Should UC characters be in UT?

[Locust Bait]

Should UC2 characters be in UT? I think they should seeing as to how Devastation is pretty much the most advanced android ever, Szalor is blood thirsty and cool, Sapphire would give a... interesting aspect, espeacially when shes running and hacking... bodyparts (lol), Anubis would be a cool addition, Sobek said that he was in the UT before which Malcolm confirmed so he can be on to tie loose ends, and some other characters with reasons.

Although UC is set on a parallel universe than that of UT. After the defeat Thundercats it seems like the universe has been ripped apart with one side ending as Unreal Championships 2 and the other as Unreal Tournament 2004.

Who and y do you think should be in UT '07?

[MonsOlympus]

Well sobek makes sense but Im not conviced any of the others should be, besides the usuals (lauren, brock, malcolm). Gorge would be nice as he was in 2k3/4 and is my favourite character. I dont think any of the more advanced robots should be, I always prefered the ones from ut99 although the ones in 2k3/4 wernt too bad, I dont really like raptor though I much prefer the 2k3/4 ones.

Yeah I dont think anubis or selket would make much sense in UT at all unless the story is set after UC2, from all Ive heard though UT2k7 will be set before (I mean lauren aint dead hehe) so I guess they should stick to UT2k3/4 characters. Even then it could be set before that, you just never know, I know its not meant to be real or anything but I would like it if the story had some consistancy's through everything with the Unreal brand ;)

[RyGaR]

Yes I do feel a few UC2 characters would be awesome in UT. The thing about UC2's characters is each one feels unique and has there own personality. Unlike in UT2k4 where the characters don't tend to stand out much in terms of individualism.

[fuegerstef]

No. UC = UC, UT = UT, UC != UT.

I assume that the original poster is referring to the looks of the models and skins, because some characters are actually in UT and UC, so there is no need to request having Malcom (for example) in UT.

It would be totally stupid to include the models and skins, as it would completely break the mood and feel of the game.

[FrostBiteEST]

Some chars from uc2 wont fit to ut2007 like Selket because they to naket;) and logicaly one bullet kills her so chars with some armor like anubis and sobek and others with armor should be fine should be fine in ut2007.

[Gregori]

Sure. Alot of the characters in UC2 where 10 million times better than UT2k4's roster. The Nakthi in UC2 where an enormous improvement over UT2k3's Egyptians. Sobek needs to be there definetly. No Necris with flared trouser's please, that **** may fly in UC2 but not in UT!

Ofcourse i'd mostly like to see new characters in the series or the return of undeveloped UT99 characters. (They could bring back Ghengis, make him look asian and like a futuristic nomadic warrior)

[Scylla]

Gorge looks like a clown in UC2, Sapphire already exists in 2k3/4 (but she has black hair and wears shades). The Nahkti do look better than the "Egyptians" in 2k3/4, but the only character that could be in 2007 is Sobek (apart from the characters that are in 2k3/4).

[Pendrokar]

The More, The Better.;)


:( I want Mekkor! :(

[FrostBiteEST]

i always want juggernatus i love beasts but they should have much more damage resistance and more hp because they are slower so that should balance them against some tiny mercs.

[Malkav]

I want to see more egyptian characters, seriously :), I like the Nakhti and the Egyptian clan in Ut2004

[FrostBiteEST]

I want to see more egyptian characters, seriously :), I like the Nakhti and the Egyptian clan in Ut2004

i also have nothing against egyptians at least they better than hellions

[Hedge-o-Matic]

It seems like UC had a lot more leeway in making the characters into individuals, since it seems more "Street Fighter"-ish than UT-ish. With individualized characters, balance is a matter of 1v1 skill, and this isn't really very UT.

That said, I think that, rather than a "Species" mutator, a "Personality" mutator might be interesting. This would give each bot their unique abilities, from basic speed and damage modifications to more powerful abilities such as slow regeneration, movement abilities, and so on. This should definitely be in place for the SP campaign, where strict balance isn't as necessary.

