Freezes are getting worse

[XP43]

The game is becoming more and more unplayable at 1st i only had freezes on DM-Gateway, not i have it on every DM map even on RisingSun, it occures every few minutes and takes about 5 seconds the screen then goes totally paused but they game continues, after the freeze game continues like nothing happened, but most of the time you got killed ofcourse.

Anyone got a clue how to fix this? Because i think not everyone has it, i only hear a few players moaning about it on public.

[Clinton514]

PC? PS3? That info would help them to help you.

[XP43]

PC? PS3? That info would help them to help you.

PC ofcourse, its a known bug, but its getting worse for me.

[djricekcn]

It also freezes on PS3 so it helps for them

[Vzur]

I've had this problem since patching to 1.1 - guess all we can do is hope it's fixed next patch, but that probably won't be for a while :(

[AnubanUT2]

What video card and drivers are you using? There is a known issue on the PC with the 8800 GT and I would imagine the newer just released 8800 GTS 512 as well since they cannot make use of the 163.75 stable WHQL drivers. This is one of the issues from what I have been reading around here.

[Vzur]

8500GT, 169.21 drivers. Problem seems to have gotten somewhat better actually, since updating to these drivers, but also, I've got most of the sound turned off, which might be helping also.

[Rajinn]

169.21 seems to suck (might just be me?)
i use 169.13
check your temps, heat causes the stutter as well as some soundcards, what soundcard do you have? are you using hardware openal?
equally check your background apps that you have enough ram available.

did you turn on OneFrameThreadLag in utengine.ini?
hope this helps, if not please report back!

[XP43]

What video card and drivers are you using? There is a known issue on the PC with the 8800 GT and I would imagine the newer just released 8800 GTS 512 as well since they cannot make use of the 163.75 stable WHQL drivers. This is one of the issues from what I have been reading around here.

Yes i have 8800 GT videocard :mad: Don't know what drivers, where can i see it? I do have OneFrameThreadLag=True so thats not the problem.

[Rajinn]

nvidia control panel -> system information -> forceware version

odds are you are overheating - download rivatuner and set your fan to 100% (is it evga? if so goto evga downloads instead and download the new bios for the 8800GT)

[{DvT}JonahHex]

When you are having problems, knowing what your system specs are helps (including O/S).

To check your video driver version, open the nVidia Control Panel and click on System Information in the left side menu:

http://fos.dvts.org/nvcontrolpanel.jpg

[Rajinn]

is that section available without ntune?

[Respen]

Odds are that it is NOT overheating. Many of us have checked the temps and are recieving these symptoms at low temps. It's also not just the 8800GT's a good deal of us are getting the issue with the 8xxx line of cards (and even ati users). I myself have an 8800gtx and have had this issue since launch on vista.

There is a thread on the freezing in the tech issues forum with over 25k hits... might want to read up some there.

[Zenoxious]

For a start how about detailing the hardware of your PC.

Its ultra retarded to make such a post and then give no information about your kit.

[AnubanUT2]

Yes i have 8800 GT videocard :mad: Don't know what drivers, where can i see it? I do have OneFrameThreadLag=True so thats not the problem.

Well the issue is such that there is not much you can do about the issue atm. Nvidia is aware of the issue and working on a fix alongside Epic devs. Basically there is some issue with the drivers above 163.75 and so those of us with cards based on the newer G92 architecture are stuck for a moment. And it doesn't matter if you are on XP or Vista in this case. So basically just use the latest drivers ... 169.13 i.e.

[TDA NESS]

Unstable RAM can also cause crashing in games, which normally wouldn't happen under everyday internet browsing. Switch your timings and/or memory speed could work for some people with this problem.

[AnubanUT2]

For a start how about detailing the hardware of your PC.

Its ultra retarded to make such a post and then give no information about your kit.

Dude be cool. There is no need to be insulting to someone who is obviously a newbie when it comes to forums and such (or who was so frustrated that he simply forget to list his specs). He needs some help and is already frustrated. He needs you calling him retarded like he needs a hole in his head. I swear I don't know what is wrong with some of you people ... you act like you were never new at something and never made a mistake. All you had to say is please list your specs and that was it. Lets see how you like it the next you need assistance and you don't get it because people remembered how utterly rude you are. :mad:

[nthexwn]

Having this problem myself. It's even worse on servers that are running the CustomUT mutator, though that seems to have something to do with the way that it loads custom colors for models.

I run Rivatuner and keep the fans at 100%. Every time I crash I check my temperature logs for both the proc and video card and everything checks out. I'm not overclocking and I have the latest drivers. Please don't bother replying to problems you haven't experienced with generic tech support advice. The only thing that it helps is your post-count.

