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One Obstacle
03-19-2008, 02:34 PM
Well, we all know that with less than 6 players in a Ranked match, your kills don't count anymore. Well, I think this is only in unfair advantages, such as 4 or 3 on 1's. Why do I think this? Recently I have been keeping tab of my kills. Ended up in a match where everybody quit, leaving it 2 on 2. I ended up with 11 kills, and added that to my total. Then I went to check the leaderboards. my totals matched up!!!
(I just thought of this... Just b/c your kills are on the leaderboards, does that mean they count?)

ARman
03-19-2008, 04:55 PM
its a confusing situation as i should have my seriously and im pushin 12,000 :(
i just wish epic would tell somebody the EXACT reason and make it confusing and stuff.

Crusader1099
03-19-2008, 06:07 PM
So...they fixed it?

One Obstacle
03-19-2008, 06:26 PM
Not for sure, but has anybody ACTUALLY proved that less than 6 players automatically cancels any kills that you have gathered.

LordofDoom5432
03-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Well, we all know that with less than 6 players in a Ranked match, your kills don't count anymore

No, anyone with a brain knows that this is not true.

This is how it works:


It's not straightforward and I've posted the explanation in the past. It's based upon a hidden number that each player has. This number is based off of the number of times you've left a match early, fully completed, etc. It then takes the scores posted by each player and decides who with the highest ratings agree. So if you leave early, you will post incorrect scores compared to those that finish the match. Therefore, the ones that complete are believed over yours. However, if someone who has a really high rating leaves while everyone else has a lower aggregate rating, the score will not post because the "believable" person trumps the non-trustworthy ones. This is built into Live and is not controlled by us.

Basically, it tracks people that cheat via turning off/disconnecting and marks them as untrustworthy, so their votes don't count. For the scores to count, there has to be a majority of trusted players reporting identical stores. So if nothing but untrustworthy people report and the highest trusted player drops, the untrusted ones are out voted.

And I believe the trust rating is determined across all games, so you should never drop from any ranked match if you can help it.

In short, there is one player in the room who is deemed the "most trustworthy". Once the game ends for that player, the stats that everyone accumulated will count as that player saw it. if the "most trustworthy player" drops in the second round, only the stats accumulated up to that point will count towards achievements. Anything after in that game will not count.

In my personal opinion, anyone that believes "Once it drops past 6 people nothing counts" is a gullible moron. Sorry if that applies to anyone here, but there is absolutely no reason to ever believe something like that.

j0hn0wnz
03-19-2008, 06:47 PM
Doom is right. so don't fxking quit!

I eat Babies
03-19-2008, 07:22 PM
u spelled rumor wrong.

Gears-of-War
03-20-2008, 03:16 AM
No, anyone with a brain knows that this is not true.

This is how it works:



In short, there is one player in the room who is deemed the "most trustworthy". Once the game ends for that player, the stats that everyone accumulated will count as that player saw it. if the "most trustworthy player" drops in the second round, only the stats accumulated up to that point will count towards achievements. Anything after in that game will not count.

In my personal opinion, anyone that believes "Once it drops past 6 people nothing counts" is a gullible moron. Sorry if that applies to anyone here, but there is absolutely no reason to ever believe something like that.

There's always little theories going on around Gears of War ranked matches about the leaderboards. No the leaderboards arent fixed and they wont be fixed Epic is working on GoW 2 now.

USRangerJohn
03-20-2008, 04:23 PM
Lord I hope EPIC will post that again and sticky it. Then all those Seriously complaints would end. Note that this means that people who dont quit, have good reps or anything else could be the most trusted and so they should not quit. If they do well then that sucks. Im sad that that means it affects honest and good people but Im glad that means rude, cheaters, or other deemed low in regard are punished. I just wish it made it more full proof an award the good only and punish the bad.