[Bagrada]

I think anubis, and the other Nahkti chick, along with both skaarj. Ut2007 will have it's own necris, and i'm not that interested in the human mercs.

[Piglet]

Meh! I really couldn't care what characters are in as long as visibility of each is equivalent and the hitboxes match the model.

[Unreal Havoc]

Why not include all of them? And for the ones who are already in the game have unlockable skins for them? The one thing I like about UT is the huge choice of characters to choose from, having Selket and friends would just make my day.

It's not like Epic would add them and unbalance the game now would they?

In reference to what one poster said about Selket not wearing much armour compared to other contestants. Since when has UT been about realism? Add to that Selket has generally lower health than other contestants anyway I don't really see how that is an issue. In my opinion Zarina and Ophelia don't really have that much in the way of armour either do they? I'm sure many people have used their own dowloaded or created skins that have looked far more unrealistic in terms of armour than Selket. (Skyla anyone?)

So to be honest there isn't really any reason to not include them, if you don't want to use them don't use them it's that simple.

[MonsOlympus]

It seems like UC had a lot more leeway in making the characters into individuals, since it seems more "Street Fighter"-ish than UT-ish. With individualized characters, balance is a matter of 1v1 skill, and this isn't really very UT.

That said, I think that, rather than a "Species" mutator, a "Personality" mutator might be interesting. This would give each bot their unique abilities, from basic speed and damage modifications to more powerful abilities such as slow regeneration, movement abilities, and so on. This should definitely be in place for the SP campaign, where strict balance isn't as necessary.

Yeah I can understand what you are saying here, species and personalities seems to fit a single player scenario better. The one thing I dont get is this need for symetrical balance, yeah its works to level the playing field for a tournament setting but it does take alot of depth out that could be there. I agree UT2k4's species arnt that great when talking balance but its not just that which causes problems. If you look at it a player can change species anytime they want because its based on the character, so say I know robots are better against gen mo'kai I can suicide or just wait till I die and switch. I dont think that helps matter much, its alot like the ability to change teams at the drop of a ragdoll :p

I think my point of view comes from having a love for all types of games one of the main types I find very enjoyable is RTS, they have been using asymetrical balance for years on teams and it works very well. Even Epic themselves are heading this way with a different vehicle set for each team, it does add alot more time to development and production but it can really add alot to a game.


Why not include all of them? And for the ones who are already in the game have unlockable skins for them? The one thing I like about UT is the huge choice of characters to choose from, having Selket and friends would just make my day.

It's not like Epic would add them and unbalance the game now would they?

In reference to what one poster said about Selket not wearing much armour compared to other contestants. Since when has UT been about realism? Add to that Selket has generally lower health than other contestants anyway I don't really see how that is an issue. I'm sure many people have used their own dowloaded or created skins that have looked far more unrealistic in terms of armour than Selket. (Skyla anyone?)

This is one reason I think the UC2 characters work well in UC2 but wouldnt work great in UT. Without species the abilities of each character is the same, the size and the amount of armour a character wears is the reasoning behind what class they are. The species ofcoarse goes by like race so skaarj get the abilities of their race but then each individual recieves abilities.

Not to mention the story, like I said yeah it doesnt have to be realistic because yeah ofcoarse this is unreal but if the storyline turns into a big garbled mess alot of fans might turn away from the series. Yeah there are parallels now since UT2003 and UC were pretty similar, even using the same content for some things. Apparently UT2003 wasnt well liked so UT2004 came shortly after to fix and help it out, with those three games (UC, UT2003, UT2004) being so similar it makes sense things would be mixed together. With UC2 though it was set apart on purpose and I think that purpose was to give them room for more between UT--(UC,UT2003)--UT2004--UC2. Now they are going back some to UT and trying to mix what was best from all UT games, wether it is set before UT2003 or after I wouldnt know but Im almost certain that UC2 is set a fair ways in the future.

[fuegerstef]

So to be honest there isn't really any reason to not include them, if you don't want to use them don't use them it's that simple.

