View Full Version : Imulsion being the reason for the locust's war against humans
Omnius
11-15-2006, 04:02 PM
I was thinking.... since there is abviously a colony style set up for the locust's. Meening, theres a queen and then the queens pawns, and catacombs of tunnles"hive". my question/theory is, imulsion being the reason why the locust's started the war. could it be there food or energey source of some type. Cause when you think about it, the locust's never started any thing until humans started tapping into the imulsion?
rossifumi
11-15-2006, 04:18 PM
yeah, the war is over the imulsion. maybe other things too, but that's got to be the catalyst.
it's alluded to in the Queen's (who else could she be?) statement at endgame.
Roughly paraphrased - They do not even know why we fight.
It makes sense, humans run out of energy sources. Than dig right into the Locust's homes and take their juice.
You know that opening cinematic, showing peaceful/destroyed Sera? Pretty neat to watch if you see it as the Queen, which I think it is, narrating that.
Observing how "the humans destroyed their own civilization" to deal with the threat.
Omnius
11-15-2006, 05:09 PM
True true, but it brings me to a point. As to why and were the imulsion stands on a locust society basis? why do they need it, or what would they use it for. cause in the game, the corpser you kill gets killed technically by being droped in the "imulsion"... and from the queens point of view, you have to think about it like ants or some other type of colonial insect. the queen knows every thing that happens. kind of like from the book series: Ender's game
specops527
11-15-2006, 09:00 PM
The Imulsion has something to do with it. That's definite, or maybe they emerged out of self preservation...just came up with a theory, read in my new post!
XxMarcusxX
11-15-2006, 09:35 PM
LOL!! So many theories the best one was held by specops...Man, you know what they said," Humans, will be the reason for there extiction."
xXRaven433Xx
11-16-2006, 09:28 AM
Very interesting theory...
Beelzebub
11-17-2006, 12:01 AM
Imulsion is a factor in the war, but not a direct cause for the Locusts involvement. After the light mass prccess was discovered (which was used to turn imulsion into a viable fuel source.) countries that didn't have imulsion deposits started to fight for control of them because they knew that it could not only replace petrolium but be sold for lage sums of money. These struggles eventually escalated into the Pendulum Wars.
As for the Locust, they may have some need for the imulsion but as of now it is unknown and will most likely be revieled in the sequal. They may attacked the humans because their drilling was destroying the Locusts tunnles or just because they were in their territory, and the Pendulum Wars may have just been a convinient distraction that gave them time to build up their army.
THERONWATCHER
11-18-2006, 12:40 AM
Hi, I just joined. Anyways...I think that the Locust had been planning their attack for quite some time, its just that they were waiting for the correct time to strike-as the post before me mentions a bit. In the Destroyed Beauty Book it says that the Brumak or whatever was cross-bread by the locust from local apes or something along those lines...why would they breed something so fierce for no reason? FYI, I haven gotten that far yet, I am just saying it looks pretty fricken fierce. Is it hard? Anyways, how would you like it if drills suddenly started appearing over your heads? That might have happened to the Locust, you know with the imulsion and all...just a thought that many others have thought of... Hell, we would probably attack alien life forms if we came out of our homes one day to find them all over the place. This may have been with the Locusts...THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY STUPID HUMANS AROUND.
Fuzzy
11-18-2006, 12:55 AM
Yup gotta agree with u guys imulsion sure play a big role in the Gears storyline
My friend have a theory what if the locust are formerly human miners they kind of get mutated by raw imulsion or something like that,coz if u look at the locust clothing they kind of look like miners clothing except for the theron guards
Tjirad
11-18-2006, 01:56 PM
I would have to say that it started as an ant colony, and then as the planet grew older, the ants accidentally fell into the imulsion and mutated...and become Locusts...
Just a theory..
Omnius
11-18-2006, 02:41 PM
Well, we know very little as to the planet sera's enviorment and animal/insect populations. Yes we know that it is some what similar to earth, but we do not know the full extent of sera's habitat. We also do not know if the locust's are natural or part of a "gone wrong" experiment. The locust's for all we know could have been made as a weapon during the pendulum wars and never brought into service, kinda of like a "super soldier" per-say. There are a number of theory's and a laundry list of ideas to come. but i can almost definately say that the imulsion is derectly connect'ed to either the war or the locust's in some form or another.
