXxGeArSxFrEaKxXx
08-29-2008, 10:47 AM
Real People would be so much better!
12 E A IP E R
08-29-2008, 01:12 PM
CG would be awsome... I mean, look at the film Beowulf... CG was brilliant in that movie and Gears of War could do the voice overs and use the voices of the actual people from the game... Also, the detail in all the characters could be more precise than having to use real people...
Stuff Halo movie, I don't want it, I have Gears of War :)
Dark Infinity 1
08-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Did I miss something here I thought Beowulf had real people with some CGI in it. (Which is what I am voting for) No CGI at all could be done but it would not be as effective I don't think. But it must be done tactfully and tastefully.:cool:
Omega360x
09-01-2008, 08:47 AM
Did I miss something here I thought Beowulf had real people with some CGI in it. (Which is what I am voting for) No CGI at all could be done but it would not be as effective I don't think. But it must be done tactfully and tastefully.:cool:
Beowulf was all CGI.
x BiG n TaSTEy8
09-02-2008, 10:15 PM
imo Gears of War would be better in CGI only if the cast would perfectly fit well not perfect but really good to do the movie w/o CGI.
Dark Infinity 1
09-03-2008, 03:14 PM
Beowulf was all CGI.
I never watched it. Can't you tell. Well if it was as good as the previews for it that might not be so bad.
Omega360x
09-04-2008, 01:00 PM
I never watched it. Can't you tell. Well if it was as good as the previews for it that might not be so bad.
Well heres to hoping they change their minds and make it CGI or atleast make Gears2 the movie CGI.
Bizkitdoh
09-06-2008, 11:33 PM
they should make a movie with the game engine lol. like a really long cinematic. that would be pretty awesome.
Omega360x
09-17-2008, 10:05 AM
they should make a movie with the game engine lol. like a really long cinematic. that would be pretty awesome.
That would be a great idea for a Comedy type series, great idea!:cool:
DELTA TWO-SIX
09-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Before i start, i want to say, this is a very good poll topic. It would be perfect in cgi!If it was a real film, than it wouldn't look like Marcus. It would be so much better as cgi with John Dimaggios voice, he also does the voices for Franklin(the Stranded guy), Bender from futurama, and The Brute Cheiftans in Halo3.
Omega360x
09-19-2008, 08:03 AM
Before i start, i want to say, this is a very good poll topic. It would be perfect in cgi!If it was a real film, than it wouldn't look like Marcus. It would be so much better as cgi with John Dimaggios voice, he also does the voices for Franklin(the Stranded guy), Bender from futurama, and The Brute Cheiftans in Halo3.
I think EPIC should have taken a poll on this before they decided to make a real live action movie. I'm begining to think theres more CGI lovers than real live people lovers. I think it's almost safe to say CGI would be a better option imho. ;)
EHogarty
09-19-2008, 12:00 PM
def real.. i know its a little late in the thread lol.. but i just registered...
look at juggernaut in X-Men, or the Spartans in 300.. theres no problem making real people look jacked up like the cogs...
Can i be casted for beird please...lol
EHogarty
09-19-2008, 12:04 PM
u could look at beast in x-men also, if they can make frasier crane look like a steroid infused werewolf...lol.. im sure theyll have no problem putting together the cogs and locust... and theres nothing stopping them from still using cgi in the movie... for bigger creatures
and beowulf wasnt exactly a box office smash, in my opinion it looked kinda cheesie... the only thing they really changed about the characters was beowulf himself being jacked up.... the actor himself is not even close to that shape, its the same guy who was "frenchy" in the departed.
Just imagine: The types of customes they used to make the Xmen characters so jacked up, with the realistic warfair look of saving private ryan or the new rambo... thats the way GOW should look, i dont want to see cgi blood and guts flying off the lancer... i want chunks of meat and corn syrup!
and why are u all talking about the "gross" of the movie... you arent producing it... lol... its all about the quality
UNR3ALgear
09-20-2008, 03:27 PM
it should have live people but with CGI like beowolf or 300
Brutal Executor
09-21-2008, 10:24 PM
You can bet your sweetums there will be CGI in the movie, just not the entire movie. And preferably it will have actual humans playing the human characters at least.
Unless you didnt know, everything that is too expensive or just downright impossible to replicate well enough in the real world will be made with computer generated imagery. Though other times, its just used for pretty much every effect/monster/creature/background/you name it, because its so much easier to do on a computer than in the real world.
