Make annex kills count petition

[Battlebuds]

Sign the petition!

What is the point in playing annex, aside from split screen having a few beers with a friend. The fact that the kills do not add up to the seriously acheivment is super lame. Fix this epic, fix it!:eek:

[Teh An1m4l]

Sign the petition!

What is the point in playing annex

Erm, for fun?
Not everyone is an acheivement whore. :rolleyes:

[smasher2000]

You're on your own

You're on your own, la la la lala,

You're on your own!



..and repeat

[SofaKingGnarly]

I want the kills to count but he didn't post a like to his petiton

[julianwelton]

They don't count where did you hear this?

[SofaKingGnarly]

xbox.com check it out

[HCF]

so uhm... where to sign?

[The Evil Hat]

i wanted it till i played it. i love annex but i get 30 kills a round. that is seriosuly so much fatsre it just isnt fair

[aightZz]

i wanted it till i played it. i love annex but i get 30 kills a round. that is seriosuly so much fatsre it just isnt fair

You can't get seriously archievement on Annex.

[Skynyrd Fan]

If they did this, then warzone and execution would die out, and personally i like warzone better than annex. So this way people play all 4 game types.

[The Evil Hat]

You can't get seriously archievement on Annex.

i know and you shouldnt be able to

[SofaKingGnarly]

you should!! he killed 30 people!! it still took skill to get those kills!!!! he didn't just tell them to die he worked to get them

[Adam1902]

Can you get weapon achievments on it? Please say yes.... *Crosses fingers*

If seriously doesen't count on it, then they should make it so that it does, but, where if you egt 4 kills, that only counts as 1 kill. That way its totaly fair between all gametypes.

[Udam the Ogre]

Yea, I'm with Adam on this question. I played last night and got 95 kills in around an hour in ranked. I want my torque ach and wondered if those kills count towards that?

[SLAPAMEGSIKAN]

If they let the kills count, the achievments would be worthless as any sign of skill, everyone playing the game would have most, if not all of the weapons and kill achievments inside of a week.

[Adam1902]

Y'know, I think its all a load of bullcrap about achievments not counting... Untill I hear official word from Epic, I won't believe it. We've only heared this on Xbox.com, where people just talk crap.

[Prvt.Pegleg]

When was the last time a petition did something?

[Mr Campo]

where is the petition link

[Adam1902]

Alright... Official word from Epic, FAQ been stickied, didn't notice it.
http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=567368


Q: How does Annex affect gaining achievements?

A: Due to the addition of infinite respawns, any kills in Annex won’t count towards kill-based achievements like “Seriously…” and “The Nuge”. Since Annex is a new additional gametype, you will not need to play Annex to be granted “Mix It Up”. The basic multiplayer achievements like “Always Remember Your First” are still achievable in Annex.

To be honest, that really, really, really sucks.
What about new players to GoW? They'll be playing Annex for the achievments and it doesen't even say in the describtion of the achievments "Except Annex".

It says, get 100 kills with *insert weapon here* IN RANKED MATCHES! Since Annex is a ranked match, like the achievment says, it should count.

[GamberX]

Bioshock is now getting a limited edition due to a petiton.They said if they get at least 5000 signatures they would release a limited edition,I think they got over 16,000 signatures not to sure.

So you never know it might work it might not,(like DMC4 petiton to stay on PS3)

[kahjah]

what a bunch of crying babies, "my kills don't count towards my achievements" sniff, sniff,. I can't stand these kids crying about useless achievement points for a useless gamerscore.

[Einchy]

It would be way too easy to get it. In a matter of days you could get it.

[Akumquat]

i played a 3 hour round of annex last night, andi personaly got over 200 kills
now thats way too easy to get the seriously acheivement if i were to just keep going like that. so I say they should not count towards seriously, but they should still cant for weapon acheivements, cuz i havent gotten all of mine yet and im going to be playing annex for at least the nex week =p

[ironlou]

Alright... Official word from Epic, FAQ been stickied, didn't notice it.
http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=567368



To be honest, that really, really, really sucks.
What about new players to GoW? They'll be playing Annex for the achievments and it doesen't even say in the describtion of the achievments "Except Annex".

It says, get 100 kills with *insert weapon here* IN RANKED MATCHES! Since Annex is a ranked match, like the achievment says, it should count.

I wonder if sniper achievements work in Annex....or if only the seriously and nuge not allowed to attain in annex ranked.

[TNA FEVER]

Sign the petition!

