Swicthing Gametypes in Maplist

[GrimReaper]

Well since I like CTF a lot is it possible to have different gametypes in the maplist. I want to be able to have both gametypes CTF and vCTF maps in the same maplist. If this possible please in detail explain how to do this with a small example.

Thanks in advance ;)

[Frogger]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...

[UT3sysop]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...


I would like to know that also. I used to have a UT2004 server and used a mutator called Map Mixer. It worked great. Now has the way UT3 works as far as map lists concerned have they changed or do they function the same way as UT2004. Because if they are in the same format you could use map mixer to setup your map list they way you want simply mixing map types. No big deal unless the way mutators are used in UT3 have changed. As an admin it is vital to find out these types of issues.

[UT3sysop]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...

Hey Frogger would this work as stated by Slaughter?

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First, by default Map Voting for all of the VCTF maps would be enabled. To disable that, in UTGame.ini you would look for the [UTGame.UTGame] section and set bAllowMapVoting=false. To run vCTF and CTF maps you would probably have to add a GameSpecificMapCycles entry in the same section such as:

GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTVehicleCTF Game",Maps=("VCTF-Suspense","VCTF-Containment","CTF-Coret",etc))

(That is a guess...I assume it would work).
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I really dont need to have map voting turned on.


Thanks in advanced ;)

[UT3sysop]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...

Yes but your did not make an example what it would look like in the command line ;) Can you give an example?

[}UFT{MisChief]

did anyone get this to work? is so post how it looks in the game.ini

[Al]

I'd like to know exactly how to do this also.

[cRaZyLaDy*SIG*]

Well, I, too, am all ears. I have edited the .ini file just as directed and added all gametypes. Mapvote works for DM but nothing else. Man, am I getting tired.

cRaZyLaDy*SIG*

[Dubious]

Everyone should remember that UT2004 did not have this functionality even after a dozen patches. It took a mutator to allow cross-gametype voting. Dont hold your breath for Epic to have this built-in anytime soon, if ever. Look to the mod/mutator community if you want this done.

[hawkwind]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...
thanks frogger,
read what the man said , try it , then comment

[}UFT{MisChief]

thanks frogger,
read what the man said , try it , then comment


did read what man said. did try it and it dont work.
and if u did get it to post how u got it to work.
i have a maplist for each gametype and at end of match all u can vote for is what ever gametype the server is on.

[CurlyJ]

Everyone should remember that UT2004 did not have this functionality even after a dozen patches. It took a mutator to allow cross-gametype voting. Dont hold your breath for Epic to have this built-in anytime soon, if ever. Look to the mod/mutator community if you want this done.
Maybe your confussed? Map vote worked for game types out the box on ut2004. It didnt for ut2003.

[Death1978]

you'll need two maplists..set both gametypes as voteable..they should both show as options in voting...

EndTimeDelay=4.0
bAllowMapVoting=true
bAllowGameModeVoting=true
VoteDuration=45
SpecificGameModeCycle=(GameClassName="UTGame",Games=("UTGame.UTDeathmatch","UTGame.UtTeamGame","UTGame.UTCTFGame","UTGame.UTOnslaughtGame","UtGame.UTDualGame"))
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTDeathmatch",Maps=("DM-Arsenal","DM-Sanctuary","DM-Deck","DM-Defiance","DM-Deimos","DM-Diesel","DM-Gateway","DM-Hardcore","DM-HeatRay","DM-Revenant","DM-RisingSun","DM-Sentinel","DM-ShangriLa"))
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTTeamGame",Maps=("DM-Arsenal","DM-Sanctuary","DM-Deck","DM-Defiance","DM-Deimos","DM-Diesel","DM-Gateway","DM-Hardcore","DM-HeatRay","DM-Revenant","DM-RisingSun","DM-Sentinel","DM-ShangriLa"))
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTCTFGame",Maps=("CTF-CircuitBreaker","CTF-Coret","CTF-Hydrosis","CTF-Reflection","CTF-Vertebrae"))
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTOnslaughtGame",Maps=("WAR-Downtown","WAR-SinkHole","WAR-Dusk","WAR-Islander","WAR-Avalanche","WAR-MarketDistrict","WAR-OnyxCoast","WAR-Powersurge","WAR-Serenity","WAR-FloodGate","WAR-Torlan"))
MaxCustomChars=12

have few maplists, tho how do I set it so woudl be able to vote, doesnt matter how change lines, doesnt come up.

