Crouch idea

[FrostBiteEST]

In my ut game experiense i realised that crouch abilty is usless,because
1)In maps there are no low walls to crouch behind them to hide.
2)Crouch is only lowering you movespeed and you become easy target.

My idea is when you crouch some auto-aim should be activated wich increase your accruasy greatly.But otherwise crouch should be removed from ut because it is usless.

Anyone else have some idea to make crouch useful ability.?

[Sabo]

http://i.jubii.dk/rd/dynamic/gallery/Peter+Crouch's+ok%E4nda+sidor_297268.jpg

[cyghost]

wow - no, thats just wrong m8

crouch is used not to fall of ledges and vehicles

and auto aim is a no no

play COD2 or such if you want crouching to *improve* aim

[FrostBiteEST]

ut is fast phase game since when u have time to crouch on ledges?

[The5thviruz]

It was useful in assault.

[cyghost]

and ONS

plus every now and then there is a breather in a hectic one on one - prolly not much used in FFA or TDM

but to make it into an auto aim borders on the retarded

appolgies if you were serious - the idea is retarded not the poster :rolleyes:

[WickedBohn]

take the Minigun, shoot on a far target. Then Crouch and do the same and you will see...

[Pendrokar]

While crouching you can have less chance of dying from an enemy manta that is running over you!!! AND I remember one cool thing that happened while playing ONS in Torlan. A tank was coming at me at the canyon and I hid in a hole on the ground and the tank drived over me. (That felt so good)

[rhiridflaidd]

Crouch is useful to identify which players are bots when playing on servers that change the names of the bots.

[Mardok]

tank drived over me.
LOL

Anyway, the crouch is useful at times. It's useful in Onslaught by peeking over a corner while crouching, making the tank near impossible to blast you away, while your beating it down with the Shock.

It's also useful for keeping yourself from falling off a ledge.

[Vectorspace]

While crouching you can have less chance of dying from an enemy manta that is running over you!!! AND I remember one cool thing that happened while playing ONS in Torlan. A tank was coming at me at the canyon and I hid in a hole on the ground and the tank drived over me. (That felt so good)

Where is that hole??

[fuegerstef]

In my ut game experiense i realised that crouch abilty is usless,because
1)In maps there are no low walls to crouch behind them to hide.
2)Crouch is only lowering you movespeed and you become easy target.

1. There are a few. They are just not played.
2. It greatly reduces the hitbox and makes headshots for the opponent harder.
3. It prevents you from falling of ledges and moving vehicles.

In every match I play I crouch numerous times, because it helps a lot. Please try the game again, before you talk about this, thanks.


My idea is when you crouch some auto-aim should be activated wich increase your accruasy greatly.

You aren't serious, are you?? Please play this instead in the future: "Start -> Games -> Solitaire". :p

[Kronos]

ut is fast phase game since when u have time to crouch on ledges?
UT2k3/4 isnt as fast as people make it out to be, people crouch also because it delivers no foot print sound which can be really effective in a 1v1 at the right time.

[Entil'Zha]

UT2k3/4 isnt as fast as people make it out to be, people crouch also because it delivers no foot print sound which can be really effective in a 1v1 at the right time.

Exactly!
Every sound that gives away your position in a 1vs1 is to be avoided.
+ unable to fall off ledges
These 2 are why I use it all the time

[Nietzsche]

You aren't serious, are you?? Please play this instead in the future: "Start -> Games -> Solitaire". :p

Solitaire has no auto-aim 8(

... except when you crouch, of course.

[Bishop Gantry]

maby do a fast barrel roll on the ground when pressing crouch while doing a dodge...

[Taleweaver]

All the good reasons have already been mentioned. Nonetheless, there is one obvious thing that got somewhat overlooked:

Airborne vehicles need a way to get down again.


maby do a fast barrel roll on the ground when pressing crouch while doing a dodge...
Nice idea. :) Though I think you mean the other way: holding crouch, then performing a dodge to do a barrel roll maneuvre.

[MonsOlympus]

I agree about crouch high cover as long as it works with the map and doesnt destroy the flow.