Omega360x
09-22-2008, 10:32 AM
u could look at beast in x-men also, if they can make frasier crane look like a steroid infused werewolf...lol.. im sure theyll have no problem putting together the cogs and locust... and theres nothing stopping them from still using cgi in the movie... for bigger creatures
and beowulf wasnt exactly a box office smash, in my opinion it looked kinda cheesie... the only thing they really changed about the characters was beowulf himself being jacked up.... the actor himself is not even close to that shape, its the same guy who was "frenchy" in the departed.
Just imagine: The types of customes they used to make the Xmen characters so jacked up, with the realistic warfair look of saving private ryan or the new rambo... thats the way GOW should look, i dont want to see cgi blood and guts flying off the lancer... i want chunks of meat and corn syrup!
and why are u all talking about the "gross" of the movie... you arent producing it... lol... its all about the quality
True, but I think the Locust are gonna be more difficult to replicate into the real world mainly because theres more detail invovled. Sure the body suits will be easy but it's the face make-up thats gonna be really tough I think.
In X-Men, face paint wasn't difficult at all. The most difficult (mainly because its time consuming) was Rebecca Romijn costume. Other than that there wasn't any difficult ones.
You can bet your sweetums there will be CGI in the movie, just not the entire movie. And preferably it will have actual humans playing the human characters at least.
Unless you didnt know, everything that is too expensive or just downright impossible to replicate well enough in the real world will be made with computer generated imagery. Though other times, its just used for pretty much every effect/monster/creature/background/you name it, because its so much easier to do on a computer than in the real world.
Theres no doubt your right, just about every newer movie to date has some sort of CGI in it. I agree with you on this. It does spice up some real live movies when they use CGI, it's like adding the cherry on top.
HonorGuard
09-23-2008, 07:47 PM
make it as realistic as the CGI monday night football commercial for halo 3 now that was badass or the hellgate london cinematics trailers now those were pure awesome... to bad the game sucked ... hellgate I mean.
Omega360x
10-01-2008, 07:42 AM
make it as realistic as the CGI monday night football commercial for halo 3 now that was badass or the hellgate london cinematics trailers now those were pure awesome... to bad the game sucked ... hellgate I mean.
I think I missed that H3 commercial. What Monday Night was it? Do you know if the video is on the internet yet?
Omega360x
12-30-2008, 10:56 AM
I am determined to get everyone to like CG > Real People ;)
Tuscuttar
12-31-2008, 05:13 PM
Pfft, Beowulf was a mistake. Everyone knows it would have better if it was real time-real people, they failed the CG anyway, the graphics were terrible, Shrek animation was better than Beowulf's, when you look at the actor's (animation's) eyes, they seem lifeless, all most as if nothing is there. The water graphics left pretty much, everything to be desired. Who cares if Ray Winston was the right actor for Beowulf and he wasnt in shape enough to be 'real', if they cant do it perfect the first time, they shouldn't bother, and if the Gears of War movie is going to be CG, then i'm gonna be reluctant to see it (as much of a hardcore gears fan i am) because i know they will fail, it wont look like real-life, and if it cant look like real-life, then they shouldn't bother (as i said earlier). And Omega360x, nohing personnal but you are an idiot. CG now is crap, and it always will be until we manage to create real-life moving images that 100% re-create reality(which in-short means, real life acting.) Maybe the locust actors could wear motion-capture suits and then do the effect in the production stages, but all-in-all, it should be real-life, CG is extremely cheap, and it ends up looking extremely cheap (like Beowulf, oh and lets thank Beowulf for being such a brilliant example of a 'CG failure'!) I would rather have real-life actors that dont look like the characters, than have CG, but it isnt up to us for they are gonna do, is it?
RazielPC
01-07-2009, 08:47 PM
though I would rather a CG Movie, you are wrong about the realism and going over the top thing..Look at the new Rambo, the last couple of scenes were more Gory and gut wrenching then anything I have ever seen... when the white guy snipes all those guys in the head,Looks just like Gears... But IMO CG is the way to go..I love the characters we have now,and the way they look is just sooo Cool, a Live action movie of Gears might turn out to be Doom or Resident Evil 1, eff-that.. and that way we can keep the same looking Locust and same voices and everything,just with way way way more Detail...
I can't see Gears of war live action ever being gory like Rambo
RazielPC
01-07-2009, 08:49 PM
Oh and CGI all the way!
