UC2 misses BC Update once again... [Archive]

snoogans460

12-13-2006, 07:31 PM

:mad:

Well, the new Backwards Compatibility Update List has been officially released, and yep... no UC2 or even UC has been confirmed. Shafted once again dang nabit! So much for the letter I wrote the BC Team. I'm fully aware that the emulation process for these games are hard-work - but it's also absurd when bargain-bin trash like Aquaman are given the green light.

New Backwards Compatible Titles:

All Star Baseball 2005
Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Dead Or Alive Ultimate
Destroy All Humans!
Dynasty Warriors 4 / Shin Sangokumuso3
Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick
Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy
Family Guy
Far Cry: Instincts
Incredibles/ Mr. Incredible (J)
I-Ninja
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna *** Laude
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
MotoGP
MX Unleashed
Open Season
Pariah
Psychonauts
Rainbow Six: Lockdown
Rapala Pro Fishing
Scarface
Shark Tale
Shemue II
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
Ultimate Spiderman
Wakeboarding Unleashed: Featuring Sean Murray
Whacked!
Winback 2: Project Poseidon
Xiaolin Showdown

Updated Titles:

Burnout 3: Takedown"

Heavenz Night

12-13-2006, 08:32 PM

yeah i saw :(

this game UC1 and Wolf are the ONLY reasons i still have my original xbox

i would totally love playing uc2 with the new controller and higher res

snoogans460

12-13-2006, 08:45 PM

yeah i saw :(

this game UC1 and Wolf are the ONLY reasons i still have my original xbox

i would totally love playing uc2 with the new controller and higher res

WOLF???

Yep, new control scheme and 1080i sounds good to me. Keep prayin' that one day somebody will listen.

Netsurfer733

12-13-2006, 08:55 PM

Disappointing :( ...

...but it will come, worry not :) In any case, there is still hope for the UC franchise.... ;)

ThePigster

12-14-2006, 04:18 AM

Too bad. I would love to play UC2 with a 360 controller. The regular Xbox controller feels alien to me now.

hypnotic

12-14-2006, 08:31 AM

wolfenstien, UC, UC2 are only the 3 most skillful games to be re released on the xbox. are microsoft irish??? cus they doing things backwards. like wtf barbie is backwards compatible..........

Alckatraz

12-14-2006, 05:56 PM

This is a lost cause .... if they bothered with Xaolin Showdown, Family Guy, and Fistful of Boomstick, then all the popular games are done I gueess

snoogans460

12-14-2006, 09:37 PM

Pariah's an Epic Game if I'm not mistaken - or Digital Extremes. Heck, Pariah was actually released around the same time (two weeks later) as UC2. I only played the demo though.

ez_jamin

12-14-2006, 09:49 PM

Pariah's an Epic Game if I'm not mistaken - or Digital Extremes. Heck, Pariah was actually released around the same time (two weeks later) as UC2. I only played the demo though.

I belive it was also running on the same engine Uc used.. maybe thats a bit of hope for one of the series.

ShredPrince

12-15-2006, 12:18 AM

snoogans460

12-15-2006, 08:18 AM

Nah I belive Pariah was also UE2.x

At very least it's what some of us call UE 3.5. The more updated version used for UC/UT2kx.Games like splinter cell and swat, that had normal mapping funtionality, and water pixel shaders etc.

???!!!:eek:

Shred has RETURNED!

ez_jamin

12-15-2006, 08:20 AM

Malakai

12-15-2006, 12:56 PM

Pariah, Unreal Championship 1, and Unreal 2 ran on the Unreal Engine 2.5. Unreal Championship 2 ran on an engine specific to the Xbox called Unreal Engine 2X. Now, Unreal Engine 3 is what Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 2007 runs on. So I don't know where anyone got the idea of an Unreal Engine 3.5.

joeGraf

12-15-2006, 01:54 PM

Nah I belive Pariah was also UE2.x

It wasn't. It was the UC code with additions made by DE.

I am emailing MS *again* about the status of our BC effort. Sigh.

ThePigster

12-15-2006, 02:49 PM

It wasn't. It was the UC code with additions made by DE.

I am emailing MS *again* about the status of our BC effort. Sigh.

Thanks joe. Maybe MS will take it into consideration more now since Epic has gone above and beyond helping 360 and XBL sales with GoW. Maybe they should be reminded of that.;)

ShredPrince

12-15-2006, 03:27 PM

Well Jammin was correct.I just thought I saw something saying that UC2 an PAriah were UE2x

OakCoast

12-15-2006, 04:34 PM

UC2 will be the only other game I play besides Gears of War.....Maybe....I luv gears :D

Vickissv3

12-15-2006, 07:17 PM

Well i do see this update as some progress to possibly having it in the next update. At least we now know that MS didnt give you on BC

snoogans460

12-15-2006, 08:20 PM

Well, considering that the last BC Update was in August and the latest hit in December... then, the next one should be in April - possibly for UC2's 2nd Anniversary. Gee, can't wait for another four months (sigh)... maybe I'll play some Aquaman in the meantime.

Acid Phase

12-15-2006, 08:41 PM

Wow...this update sucks big time. I'm itching to use the 360 controller on this game. If any unreal title were to be playable on the 360....I would be on that so fast. Ah well.....there's always Gears of War.

