i found new 360 UT3 info!!!!!!! epic please have more players online

[jfrizzle14]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25653753


4 player online co-op
18 vehicles
but epic needs to raise the players a bit on the 360

[DX-GAME]

oops..

4-8 players 18 vehicles?
Whats the point?

32 max.
K.I.S.S.

Sketchy news, but the worst thing that can happen is to limit the amount of players per server to something less than 32 for ONS and 16 for DM on a consol. Dont even think of that low on PC.

Might be time to go back to the drawing board..

[Henrik]

Who cares about the 360 version. New REAL game info plz.

[MonsOlympus]

lol sorry but 8-16 players max seems pretty decent for the graphics of this game on a console, not to mention the fact that alot of console players seem to be complaining of lag and the game isnt out. Go figure hey, more lag or less players? Lets not forget about technical limitations and perhaps that the console is pushing it to display more characters in all their glory so again more players or less detail?

I would like to know what this 4 Player coop is all about because if it was 8 a side then you would think team based play would be counted seperate. I just wonder if its a cooperative single player campaign or just team based multiplayer with players vs bots.


Who cares about the 360 version. New REAL game info plz.

QTF, it is kinda annoying hearing UT3 news oh its 360 or oh its PS3. Mind you we could have even seen PC stuff and not even realised it :S

[TWD]

I don't see what the huge deal is with it only being 16. That's what it's always been in the past... Anything above that in UT has just been a spam fest in the past. I really don't think they're going for a battlefield style game here exactly.

[OakCoast]

16 players is great. I doubt they will have all 32 vehicles in one level, and if they do I will definitely have the imaginary luxury that a rapstar has to contemplate every morning--which benz will I roll in today. That will be awesome. Frickin' UC 2. Epic will never have dedicated services after gamers failed to pick up that hidden gem.

[icewind]

Who cares about the 360 version. New REAL game info plz.
Every time I hear UT3 and "console" in the same sentence I die a little bit inside.

[fuegerstef]

THere is only one newsline I wanna read regarding the console versions of UT3:

The official and final announcement, that the PC players aren't gonna be disturbed by console players, not ingame and not when it comes to the game's design.

Yes, I know they made statements that it is unlikely to happen... ...but you never know.

[ne_skaju]

i do not care about this, ideal playercount for Unreal is 10-12

[MuLuNGuS]

Every time I hear UT3 and "console" in the same sentence I die a little bit inside.


UT3 on consolos is LOLz.
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p.s. playing shooters with a console controller sucks...yes..in GOW too...

[Miko]

Will you all who cry out that PC is better than Console in FPS games please stop with the Console UT3 hate. Unreal Games have always been multi platform with the exception of UT2004. Stop acting like its the end of the freaking world because UT3 is also on the Xbox 360 and PS3. Get over it already! Sure PC version will have some obvious advantages over the console version but hello. Console shooters aren't horrible in general. Don't turn this into a PC is better than Console in shooter thread

[durtytarget]

16 is just right. Some people are never happy!!!!!!!!!

[Mastame]

Will you all who cry out that PC is better than Console in FPS games please stop with the Console UT3 hate. Unreal Games have always been multi platform with the exception of UT2004. Stop acting like its the end of the freaking world because UT3 is also on the Xbox 360 and PS3. Get over it already! Sure PC version will have some obvious advantages over the console version but hello. Console shooters aren't horrible in general. Don't turn this into a PC is better than Console in shooter thread
UT, UT2003 and UT2004 have always mainly been computergames. There hasn't been much focus on any other platforms it may have been launched on.
I understand that it's exciting to be shipping this game on these two consoles, but we good ol' loyal PC gamers kind of expect to be first and would like some information that has to do with us.

[rhiridflaidd]

The more the merrier. 32 player games on maps created to deal with that number of players, hosted on a server that has proper bandwidth is far better than 6 a side games.

Full open warfare type games is a lot better for the general public, because one or two weak players on your team makes no difference. 2 idiots on your team when there's only 6 of you means that your team is in serious trouble.

I agree that the more players who will be able to play, the longer lived the game will be.

[Slaughter]

The more the merrier. 32 player games on maps created to deal with that number of players, hosted on a server that has proper bandwidth is far better than 6 a side games.

Full open warfare type games is a lot better for the general public, because one or two weak players on your team makes no difference. 2 idiots on your team when there's only 6 of you means that your team is in serious trouble.

I agree that the more players who will be able to play, the longer lived the game will be.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[B1tchkilla]

Don't turn this into a PC is better than Console in shooter thread
Noone wants to do this, so don't start it yourself. What fueger meant is: Let console players play their game on consoles and PC players play it on PC. But don't mix it together online. Nothing more, nothing less.

[DX-GAME]

Look at it this way. You got consol players in with PC players, getting ripped to shreds, they might put away the consols and boost the PC industry again. Its a great idea!

A few points ..
Unreal IS a spam fest, even in 1 on 1 matches.

16 players is a waste of ONS.

8 players is a waste of DM.