If they were included as they are now it would break the consistent look and feel of UT2k7.

[Unreal Havoc]

If they were included as they are now it would break the consistent look and feel of UT2k7.Single player maybe, but then does it break the consistent look and feel when people use their own character models and skins? I think it's down to the individuals personal tastes and what characters they like to use from the series. If done right I just don't see any reason not to include them. If anything Raiden in UC2 was way more far fetched than say Selket in UT 2007 don't you agree?

[Locust Bait]

lol, well said.

[UnrealGrrl]

as has been said - as long as they look good and are all equally easy to see itll be fine.

Please no BLIMP or skeletel characters and we're in business... ;)

...oh and Selket leading a new group of Anubans/Nahkti would be cool as well as the merger of the Hellions and Nightmares.

[Unreal Havoc]

...oh and Selket leading a new group of Anubans/Nahkti would be cool.Or how about a merger of the two?

[Henrik]

NO GORGE
NO EGYPTIANS
NO STUPID LOOKING SKAARJ WITH FLOPPY DREDS
NO MR. CROW

*koff*yesselket*koff*

[FrostBiteEST]

NO GORGE
NO EGYPTIANS
NO STUPID LOOKING SKAARJ WITH FLOPPY DREDS
NO MR. CROW

*koff*yesselket*koff*

so whos left? only some tiny ass mercs and cybernetics .Man u really want to end ut series?

[fuegerstef]

so whos left? only some tiny ass mercs and cybernetics .Man u really want to end ut series?

That's all there had been in the most succesful UT to date (plus the necris, but the other poster didn't want to remove them either, you missed that).
I am not against progression and adding new chars. But there had been so many mistakes of what characters had been included in the past. Mr. Crow, for example. Ok some kiddies love him as he reminds him of the funny circus clowns they see when they visist the circus with their parents on saturday afternoon. But it wasn't something that pushed the franchise forward... ...it turned the franchise into a parody of itself.
And a half naked chick only dressed with two tiny gold plates and a blue tissue is someone I would tell the way to the next strip bar to go to work there instead of shooting her when I see her here: http://www.beyondunreal.com/main/ut2007/hr/ut2007_16.jpg

[Jrubzjeknf]

I bet selket with more armor would still look sexy :D

[fuegerstef]

I bet selket with more armor would still look sexy :D

If she fits into the overall feel. I am fine with it. But than the whole thread is useless as there are in fact the same characters across the franchises... ..they only look completely different.

[Wail of Suicide]

NO GORGE
NO EGYPTIANS
NO STUPID LOOKING SKAARJ WITH FLOPPY DREDS
NO MR. CROW


Pretty much agreed here.

I haven't played UC but from what I've seen on websites I'm not interested in any of the characters from that series OR any of the character designs from that series being carried over.

Unreal Engine 3 is powerful enough that it shouldn't need to use caricaturing techniques like "This is a race of really big humans who wear tons of armor" and "This is an Egyptian race, look, they wear pyramids and sphinxes as armor" to create distinctive characters.

[Locust Bait]

Pretty much agreed here.

I haven't played UC but from what I've seen on websites I'm not interested in any of the characters from that series OR any of the character designs from that series being carried over.

Unreal Engine 3 is powerful enough that it shouldn't need to use caricaturing techniques like "This is a race of really big humans who wear tons of armor" and "This is an Egyptian race, look, they wear pyramids and sphinxes as armor" to create distinctive characters.

If you haven't played a game how can you say whether you like their designs or not? And I bet that selket with more armor will still look hot. lol

[fuegerstef]

If you haven't played a game how can you say whether you like their designs or not?

Screenshots and Gameplay footage maybe??? But he stated that already... ...seems you read over it.

Look, there is a new UT2004 mod out. ANd I can say from even 1 Screenshot that I would not like this Design in the Warfare mode of the UT2007 retail version.

http://www.beyondunreal.com/content/potd_images/sod-s01.jpg

[Unreal Havoc]

I dont think there is any harm in having the characters available for multiplayer. As I have stated before many people use their own models or skins anyway so what difference does it really make?