[NIR_Meteor]

Why not give a small example to help us out? Please?

[Dubious]

Why not give a small example to help us out? Please?
Check out this thread for an example on how to do this: http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=592303

[sammyboy405]

Check out this thread for an example on how to do this: http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=592303

Yes this works Great and Fine..

BUT

The draw back is that is if you use voting, its gonna look like crap. Its basicly a bug in UT that. Basicly for the vote list you will have all your INI code for the game cycle list on the screen to vote on. I just turned Voting off for not and it auto rotates fine.

Here is par of my INI.


[UTGame.UTGame]
BotRatio=1.000000
GoalScore=25
bTournament=false
bPlayersMustBeReady=false
NetWait=15
ClientProcessingTimeout=30
RestartWait=45
MinNetPlayers=1
bWaitForNetPlayers=false
LateEntryLives=1
TimeLimit=20
GameDifficulty=+5
EndTimeDelay=4.000000
bAllowMapVoting=false
VoteDuration=45
MaxCustomChars=12
bForceRespawn=False
ServerSkillLevel=0
MapCycleIndex=1
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTDeathmatch",Maps=("DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0","WAR-Islander?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=2","DM-RisingSun?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0","vCTF-Containment?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=3","DM-Arsenal?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0"))

And here is my CMD line


server DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0?MaxPlayer s=16?NumPublicConnections=10?NumOpenPublicConnecti ons=10?numplay=5?ServerDescription=083000097000099 00011400010100010000003200008200010500011600010100 01150000320000450000320001190001190001190000460001 15000097000099000114000101000100000114000105000116 00010100011500004600011000010100011600003200004500 00320000820001010000990001140001170001050001160001 05000110000103000?bShouldAdvertise=True?bUsesStats =True?BotSkill=3?AdminPassword=xxxx -multihome=xxxx -port=7777 -login=xxxx -password=xxxx -log=GameServers.log -nohomedir -unattended

Hope it helps My Above code has Voting turned off

But be warned if you turn voting on its not going to look pretty. I hope they can fix this later in a patch.

[sinx]

I had started converting my MapMixer mutator for use in UT3, however, due to UT3 missing one important function and a lack of support for another, it has been placed on hold until Epic fix these issues.

http://mapmixer.oceaniaut.com

[NIR_Meteor]

ok... I got it now... thanx for your help :)

[DarkAvenger]

ok... I got it now... thanx for your help :)

Do you mind telling the rest of us what you did?

[NIR_Meteor]

[UTGame.UTGame]
GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTDeathmatch",Maps=("DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0","WAR-Islander?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=2","DM-RisingSun?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0","vCTF-Containment?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=3","DM-Arsenal?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0"))

with mapvote turned on the above will show this in vote screen I believe:

DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
WAR-Islander?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=2
DM-RisingSun?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
vCTF-Containment?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=3
DM-Arsenal?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0

Once I get to setting it up with voting enabled I'll post back as to if it works...

[DarkAvenger]

Oh, that's ugly. I was hoping you had figured out a better way. Maybe a map vote mutator will soon be coming, or Epic will fix that. (fingers crossed)

[NIR_Meteor]

this works the same way as if you just put all the maps in each gametype list... and does look better... but you have to know the map to know which gametype your choosing. Does not work with team dm though.

still has some bugs like when you switch to warfare it's 1 against everyone else and you can't change teams untill that map is over. At least when I'm alone it did. Then when others joined they were put on the oposite team so it was like 10 on 1 lol :) but hey it works for now...

CustomUT has gametype voting but buggy as hell...

[flu]

anyone get this working?