What is the point in playing annex, aside from split screen having a few beers with a friend. The fact that the kills do not add up to the seriously acheivment is super lame. Fix this epic, fix it!:eek:

We ask for a new gametype and and a patch while crying about glitches and such. We get the new patch and a new gametype and still more crying from everyone. Seriously. It is no big deal if their is no achievements for stuff that we do in Annex. If it was allowed for Annex you would have people having 19 round games all the time. At that rate, someone should be able to get 10 K kills within a day or two. That my friends is called boosting.
We ***** and cry about things in the game and beg Epic to give us a new game type and fix what we are *****ing about and we "STILL" are *****ing and complaining. Grow up guys!

[{SM}LeadSniper]

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=567605
cant we meet in the middle?

[shades_of_grey]

If they did this, then warzone and execution would die out...

I doubt it. The gametypes are different enough that all 4 would still be played. I played Warzone only last night, to test and enjoy the newly enhanced lancer. I'm sure I'll play Annex in the future, but I, (and many others), will still have a different gametype that is our favorite and that we will continue to play most of the time.

[billysaylor23]

what a bunch of crying babies, "my kills don't count towards my achievements" sniff, sniff,. I can't stand these kids crying about useless achievement points for a useless gamerscore.


My argument with no achievements is put this in the player match game type only. As of right now my team is all in the top 100 and we're 9-0 in annex(at least 1 of us is in the top 10 on the leaderboard). If this stays ranked then all the people who aren't part of a team "randoms" will be crying because this is a team style match and will be owned by teams. There is no way any set of 4 randoms can beat a team of 4 in this game type. Also having a leaderboard "for fun" basically adds to the problem. Once enough crying about the leaderboard not being fair starts I bet epic puts it as a player only match where it needs to be.

it's kinda sad but funny about all the lag of the game. You know there's lag when in a 3 round to 300 point game the Host(he's the one in the top 10) has over 100 kills....

[zchronister]

Signed!!!!

[cleopatrudo]

Yeahhhhhhh Make Them Count

[Lord_Satorious]

I don't play Gears of War online frequently enough to get all the multiplayer achievements. I don't even really care about the "Seriously ..." achievement, but I'd like the weapon specific kills achievements to count in Annex mode. I'm having a lot of fun with the new mode (maybe because I'm actually decent at it compared to the other multiplayer modes), but if I could get "It's a Massacre" or "Pistolero" in the process that would certainly be nice. I don't know if I'd ever get the achievements from the other multiplayer modes because I'm really not great online; I rarely ever break past single digits in the kill counter in any given game. I simply do better in games with respawn for some reason. Less stress in surviving I suppose. But yeah, I agree Annex mode kills should count, at least for the weapon specific kills achievements.

[painfull2006]

im in, they are kills all the same and the ammount of enamys shouldnt matter

[ksaintdouble]

This is pitiful. If you guys want achievements play the other modes. If you have fun playing Annex, play it for that reason. I'm glad they didn't institute achievements in Annex, seeing as the goal isn't to accumulate kills. If they included achievements you'd have players who didn't care about working as a team to win the match, they would only be concerned with raising their kill count, therefore defeating the purpose of the mode.

[Einchy]

Don't want to. :)

[Lemming Massacre]

what a bunch of crying babies, "my kills don't count towards my achievements" sniff, sniff,. I can't stand these kids crying about useless achievement points for a useless gamerscore.

are gamerscore doesn't matter to you, it matters to us!
the gamerscore is what you make it to be,not what anyone else
says or does.
:mad:

[Battlebuds]

If they let the kills count, the achievments would be worthless as any sign of skill, everyone playing the game would have most, if not all of the weapons and kill achievments inside of a week.


You're an idiot, its the same as warzone or anything, it just an longer amount of time, no skill.

[JasonMcAuley]

If they let the kills count, the achievments would be worthless as any sign of skill, everyone playing the game would have most, if not all of the weapons and kill achievments inside of a week.

Since when did skill include having to wait longer between rounds to get into the fight again? Thats the only difference between Warzone and annex on the killing aspect. No, getting Seriously... in warzone doesn't require more skill. It requires more sitting around between rounds when you are dead.

[Jakyl420]

omg, are you guys seriously crying over this. its not like a high gamerscore would get you laid. I have never seen or heard of anyone gettin all gangbanged because he had a high gamerscore...get over it. GS is gay anyway.