After seeing the new Resident Evil movie, CGI would be awesome
Omega360x
01-08-2009, 07:54 AM
Pfft, Beowulf was a mistake. Everyone knows it would have better if it was real time-real people, they failed the CG anyway, the graphics were terrible, Shrek animation was better than Beowulf's, when you look at the actor's (animation's) eyes, they seem lifeless, all most as if nothing is there. The water graphics left pretty much, everything to be desired. Who cares if Ray Winston was the right actor for Beowulf and he wasnt in shape enough to be 'real', if they cant do it perfect the first time, they shouldn't bother, and if the Gears of War movie is going to be CG, then i'm gonna be reluctant to see it (as much of a hardcore gears fan i am) because i know they will fail, it wont look like real-life, and if it cant look like real-life, then they shouldn't bother (as i said earlier). And Omega360x, nohing personnal but you are an idiot. CG now is crap, and it always will be until we manage to create real-life moving images that 100% re-create reality(which in-short means, real life acting.) Maybe the locust actors could wear motion-capture suits and then do the effect in the production stages, but all-in-all, it should be real-life, CG is extremely cheap, and it ends up looking extremely cheap (like Beowulf, oh and lets thank Beowulf for being such a brilliant example of a 'CG failure'!) I would rather have real-life actors that dont look like the characters, than have CG, but it isnt up to us for they are gonna do, is it?
To call someone an idiot because they have an opinion, shows just how brilliant you are...
Everyone else in this thread gave great opinions and constructive thoughts, if you can't post without insult then don't post at all.
Don't post in this thread anymore.
pandarokstar
01-08-2009, 10:40 AM
cgi all the way...less let down from sh!tty actors who will most likely over do it...plus i prefer hearing the actual voice-overs from the game...i mean wouldn't it be a lot easier for epic...they already have the models for everything, they could just make what they have better...it would kick so much a$$ if they make it using cgi...and hopefully they use the same music from the game...
demonchad
01-08-2009, 03:37 PM
I'd rarther have it in CGI because
there arent that many people in the world that looks like Marcus Fenix or Cole or Dom or Baird or Hoffman
As for the locust pfffft
CGI rocks just look at Final Fantasy : Spirits Within
and that was in 2001
Omega360x
01-12-2009, 08:27 AM
I'd rarther have it in CGI because
there arent that many people in the world that looks like Marcus Fenix or Cole or Dom or Baird or Hoffman
As for the locust pfffft
CGI rocks just look at Final Fantasy : Spirits Within
and that was in 2001
Another great point I never thought of. I swear if I see Batista as Marcus or any wrestler in the new Gears movie I'm not watching it. I will rent it.
pandarokstar
01-12-2009, 01:04 PM
Another great point I never thought of. I swear if I see Batista as Marcus or any wrestler in the new Gears movie I'm not watching it. I will rent it.
i will rent it, burn it, and THEN watch it later...:D
Spektral
01-14-2009, 10:34 PM
I want to see it made a la 300 but in real places. No indoor bull****.
M4RCU5
01-14-2009, 10:42 PM
No thanks, I prefer real people.
Acolyte
01-15-2009, 10:45 AM
alho those big guys froim warrior king, with some acting skills could pull off the cog
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QAl3DBLoM WATCH FROM 4:12
Ghostofdelta2
01-18-2009, 06:10 AM
CGI, unless Scarlett Johansson plays Anya.
Cruel_Knight
01-19-2009, 03:37 PM
I wanna see actors.... there's been too many disapointments with CGI. If they can pull off Beowulf... well then ok I'm in.
Kennex
01-19-2009, 07:38 PM
BTW: Glen Jacobs for Raam!
Glen Jacobs as Raam!
AGREE!
Ian Compton
01-20-2009, 12:21 AM
Ever seen Final Fantasy: Spirits Within? Then you will know why I want GOW CGI.