Netsurfer733

12-15-2006, 08:56 PM

It wasn't. It was the UC code with additions made by DE.

I am emailing MS *again* about the status of our BC effort. Sigh.

WOOT ty Joe :D

We should hope that they at least have it on their lists of things to do!!

ShredPrince

12-15-2006, 09:34 PM

Winback and aquaman, but no UC2.....???

When I worked at EB we had this copy of Aquaman that never even moved from it's spot cause people would'nt even pick it up to look at it.I was in ther the other day, like two years later, and it's still has not moved an inch....WTF!!!

THey had no copies of UC2 in stock.

Netsurfer733

12-16-2006, 12:25 AM

They generally don't do these based on what games will be bought more as a result, I heard a while ago. It's much more based on how easily the software can switch graphics chips. So since UC2 is one of the more graphically intense games on xbox, and since it was probably subject to intense coding, it is probably a bit harder to use :P

Just pray that it gets done before 2008! THEN I might get...well, aggrivated :(

PS-For that matter, joeGraf, did you guys ever send them a complete document of the coding for UC2? At least as a handy 'handbook'? Might make all the difference to them...

ShredPrince

12-16-2006, 02:12 AM

Sounds right to me.....probaly means it might still be a long time coming.

hypnotic

12-16-2006, 07:13 AM

if UC came that wud be good enough. im hooked on pro evolution :)

Ultamisia

12-16-2006, 01:25 PM

well good luck with that endevor! i've send tons of e-mails to MS about ANY of the unreal titles to be BC ..but they rather put a barbie game instead....i just dont understand them...

Netsurfer733

12-16-2006, 04:27 PM

Ult, read up a 3 or 4 posts to understand ^^ :D

snoogans460

12-16-2006, 06:02 PM

Ult, read up a 3 or 4 posts to understand ^^ :D

I understand, but also don't. After all, who in their right mind plays Barbie's Adventures anyway?:rolleyes:

Acid Phase

12-16-2006, 06:18 PM

That and "Yourself Fitness" (From the first update):rolleyes:

Netsurfer733

12-16-2006, 08:55 PM

What other explanation can there be besides that the games' engines/coding/whatever were just easy to change?

That's why I'm...somewhat...patient about UC2 :) It'll happen when it happens, hard to rush (though possible)

Retodon8

12-17-2006, 09:16 PM

I'm not sure who it was, someone from Epic, presumable also Joe, who mentioned Microsoft told him it would be BC soon.
I'm sooner thankful he told us in return, it's not his fault, but MS never should have said that to Epic if they didn't mean it.
Perhaps they've been working on it a lot, simply having lots of difficulties, but who knows!

ThePigster

12-17-2006, 09:24 PM

I don't remember that. Perhaps if you could provide a link?

ShredPrince

12-18-2006, 01:08 AM

SubCog

12-18-2006, 02:13 AM

in terms of barbie adventures, the reason that some less popular games get bc before popular games is that many games run on the same middleware, or 3d engines.

It's likely that barbie adventures runs on the same engine that several more popular games do, and that in getting them running, barbie adventure works too.

I highly doubt that someone at m$ said, "put all of our resources into getting barbie adventures working!!! It's a high priority!"

The other thing is that while many games make modifications to the engine to suit the particular game, barbie adventures probably has no modifications, meaning that once m$ got working emulation for that engine, barbie was one of the first games to run perfectly on it, and then m$ had to go and adjust the emulation for the other games that modified the engine.

Retodon8

12-18-2006, 07:39 AM

ThePigster, I searched the forums for "backwards compatible" (or maybe it was "-bility"), and found a few relevant threads.
(It's also possible to search for every post by any member, but Joe's been pretty busy it seems. :) )
Like I mentioned, I couldn't quite remember, but apparently I was right about it anyway.
See this thread (http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=550167), this one is the one I was remembering (http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=550050), and see this one (http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?p=24613205) too.

B.S:rolleyes:

Uhm, I just checked, and you posted in that thread your very self, even after JoeGraf mentioned what I was referring to.
How can you "BS" that??? :rolleyes:

ThePigster

12-18-2006, 01:07 PM

Oh ok. Thanks for the links. It appears Joe Graf did say BC is on the way and with high priority. But it looks like that was delayed. I think MS is saving the hard games for last. We may get UC2 backwards compatable by the time the next Xbox comes out. :(

Vickissv3

01-22-2007, 05:35 AM

Hey lets not let this issue die. I know that becoming BC will indeed give the game a second wind online. Not saying that its dead or anything

ThePigster

01-22-2007, 07:59 AM

b/c would do wonders for the game online. I know of alot of UC2 players that traded their xbox for a 360 or had their xbox die, but got a 360 instead of a new one. And I know alot more people would have mics online.

One thing that bothers me about Microsoft and their backwards compatability plan is if they are doing games that use the same game engines first, then why did they do Doom 3, but not Doom 3:RoE? And also, why did they do the Splinter Cells, and not UC, since I thought they all ran on the UE2 engine?

hypnotic

01-22-2007, 10:21 AM

microsoft are jankers, bringin out a half done console. Wii kicks its arse. but yeh uc2 shud be made b/c over a next gears of war. easily.

snoogans460

01-22-2007, 08:15 PM

I agree that a Backwards Compatible UC2 would definitely breath some much needed life into our community - even though the recent OXM article on BC would say otherwise. Basically, an Xbox Executive said that Halo 2 is being played... and then there's a chasm with a lot of chirpping crickets.