[{hLk}Havok]

have you tried CustomUT? It allows you to press f5 for voting menu, then you can pick gametype, and specific map.

http://www.hlkclan.net/images/forumpic/customut/custom_ut_1.JPG

http://www.hlkclan.net/images/forumpic/customut/custom_ut_2.JPG

http://www.hlkclan.net/images/forumpic/customut/custom_ut_3.JPG

http://www.hlkclan.net/images/forumpic/customut/custom_ut_4.JPG

see it in action on the {hLk} Map/game votable server.

see related thread for download
http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=592400&highlight=customut

[TekHead]

Well just for your info you dont need CustonmUT to run more than 1 gametype and have all the maps come up in the vote list. I have 27+ maps in my vote list I run Both CTF and VCTF and Custom maps in my Vote List with out running CustomUT. So if you need that info let me know!!

Cya

[{hLk}Havok]

yes i know that.
i didnt say it couldnt be done, it can be done, i find its just ugly that way is all. using utcustom presents the options in a much nicer format imo.

id rather use utcustom then see a large list like below for each map / gametype in the voting section.

isnt this what it looks like in a vote w/o using utcustom?

DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
WAR-Islander?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=2
DM-RisingSun?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
vCTF-Containment?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=3
DM-Arsenal?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0

id rather have it in a readable clickable format, then that mess above.

[TekHead]

yes i know that.
i didnt say it couldnt be done, it can be done, i find its just ugly that way is all. using utcustom presents the options in a much nicer format imo.

id rather use utcustom then see a large list like below for each map / gametype in the voting section.

isnt this what it looks like in a vote w/o using utcustom?

DM-Deck?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
WAR-Islander?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=2
DM-RisingSun?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0
vCTF-Containment?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=3
DM-Arsenal?Game=UTGame.UTDeathmatch?GameMode=0

id rather have it in a readable clickable format, then that mess above.

No! heheheehe where did you get that idea roflmfao hehehehe. It looks just like a normal voting list :p. Do you want me to show u a pic for proof lol

[{hLk}Havok]

sure, or even better just tell people how to do it. then people can pick what they want to do. theres many options out there.
customut
biavote
etc..
from what i had read about doing it within the game itself it was ugly. i use custom ut for our league servers, etc.. so it was easy to use on my custom server as im quite familiar with it. The method i read (by searching these forums http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=592303) was the ugly one shown.

CustomUT allows for voting at anytime not just at the end.

the bottom line is to give people as much info as there is out there and then they can pick whichever way is easiest and looks the best to them. theres no secret to it.

[TekHead]

sure, or even better just tell people how to do it. then people can pick what they want to do. theres many options out there.
customut
biavote
etc..
from what i had read about doing it within the game itself it was ugly. i use custom ut for our league servers, etc.. so it was easy to use on my custom server as im quite familiar with it. The method i read (by searching these forums) was the ugly one shown.

CustomUT allows for voting at anytime not just at the end.

the bottom line is to give people as much info as there is out there and then they can pick whichever way is easiest and looks the best to them. theres no secret to it.

Ok here is the Pic!!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8584/mypicfx1.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mypicfx1.jpg)

As you can see I have both game types CTF and VCTF and Custom Maps In My Map List!!

Here Is how I did. Quite Simple Really:

Make sure you have map voting turned on "ALL" gametypes: IE: bAllowMapVoting=True

Here is the CTF gametype: Note: Both CTF and VCTF maps are on the same line

GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTCTFGame_Content",Maps=("CTF-Coret","VCTF-Avalanche_v2_Beta2"))

Here is the VCTF gametype: Note: Both CTF and VCTF maps are on the same line

GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTVehicleCTFGame_Content",Maps=("VCTF-Avalanche_v2_Beta2","CTF-Coret"))

When Adding maps make sure you put the same map name in "BOTH" gametypes

Example: Of Adding A Map To The List: ( Look at the end of the line! )

GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTVehicleCTFGame_Content",Maps=("VCTF-Avalanche_v2_Beta2","CTF-Coret","CTF-NEWMAP,"VCTF-NEWMAP2"))

GameSpecificMapCycles=(GameClassName="UTCTFGame_Content",Maps=("VCTF-Avalanche_v2_Beta2","CTF-Coret","CTF-NEWMAP,"VCTF-NEWMAP2"))

When Adding maps make sure you put the same map name in "BOTH" gametypes

Thats it No Big Deal!!