Specs:
Athlon 64 FX-60
Geforce 8800GTS 640MB
4GB DDR400
Windows Vista Ultimate x64

[Rajinn]

nthexwn - a few quick things
are you using matching ram? (alternating brands causes instability)
have you tried a different OS?? (i cant get past the menu screen in vista ultimate x64 atm... i click one and BAM crash)

i have diagnosed an evga 8800GT, 2 8800GTS (xfx and bfg), and i myself run 8800GTX, i've never had a stutter problem except for a powersupply problem which caused tearing followed by stuttering. that doesnt mean the psu was too little for the rig, it just somehow was incompatible with it (one was an 850w in a single 8800GT build which is way more than enough) which happened in 2 instances with 2 different rigs entirely.

if your temp isnt a problem, do your pci-e rails support enough amperage for the 8800GTS to suck up when it gets under load? if not it will cause a stutter at first, eventually underclocking and a nv4_disp bsod.

define latest: official or beta? (169.21 isnt very good)

why cant good tv be on at 5am? *sigh* wheres my DVDs?

how old is your ram? someone above mentioned ram being a problem. check it with memtest (google memtest.zip) you'll have to run multiple copies. if you doubt this is the problem (i do) then check your gfx for power drain, i dont know of any good programs that can do this, but i do know the crysis benchmark will work your card over.

xp43, its very hard to diagnose your problems without more info. its hard enough to diagnose it already, with the simple result of a thousand different problems.

[xentrumx]

I havent had a single problem with the beta or the full game. Its probably just ur pcs :P Maybe overheating?

[Apathy]

Could it be an over-heating issue? I've never had any freezing issues at all with my 8800GT. I had a 6600GT a bunch of years back.. That thing over heated like hell. Didn't seem to matter what game I played, I would get like 25 second complete freezes.

The 8800GT is a hot running card. If you don't have some decent ventilation and cooling in your tower, that could be very well be causing the problem. For a lot of people, this card idles at 70C and at full load it can get up to 90. I've also been told that is normal for this card, but it makes a lot of people uncomfortable... Def had me worried.

[Rajinn]

90c isnt good for anything, it raises your ambient which increases temps of every part in your rig, equally it increases your overall room temps over a short period of time and MY GOD thats hot! anything over 80c is too much, and im uncomfy with 75c

[nthexwn]

nthexwn - a few quick things
are you using matching ram? (alternating brands causes instability)

Yes


have you tried a different OS?? (i cant get past the menu screen in vista ultimate x64 atm... i click one and BAM crash)

No, this could be a Vista issue.


i have diagnosed an evga 8800GT, 2 8800GTS (xfx and bfg), and i myself run 8800GTX, i've never had a stutter problem except for a powersupply problem which caused tearing followed by stuttering. that doesnt mean the psu was too little for the rig, it just somehow was incompatible with it (one was an 850w in a single 8800GT build which is way more than enough) which happened in 2 instances with 2 different rigs entirely.

I have a SilverStone ST75ZF, which is a 750W PSU with 72 amps across quad 12v rails. The voltages are steady.


if your temp isnt a problem, do your pci-e rails support enough amperage for the 8800GTS to suck up when it gets under load? if not it will cause a stutter at first, eventually underclocking and a nv4_disp bsod.

I haven't tested the PCI-E rails with a voltmeter or anything but I also haven't experienced anything like this in other games while the comp was under load.


define latest: official or beta? (169.21 isnt very good)

163.75_forceware_winvista_64bit_english_whql. I don't do beta drivers.


how old is your ram? someone above mentioned ram being a problem. check it with memtest (google memtest.zip) you'll have to run multiple copies. if you doubt this is the problem (i do) then check your gfx for power drain, i dont know of any good programs that can do this, but i do know the crysis benchmark will work your card over.

I ordered my memory from Newegg less than a month ago. It checks out in Memtest86 as well as Orthos with timings of 2-3-2-5-2T @ 400mhz.


why cant good tv be on at 5am? *sigh* wheres my DVDs?

Screw TV, play UT!

[]NIN[]

A friend of mine was shouting & balling of the game pausing all the time the otherday. He was running vista also & has the same spec pc as me. I told him to get WinXP on & now he says it plays 100% better.
I will say no more about Vista, I could go on forever :p

[AnubanUT2]

This is not just a Vista issue (it has been confirmed that it happens on XP as well) and it is unlikely that it is overheating from the info I have been told (that is why I am curious about how the new 8800 GTS 512 are with UT3 ... they have better cooling than the 8800 GT). I spoke to a tech dude from both eVGA and XFX and each one told me that the card are rated to operate safely up to 95c ... once it gets to that point then you need to cool it down so that gives people a lot of room to OC and not have to worry about temps. So again the most likely think are the drivers for the vid cards as I said earlier.