Omega360x
01-23-2009, 12:18 PM
CGI > Real People ;)
junk3r
01-23-2009, 12:44 PM
Yeah, I definitely thing if they were going to make a movie out of this game they should choose to use CGI. That **** looks so cool. One of the best examples up there is Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Despite the movie, that game is one of the best games ever created. Period. IMO
panzer3000
01-23-2009, 04:18 PM
CGI is only good for the gears fans and the gaming fans, plus is not good from a marketing point of veiw i think, ok it will be cheaper, but you wont get people intrested, if it was real actors it will get sci-fi fan their, plus maybe war film lovers as well. And then those who love films where humans are fighting for surivel. As you can see if the film use real ife actors they will get more people intrested therefore more people would go to the cinemas and therfore more people buy dvds. And if you lucky you get people wanted to buy the game
o0o luke o0o
01-24-2009, 04:55 PM
BUMPEDY BOO :)
I would LOVE to see the movie in CGI, that way i don't get some wrestler who cannot act playing as Marcus
Omega360x
01-26-2009, 07:26 AM
CGI is only good for the gears fans and the gaming fans, plus is not good from a marketing point of view i think, OK it will be cheaper, but you wont get people interested, if it was real actors it will get sci-fi fan their, plus maybe war film lovers as well. And then those who love films where humans are fighting for survival. As you can see if the film use real life actors they will get more people interested therefore more people would go to the cinemas and therefore more people buy dvds. And if you lucky you get people wanted to buy the game
Some very good points Panzer. I guess it would all depend on the audience EPIC is trying to attract. Are they trying to get a whole new fan base (Sci-Fi and Warmongers)? or are they just trying to please us, the Game Fans? We could argue that CGI can make millions, just look at Beowolf, the Toy Story's and all the other CGI kid movies that have sold millions. OK bad example, War movie with death and blood being compared to talking toy's, I know but you get the point, they're CGI. ;)
BUMPEDY BOO :)
I would LOVE to see the movie in CGI, that way i don't get some wrestler who cannot act playing as Marcus
I'm with you luke! Please no wrestlers. :D
Dom17
01-26-2009, 11:11 AM
I wanna see real people, will be funny
RaT412
01-26-2009, 12:23 PM
TMNT and Beowulf were CGI, right?
If it's live action, soft people would flip. All the chainsawing, the curbstomps, the explosions ... basically all the gore. And if that had to be dumbed down just to please the non-gaming public, well screw that.
I say CGI.
xFallenAng3l
01-26-2009, 01:36 PM
CG!! FTW lol :D
gokuson
01-26-2009, 03:02 PM
Yes c.g because you can do so much more with c.g!!!!!
HGS9669
01-26-2009, 10:50 PM
CGI, because if it was live-action people would start complaining about the casting. Someone always does.
Omega360x
01-27-2009, 07:46 AM
That is what I'm afraid of, poor acting, not enough action, not enough gore, no gritty dark looking feel about the film if it is real people. I think the movie has to feel like the game in order to deliver the Gears of War environment. In CGI you almost can't go wrong, especially with the same voice overs as in the game.
DrPie phd
01-27-2009, 08:34 PM
CG would ruin this movie...
It must be real people.
If i wanna look at CG Gears of War, ill play the game.
BTW: Glen Jacobs for Raam!
THAT WOULD BE PERFECT!!! O_o (the Glen Jacobs part :D)
The Lone Gear
01-28-2009, 01:16 AM
I would like to see the movie done in CG. I don't want to see some dumba$$ wrestler in the movie because he happens to be a big dude. Live action movies are very limited. With CG, you can do almost anything. Whatever Epic decides to do with the movie is totally up to them. I just hope that none of those guys are Uwe Boll fans.
Fo Schizle
01-28-2009, 06:35 PM
Nah. I thought Beowulf was incredibly cheesy... Gears of War doesn't deserve to be cheesy. Special effects are incredible nowadays, they could easily pull it off with real people and it would be a lot more convincing.
Cog Edward
01-29-2009, 12:23 PM
CG would ruin this movie...
It must be real people.
If i wanna look at CG Gears of War, ill play the game.
BTW: Glen Jacobs for Raam!
Yeah CGI would be a huge down fall.Real people are better.:D
And yes.Defenetly.Glen Jacobs as RAAM.
UhOh ICU
01-29-2009, 02:44 PM
I'm really sick of the recent CGI films. Degeneration was a joke and the only good CGI film I've ever seen is Advent Children. (Yes, I also hated Beowulf.) Seeing real people in a movie makes it seem real. If you know that it's all computer generated, it takes away the feeling that you're watching real people act and move. When you watch movies with real people in it, you know that someone actually did that and acted it out. CGI is just voices and animation. I wouldn't mind to much if it was CGI, but I'd prefer real actors. But that's just my opinion. :D
blue fortress
01-30-2009, 09:44 AM
I think CGI would be the best simply because some lame actor trying to make the character his/her own couldn't srcew it up. I don't know about you guys but I don't want to see some sorry ass director taking creative liberty with the film either and deciding to make Fenix some teary eyed momma's boy.