Here is the begining of my command line:

server VCTF-Megastructure?Game=UTGameContent.UTVehicleCTFGame_ Content?GameMode=3?Blah?Blah?Blah?Blah?Blah?

Hope That Helps

Cya!

[{hLk}Havok]

ye i dont think doing it that way would work for a dm, vctf, instagib, tm server. How would the people voting know which map is dm, which is vctf, which is tm? Unless im missing something.

I actually have something similar set in my ini file as I use some of the same maps for dm, team, and instagib. I have to list the map under each specificmapcycle to get it to show when voting under each gametype.

Thats one of the nice parts with CustomUT, I can actually have it run VCTF maps in a DM if I wanted to. User picks the gametype they want, and then the specific map, as long as you had predefined the map in the ini for each gamespecificmapcycles.

[TekHead]

ye i dont think doing it that way would work for a dm, vctf, instagib, tm server. How would the people voting know which map is dm, which is vctf, which is tm?

Well you saw the picture so dont tell me it dont work I have 27 CTF and VCTF maps in my Vote map list on my server hehehe So dont tell me it dont work ROFLMFAO :p I use it on my server and it works great!. As far as know what map is a CTF and what is a VCTF map most people already know what maps goes to what gametypes if a user plays those gametypes! So no worries there!

Check it out for your self: Here is the IP: 74.63.64.53:7777

Like I said works for me and thats all I care about! :p

[[IGS]Prof_Chaos]

Loving the CustomUT! UT3 is so new and maps coming out all the time, NOT ALL will have the psychic ability to KNOW what map is what gametype. And with this CustomUT, well, name says it all, CUSTOMIZABLE! LOL! Very simple for everyone to see what's what, especially newly created maps.

[TekHead]

Prof_Chaos;25277031']Loving the CustomUT! UT3 is so new and maps coming out all the time, NOT ALL will have the psychic ability to KNOW what map is what gametype. And with this CustomUT, well, name says it all, CUSTOMIZABLE! LOL! Very simple for everyone to see what's what, especially newly created maps.

On my server I run both CTF and VCTF Maps Only! Well if you play a specific gametype like CTF or VCTF all the time you will know what maps are CTF and VCTF unless your a complete freaking moron :D So like I said works for me and my users no problem. :p

[{hLk}Havok]

If u liked UTcomp and found it useful, you'll like UTCOMPv31 even more. This guy picked up where the author of UTcomp left off. Fixed some bugs, etc..

http://www.xtp-clan.com/esport/file/107/download/123/

another link
http://www.unrealnorth.com/files.php?path=Unreal_Tournament_3/Mutators/&action=dl&file=259

Either way you want to do it, with a 3rd party util or from within the game itself works, use whatever fits ur needs, whatever you want, and keeps the peeps playing! Thats really the bottom line. I run more then just a vctf or ctf, so I wouldnt expect peeps to know all the maps names, gametypes, etc.. If it works for ya that way, great and more power to ya!

[Elohim]

If u liked UTcomp and found it useful, you'll like UTCOMPv31 even more. This guy picked up where the author of UTcomp left off. Fixed some bugs, etc..

http://www.xtp-clan.com/esport/file/107/download/123/

another link
http://www.unrealnorth.com/files.php?path=Unreal_Tournament_3/Mutators/&action=dl&file=259

Either way you want to do it, with a 3rd party util or from within the game itself works, use whatever fits ur needs, whatever you want, and keeps the peeps playing! Thats really the bottom line. I run more then just a vctf or ctf, so I wouldnt expect peeps to know all the maps names, gametypes, etc.. If it works for ya that way, great and more power to ya!

What's the difference between UTComp and CustomUT? Would you say one is better than the other?

[Elohim]

Ignore my question above. It looks like CustomUT is now UTComp :)