[Rajinn]

lmao! screw tv :-D well my internet is running at a whopping 12kbit/s due to a break in the fiber line a couple miles down the road, a week later they still havent fixed it, so i cant really play ut3 online and i already beat campaign on insane and instant action is just childs play.

im glad your ram checks out that eliminates something! silverstone makes an A+ quality PSU, i doubt you have any power issues. it could very well be a vista issue on your side. if you have access to windows xp, give it a shot, but be warned you will have to do a "repair" on vista (insert vista disc and boot from it) to get the mbr fixed (or download vistabootpro, freeware) so that you can boot into vista again. i need to figure out exactly whats wrong with mine, i screwed ut3 up once on vista already i dont think i did it twice o.0

as for the drivers, i've never tried 163 series on the 8800GT, if you dont use beta drivers then that is entirely your own decision, but 169.02 is the latest whql drivers for vista x64 located @ http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_169.02.html

anuban, even so, thats way too hot for the card. 105c will fry it. thats a dust ball away! (anything that can stop the fan for a moment). if xp stops the stuttering then so be it. and low heat is always better, regardless of the scenario, try putting a 120mm blowing through your 8800GTs and see if it yields any effect, if so its a heat issue.

lost my train of thought so my post ends here
edit:
whoa i got logged out while typing an edit a sec ago! wtf?!
remembered i had a stuttering problem (not the speech related one!) when i reinstalled xp. driver conflict IIRC, resolved it with driver cleaner pro in safemode, erased chipset/gfx (both nvidia) then reboot, reinstalled chipset in safe mode, reboot, reinstalled gfx in safemode, then reboot, all was good.

[Zenoxious]

There is no need to be insulting to someone who is obviously a newbie when it comes to forums and such (or who was so frustrated that he simply forget to list his specs). He needs some help and is already frustrated.

There is a difference between being 'new' and having common sense. I know some people are ohhhh you can't say anything bad to people they might cry... but ("Its ultra retarded to make such a post and then give no information about your kit.") is not even that abrasive. On the other hand if I had said what I was really thinking which was that the post was stupid written by a stoopid person you might have a point not the mention the following but:

1) He's obviously not interested as he has since not responded.
2) He's replied several times whilst people have been asking WHAT HARDWARE do you have.
3) If you want to waste your time on such lost causes be my guest but until he does the minimum by either looking at other posts or stating his hardware then I am not going to waste my time trying to help him.

[Odd1in]

This may help with over heating problems, it helped a lot on my rig. (8800GTX)

Riva tuner is a utility that can speed up the fan on Nvidia 8800 cards, when fan is set to 100% my card idles at 113F(45C) and while ingame, gets no higher than 130 fahrenheit (54C)

here's a link with more details:
http://www.winxpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22574

here's the actual Riva site

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163

[kaluro]

PC ofcourse, its a known bug, but its getting worse for me.

Known to who?

[kaluro]

This may help with over heating problems, it helped a lot on my rig. (8800GTX)

Riva tuner is a utility that can speed up the fan on Nvidia 8800 cards, when fan is set to 100% my card idles at 113 and while ingame, gets no higher than 130[/url]

Dude, if that's the case for your videocard, then your cooler is mounted badly, or your fan isn't working properly..

It should be around 40° C Idle and NEVER go above 85-90° C stressed.. ever!

[Odd1in]

I was speaking in terms of fahrenheit, I'll edit my post so as not to confuse

[Epickiller]

Overheating? Well yes, the 8800gt produces some high temps but he doesn't have the right symptoms... crashes don't occur due to overheating, artefacts do. It's either a driver issue or a patch issue. But I still think you should take Rajinn's advice and check your temps using Rivatuner.

[Killerus]

i have never had any issues with ut3 and my evga 8800gt 512mb super clocked verison. I do use riva tuner and speed fan and after gaming it usually sits around 54 c and idle around 44 c. I am using a fan speed of 65%.

I was having some issues with another game though (test drive unlimited), where it was artifacting after 5 minutes of game play. I ran the fan at 100% thru riva tuner and it did not change anything. i found that the overclocking of my card from the factory was causing the problem. My card sits at 650 for the core clock and 950 for the memory clock from EVGA. I lowered both of them by 25 and went back to TDU and it fixed the artifact problem i had. I ran the game for 2 hours without a problem. The temp was around 54 c after playing and never went any higher.

Is it possible that some are overclocking there cards to the point that UT does not like it anymore? I don't have an issue with the higher clock on my pc for UT3 but maybe with some with older CPU's and mobos can't handle the overclock as well and the game locks up. Just a theory at this point but has anyone tried to underclock their card slightly to see if that fixes anything? Also is your power supply have enough amps on the 12 volt rail to support your video card. The EVGA 8800gt 512 SC says it needs atleast 24 amps on the 12v rail to function. i am getting away with 20amps but maybe some with issues are using far less.