[Xenocide]

I dont think there is any harm in having the characters available for multiplayer. As I have stated before many people use their own models or skins anyway so what difference does it really make?

When people use their own models, only they can see it. ;)

[Unreal Havoc]

If I remember rightly (I haven't played multiplayer online just remembering from all the modelling and skinning sites) if the host or other players has the models or skin packs in their directory then everyone else can see it too right? (could be wrong here)

I just don't see what the big deal is, I think the characters are pretty cool, and I think that Anubis and Selket among some others would definitely fit into another UT game. People who say Selket has little armour the arguement is flawed. Some of the Hellions in UT 2004 didn't wear that much armour either. The only difference is that Selket looked better! :D

At the end of the day I think we should at least have the choice of what characters we can include in our games. I have always loved the UT games because of the huge amount of options, and I don't see anything wrong with having UC characters anymore than having the option to use old school weapons skins.

It's all about personal enjoyment and choice. No one is saying you have to use the characters but it would be nice if they were included for those that do wish to use them.

[fuegerstef]

If I remember rightly (I haven't played multiplayer online just remembering from all the modelling and skinning sites) if the host or other players has the models or skin packs in their directory then everyone else can see it too right? (could be wrong here)

...

It's all about personal enjoyment and choice. No one is saying you have to use the characters but it would be nice if they were included for those that do wish to use them.

Regarding the first point: That would be the worst case if I had to see the models other people use that I don''t have installed. I would make an almost invisible character and join the action then. THey needed to dl it and don't see me... ...fine. It's THEM that have to fight that invisible char... ...not me.

Same goes for the second point. It matters the least to yourself what character you use. It's the others who see them. And I'd prefer a solid look and feel throughout the game. Not ruining the latter again with clownish characters or characters that are totally out of place making it a parody of the prequel/original game.

For UC2 they were fine, because the overall look and feel was there for them. If they were included in UT2k7 they would look totally out of place.

[Unreal Havoc]

Regarding the first point: That would be the worst case if I had to see the models other people use that I don''t have installed. I would make an almost invisible character and join the action then. THey needed to dl it and don't see me... ...fine. It's THEM that have to fight ]
that invisible char... ...not me.

Ok I can see your point regarding that issue.


Same goes for the second point. It matters the least to yourself what character you use. It's the others who see them. And I'd prefer a solid look and feel throughout the game. Not ruining the latter again with clownish characters or characters that are totally out of place making it a parody of the prequel/original game.

For UC2 they were fine, because the overall look and feel was there for them. If they were included in UT2k7 they would look totally out of place.

Yeah but if Epic included UC2 characters in UT2007 they more than likely wouldn't look like they do in UC2 because like you say it doesn't fit into the overall feel of UT2007. Just like Gorge, Lauren, Brock, Sapphire, and Malcom looked different in UC2 to suit the style of the game. However on this note just about all of the characters have undergone changes in every game with the rise of technology. After all Lauren now has short hair when in the first UT she had long hair. Malcom is older. Things have changed and there is nothing stopping Epic from changing UC2 characters to fit them into the UT2007 style.

Oh and forgive me if I'm wrong but there were no clown characters in UC2. They were in UT2003.

[fuegerstef]

Yeah but if Epic included UC2 characters in UT2007 they more than likely wouldn't look like they do in UC2 because like you say it doesn't fit into the overall feel of UT2007....


If she fits into the overall feel. I am fine with it. But than the whole thread is useless as there are in fact the same characters across the franchises... ..they only look completely different.


Oh and forgive me if I'm wrong but there were no clown characters in UC2. They were in UT2003.

Was talking in general a referring to UT2k3/4 here.

[Henrik]

so whos left? only some tiny ass mercs and cybernetics .Man u really want to end ut series?

Mercs were never "tiny". Just that in UT2003/4 whoever modeled them made them look like wimps. Look at the original game and the players look tough and athletic. They looked like they belong in an arena.