Having in improve aim nups sorry, if you can use it to get behind some cover to recover your wits and perhaps get an idea for your next move should be enough.

Now ut2k7 shouldnt become dominated totally by cover like gears or anything but I think with the gameplay changes epic have made (like the removal of the shieldgun) some sort of cover can be built into maps without totally destroying the more in your face gameplay style of 2k7 8)

[Kea]

It should be in there. The collision sylinder's height should also be decreased when you crouch, so you can crawl through low openings - it might not be that useful in a fast-paced match, but I was always irritated in old Unreal for lacking it. The lack of it makes movement weird at times.

[Flak]

Try riding on a manta wing without crouching. ;)

[Modulus]

In UT99 crouching made it impossible for someone to get a headshot on you... Not sure if that's the case in 2k4.. It also reduces your hitbox... I find it useful... Don't remove it.

[Ickle]

Crouching is also useful in insta in very upclose and personal situations, literally groin/bum sniffin'.

And thinking about it, it also works at long range too, but anything in between is suicidal.

[Garcia y Vega]

In my ut game experiense i realised that crouch abilty is usless,because
1)In maps there are no low walls to crouch behind them to hide.
2)Crouch is only lowering you movespeed and you become easy target.

My idea is when you crouch some auto-aim should be activated wich increase your accruasy greatly.But otherwise crouch should be removed from ut because it is usless.

Anyone else have some idea to make crouch useful ability.?

Crouch is very usefull in 2k4...
1.it prevents you from falling off ledges (i love this about ut xD)
2.reduces your hit box size
3.allows you to move without making foot sounds

I hope epic doesn't change any of these things in 2k7. Crouch is perfectly fine the way it is now. and auto-aim?? wtf is this halo 2007?? bad idea man.

[search161]

I don't think so - most players are geared towards tracking opponents that fly / bounce / zoom around the map. Tapping the crouch key every once in a while greatly affects their ability to predict your movement at any distance.

In 1v1 situations though, the lack of foot sounds is its greatest feature. But to clarify, this only helps if your opponent hasn't already seen you.

[Sabo]

Try riding on a manta wing without crouching. ;)

It's easy. Just make sure you aren't touching the cockpit (take a few steps towards the edge of the wings) so that when it rotates slightly (roll) it doesn't knock you off.

[Flak]

One good bump or hit from an avril or shock and you're gone. Crouching all the way. ;)

[Sabo]

err, no it's exactly the same as crouching only your hit box is slightly taller.

[fuegerstef]

err, no it's exactly the same as crouching only your hit box is slightly taller.

No, it is not. Look at the code. You can also try it, if you don't want to look through the UScripts. You will notice a "barrier" when you are on a Manta and try to walk off while crouching. This "barrier" isn't there when walking normally.

[Sabo]

duh. but why the hell would you walk around on the wing whilst its moving? also, unless a patch fixed it, it's still really easy to fall off whilst crouching.

[Bishop Gantry]

crouch running would make sense, third person shaky cam optional:p

[fuegerstef]

...it's still really easy to fall off whilst crouching.

...you must be talking about a different game, because that "barrier" makes it very hard to fall off while crouching.

[Bishop Gantry]

...you must be talking about a different game, because that "barrier" makes it very hard to fall off while crouching.

Try rough terrain, its quite simple to fall off over uneven terrain...

[Sabo]

after loading the game and checking, it appears that if you crouch and try to walk off the edge of the vehicle at a low angle (to the edge), it'll keep you on - however if you walk try to walk off at a perpendicular angle, you fall off straight away. Lag may play a part online though, dunno.

Not that that any of this has anything to do with the hardness of staying on a moving manta.

[fuegerstef]

Try rough terrain, its quite simple to fall off over uneven terrain...

Not when on the cockpit. At least I never fell of because of terrain in over 2.5 years.

[search161]

Being on top of the cockpit is key here. If you're riding the wing, rough terrain will knock you off even when crouched.

[fuegerstef]

Being on top of the cockpit is key here. If you're riding the wing, rough terrain will knock you off even when crouched.

And if the cockpit is full already, step on the OUTER side of the wings. Because it is the cockpit's hitbox that knocks you off when on rough terrain.