The 360 is plenty powerful enough to have that many players because I can almost guarantee its going to be nerfed down to med low on the graphics.

[FrostBiteEST]

U got it all wrong . In singel player there are 4 players in your team or something like that not in multiplayer.

[MrLemur2U]

The player count limitation of 8 for the 360 is about right since all games are hosted, and the XBOX can barely manage the 8. UC2 pushed the XBOX1 to its limits as UT3 (and GeOW) push the 360, hence the 8 char limit.

If you wan't the next gen graphics, a compromise has to be made.

I would image the PC version won't handle 32 very well, TBH. At least not at the time of release with the hardware that is out there.

[WarTourist]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25653753


4 player online co-op
18 vehicles
but epic needs to raise the players a bit on the 360

I think there's around 7 new screens in that issue :-).

[Catzenjaeger]

I think there's around 7 new screens in that issue :-).

Yea sure, but these pictures are exclusively reserved for print magazines (says Midway) Unfortunately we may not publish this Scans (copyright)

We would , but Epic/Midway lets us wait :)

WarTourist, when we can expect new UT3 stuff from Epic/Midway? (movies, screens etc.)

[hal]

New screenshots... in an Xbox-specific magazine only available in the US and Canada. :(

sigh

[MonsOlympus]

New screenshots... in an Xbox-specific magazine only available in the US and Canada. :(

sigh

Agreed Hal, Ive barely even seen UT3 mentioned in my local PC magazine PC PowerPlay. Mind you they had a big spread on crysis last month, perhaps I should be looking for Hyper which covers all platforms :(

[WarTourist]

WarTourist, when we can expect new UT3 stuff from Epic/Midway? (movies, screens etc.)

I don't understand. There's 7 new shots in that magazine! Brand new!

[Catzenjaeger]

I don't understand. There's 7 new shots in that magazine!

sure but midway says this screens exclusively reserved for print magazines and we cant publish illigal scans on our websites. Germanys print magazine gamestar pcaction .... have also publish some new screens already for weeks ago and this was exclusively too :(

[Jrubzjeknf]

Yea sure, but these pictures are exclusively reserved for print magazines (says Midway) Unfortunately we may not publish this Scans (copyright)

Do you have the screens?

[WarTourist]

sure but midway says this screens exclusively reserved for print magazines and we cant publish illigal scans on our websites. Germanys print magazine gamestar pcaction .... have also publish some new screens already for weeks ago and this was exclusively too :(

That's how we get covers! :)

[Mr.UglyPants]

Who cares about the 360 version. New REAL game info plz.

Exactly my 360 hating friend.

[TWD]

Sure but look at the results. This was posted like yesterday morning, and the thread is only barely breaking a page!? A story like this should have generated far more comments than this by now. Especially considering that this is the only serious new info we've had in such a long time. Poor marketing IMO.

[WarTourist]

Exactly my 360 hating friend.

All the same game :)!

[Unreal Butcher]

Those scans aren't showing up when I click the link for some reason. :(

[DeathBooger]

All the same game :)!

People are console-phobic and when you say it's the same game they automatically think UT3 will be watered down. It doesn't make much sense to me either, it's just how people view it for whatever reason.

[os][ris]

New screenshots... in an Xbox-specific magazine only available in the US and Canada. :(

sigh

double sigh..

[os][ris]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25653753


4 player online co-op
18 vehicles
but epic needs to raise the players a bit on the 360

I clicked this link but did not see anything.. whats the deal?

[DeathBooger]

[ris;24899824']I clicked this link but did not see anything.. whats the deal?

The magazine scans were removed from the site. I plan on buying the magazine tonight if I can find a copy and I'll post any new info I read in a news post on BU.

[SlipperyAlpha]

In the July OXM, Epic says that the 360 will have a 16-20 combatant limit on the larger maps which is a consistent limit for console shooters.

However, what I would really like is the map creator because the 360 could use something more than what was provided in Far Cry Predator. I can not remember who was interviewed, but Epic says that they haven't decided whether or not to include the map creator for the 360. Here's hoping (apologies for thread jacking and I will start my own thread on this).

[os][ris]

The magazine scans were removed from the site. I plan on buying the magazine tonight if I can find a copy and I'll post any new info I read in a news post on BU.

well guess i wont see it cause i'm not buying a magazine to look at pictures..

[hal]

That's how we get covers! :)
But what if no one sees them? :)

[MonsOlympus]

My question is are they the same game? If they were I would expect that any information received should be relevant across all platforms then not just one specifically. Sure I might be being alittle pedantic but Im finding it very disconcerting that there seems to be more information readily available for platforms other then PC. When I look at the screen shots or footage I do have to wonder which platform I am actually looking at, sure I know I might not be able to run UT3 up full on my PC but it does go to knowing what your buying.

With that said Im taking a guess that these new screen shots are from the xbox 360 version of the game since its in an xbox magazine. I have no worries with the game being released on other platforms but my concern is who is getting what information. So far the Consoles seem to be favoured for footage and q/a's, I do think most of the screen shots on the official site are from PC.