Supposedly Microsoft has roughly 10 extremely talented programmers handling the BC issue, but only for a little while longer. It'll definitely reach a point when they'll say enough is enough. Personally, seeing UC2 make the list would be fantastic, but then again, does it really matter anymore?

I mean, the original Xbox is perfect for playing my original Xbox games, and the same can ultimately be said for next-gen stuff. The whole BC ordeal is more a psychological one than anything else. People just enjoy knowing it's there and that Microsoft is living up to its promises, rather than actually using this feature.

I simply don't understand why people part with their own consoles anyhow? Certainly I can understand money issues, but if that dnero is being used to upgrade to a new system - then what's the point? I suppose in many cases hardware failure is another occurrence.

Either way, they do make an effort to emulate as many titles as possible, and the whole game engine familiarity is a big reason why particular games make the cut while others don't. All in all, I'm not going to fault Microsoft for this BC dilemma - since it's more trivial than anything else. Personally, I knew full well from the start they weren't wholly committed to this issue.

Anyhow, this doesn't necessarily make the Xbox more inferior to other consoles. To me, the 360 is definitely leaps and bounds ahead of the competition at the moment. Hypnotic, the Wii is an awsome system, but the controls are more a novelty than anything else. Plus, the games are aimed towards a younger demographic and the system doesn't even support HD. That seems more lacking than anything the 360 can offer.

ThePigster

01-23-2007, 10:42 AM

I care about the b/c thing. I would love to not have to switch the ethernet cable from my Xbox to 360(vise versa) and power cycle the modem when ever I want to play UC2. And I could play on MY Live account that I bought on the 360, and not my roommates. And then therre's the $60 wireless headset I bought for the 360. Not to mention that the 360 controller is way better than the Xbox controller.

And there's no doubt in my mind that more people would play UC2 if it was b/c simply because of the inconviences of using the Xbox when they have a 360. I don't know how many times I wanted to play UC2, but I didn't because I didn't feel like messing with cables and playing on my roommates account.

hypnotic

01-23-2007, 03:55 PM

uc2 owns the 360 though

Netsurfer733

01-23-2007, 04:54 PM

...a game owns an entire system now? lol

Vickissv3

01-24-2007, 04:26 AM

well in what way can we as members of the UC2 gaming community do to ensure that UC2 makes the cut for the next list. If Psychonauts can do it , im positive UC2 can since it is the higher rated game?

so should we try to pester MS about it Epic??

ez_jamin

01-24-2007, 05:26 AM

...a game owns an entire system now? lol

Yep. Always has done and always will do.

hypnotic

01-24-2007, 07:46 AM

in the case of the xbox 360, yes a few games from is predecessor(sp) own that console. sure theres some good games. but lets take it to amount of skill needed. Gears Of War < UC,UC2,RTCW,CS. that is the best clan game on 360 and imo them 4 games were better.

AdZ

02-02-2007, 03:57 PM

heh i brought uc2 recently...but i only have a 360 to play it on tho!
So yea, i hope they add support for it soon cuz i been lookin forward to playin this for awhile :)

ShredPrince

02-02-2007, 04:34 PM

Just wait 'till I get a 360, then you'll see the typical hellbent Shred on the "BC" for UC2 issue as well.

snoogans460

02-03-2007, 09:15 AM

I just don't understand something? If people can afford $400 and upwards for a 360... then what's a measly $100 dollar investment for an original Xbox?

ThePigster

02-03-2007, 11:21 AM

I just got the new OXM, and there's an article about backwards compatabilty. They say that MS is still making titles b/c, but claim that a really small percentage of people want their games favorite games b/c.

Interestingly enough, they said that they had their doubts about Slinter Cell:CT being b/c because the game pushed the xbox1 to it's limits, but in the end, not only did they make it b/c, but they improved the framerate by 50%. Can imagine if UC2 was b/c and had an increased framerate? That'd be so frickin sweet.

They also quoted some douchbag game-industry analyst that said "The loudest people don't necessarily reflect the masses. People don't play games they bought two or three years ago. When you buy a game, you either finish the damn thing or you don't. And if you don't, you never intended to".

Yeah, first of all, what about all the games that came out within the last 2 years? UC2 hasn't hit 2 years yet, and I'm still much into it. Halo 2 is over 2 years now, and how many people still play it? This so called game-industry analyst must no be a gamer, or he'd understand that nostalgia and loyalty to our favorite titles is a big thing to a number of gamers. And maybe he's never played online against people, because that'll add loads of life to a game.

Another interesting part was the Microsoft "director of global platform marketing" said that the only game worth making b/c was Halo 2, and not many people want to play anything else from the Xbox1. Well, Maybe Halo 2 is the single most played Xbox1 Live game, but if you take all the people that play all the other Xbox1 games and add them up, does that come close to the number of people on Halo 2? I'm willing to bet it does.