The Skaarj Hybrids were great, and I'm sure I could deal with regular skaarj too if it weren't for the horrible way which they were implemented in 2k4.
That is why I said "no stupid looking skaarj with floppy dreds".. They look like they belong more in some club on the Skaarj homeworld smoking joints and listening to their equivalent of Bob Marley.

What else did I say? A clown skeleton with a top hat, a big tub of lard who obviously can't see more than 20 degrees to either side of him with his stupid headgear on, and a race of egyptian pharoahs and godesses? Dropping these things will end the UT series eh... I think it would be far more likely to return a semblance of respect to it, but that might just be me talking out my ass...

[80gone]

u forgot about selket my fav charachter

[Miko]

Ive only simply have one thing to say. UC2 characters dont fit the profile of well armored Ut2007 characters. UC2 characters were modeled for light weight combat going at high speeds. UT2007 is more traditional tournament combat. That and UC2 is far after UT2007 in terms of timeline. Some UC2 characters would make an exception but alot would have to sit tight. For those wanting Devestation. Shes only half a year old in UC2 which means she isnt invented yet in UT2007.

[Bishop Gantry]

Ok I can see your point regarding that issue.



Yeah but if Epic included UC2 characters in UT2007 they more than likely wouldn't look like they do in UC2 because like you say it doesn't fit into the overall feel of UT2007. Just like Gorge, Lauren, Brock, Sapphire, and Malcom looked different in UC2 to suit the style of the game. However on this note just about all of the characters have undergone changes in every game with the rise of technology. After all Lauren now has short hair when in the first UT she had long hair. Malcom is older. Things have changed and there is nothing stopping Epic from changing UC2 characters to fit them into the UT2007 style.

Oh and forgive me if I'm wrong but there were no clown characters in UC2. They were in UT2003.


No thanks, Unreal has inconsitences up the wazoo already no need to disturb it any further...

It was the inconsitencies and chanes that made gamers abandon ut2003...

[80gone]

NO GORGE
NO EGYPTIANS
NO STUPID LOOKING SKAARJ WITH FLOPPY DREDS
NO MR. CROW

*koff*yesselket*koff*

look no mater how u dont like it there gonna put egyptians with gorge.but the
egyptians are called nakti and the mite put selket in the game lol

[Bagrada]

Or how about a merger of the two?

No, the Anubans were way too colorful and just... Overdone.
The Nahkti were a little understated ans well done. Instead of looking egyptian, they looked like egyptians from the FUTURE.
Much cooler

[musilowski]

I'm waiting to see how the Krall turn out. Unless I've missed some news saying they're out or something...

[Bagrada]

Gawd yeah. Every character form UC2 needs to be there. And Epic needs to design some new ones too, we can never have too many characters. Never.

[Malkav]

NO GORGE
NO EGYPTIANS
NO STUPID LOOKING SKAARJ WITH FLOPPY DREDS
NO MR. CROW

*koff*yesselket*koff*

You forgot, no Malcolm he looks too old :D jk

[Emmet Otter]

Selket FTW!!! http://www.beyondunreal.com/staff/raptor/uc2_mar04/selket.jpg

[Guru7892]

guys, we need people like gorge, Xan and malcom, they have a fragment of plot behind them.

the 'egyptians from the future' single person or two could fit with the tournament pretty well, but they would need to undergo functionality changes. ie, same style, more armor/ more blending with the torunament.

the skaarj would be good inclusions, but maybe only as a single guy. I just dont know how much you can do with them and keep them cool.

the 'hellions' should be remade into a mercenary person or two and be set slightly more mature manner, more armor, but maintian a hellion-stylistic influence.

Personally I find the nighmares kinda stupid, excluding Mr. Crow. He seems like he would be a guest fighter on the necris team or something.

IN SHORT
I think that many of the things in k3 and k4 should be included, but reworked, stripping the best for the necris and mercenary teams. I think 16 good models would be better then 32 rushed and sometimes repetitive models.

[cerotoneN]

I see no harm in adding multiple skins to UT2007 multiplayer that don't necessarily fit into the timeline.