[Battlebuds]

omg, are you guys seriously crying over this. its not like a high gamerscore would get you laid. I have never seen or heard of anyone gettin all gangbanged because he had a high gamerscore...get over it. GS is gay anyway.


First, find out what gangbanged means, then you well understand why none under the term "he" would want to get gangbanged, unless of course. "he" enjoy's the company of other men. Secondly, some people enjoy unlocking acheivments as a sense of beating the game, not so much as, finishing the single player story, but judgeing how far into a game you are by its gamerscore, such as myself and many others.

Thirdly, GTFO of this thread.

[JasonMcAuley]

omg, are you guys seriously crying over this. its not like a high gamerscore would get you laid. I have never seen or heard of anyone gettin all gangbanged because he had a high gamerscore...get over it. GS is gay anyway.

Im not doing it for gamerscore. Im doing it because I enjoy GoW, and would like the opportunity to fulfill all the goals that it has set for you you overcome. Why do people set out to beat a game? People do it to self-fulfill themselves while having fun. If you said you've never at any point told yourself that you're determined to beat a certain video game, just to overcome the challenge, you're lying. Getting achievements is no different then going out and beating the game; I don't care about the "point value" that is associated with it. A kill in annex requires as much work as a kill in Warzone.

[Jakyl420]

First, find out what gangbanged means, then you well understand why none under the term "he" would want to get gangbanged, unless of course. "he" enjoy's the company of other men. Secondly, some people enjoy unlocking acheivments as a sense of beating the game, not so much as, finishing the single player story, but judgeing how far into a game you are by its gamerscore, such as myself and many others.

Thirdly, GTFO of this thread.

LOL, ew sick burn

[BackInYourHole]

Why can't you guys just play warzone, execution, or assassination for kills? God **** it's not that hard to see why its being done... say host gets 25 kills a round times (at the maximum) 19 rounds... that is 475 kills... absolutely absurd... and some people can get 50... so 50 times 19 is 950 kills... well there's the end of that argument :eek: :rolleyes:

[Zithromaxx]

I agree. Kills during Annex mode should count toward the "Seriously..." achievement.

[Manks21]

Work for it. Play the original three game types.

[JasonMcAuley]

Why can't you guys just play warzone, execution, or assassination for kills? God **** it's not that hard to see why its being done... say host gets 25 kills a round times (at the maximum) 19 rounds... that is 475 kills... absolutely absurd... and some people can get 50... so 50 times 19 is 950 kills... well there's the end of that argument :eek: :rolleyes:

And that host did the exact same amount of work as he would have in warzone. So why is there no credit? So apparently the achievement isn't based on getting 10,000 kills. Its based on going through the boring times sitting between each round in warzone?

[Prvt.Pegleg]

Why are achievements so important?

[JasonMcAuley]

Work for it. Play the original three game types.

See, you people fail to see. Warzone doesn't require more work at all. It requires more DOWNTIME that you're not even playing as rounds switch and you're dead. You do NO MORE WORK getting it on Warzone or Execution, just more time not even playing the game.

[Mystery.O]

no one really plays assasination and warzone and execution are getting tiring so annex helps freshen things up. im glad they gave us annex, but not really happy about the achievement issue, oh well

[ksaintdouble]

Im not doing it for gamerscore. Im doing it because I enjoy GoW, and would like the opportunity to fulfill all the goals that it has set for you you overcome. Why do people set out to beat a game? People do it to self-fulfill themselves while having fun. If you said you've never at any point told yourself that you're determined to beat a certain video game, just to overcome the challenge, you're lying. Getting achievements is no different then going out and beating the game; I don't care about the "point value" that is associated with it. A kill in annex requires as much work as a kill in Warzone.
So add the amount of kills you get in Annex to your overall kills and there you go. You have achieved your goal. After all, you don't care about the point value, right?

[Zithromaxx]

Your answer lies in the word "achievement." It's a sense of accomplishment that was never tracked in games before. It's not about the score, it's about the recognition. I don't care if other people see it. And not everybody is going to care about achievements. But for those of us who do, we have an opinion. So the question is, why is it so important for you to care what we care about? I ask that question without any hidden aggression or anything of the sort.

[ksaintdouble]

See, you people fail to see. Warzone doesn't require more work at all. It requires more DOWNTIME that you're not even playing as rounds switch and you're dead. You do NO MORE WORK getting it on Warzone or Execution, just more time not even playing the game.So don't die, then you don't have to wait, see, that takes more skill.