I guess as a consumer I just want to know what Im buying and with all the UT3 information available it could be easy for someone to mix up one platforms features from another. So while its been said its the same game, which I do believe it is at heart, I cant really see it that way from the marketing side. Sure the brand covers many platforms but the game itself would have to vary some across them, from what I have heard that seems to be the case. I am how ever at a loss at what to think about this game, I could assume that in saying they are the same game means they will infact be almost identical across all platforms minus the control schemes. Which could also mean the graphical details will be very similar across all platforms.

Honestly Im just so damn confused Im about ready to give up! Sure I'll buy the game but I'll just have to wait to hear on the demo release for PC.

[placebo]

So when do we get the scans

[_Lynx]

You won't get them here - that's for sure.

[iron12]

I think there's around 7 new screens in that issue :-).

How about some exclusive Epic Forum Screenshots. :)

[Raynor]

You people should keep close eye on BU, sometimes you might find interesting stuff from there ;)

[placebo]

I posted a thread with the scans

[Lee_Shagwell]

In all honesty I've changed my mind, I actually support cross platform playing now, think about it, the more the merrier.

[Gregori]

That wouldn't be good news for the pc version at all.

[placebo]

That wouldn't be good news for the pc version at all.
yeah having people to play against sure sucks

[durtytarget]

yeah having people to play against sure sucks

Am i right in thinking that your comment is sarcastic? I personally think that 16 is good. Considering the detail etc and the physics supporting many players is very difficult. And if you play UT2k4 online you would observe that there are very very few servers that play on 16 players in DM and more than that is out of the question. in onslaught you oly see 16 players..not more..not less. And i think it's just fine rather than having an over crowded map lagging each second where you die before you spawn.

[DagnyTaggart]

Will you all who cry out that PC is better than Console in FPS games please stop with the Console UT3 hate. Unreal Games have always been multi platform with the exception of UT2004. Stop acting like its the end of the freaking world because UT3 is also on the Xbox 360 and PS3. Get over it already! Sure PC version will have some obvious advantages over the console version but hello. Console shooters aren't horrible in general. Don't turn this into a PC is better than Console in shooter thread

I don't think anyone really cares if people play the game on consoles. Rather, the concern is that in trying to appeal to console players, the quality of UT3's game play (on the PC) will be compromised.

[Gregori]

yeah having people to play against sure sucks

Having the game nerfed so console people can keep up with you sucks.

[fuegerstef]

I don't think anyone really cares if people play the game on consoles. Rather, the concern is that in trying to appeal to console players, the quality of UT3's game play (on the PC) will be compromised.

Yep, exactly this.




Having the game nerfed so console people can keep up with you sucks.

Another one speaks the truth.

[MuLuNGuS]

I don't think anyone really cares if people play the game on consoles. Rather, the concern is that in trying to appeal to console players, the quality of UT3's game play (on the PC) will be compromised.


yeah, i have to agree too...


another thing is, UT is a game for competition gaming, or did someone ever see an xbox360 on a big LANPARTY???(try to connect my dedicated server, lol)

the XBOX360 is a nice mashine and the controller is good stuff, its fun to play games like "saints row" with it on the side while u sitting on the sofa, but the real harcore competition gaming goes to the PC.
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PC > all :D

[SluGSlinGa]

co-op means single player.

so 4 player co-op is fine.

[placebo]

Having the game nerfed so console people can keep up with you sucks.
mmm, but that's not what's going to happen

[nvrmor]

mmm, but that's not what's going to happen

really?


All the same game :)!

you cant have it both ways.

[Gregori]

mmm, but that's not what's going to happen


'Cause they're not doing cross platform! It already been said that movement for XBox360 Version is slower, the Collision radius is bigger. Two seperate games is better than having either version compromised.

[CaFe]

I really hope they allow max player support (32 players, based off of ut2k4 not any real info about ut3) for co-op. The night this game comes out I'm loading up a server with 32 people and co-oping the **** out of this game. :}

[Jrubzjeknf]

You guys do remember that an article said that players in the 360 version of UT3 can lean, so they can shoot around a corner, right?

which makes it evident that the 360 and PC version of UT3 cannot be the same game, since we don't have any keys left to map leaning on our keyboard. WASD for movement, E for Use, Q for trans/hoverboard. But this will most likely be ignored for the sake of ranting about c0nzol3z anyway. :(

[Malakai]

That wasn't said about the 360 version, it was said about the PS3 version. The lean feature is done with the motion sensing of the PS3 controller. However, I'm not sure whether they're going to put that into the 360 version too, somehow. I could do without a lean feature. Leaning is for spy and stealth games, and UT isn't that type of game.

[fuegerstef]

You guys do remember that an article said that players in the 360 version of UT3 can lean, so they can shoot around a corner, right?[/SIZE]

It was Steve Polge* who said on BeyondUnreal that there is NO LEANING in any version.

*) It was verified by hal of the BU staff that it really was Steve and not a fakenicker.