Look... all I'm saying is there better be some damn Nakhti in 07.

[Hanji]

I see no harm in adding multiple skins to UT2007 multiplayer that don't necessarily fit into the timeline.

Look... all I'm saying is there better be some damn Nakhti in 07.

Selket's boobs are large, so Nakhti is in.

[MonsOlympus]

Selket's boobs are large, so Nakhti is in.

Perfect logic, Im sure alot of game dev's use this same deductive reasoning :p

[Henrik]

I know I do.

[Ultamisia]

u forgot about selket my fav charachter
hell yeah!!

[Bishop Gantry]

Selket FTW!!! http://www.beyondunreal.com/staff/raptor/uc2_mar04/selket.jpg

Ddaaaaaaammm, those are some ugly shoes she got...:D

[fuegerstef]

Ddaaaaaaammm, those are some ugly shoes she got...:D

When I look at her face in that shot, I wonder why so many people think that she is so hot ?????

[search161]

Focus on the area between the face and the shoes then. ;)

[ThePigster]

Gorge looks like a clown in UC2

Yeah right, Gorge looks awesome in UC2. You need to get clowns off your mind.:D

[fuegerstef]

Focus on the area between the face and the shoes then. ;)

Isn't that what Real Life(tm) is for ?? :D

[Bishop Gantry]

Yeah right, Gorge looks awesome in UC2. You need to get clowns off your mind.:D

UC2 Gorge looks like a mime thta got beaten up by other mimes...:p

[Henrik]

When I look at her face in that shot, I wonder why so many people think that she is so hot ?????
3 words:

It's the boobs.

[Scylla]

When I look at her face in that shot, I wonder why so many people think that she is so hot ?????

Because people are losers?

[Kronos]

I believe Selket and Anubis were already confirmed to be in ut2007 along with the rest of there team.


Yeah right, Gorge looks awesome in UC2. You need to get clowns off your mind.:D

Gorge does look like a clown in UC2, 2k3/4 gorge ftw.

[Gregori]

I believe Selket and Anubis were already confirmed to be in ut2007 along with the rest of there team.



Gorge does look like a clown in UC2, 2k3/4 gorge ftw.


They definetly weren't. The Nakthi as a team are in, no character mentioned yet.

[Malkav]

Who is this character of my avatar, a new clan or race of cyborgs? lol

[Kronos]

They definetly weren't. The Nakthi as a team are in, no character mentioned yet.

Hmm well even if its not official its probably highly possible that they will be, there is also a ut2007 screenshot i think that u can find on beyondunreal of Selket standing right next to a paladin of ut2k7.

[MindRiot]

Gorge would be nice as he was in 2k3/4 and is my favourite character. I


My favorite character as well. :)


Not only do I find the question odd, but silly.

It's Unreal Tournament. In its a tournament. A tournament in which any Unreal character could enter. Hell, I'd like to see characters from other games ported over for entry into the tournament. Obviously, the character would have to be upgraded to UT2007 standards.

BTW: Was there ever any bot support modded for Unreal2 XMP?

I know that's an out of the blue question and off topic, but I've been meaning to ask, so I thought I'd try asking in a thread rather than create a new one. No online community, at least bots would allow a game. It would be nice to actually play some of the maps.

[Kronos]

It's Unreal Tournament. In its a tournament. A tournament in which any Unreal character could enter. Hell, I'd like to see characters from other games ported over for entry into the tournament. Obviously, the character would have to be upgraded to UT2007 standards.

Maybe if it were a character that matched the looks with the Unreal universe, like a gears of war character i could see in the tournments, but lets not forget that the game isnt called unreal because anything unbelievable can be in it, the title is more meant for the meaning of somthing awesomely awesome and not somthing entirely unbelievable or fake.