[Spidey008]

I will Sign it. There is no way I'll ever get all my kills during ranked matches. I will be hard enough in Annex.

[U2MOFO]

Some of us have lives, and trying to play Warzone for MONTHS on end if not over a year based on how often we are able to play is not something I want to go through. So I was excited about playing gears again for the first time in a while but after hearing that your kills do not add up in Annex... Im back to Call of Duty 3.

Oh and where is the party system? Thats what we REALLY asked for.... May 17th can not come fast enough.

[Mystery.O]

Some of us have lives, and trying to play Warzone for MONTHS on end if not over a year based on how often we are able to play is not something I want to go through. So I was excited about playing gears again for the first time in a while but after hearing that your kills do not add up in Annex... Im back to Call of Duty 3.

Oh and where is the party system? Thats what we REALLY asked for.... May 17th can not come fast enough.

we will see how gears is ranked once halo 3 comes out, till than who knows, still cant wait for it tho

[Newbzorz]

Some of us have lives, and trying to play Warzone for MONTHS on end if not over a year based on how often we are able to play is not something I want to go through. So I was excited about playing gears again for the first time in a while but after hearing that your kills do not add up in Annex... Im back to Call of Duty 3.

Oh and where is the party system? Thats what we REALLY asked for.... May 17th can not come fast enough.

Then don't get the Seriously. . . achievement!

God damnit, softcore gamers can be so dumb.

[RebelScum]

I think this shows that Multiplayer Ranked achievements are a Bad Idea.

Of course there are going to be some ach wh0res trying to get 1000 on any game. When you force them to do it in Ranked games, it ruins Ranked games for those that just wanna play.

If they were to just allow you to get them in Player Matches, they would all go off into their own corner and boost, but at least they would only be bothering themselves, and nobody else.

I know, I know, this "cheapens" the achivements that you have to "work for." But, y'know what? I'd rather have that, than the cheapened Ranked games we have now because of it.

Doesn't Epic see that all this causes the game to be played in a way that is not the intended way? If they didn't have Ranked achievements, everyone would have just played the game the way it's meant to be played, and we wouldn't have to worry about any of this crap.

The irony here is that I actually thought that part of the reason for them adding this gametype, with respawns, was to make it easier for people to go ahead and attain all the achievements more quickly, so everyone can just get to play the game the way it's meant to be played.

It would be nice if they at least put a notice on Annex letting people know (who do not all check these forums) that when playing this gametype, they will not be earning any achievements. I played several hours last night working on some of the weapon achievements, not knowing that none of it counted.

[motoxguy47]

yeah i registered on this forums just to post here and tell you people how stupid you are saying that it takes more skill to get a kill in war zone or exaction than it does in annex i mean in annex you cant suck and get achievements the same as in war zone you just don't have to sit and wait while your teammate hides because hes the last guy left.....epic you need to make it so we can get achievements in annex including seriously and all the weapon achievements because kills are kills

[Brettmeister]

I would love to see kills counted towards "Seriously..." but come on, EG knew we would be making dumb forums complaining about them not. I doubt they will change it, even though 90% of us (that I know of) want it.

Lucky, well, comitted, rather, people that have gotten or gotten close to all their Achievements don't need to worry about this and they will be the only ones truely enjoying Annex (along with the people that care nothing for Achienements.) I HOPE they change it, as I still need about 6k-7k kills, but they won't. At least not in the near future, I assure you. This new gametype is such a fun experience that I will probably name my first child Annex even though it won't count towards the big 10k.

[Mystery.O]

Then don't get the Seriously. . . achievement!

God damnit, softcore gamers can be so dumb.

so can junior members

[Ik0n]

Who cares.. who whines about an achievement becoming easier.. you kill the same amount of people.. you just don't have to ****n wait for games.

[SofaKingGnarly]

If they let the kills count, the achievments would be worthless as any sign of skill, everyone playing the game would have most, if not all of the weapons and kill achievments inside of a week.

this is BS it takes the same amount of skill to get a kill in Annex as it dose it Warzone. Ture it might take less time. Thats it less time

[Ik0n]

Also, just because people have these achievements... isn't a sign of skill. Most of the kids who seriously that I have played with suck... and run their mouth to no end. Even having Annex count it's still 10,000 kills.. I mean goddamn.

[U2MOFO]

Then don't get the Seriously. . . achievement!

God damnit, softcore gamers can be so dumb.