Negar Steilakar
01-31-2009, 12:16 AM
how ever they do it im just glad Uwe Boll isnt there to F*ck it up
NoEviL
02-01-2009, 02:58 PM
i think this could be a good idea if they do this because they could get the real voices and get them to look exactly, but it hink if they get the lighting and the amotosphere in real life would make it look better. and if you see the technology of cgi intergrated with film now you could make anybody look like anything!
shandyburn
02-01-2009, 03:26 PM
if anyone has seen 300, the film should be made like that. half CGI half real.
Deicide73
02-01-2009, 03:42 PM
I voted for real people. It would bring more realism to the story. Not sure who they would get to play Delta squad but they could get the people who made the costume for the Orks in The Lord Of The Rings for the Locust costumes.
Marcia
02-03-2009, 12:34 PM
I'd like to see both so that i can compare and pick a favourite. Although if i did have to pick one, it would probably be CGI.
Fo Schizle
02-03-2009, 02:55 PM
if anyone has seen 300, the film should be made like that. half CGI half real.
Exactly. That would be beast.
Having it fully in CGI is lame, it looks worse than the video-game graphics.
Omega360x
02-04-2009, 08:41 AM
Exactly. That would be beast.
Having it fully in CGI is lame, it looks worse than the video-game graphics.
How do you know it would look worst than the game?
Omega360x
02-09-2009, 10:58 AM
if anyone has seen 300, the film should be made like that. half CGI half real.
I guess if they are going to use real people, better to have the best of both worlds. :rolleyes:
Avian005
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
I don't really care. If they make the CGI look the best to date, then I guess so.
EX0T1C
02-09-2009, 05:00 PM
I hope it's CGI. I don't want such a great series ending up like other video game movies. I want it in CGI but make it look real. Honestly who's gonna play who? your gonna get the same feel as you do in the game and absolutely noone looks like Marcus.
Omega360x
02-10-2009, 10:42 AM
I'm with you EXOT1C.
Omega360x
02-10-2009, 11:10 AM
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Check out this picture, just shows how good Carmine would look in CGI. Actually, that is CGI like 9 years ago, just imagine how good it would look now.
M.Carmine
02-11-2009, 09:10 PM
hmm it depends while people like a&b carmine could easily be using real actors i dont think i could get used to new actors for marcus, dom, cole, and baird. and of course the locust will all be CGI anyways that part will be easy.
pobstillremains
02-12-2009, 05:10 PM
I dont want it to be in CG at aLl, i have the actual game for that. I i would love to see what actors they pick for the characters.
Omega360x
02-13-2009, 07:44 AM
I dont want it to be in CG at aLl, i have the actual game for that. I i would love to see what actors they pick for the characters.
That's what we are all afraid of, EPIC picking Wrestlers or some scrub's on a corner. You gotta admit the movie is going to feel different without the original voice overs.
captianCoolness
02-14-2009, 02:05 PM
I think real actors will only be good if they put some serious thought and money into it with good effects/props and good the right people to play the parts, but if they took alot of time on the improvemnet of the CG like Final Fantasyish kinda thing I think it would still be really good. I would go and see either.
SIR BIGGLES 520
02-14-2009, 06:22 PM
though I would rather a CG Movie, you are wrong about the realism and going over the top thing..Look at the new Rambo, the last couple of scenes were more Gory and gut wrenching then anything I have ever seen... when the white guy snipes all those guys in the head,Looks just like Gears... But IMO CG is the way to go..I love the characters we have now,and the way they look is just sooo Cool, a Live action movie of Gears might turn out to be Doom or Resident Evil 1, eff-that.. and that way we can keep the same looking Locust and same voices and everything,just with way way way more Detail...
Well actually in Rambo that is exactly what happends to people who get the wrong side of .50 cal weapons so it is realistic and they made the exception of going over the top in the process.
I vote CGI too because they should be able to pull off much better visuals with it and also being able to use the same voice actors for Marcus and Dom(prequel right?).
gearseffect
02-16-2009, 01:19 AM
I don't care if the movie is CG or not as long as it is realy good. It must not let us Gearheads down. It has to be the best video game movie. As long as that happens I don't care.