Stingra
11-19-2006, 04:37 AM
While Imulsion may certainly be a factor, I think the true explanation might be a bit deeper.
Locusts feature prominently in human history and mythology as destroyers of agriculture due to the large swarms of the insects that appear. Research has also proven that the swarming is caused by overpopulation and a need for more food sources.
So, the GoW locusts could simply be fighting out of a need to expand and consume. Simple survival, really. Why else would the locusts have put so much interest in holding the key centers of the human civilization during the E-Day invasion? The human leadership probably realized this, and is why they instituted the scorched earth policy. Of course, they may have just been acting like selfish children by making sure the Locusts never got what they wanted.
And while humans can survive on limited resources by strictly controlling said resources and limiting population growth, the Locusts just simply had too many mouths to feed, which is why they continued to fight the humans for Jacinta Plateau, the one last place on Sera that has usable agriculture. It would never be enough to sustain the Horde, of course, but you take what you can get.
"We will fight, or we will die" are the words of the Queen, if I'm not mistaken. So the Locusts have no other choice but to try to take Jacinta. The only other option is to starve.
So, who's to say they wouldn't have stopped fighting if the humans hadn't scoured Sera's surface from orbit? Who's to say that conditions on the Locust side of things are actually worse than on the human side? Little food, probably billions on terms of population to feed, the Locust 'civilisation' is was most likely crumbling from just a simple lack of resources when they attacked on E-Day.
DarK 1217
11-19-2006, 04:46 AM
Hmmmm, now that I think of it. The Locust remind me a lot of the Morlock (I hope someone gets that reference). A stretch: maybe the Locust are a group of humans that evolved along a different path.
musilowski
11-19-2006, 10:04 AM
Hmmmm, now that I think of it. The Locust remind me a lot of the Morlock (I hope someone gets that reference). A stretch: maybe the Locust are a group of humans that evolved along a different path.
Yes, that's what I've been thinking of too...
So, the GoW locusts could simply be fighting out of a need to expand and consume. Simple survival, really. Why else would the locusts have put so much interest in holding the key centers of the human civilization during the E-Day invasion? The human leadership probably realized this, and is why they instituted the scorched earth policy. Of course, they may have just been acting like selfish children by making sure the Locusts never got what they wanted.
Indeed. Well said.
In fact, lets think about the name itself: Locust Horde. Locust are known for mass consumption of crops, etc - in essence, resources. 'Horde' itself means throng or swarm. But upon hearing the name, I thought of it as 'Locust Hoard' which holds an entirely different meaning. 'Hoard' means 'a hidden accumulation. 'Accumulation' means to heap or pile up. So I initially took the name as a play on words that represents a civilization that massively piles up resources, which I attributed to simple greed.
This argument of survival raises a good point. What if the Locust desperately need these resources? It certainly justifies the queen's (that's what we're calling her, right?) statement at the end of the campaign.
Now, a better question is this: are the CoG actually helping the Locust by fighting them? If the Locust are dying out due to lack of resources and too many 'mouths to feed' could it be that the war against the humans holds a two fold benefit for the Locust? The first being that they gain control of the surface, all immulsion, and any additional resources, the second being that in the war a certain portion of their population dies, actually reducing the number of 'mouths to feed' so to speak. It sounds like exactly something a civilization as cold and calculated as the Locust would do.
shananagins741
06-04-2007, 05:45 PM
you hear at the end that the queen says that "they do not know why we fight." I think that means that the humans were not ment to be at the top of the food chain, but instead the locust.
USRangerJohn
06-04-2007, 06:49 PM
Why is this back?
The Evil Hat
06-04-2007, 06:53 PM
you hear at the end that the queen says that "they do not know why we fight." I think that means that the humans were not ment to be at the top of the food chain, but instead the locust.
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USRangerJohn
06-04-2007, 06:58 PM
Yeah how did you come to that conclusion...?
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