AdZ

02-04-2007, 02:14 AM

I just don't understand something? If people can afford $400 and upwards for a 360... then what's a measly $100 dollar investment for an original Xbox?

i brought uc2 2nd hand only cuz it was cheap so no way am i going to fork out $100 for a original xbox just to play it duh!
& not everyone is made of money, even if they can afford a 360 people save up.

Anyway... UC2 should be doable seen as splinter cell uses the unreal engine and has already been b/c`d.

Acid Phase

02-04-2007, 11:14 AM

The 360 was an investment well spent on my part. I was saving up for a long time to buy it. The games are quite good. The upcoming games however are worth waiting for.

I do not need my UC2 fix that bad. Why would I ever cough up $100 for a lost cause? It just doesn't make sense to go back just for one game, even if you are a big fan or not. That's just my opinion though.

ThePigster

02-04-2007, 11:55 AM

I wasn't about to sell my xbox. There are so many good games I haven't played yet on it.

AdZ

02-04-2007, 04:24 PM

Once ut3 arrives all our problems will be answered (unless you only own a original xbox) lol ;P

ShredPrince

02-04-2007, 09:11 PM

I don't own any cosoles, yet I still manage somehow.Firends help alot.I sold my Xbox a long arse time ago wile UC2 was stilll pretty hot.

snoogans460

02-05-2007, 02:12 AM

Okay, I can understand that people have purchased a 360 to move-on with next-gen stuff. Fine, understandable.

Maybe my view is coming from a collector's perspective, but I absolutely refuse to part with any of my video game consoles, games, or memorabilia. To me, there's memories attached to every game - not to mention, I've spent a lot of time, effort, and moola into this hobby.

Furthermore, I'm not trying to come across as Mr. Moneybucks when I said a measly $100 dollars. I was simply trying to state that affording an original Xbox is basically nothing, when comparing to the investment of 360 merchandise. Sheesh, I'm still in debt myself because of launch day.

Anyhow, UC2 is definitely worth owning an original Xbox for... if only for that reason alone. Also like Pigster mentioned, that console has a ton of other fantastic games. Simply put, I'll never get rid of classics just to move-on.

ShredPrince

02-05-2007, 03:40 AM

I'm with ya sorta snoogs, but as soon as UC2 does go BC Xbox is basically totally useless.

AdZ

02-05-2007, 04:56 AM

@snoogans
Personally I brought UC2 because im a huge fan of all the unreal tournament`s on PC (ut2k4= my fav) and wanted to add UC2 to my almost complete unreal collection. Ive never owned a original xbox and never will because i see no point in buying a old console for one old game, especially when the chances are very high the 360 will support it eventually anyway (same goes for other xbox titles), that would be a big waste of money and really stupid on my part.. M$ already stated they are trying to get all original games B/C`d. So buying a xbox now would be just so wrong, unless your a hardcore collector of some sort then i understand, but for just playing one game defintaly not, no way.

I take it you own a 360 so you should be aware that the prices of all 360 games/harware is getting alot cheaper now despite what you said about "comparing to the investment of 360 merchandise" ect, most of first 360 games released have now dropped in price drastically, for $100 i could easily get 3-4 games. As an example UC2 cost me 20 euros 2nd hand, Perfect dark zero cost me less than that brand new. So the price of 360 merchandise isnt as high as what you are implying and does not justify purchasing a xbox for just one game.

I understand others have more original games & in that respect what you say makes sense, but for me it definalty does not.

snoogans460

02-05-2007, 09:55 AM

Hey totally understandable guys. For some people, it just makes sense not to own something that you probably won't get much use out of. Then again, I should probably adhere to my own advice, since I rarely play most of my games. As mentioned previously though, I enjoy having my collection for the sake of knowing it's always readily available. There's days when a little taste of nostalgia goes a long way.

SythVenom

02-05-2007, 11:57 AM

i can agree with you snoogans. I collect games. So I personally will like to have all the systems. There are a lot of GOLD titles that are a must to keep. And honestly I can understand if people don't want to get an xbox for one game. But I don't think I can trust microsoft in making these games b/c. They should have done this in the first place. So I myself is content with the original, becuase hey, all the games work.

ThePigster

02-05-2007, 12:13 PM

snoogans460

02-06-2007, 02:57 AM

AdZ, you bought UC2 and never played it?

I wouldn't hold your breath about UC2 being b/c. I want it as much as anyone, but the parts from the article I posted aren't very reassuring to me. You may need an Xbox1 to play UC2. Personlly, I can't believe you didn't get one a while ago, before the 360 was made. It's an outstanding console, and it has alot of great games. You're waithing until the good games are b/c, but microsoft is lagging on the b/c thing. They do what, like 5-10 new b/c games every 3 months? And they are even saying people don't want b/c, so how long until they stop doing it all together?

I hate missing out on good games, especially because I'm too cheap to buy a system. I'm slapping myself now for ever selling my PS1 games.

My thoughts exactly.;)

Ya know, even if UC2 does manage to slide onto the BC list, there's absolutely no guarantee it's going to work properly due to the emulation process. Many of the backwards compatible games have already been subject to frame-rate slowdowns, graphical glitches, jacked online features, and flat-out crashes.