Omega360x
02-16-2009, 07:24 AM
I think real actors will only be good if they put some serious thought and money into it with good effects/props and good the right people to play the parts, but if they took a lot of time on the improvement of the CG like Final Fantasyish kinda thing I think it would still be really good. I would go and see either.
I agree, hell even if it's half CGI and half real people I don't think that would be that bad. I'm with you I'll watch either just prefer CGI :D
ElephantD
02-17-2009, 01:15 AM
Theres alot of ups and downs to both real actors and CGI. Personally for the first movie i would want real actors. I think the movie would sell more if there were actors, expesically if they had some grade A actors.
llama
02-17-2009, 05:17 PM
I don't care either way. I just really hope they make the Locust with costumes and prosthetics if it's live action. It will look like crap if they have a live action movie with cgi Locusts.
Exhibit A: I Am Legend - the vampires in that flick looked cgi... I couldn't get fully into it because they didn't look real.
Exhibit B: HP and the Order of the Phoenix - Grawmp (Hagrid's brother) looked like cgi from 10 years ago. Jurassic Park looked more convincing than that. It still does!
The locust horde would have to be prosthetics, like the orcs from LOTR... Unless they actually get Weta Digital on board. But they should be just like the orcs, people in costume.
Omega360x
02-24-2009, 08:03 AM
hmm it depends while people like a&b carmine could easily be using real actors i dont think i could get used to new actors for marcus, dom, cole, and baird. and of course the locust will all be CGI anyways that part will be easy.
That is what I'm afraid of, not liking the actors who play Delta Squad. :(
I think real actors will only be good if they put some serious thought and money into it with good effects/props and good the right people to play the parts, but if they took alot of time on the improvemnet of the CG like Final Fantasyish kinda thing I think it would still be really good. I would go and see either.
I hope you are right. I'm sure with enough money they can do a decent job with real actors.
I don't care if the movie is CG or not as long as it is realy good. It must not let us Gearheads down. It has to be the best video game movie. As long as that happens I don't care.
I could live with that. :)
Big D
03-05-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm not a big fan of CGI but I think the only way Gears would feel right is in CGI. Same voice overs would be huge.
Braccini
03-05-2009, 07:25 PM
I what to see real people! hehe ^^
LeftEarOfGod
03-08-2009, 06:50 PM
If you guys havent noticed. Real people dont really look like the Gears in Sera. I think CGI would be the best way to go. I just hope to god when they make a live-action movie they dont get huge guys with no acting skills just cause there huge, or big time movie stars. Either way, it has to have a good story.
Braccini
03-14-2009, 02:09 PM
I heard that the first film will be what happened before the first game.
Wisdom Thumbs
03-14-2009, 02:27 PM
If it's good people will love it.
If it's just more of the same but with Gears, we will KAYL AVERYBODY.
Phoenix_Taylor
03-14-2009, 08:22 PM
As close to LOTR as possible. Peter Jackson used the perfect mix of the both.
Locustkiller
04-05-2009, 07:53 AM
they will have real actors but the locust will be cgi:mad:
anyway i hope the combat scenes will be like full metal jackets combat scenes because that film is intense:)
M4RCU5
04-05-2009, 12:31 PM
As close to LOTR as possible. Peter Jackson used the perfect mix of the both.
Amen.
10 char.......
Espenx1
04-12-2009, 03:05 PM
I want the movie CG since the games are CG that will look more ''real'' for the gamers
CG will own the movie:D
Real? Nah it will suck:eek:
Actually, I think that would be sick! There's just so much more they can do with CGI movies, it's more versatile and probably cheaper than trying to make a real movie with real people. They could use the actual voice-overs and character models (just enhance the looks with up-to-date CGI). To be honest it would probably be the best game-to-movie to date.
Here is an example of some CGI movies, in-case some people don't know what it is.
Resident Evil: Degeneration http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1174954/
Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/title/ /news#ni0648853
Beowulf - Awards: 12 Nominations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0442933/
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Awards: 5 Nominations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0173840/
Carmine look-a-like? 16 17
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/
Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/news#ni0664965
Edit:I'm wrong, It's not called Cinema Graphics, it's called CGI, "Computer Generated Imagery". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-generated_imagery
Thank you, finally. I feel that same way. If you want to see real people, go outside, or watch the Grains of War commercial. But i'm joking, either way I dont care.