Softcore? What makes you hardcore? The fact that you do not have a mortgage payment and a family to provide for makes you "Hardcore"...

I enjoy going for achievements..... There is NOTHING wrong with wishing it was reasonable to get for those that do not have 10 hours a day to play.

Damnit.. people who are softcore at life can be so dumb.

[BlackSwordsman01]

I just made an account to vote yes to this. I mean really whats the point of this not counting. A kill is a kill it shouldn't matter what gametype its in. The difficulty of getting kills has not changed just the frequency. This achievement should not be coveted to just warzone/execution players (no one plays assassination) I mean its not like people even care if you have the achievement or not. Its more like a second thought, If I see someone with the achievement I dont automatically think they are good but more that they must play a lot and thats just it you just have to play a lot to get the achievement its not difficult but just takes time.

Not everybody plays it as religiously as other people. So why deprive them of getting achievements as everyone else? I've had the game a little after it came out and I have a little less then 3,000 kills. I do play, lets say avg. person time cause im busy with other things, yes this new mode is fun in its own and I can live without the achievement but the fact stands is that you are depriving the people that find this game mode fun of this achievement. People will be playing this thinking all along hey I might get that achievement faster only to be disappointed.

SERIOUSLY..........its not like making the achievement easier to get is going to piss people off, in fact it probably will INCREASE the amount of people playing. Achievements are great thats why I get them but unless your going to playing the game for at least a couple hours a day for a couple months there is no way your going to get it, cause not only do other games come out to play but people are just generally busy with other things. I really hope you guys actually consider having these kills count.

[SofaKingGnarly]

Your answer lies in the word "achievement." It's a sense of accomplishment that was never tracked in games before. It's not about the score, it's about the recognition. I don't care if other people see it. And not everybody is going to care about achievements. But for those of us who do, we have an opinion. So the question is, why is it so important for you to care what we care about? I ask that question without any hidden aggression or anything of the sort.
oh really so the easy ones on Guitar Hero are real accomplishment for watching the credits on failing a song on Easy or break out prison level in gears of war. Wow I really felt like I did something there.

[SofaKingGnarly]

I mean its not like people even care if you have the achievement or not. Its more like a second thought, If I see someone with the achievement I dont automatically think they are good but more that they must play a lot and thats just it you just have to play a lot to get the achievement its not difficult but just takes time.


THANK YOU having 10,000 kills means nothing it means you had the time to play the game more then me. ( I have only had it a month)

[rpepi]

heres my opinion on all of this... anyone who plays games that have you keep spawning should know this too... the fact that you keep spawning makes death mean nothing, i like it so i dont need to hear a biunch of whining locusts for 5 minutes waiting for the new match to start.... my opinion is that if every one keeps spawning, you have a bigger chance of dieing while going after someone because the amount of players rarely ever wavers. kills may meen nothing, and since they dont, hosts set bleedout all the way up, and leave people down to bleed for 30 seconds, get up, active reload sniper or anything else, bleed for 30 secs, rinse, lather, repeat... it makes the game dull, and not fun at all

[rpepi]

THANK YOU having 10,000 kills means nothing it means you had the time to play the game more then me. ( I have only had it a month) i second that... that may meen someone who has the acheivement sux, and plays all day, or way too much... seriously... acheivement doesnt have to always be about skill... many times its about time.

[HyperWiz]

Softcore? What makes you hardcore? The fact that you do not have a mortgage payment and a family to provide for makes you "Hardcore"...

I enjoy going for achievements..... There is NOTHING wrong with wishing it was reasonable to get for those that do not have 10 hours a day to play.

Damnit.. people who are softcore at life can be so dumb.


Nice one. I was saying that the achievement asked people to kill 10k opponents in Rank matches, and yet, when I go to play aank game in Annex, it does not allow that!

They shouldn't change the rule. I too, don't have 10 hours on my hand, unlike those people who have rich parents or what-not.


The achievements are for a bit of added fun, not a competition!

Signed by HyperWiz.
:\

[chaostheory0982]

I want to play Annex but their really is no point. So I won't play it. I hope Epic changes this, but I don't think they will, which is unfortunate.

[Mystery.O]

so much for listening to their fans i guess.

[Black Asgard]

oi! make 'em count!

[SUICIDALS0ULJA]

I would like this, or if not atleast make warzone and execution kills count for seriously in player matches, because the only reason i play online in most games is to have fun with my friends while picking up achievements, but the lack of party system or ability to find each other in ranked matches puts me off since i hate playing with people that i don't know - because a minority of them (which i always happen to run in to) are complete ****s.