However, in a few rare cases it might actually work better - such is the case with Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, where it actually boasts a 50 percent frame-rate improvement. These programming guys are talented beyond what we gamers give them credit for. Finding their way into each game's source code to rewrite these bits by hand is extremely difficult - yet, they manage to pull-off micro-code with relative ease.

With that being the case, the original Xbox will most likely give UC2 justice, where-as, the 360 version is going to be more prone to technical issues.

AdZ

02-06-2007, 07:23 AM

AdZ, you bought UC2 and never played it?.

Nope i havent played it yet unfortunatly and i guess i may never get chance to if M$ dont pull their fingers out and b/c it soon.

Theres a few good reasons i never bothered with the xbox, at that time i was heavily into PC gaming and modding (still am to an extent). Some good multiplatform games were coming out on both systems but considering my PC is much more powerful than a xbox, there was no point in getting a xbox because its a fact id never play it.
Also Pc games were and still are cheaper than console games and depending if you got a good rig a pc will play games much better than a xbox.. not to mention community made mods and maps give PC games the ultimate edge over any console.
But the main reason i never bothered with xbox was there are many great games you simply cannot get on a xbox (or 360) that are only on PC, & alot of those games are my personal favourite games of all time.. games like unreal tournament 2004, counter-strike:source, battlefield 1942, WarHammer 40000 Dawn Of War, NWN`s, empire earth`s, warcraft`s and many more that have never graced any console (due to the consoles hardware constraints/limitations back then), and truthfully i never once saw any exclusive xbox game that made me want to buy one, I was too much into pc`s to care and most "exclusive" xbox games came out or are coming to pc anyway (some with the added bonus of editing tools)

Times changed so I brought a 360 as my pc was starting to fall behind and of the 2, a 360 works out alot cheaper than a new PC.
I own a few xbox 1 games now like jade empire, halo 2, ninja gaiden black and ultimate spiderman, all brought 2nd hand cheap and i made sure they was already b/c`d before i got them. These were the only xbox games i was slightly intrested in playing due to hype but unfortunatly they didnt quite live up to my expectations.
UC2 was a different story, me being a ut nut i just have to try it even tho it was a very hard game to find over here id been hanging on for it just incase it showed up and one day last week it popped up in a shop so i made the decision to buy it then just incase id never get that chance again.

I realise it may not get b/c`d which if it doesnt im not going to lose any sleep over it, i`ll simply sell it on again and wait patiently for ut3. :)

ShredPrince

02-06-2007, 09:02 AM

Ninja Gaiden is da shizzle,wish I could find black....

snoogans460

02-06-2007, 11:10 AM

I just saw NG Black at Best Buy fairly recently for only $20 bucks. I'd recommend BB or Ebay.

SythVenom

02-06-2007, 11:24 AM

it's the best action adventure game for the xbox. But some may say different. To me....it takes a lot of skill.

AdZ

02-06-2007, 01:19 PM

yea my fav xbox game out of the few i have is ninja gaiden black, its the only game ive completed from the original xbox games i have.. certainly was a challenge! reminds me alot like devil may cry. gg`s.

Edit: another game im always on the look out for thats been b/c`d is, Mortal Kombat Armegeddon, looks like a excellent fighting game.

ThePigster

02-06-2007, 02:56 PM

Edit: another game im always on the look out for thats been b/c`d is, Mortal Kombat Armegeddon, looks like a excellent fighting game.

No, Soul Caliber 2 is an excellent fighting game. MK Armagedon is nothing special, in fact, I wouldn't touch it after playing Soul Caliber 2. I've heard Guilty Gear x2 is a good one also.

A few other games to look for if they ever get backwards compatable are The Chronicles of Riddick, Breakdown, and Oddworld: Strangers Wrath.

And I think UC2 was an Xbox exclusive that makes it worth owning and Xbox, back when it was popular online. Still is for me, but there's alot less people on it.

SythVenom

02-06-2007, 03:54 PM

Yes for mortal kombat......Deceptions work for me. Scorpion rulez. Soul Caliber is the ultimate fighting game where i am at. I mean it is like playing madden over here. FPS, hands down epic. But I am not saying others aren't close. Ninja Gaiden is a must for any xbox owner. I still get amazed with that game. GTA owns in the open world since. Spiderman 2, best comic to game development in a very long time, well just swinging alone will take 2 hours out of my life when I start playing it. Panzer Dragon Orta, please don't sleep on this game. Very very fun. And silent hill for those chills if you need the fix...lol.

snoogans460

02-07-2007, 12:36 AM

Here's a list of must-own original Xbox games which I've compiled...

UC2
UC1
Star Wars Battlefront 1 & 2
Doom 3 and ROE
Fable
Forza
GTA Series
Halo Series
Hitman Series
Headhunter Redemption
Indiana Jones
Indigo Prophecy
KOTOR 1 & 2
Links
Max Payne Series
Mechassault Series
Mercenaries
Moto GP Series
Outlaw Golf, Volleyball, & Tennis
Prince of Persia Series
Rainbow Six Series
Rallisport Challenge 2
Riddick
Spikeout Battle Street
Splinter Cell Series
Top Spin
Wolfenstein

hypnotic

02-07-2007, 07:02 AM

make some of them b/c

DeusGear

02-13-2007, 07:48 PM

God I want to try UC2 so badly but there's just not BC :(

Netsurfer733

02-14-2007, 01:33 AM

When abouts do you guys think the next BC will come?