[Gregori]

Who is this character of my avatar, a new clan or race of cyborgs? lol

Liandri robot

[search161]

Isn't that what Real Life(tm) is for ?? :D

It never hurts to practice. :D :D


Maybe if it were a character that matched the looks with the Unreal universe, like a gears of war character i could see in the tournments, but lets not forget that the game isnt called unreal because anything unbelievable can be in it, the title is more meant for the meaning of somthing awesomely awesome and not somthing entirely unbelievable or fake.

The fact that you used awesome as an adjective for awesome is entirely unbelievable.



But I kind of like it, mind if I borrow it now and then? :)

[Kronos]

It never hurts to practice. :D :D



The fact that you used awesome as an adjective for awesome is entirely unbelievable.



But I kind of like it, mind if I borrow it now and then? :)

lol I actually think I stole it from someone else so I have no claim to that word.

[MindRiot]

Maybe if it were a character that matched the looks with the Unreal universe, like a gears of war character i could see in the tournments, but lets not forget that the game isnt called unreal because anything unbelievable can be in it, the title is more meant for the meaning of somthing awesomely awesome and not somthing entirely unbelievable or fake.

So, basically, according to your opinion there is nothing awesome about UC2 characters.

However, this wasn't my point. Besides, there isn't any definable UT2007 character standard. There is no UT2007 character mold. What I meant by UT2007 standard was specific to the creation of the character. Not the character per se, but the character's skin, etc... If the character is part of the Unreal Universe (franchise), then it should have a home in the tournaments.

[Kronos]

So, basically, according to your opinion there is nothing awesome about UC2 characters.
. I never said UC2 characters werent awesome, there original unreal characters made from epic, except raiden. The only thing I was argueing about on your post was when u said "Hell, I'd like to see characters from other games ported over for entry into the tournament." Which I think wouldnt fit at all if Master Cheif were to be entered into the tournments from the universe of Halo, it would be rediculous.

[Henrik]

Yes, no more crossovers please. That only cheapens the game, when it should be something original. And really, they should be building more on the character set they originally came up with and just pretend the last 2 games never happened. Ok, before you start whining about that comment here it is pre-emptively: stfu.

[Bishop Gantry]

My favorite character as well. :)


Not only do I find the question odd, but silly.

It's Unreal Tournament. In its a tournament. A tournament in which any Unreal character could enter. Hell, I'd like to see characters from other games ported over for entry into the tournament. Obviously, the character would have to be upgraded to UT2007 standards.

BTW: Was there ever any bot support modded for Unreal2 XMP?

I know that's an out of the blue question and off topic, but I've been meaning to ask, so I thought I'd try asking in a thread rather than create a new one. No online community, at least bots would allow a game. It would be nice to actually play some of the maps.

You might want to chek out freemonkey and what they have done to XMP
http://www.free-monkey.com/main/utxmp/index.php dunno about servers but it has bots for offline play

[MindRiot]

You might want to chek out freemonkey and what they have done to XMP
http://www.free-monkey.com/main/utxmp/index.php dunno about servers but it has bots for offline play


Not exactly what I had in mind, but I'm checking it out. :)

Thanks Bishop.

[PiratePete]

Wouldn't mind some Asian (futuristicy of course...) characters. There were plenty of asian style maps in 2k3/4 some modern and such and some futuristic.

Only seen two characters that could be considered asian. The subzero knock off twins, two guys with the face mask, remus?

Not saying go all out with swords and shiney weaponry but would be cool seeing a futuristic blend to a asain theme.

[Kronos]

Wouldn't mind some Asian (futuristicy of course...) characters. There were plenty of asian style maps in 2k3/4 some modern and such and some futuristic.

Only seen two characters that could be considered asian. The subzero knock off twins, two guys with the face mask, remus?

Not saying go all out with swords and shiney weaponry but would be cool seeing a futuristic blend to a asain theme.

Ya I think that would be somthing neat, never have seen an asian in UT before.

[Bishop Gantry]

Ya I think that would be somthing neat, never have seen an asian in UT before.


BlackJack looks pretty Asian to me...

[Kronos]

BlackJack looks pretty Asian to me...
Lol blackjack looks persian or egyptian.

[Malkav]

Liandri robot

Thanks, looks good