[Bigsam]

Yea mate i agree i know that people play for fun, but they are the people that suck and we never used to have achievements and we played because it was the only thing to play but now we do have achievements we want to exploit them in any way possible. The achievements were u need 100 kills are pointless as people just set up achievements matches and stuff like that and so i dont see how keeping kills out of annex will render them or seriously for that matter pointless. i think there should be kills in annex.

[Bootleg Zani]

It does suck that the weapon achievements don't work in Ranked Annex matches but oh well. I just got over 100 chainsaw kills after last night and realized it didn't unlock the achievement.

[stlsfinest]

honestly i understand why epic diddnt make the kills in annex count. It would be way too easy. When i first heard that they diddnt count i was super pissed cuz i had wasted like 2 weeks of my like playing annex, i had nearly 4000 kills in annex with nothing to show for it. Im over it now i just wish epic would tell gamers this stuff in game, not everyone hangs on these forums all day.

[sl00p]

Annex is for people who play for fun and want to relax...unlike achievement FREAKS who play until they sweat blood.

[Tebbs]

I'm not an achievement freak, I'm just a casual gamer who just reckons having 100 kills with a particular weapon would be cool. I like playing Annex as it means I can play a whole game, not spend half the time watching other people play. I don't see any reason why kills shouldn't be counted, it takes just the same amount of skill.

[xCURTISx]

It's too easy to get it in Annex?

There's still ****loads of bullet lag in everygame, there's still ****loads of glitchers in everygame.

Annex is more fun than any other gametype, but for someone that wants to get their 1000 out of Gears, Epic ****erd up on this one.

[Speedy34]

If they let the kills count, the achievments would be worthless as any sign of skill, everyone playing the game would have most, if not all of the weapons and kill achievments inside of a week.
Regardless of the game, achivements are worthless if they are not yours. I don't care what achivements you or anyone else have. Only my achivements mean anything to me. Achivements are relative to the person getting them. Some people are satisfied by boosting to get them others prefer to obtain them 'honestly'. While I hate boosters and glitchers, they can have their achivements and 'earn' them as they see fit. And the same goes for everyone else.
I think that the kills should count in Annex for one reason and one reason only.
The definition of the Achievement is to obtain 10000 kills in a ranked match.
Annex has a Ranked playlist. Therefore the kills should count.
Or, they should update the definition of any achivements on XBL to include the caveat that Annex kills don't count.

[xCURTISx]

1. - Your still playing with randoms.
2. - Whats different from killing someone in Annex from Warzone or any other. Less bullets?
3. - You still get bullet lagged to hell.
4. - Theres still hella loads of glitchers.

There's hardly a difference between playing Annex and playing Raven down in Warzone. People even stay alive longer than Warzone because it's an objective based game. People don't go around hunting others to finish the round. There more likely to sit on the pad and get the score up. Then the oposition attack them from what weapons they sieze.

There's hardly a difference when you think of it, It's just Epic being picky as5.

[Fred_Perry]

So apparently the achievement isn't based on getting 10,000 kills. Its based on going through the boring times sitting between each round in warzone?

You don't have to go through the boring times sitting between each round, if you don't die, that is.

[xCURTISx]

You don't have to go through the boring times sitting between each round, if you don't die, that is.

It's kind of hard when the host kills you in less than afew seconds...

[KoViLuX]

no way this takes away from everything that everyone else has worked for. pointless for some to get the achievement in a game mode with respawns. I didn't have it that easy join everyone else & work for your kills

[Fred_Perry]

It's kind of hard when the host kills you in less than afew seconds...

Host gets achievements more easily than everybody else? Renders achievements even more pointless, IMHO.

[KoViLuX]

everyone complains about host i suggest host your own games. I personally don't have a problem killing host i will say that sometimes it is harder just depends on lag.

[Fred_Perry]

So apparently the achievement isn't based on getting 10,000 kills. Its based on going through the boring times sitting between each round in warzone?

They should have made it a "earn x victories" team-based achievement. People would be less bored between rounds.

[Quiefosaurus]

Waaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! I'm an achievement whore! Waaaaaah! I wan't to take the easy way out to get seriously! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I can't grasp the concept of playing just to have fun! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Booooooo Hoooooooo!


Go home.

[Manks21]

Waaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! I'm an achievement whore! Waaaaaah! I wan't to take the easy way out to get seriously! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I can't grasp the concept of playing just to have fun! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Booooooo Hoooooooo!