Like, March ish you think?

(Actually, can anyone pull up the dates for the past BC updates? Maybe we can find a pattern...)

snoogans460

02-14-2007, 11:45 AM

Roughly every four months a BC update is released. The last two were in either August or September - and the last was in December. Therefore, April's a pretty sure bet, but don't count on anything earlier than March. If UC2 does get the BC treatment, it might revitalize the online community quite a bit, since the forums will be ablaze about the news.

Vickissv3

02-22-2007, 05:24 AM

is there any way epic can update us about the status of it being BC or have a sticky thread about it ?

ThePigster

02-22-2007, 01:47 PM

I don't think Epic knows. I bet if they do know ahead of time,they'll let us know.

Netsurfer733

02-22-2007, 03:35 PM

I dont think any game community has any idea about bc updates, so no I don't think we ever will :P But as was said, April seems a pretty sure deal.

Vickissv3

02-26-2007, 05:29 PM

Its not the aspect of waiting for it to become BC its the uncertainty. I was on these boards when the 360 was announced , and Epic was talking about getting it BC then. Now almost 2 years later and we still dont know. Something definite would be appreciated from MS

snoogans460

02-27-2007, 10:28 PM

If only UC2 would've been released as a next-gen launch title six months later, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

joeGraf

02-28-2007, 08:49 AM

I don't think Epic knows. I bet if they do know ahead of time,they'll let us know.

We don't know. I keep asking, but I am not getting any more information than you guys. I'd really like to play it too.

Vickissv3

02-28-2007, 12:39 PM

Well thanks for asking at least , as long as the actual developer shows interest in seeing it BC there is always hope. Just as with the Psychonauts movement.

Netsurfer733

02-28-2007, 03:13 PM

We don't know. I keep asking, but I am not getting any more information than you guys. I'd really like to play it too.

Indeed thanks Joe :)

And remind me what your opinion was as far as better graphical 'performance' on the 360 goes? Do you think the fps might go a bit smoother? (since I still personally hold that UC2 overstressed the old Xbox :) )

joeGraf

03-01-2007, 08:52 AM

And remind me what your opinion was as far as better graphical 'performance' on the 360 goes?

The 360 is many times more powerful than the old Xbox. It should run silky smooth, assuming the compatibility works well. I've heard some reports of other graphically intensive games being a bit slower on the 360 because the emulation is hard to pull off at the same speeds.

fenix1729

03-01-2007, 10:12 AM

snoogans460

03-01-2007, 10:44 PM

The 360 is many times more powerful than the old Xbox. It should run silky smooth, assuming the compatibility works well. I've heard some reports of other graphically intensive games being a bit slower on the 360 because the emulation is hard to pull off at the same speeds.

Very true. However, in a few rare cases it might actually work better - such is the case with Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, where it actually boasts a 50 percent frame-rate improvement. Then again, emulation is usually more prone to problems than actual improvements.

Sometimes though - as in the case of SCUMM VM (a PC Emulator which runs Lucasarts Classics) - the entire experience works much better than the original versions. Playing the Secret of Monkey Island Franchise is smooth as butter... with more options.

Acid Phase

03-04-2007, 02:07 PM

Tell those guys a epic we want a sequel (very similar to uc2)

Forget that....If UT3 (formally UT2K7) is indeed a prequel to UC2 I'll be happy to see what transpires before the events of UC2. For example: Malcom's injury after battling Gorge for the second time. Brock and Lauren's Death resulting in thier revival as necris. And Nakhti involvment in the tournament.

snoogans460

03-04-2007, 10:57 PM

Well, a UC3 could always be a follow-up sequel to UC2 - with the backstory being a prequel of sorts... similar to Star Wars or something. Besides, Malcolm is supposed to be 53 years of age, so one has to wonder how much tournament prowess he has left. Then again, he could always be cryogenically frozen (ala' Demolition Man with Snipes and Stallone) and return years later to save the tournament.

Netsurfer733

03-04-2007, 11:09 PM

SythVenom

03-05-2007, 12:59 PM

snoogans460

03-05-2007, 07:22 PM

I remember that movie. But honestly he is going to have to step aside. I think anubis should take over. Or maybe a new face. We will have to wait and see.

Malcolm could've impregnated Selket during a match at the Ascension Rites - further adding to the drama between Anubis' former courtship with the Nakhti Empress.

After her Necris conversion, maybe this ill-legitimate kid was born as a Daywalker (like Blade), and grows up to de-throne Anubis.

All the while, Malcolm is a colorful commentator for the Tournament, playing shuffle-board with his ex-rival; now turned close buddy Gorge - while also doing commercials for Life-Insurance Policies. Oh the possibilities!:D

SythVenom

03-06-2007, 07:22 AM

Malcolm could've impregnated Selket during a match at the Ascension Rites - further adding to the drama between Anubis' former courtship with the Nakhti Empress.

After her Necris conversion, maybe this ill-legitimate kid was born as a Daywalker (like Blade), and grows up to de-throne Anubis.