I just don't want them to make it live action, and it suck, and completely destroy the whole thing for me, I don't want to take that risk. And CGI ensures that they will be able to do whatever they want, how they want, and keep a very strong sense of realism
Super Epic
04-14-2009, 09:51 AM
I think real people would be much better. That way they'll have props from the film that real people can have. I just like actors more for some reason.
Dietrevers
04-14-2009, 02:48 PM
with real actors, the movie will look gross, how are the locusts gonna appear... Real actors vs. CGI... No Way! CGI all movie, with unreal engine, to make it look more gears of war.
PS: Omega got banned xD
WanTeD_o9
04-14-2009, 02:55 PM
if you CG it it would have the real voice overs too ;)
WTF Mate
04-25-2009, 04:32 PM
i thin that they should use cg for the movie because its going to be hard for them to find a marcus look a like. see the original characters in the cg movie would be perfect.
evikone
04-29-2009, 09:36 AM
Yes. Honestly, I would prefer this over a movie with real people because there is more that can be done. I love Gears because (to me) its quite a believable world. Movies tend to take away from that realism because usually movie makers use puppets and other things that you can tell is fake. Though, I must admit, the monsters in the movie Doom and Silent Hill were done very, very well and believable. But, I just feel that CGI doesn't limit to the creativity. The only negativity I can state regarding CGI films is the all so talked about "Uncanny Valley" issue. But, so far I've seen CGI movies that don't have that problem such as Beowulf, even though some critics said it was "near" the Uncanny Valley.
N0mad
05-04-2009, 12:22 PM
If the movie is going to be CGI, which I hope will happen, I will freaking sh*t bricks. They can make it as realistic as possible and we'd all be seeing all our beloved characters and their voice overs. Beowulf was a very good CGI movie indeed, I couldn't even believe my eyes that Angelina Jolie wasn't real lawl.
I don't even know how they would shoot a chainsaw scene if it weren't CGI. Would there even be a chainsaw scene? I don't want a chainsaw scene where all you see are shadows in the wall of a dark alley or something, I want to see a scene which is just like doing it in the game. It would totally piss me off if it wouldn't because they want to appeal to the more younger audiences as well, bullsh*t. Screw that, it's Gears of War not Gears of Pillowfight. Doesn't matter if your below 18 and it's rated 18+, buy a DVD copy. I played violent games and watched slasher gorefest movies since I was 12, you don't see me in the news headlining "Kid stabs parents."
I voted Yes :3
Carpathian
05-05-2009, 10:51 PM
It should be CG for two reasons: They can do more stuff without it looking cheesy, and two: they could use the voices from the game.
zombiejezu5
05-05-2009, 11:41 PM
ok n e 1 who want gow filmed with actors on a live set is a moron!!! Live action game to film, films SUX!!!!
if u ask me the ONLY way to do it justice wud be to do it CG.
some ideas for the film
1] a gd chainsaw scene
2] sum gd headshots
3] a gd carmine death scene
4] sum roady running scenes
5] a nice double kill with the talkbow
6] hammer of dawn destroying a hole mass of locust
7] a frag tag
8]a two peice :-}
9] jack fighting a wretch
10] naked Anya
Emperor Onslaught
05-06-2009, 04:40 AM
live-action would ruin it. There aren't many guys, let alone actors, in the world that are both super muscley as well as somewhat squatty-looking like the cogs. The whole elephant-leg thing... yeah... I mean, unless they're gonna get the guys from 300 and just put them in armor... lol
They should CG it.
i agree with him 500% this kinda movie especially the Gears franchise should be done in CGI, it would suck otherwise IMO and besides, with the reaction from the public to Gears2, and all the complaints and how its XBL gameplay was a huge let down, the last thing EPIC needs is another screw up! they shouldnt do any live action... just my $.02
Emperor Onslaught
05-06-2009, 04:43 AM
ok n e 1 who want gow filmed with actors on a live set is a moron!!! Live action game to film, films SUX!!!!
if u ask me the ONLY way to do it justice wud be to do it CG.
some ideas for the film
1] a gd chainsaw scene
2] sum gd headshots
3] a gd carmine death scene
4] sum roady running scenes
5] a nice double kill with the talkbow
6] hammer of dawn destroying a hole mass of locust
7] a frag tag
8]a two peice :-}
9] jack fighting a wretch
10] naked Anya
i like his ideas too, notably #s 8, 9, and 10, however even though it happens i wouldnt want to see poor carmine die on the big screen.:(
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