Go home.

That was odd.

[Sherminator]

That was odd.

Yes but strangely, I understood every word and agree 100%.

[Manks21]

Yes but strangely, I understood every word and agree 100%.

I understood it too, but it was just, well... odd.

[Mercenary KG]

Why don't you get Seriously... normally. I did.

[stlsfinest]

when i say it would be to easy i mean the time required for the achievement is way shorter even an average player can get 30-40 kills in a game of annex provided they dont play raven down off host.I agree it takes the same amount of skill to get a kill in annex it just doesnt take nearly as long as warzone or execution.

[Speedy34]

no way this takes away from everything that everyone else has worked for. pointless for some to get the achievement in a game mode with respawns. I didn't have it that easy join everyone else & work for your kills

Don't you get it? Are you that misguided? No one cares how easy or tough you think you have/had it. Your achivements and how you got them mean zero to me and mean zero to everyone else on this board.
EPIC simply needs to follow the what the wording of the achievment says or re-word the requirements of the achievment.

[Xx SACHA xX]

It would be far too easy, I got 55 kills in a three round match, when I get in average 10-12 kills in warzone. Four times faster.
Yep, this would help a lot of people, but the Seriously achievement wouldn't be this challenge which now motivates a large number of players.
Hey, I'm French, I Hope I said that right !!!! (>")> ---* HeAdsHot

[{SM}LeadSniper]

no no no no! no and no again!
let me crunch some numbers for ya.
1 respawn is 15 secs
1 player can get 16 kills a min
960 an hour
seriously in 10.2 hours

again i say NO!!!

[Super dale]

In my first game of annex I got 100 kills. I broke 74 in a warzone, ONCE. And it seems near inpossible to do, and it was a very intense game. In most annex games I break 40 easy in 3 rounds. It took me sooo long to get seriously that I don't want others to be able to get it in annex, go to warzone, assasination, or execution like everyone else before you did.

[SnipeHappy]

uuuh no its not, too eays to get kills in annex...

just play warzone and earn it like everyone else. if you want "seriously" so bad then get serious about it...

[D34TH 5H0T]

It doesn't really matter to me. (I already have it, so I'm not using this as an excuse to get it faster).

[Almighty Claude]

You could get seriously in just a few weeks if they did. They would rather laugh at everyone spending all their time going for a number.

[Davidius]

The fact that a lot of achievements can't be obtained in Annex is what makes it relatively pure in that it isn't littered with "ACHIEVEMENT MATCH LOLOLOLOL". It would kind of ruin the fun. Which reminds me, play the game for fun. Don't just milk it for useless points for your GS and throw it away. :/

[SnipeHappy]

Some of us have lives, and trying to play Warzone for MONTHS on end if not over a year based on how often we are able to play is not something I want to go through. So I was excited about playing gears again for the first time in a while but after hearing that your kills do not add up in Annex... Im back to Call of Duty 3.

Oh and where is the party system? Thats what we REALLY asked for.... May 17th can not come fast enough.

lol i love that term. "Some of us have lives...", well if you did then why do you care about an achievement so much?

lol i love this topic, so much complaining "Oh guys I have a life but I want seriously so bad...MAKE ANNEX KILLS COUNT ITS JUST NOT FAIR!"

i'm sick of this whining about annex kills not counting.

you want the achievement? you work for it. no shortcuts. end of story.

[smith7391]

what if they had an acheivement that's called "Lazily Serious" or something like that and you would get it when you would reach 10k kills in Annex :D i know its stupid but just throwin it out there. :rolleyes:

[carmine-405]

i sign here only because kids who hav seriously are rarely better than me and they dont deserve it, kids think they're god with it until i kick their ass but then they say "im not tryin, but why are you talkin' without seriously" hmmmmmm b/c i do hav a life an im simply better............ I SIGN HERE(for the sole reason it shuld b skill invovled not time involved) BUT I THINK NOT IN ANNEX, i sign for a diff way like mayb respawns in warzone idk jus sumthing to make it more for people with skill than people with time, even though idk how that wuld be done

[M00NBEAST]

I would have to STRONGLY disagree with this petition. A lot of players only want Annex kills to count towards achievements so they can get with their friends and rack up the kills without the game ever ending.

A HUGE, resounding HELL NO to this one.