All the while, Malcolm is a colorful commentator for the Tournament, playing shuffle-board with his ex-rival; now turned close buddy Gorge - while also doing commercials for Life-Insurance Policies. Oh the possibilities!:D

That would be great. But I think anubis should get necris selket pregnant. Then have the landri create a child from the dna of their baby and combine it with the skaarg. A new race is developed. Both malcolm's and gorges kids (If any) are the new leaders. I don't know. I think all this should be another topic. I could have fun with this.

snoogans460

03-06-2007, 09:51 PM

Boy, if the Liandri used Skarrj DNA with their baby - he'd turn out to be one fuggly lookin' kid. Although, his hybrid genetic make-up would probably give him first-rate strength.

Vickissv3

03-07-2007, 01:34 AM

Boy, if the Liandri used Skarrj DNA with their baby - he'd turn out to be one fuggly lookin' kid. Although, his hybrid genetic make-up would probably give him first-rate strength.

So how about that BC for 360?....:rolleyes:

Netsurfer733

03-07-2007, 01:44 AM

yea i want that lol

AdZ

03-07-2007, 02:17 AM

Yes for mortal kombat......Deceptions work for me. Scorpion rulez.

I took your advice and picked up a 2nd hand copy of MK Deception for 9 euros. Ive only had chance to play a few rounds but from what ive seen so far, i like alot, so thanks for that tip. ;)

Back on topic.
Its good to hear Epic wants UC2 b/c`d too, i really hope this is a sign that uc2 will be b/c`d eventually. I still have mine sitting in its box crying to get out.:)

SythVenom

03-07-2007, 08:26 AM

So about that hybrid.... Is their even a storyline coming out in regards to the new UT. Maybe I am expecting some really crazy stuff to happen. Will the story be based off of UC, or UT? What about the nali people? Will they be involved?

I think this topic honestly should be closed. Dump UC2, becuase it should have been made it on the list. Just let it be on the original. I have faith in epic that they will make another version of the game. Because it has been
nothing but a let down and ut3 is inching closer and closer.

snoogans460

03-08-2007, 12:32 AM

I've haven't exactly been following the overall premise of UT3, but will definitely become more interested once the game nears its release date. Personally, I find it extremely difficult becoming too enthralled with any game that's not yet on the horizon - so to speak. Ya ya, I know it'll be here this year and the time will fly by in retrospect.

However, it's only freakin' March. Last year I remember when Gears was slated for release around this time, and we all know it didn't arrive until close to the holidays. My guess is that we can expect the same for UT3 - although, I don't mind being patient for quality.

Shadow Dancer

03-08-2007, 01:06 AM

So about that hybrid.... Is their even a storyline coming out in regards to the new UT. Maybe I am expecting some really crazy stuff to happen. Will the story be based off of UC, or UT? What about the nali people? Will they be involved?

"In 2291, in an attempt to control violence among deep space miners, the Liandri Mining Corporation established a series of legues and bloody public exhibitions. For 50 years, the fights' brutality grew with their brutality; then, the war came.
"From the dark depths of space, the Necris armies attacked the Tarydium mining colonies. The Tricasts called it, a corporate skirmish, but you lost everything: your family, your friends, your entire clan. Now you're fighting for all you have left: revenge."

The Campaighn will be story-based, like UC2, with various missions being carried out within the context of the tournament. Apparently, about halfway through, the Necris will attack. Your actions as you go through the game will determine what is available to you, from what missions you'll take-on to what kinds of upgrades you'll be able to get (if you play it right, you'll steal a Necris cloaking device and apply it to your Hellbender...)

AdZ

03-08-2007, 02:34 AM

back on topic..

I think this topic honestly should be closed. Dump UC2.

Sorry but thats abit of a dumb thing to say, no one is going to lose out if M$ does eventually b/c UC2 & if you really dont want it b/c'd you shouldnt be in this thread posting... Obviously though many people would want it b/c'd, so how about you let us just try, cuz theres no harm in that is there?

SythVenom

03-08-2007, 11:48 AM

back on topic..

Sorry but thats abit of a dumb thing to say, no one is going to lose out if M$ does eventually b/c UC2 & if you really dont want it b/c'd you shouldnt be in this thread posting... Obviously though many people would want it b/c'd, so how about you let us just try, cuz theres no harm in that is there?

Ops. Did I pinch a nerve. There is always some that disagree. First I believe I can post anywhere I want. Second, I have always been faithful to this game and community from the very first day I got it. Third, it was nothing but a statement written with an idea, and then something expanded on why I believe this idea. So I do not think it was right of you to only justify that line I said. I am not trying to break peoples hope. And you are right that it won't hurt much to have it on the list. But the thing is we can't even get a straight answer on the subject. I have never been a person that just talks. I also made statements in the another post advising that we create two different partitions and one explaining that we should all get a written pertition signed and let our voices heard besides wasting finger energy typing it on the forums. But guess what the reality of that was....Only pigster had some positive input to the comment, and even gave advise. And I know more people read my post.

So in essence, if we as a community can't get together on a common goal as this, and let it be known that we want it, then the company won't give a .... about it, or do it whenever. But like you said it never hurts to try!!!!!!!

Sorry if you took this negative, but I don't think I was wrong for saying it, though I did manage to catch another persons attention. So I think I had to say it the way I did.

Vickissv3

03-08-2007, 01:24 PM

I just would like to know if MS is still working on BC in general

AdZ

03-08-2007, 06:25 PM

Ops.Did I pinch a nerve.
err no sorry.

There is always some that disagree.
You got that right. :D

First I believe I can post anywhere I want.
You can but try.

Second, I have always been faithful to this game and community from the very first day I got it.
You deserve a giant cookie.

Third, it was nothing but a statement written with an idea, and then something expanded on why I believe this idea.
Nothing personal but, some ideas are best kept to yourself.

I do not think it was right of you to only justify that line I said.
So you want me to justify everything you say? :eek: (Im am trying! however, i think i'll pass)

I am not trying to break peoples hope.
You certainly had me fooled there for a minute.

Seriously, today you agreed it never hurts to try but yesterday you said close the thread and dump uc2, your precious.. umm hookay.:rolleyes:

Sorry if you took this negative
Actually atm i dont care the game will get b/c'd or not despite your ideas. ;)

snoogans460

03-08-2007, 08:16 PM

Even if I remain the very last person playing UC2, I'll continue to remain loyal to this community - or, at least the game itself. Venom's right though, it really doesn't make sense for the Developers to worry so much about UC2 any longer.

It's a fantastic game... we all know that, but dismal sales and a lack of individuals online are enough to bury this game's greater potential - sad to say. It pisses me off to no end when I hop online and see the servers empty. UC2 is still the most recent Unreal Tilte that's been released, and probably the most under-played among them all. Hell, even the original Unreal has a stronger life-line... and that game's been around for nearly a decade.

UC2 deserves better, although, most gamers just don't care. If more servers were poppin' off at any given time, I'd definitely play more myself. However, I usually prefer my gaming late at night when everyone else is cashed asleep. Sucks too, because when I do play, it's always the same ol' people. Boring.

SythVenom

03-08-2007, 08:55 PM

Let's get real ADZ. That is cute what you did. But it seems you weren't listening to anything that was said. From my understand hope and actual action is two different things. Wait a minute though. If you never seen my point in the beginning you won't get it now. So you have your opinion, and I will definitely stand up on mines. Thanks for the um.....useless convo!!!!!!

AdZ

03-09-2007, 01:58 AM

UC2 deserves better, although, most gamers just don't care. If more servers were poppin' off at any given time, I'd definitely play more myself. However, I usually prefer my gaming late at night when everyone else is cashed asleep. Sucks too, because when I do play, it's always the same ol' people. Boring. Unforunatly i cant play online, not that id want to anyway but i would like to just have a few quick games of it against bots here and there.

Let's get real ADZ.
Fo shaw dawg.

That is cute what you did.
You liked that huh, ok i'll do it again, just for you.

But it seems you weren't listening to anything that was said
oh rea-lly, i guess that makes 2 of us.

From my understanding hope and actual action are two different things. err yea, obviously... & both hope and ability to take action is here, ie- People post which is taking action and when Epic replys gives hope, but you want to close this thread and dump uc2 which is basically taking everyones hope and ability to take action away. Dont you think your being a lil selfish?.. actually dont bother answering that cuz i already know your answer and im pretty much past caring now.

Wait a minute though. If you never seen my point in the beginning you won't get it now. So you have your opinion, and I will definitely stand up on mines
ah, now your getting it, at last.

Thanks for the um.....useless convo!!!!!!
No problamo, one useless convo deserves another. :)

Vickissv3

03-16-2007, 03:06 AM

do you guys think a 360 controller would suit the gameplay even more when its BC

SythVenom

03-16-2007, 07:38 AM

Unforunatly i cant play online, not that id want to anyway but i would like to just have a few quick games of it against bots here and there.

Fo shaw dawg.

You liked that huh, ok i'll do it again, just for you.

oh rea-lly, i guess that makes 2 of us.
err yea, obviously... & both hope and ability to take action is here, ie- People post which is taking action and when Epic replys gives hope, but you want to close this thread and dump uc2 which is basically taking everyones hope and ability to take action away. Dont you think your being a lil selfish?.. actually dont bother answering that cuz i already know your answer and im pretty much past caring now.

ah, now your getting it, at last.

No problamo, one useless convo deserves another. :)
LOL. I bet you feel smart now huh?? But what I said still stands.

snoogans460

03-16-2007, 07:42 AM

do you guys think a 360 controller would suit the gameplay even more when its BC

Not likely, only because I'm already so accustomed to the original Xbox controller. However, I'll adjust accordingly... that's to say that UC2 actually beomes BC.

The Taunt Button won't be in the same place for when I pull-off my coup de graces. Whenever I enter the correct sequence during a coup, I immediately hit white, white - just so my character taunts while performing the fatality.

Good Times Indeed.

SythVenom

03-16-2007, 08:18 AM

Not likely, only because I'm already so accustomed to the original Xbox controller. However, I'll adjust accordingly... that's to say that UC2 actually beomes BC.

The Taunt Button won't be in the same place for when I pull-off my coup de graces. Whenever I enter the correct sequence during a coup, I immediately hit white, white - just so my character taunts while performing the fatality.

Good Times Indeed.

Snoogs, I do the same thing.