[Grizza]

Sign me up, personally, if they say you kill 10, 000 people in ranked matches and you get Seriously, then you should get it. Same with weapon achievements. Unless stated otherwise, you should get it. Don't get me wrong I love Annex just for the game, but they tell you that you cannot get the achievements in player matches, so why not? Honestly, it shouldn't matter. Think about how many games have NOT made their online achievements ONLY ranked? I have at least 3 and I only own 4 games. not counting the Xbox Live Arcade.


you want the achievement? you work for it. no shortcuts. end of story

Ever since the Seriously glitch came out, think about all the people who did it. I think working for it is over. Make the Annex kills count.

[xBIGWIGx]

Do not make the Annex kills count. Annex rooms are some of the few places where you don't have to worry about glitchers and boosters.... as much. Counting Annex kills would ruin the gametype and turn it into a boosters heaven. No thank you.

[twitchie]

Annex was a horrible idea in the first place. My opinion anyways. =/

[Eternalnow]

Why does everyone care so much about achievements? Do they make you cooler? Do they give you some false sense of accomplishment? Do they get you "in" with the ladies? Does they open up the realms of knowledge about the universe or about your life?

Really, what is it because to me they are just 0's and 1's.

[carmine-405]

i think respawn option in warzone and that's it..... look i dont mind because im at 16,782 kills with no achievement(i never quit either) so hopefully its comin soon, but u kno wut epic says no kills count in annex becasue it would be too easy well **** them because even when u get ur kills legitly u dont get ur achievement... epic better ****in fix this somehow...

[Erf90]

What does it matter its just and achievement. You don't get any money for it. You just get a few points towards your gamerscore which has no reflection on the players skill anyway

[Batch86]

Listen... the kills from annex definitely shouldn't count. At first I thought "That's Bull *BLAM!*" but if you think about it... it's only fair. First of all, in the original 3 gametypes it takes WAY more skill to get your kills than it does in annex. I only say this because at the beginning of each round everyone starts with the same weapons and you have to work to get others (if you desire) and you have to inevitably (sp) prevent your opponents from getting all of the power weapons. This is a new struggle each round, and good players don't just die all the time (so I'm not sure why people are constantly complaining that there is so much downtime in these matches). With annex things are different. A good group of four can *win* the initial push to dominate the board and from there on out it's domination. Whoever gets the longshot can possess it for 30 minutes at a time, just dominating the other team. This goes for the boomshot and the like. At this point when the map is already dominated, the team could ignore actually caring about annex and keep slaughtering the other team. That's not what's meant to happen in order to get your 10,000 kills for the achievement. By all means be proud when/if you do earn 10,000 kills via annex because it's a great accomplishment, but it just isn't what the developers wanted their achievement to mean. It takes so much more skill round in and round out of the other three gametypes to earn Seriously!, and that's why it is coveted by those who have earned it AND those who strive for it.

[SK Revel]

Who cares what their first thought is, Annex kills are never going to count. If they want to whine and complain, proof that they're admitting they're not good and/or patient enough to get the achievements like the rest of us then so be it. Probably a bunch of minors anyway, immature enough to absolutely NEED achievements and immature enough to whine about how they're unable to get them easier.

[Eternalnow]

Hmm...

Counting kills in a game type where you can re-spawn would make no sense at all. Players would just camp by spawn and kill each enemy as they re-spawned.
What would be the point?

[{SM}LeadSniper]

in raven down it would only take 10.2 hours to get seriously.
fair?
i think not. can a mod please close this thread already.

[carmine-405]

look i agree seriously shuld be a hard achievement, even though its debateable that people with seriously aren't always good just that they have extra time on their hands, but anyway i dont think annex kills shuld count but i mean how can people talk about the need for an achievement to be fair when i hav 16,758 kills and no achievement and **** i never quit... oh an u cant say "if u think seriously is for kids without lives, then how do u how a life complaining about an achievement" because that is completely irrelevant, the want for an achievement is equivalent for the want for a trophy, its the simple pleasure of havin a reminder of what u hav ACHIEVED

[carmine-405]

oh and for all u haters who cant come back to that, i dont care that i use comp slang so i dont wanna see any ****ers hatin on my lack of typin things out, it doesn't change that im right

[Mindcrime450]

If they did this, then warzone and execution would die out, and personally i like warzone better than annex. So this way people play all 4 game types.
So annex kills don't count? Are u serious? Other*original achievements like boomshot kills and frags kills count cos I got a couple while playing annexion games... Plz u have to count them!