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DrDoomed
08-29-2006, 05:08 AM
:confused:

Jrubzjeknf
08-29-2006, 05:17 AM
hey, the 10 char limit can be bypassed by using a single smiley!

yea, good point. Perhaps the looks will change a bit in the future?

Monster w/21 Faces
08-29-2006, 05:22 AM
Because they're standard issue weapons all across the galaxy?

Why do so many nations use the Ak47 and its variants? Because it's cheap, well constructed, reliable and easily mass produced. The same could be said for Axon weapons.

CVROY
08-29-2006, 09:44 AM
It's called balance...

Hanji
08-29-2006, 09:48 AM
Because they're standard issue weapons all across the galaxy?

Why do so many nations use the Ak47 and its variants? Because it's cheap, well constructed, reliable and easily mass produced. The same could be said for Axon weapons.
You know, I'm getting annoyed at how you post your answer. I don't know why, but your annoying me...... :eek: :confused: :o

Draco
08-29-2006, 09:51 AM
lol he does have a point, although it would be impossible to make dif wepons since it would have to coinside with your charecter and if your on team blue im sure its going to be mixed up half nec half axon, and then there would be like 93884749 wepons laying around cause they would have to double the wepons and double the ammo....

and then comes the extreamly dificult part of trying to balance all the wepons but be difrent at the same time would be nearly impossible, scratch that it would be impossible cause the sec one person got beat he would blame it on the wepons...even though it may not have been

but he has a point, if they have difrent vehicles, and difrent weponry on the vehicles, and difrent clothing and or armor on there models, they obviously they should have difrent wepons as well.

maybe a good idea for epic to do is have all the wepons shoot the same exact stuff. but give any nec player a much grunger run down wepon model instead. so sure a shockrifle would look like a shock rifel for axon models. but if you were a nec model u would have a difrent looking model, and it would look broken, rundown, and dirty. but it would still function exaclty the same way a shock rifle would function. imo thats better, and much more plausable.

Monster w/21 Faces
08-29-2006, 09:56 AM
You know, I'm getting annoyed at how you post your answer. I don't know why, but your annoying me...... :eek: :confused: :o

You're not your. Please, enlighten me, what seems to be the problem?

Is it because I sound annoyed? If that's the case then you're right, I am annoyed, I'm annoyed by all these little questions that really need no answer because they really are unimportant. 'OH MY GOSH WHY DOES MALCOLM HAVE A HELMET?', 'WHY DO ALL THE TEAMS USE THE SAME WEAPONS?'.

They're mind numbing in their unimportance. If this were a single player story driven game then fine, they might have a place here, but this is an online death match based FPSer. All these things really aren't important enough to warrant their own thread, especially considering how little we actually know about the game. All will be revealed in good time.

aleXtrm
08-29-2006, 10:33 AM
You shouldn't say you some one ennoys you, just because you feel that they ennoy you, especially since you don't even know why he ennoys you. Plus you just gonna make him pissed off at you. Back on the topic, I thought about this myself before the thread was created, but I just thought that Epic already has much pressure creating two completely different sets of vehilces, which are supposed to be complitely different in every way, and still be balanced...

The_Deacon
08-29-2006, 10:42 AM
Because they're standard issue weapons all across the galaxy?

I would agree, with the additional idea that Liandri decide the weapon and vehicle load-out for each tournament. Liandri decided to add more vehicles as an option (most likely an option anyway), but they decided that all competitors should be limited to one standardised weapon load-out consisting of weapons from throughout the galaxy.

Or whatever :)

Monster w/21 Faces
08-29-2006, 10:45 AM
Indeed, it's like branded sport equipment in international sports.

Axom make the weapons, they sponsor the gladiators, they run the tournament and they sell military hardware. Why shouldn't the tournament be a giant bill board for their other business ventures?

Jake-SF
08-29-2006, 12:20 PM
Creating different vehicles already makes balancing them a really hard task, but vehicles are already easier to balance than weapons, IMO. No matter what they have weak and fast vehicles, medium and relatively powerfull vehicles, and heavy massive destruction vehicles so slow they are better used against big target...

I mean its easier to balance them than weapons. Most games where both side have differents weapons ends up being unbalanced and there is always a team stronger than the other in most situation.

Monster w/21 Faces
08-29-2006, 12:29 PM
But then warfare isn't about balance. Afterall each team has different objectives throughout the match. Not to mention the maps aren't asymmetrical.

MonsOlympus
08-29-2006, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Monster w/21 Faces
Indeed, it's like branded sport equipment in international sports.

W00t adidas linkgun ftw :D

da ghost
08-29-2006, 01:13 PM
lol it's called Liandri sponsoring the tournaments

Monster w/21 Faces
08-29-2006, 01:21 PM
Liandri, Axom and Izanagi all sponsor the tournament.

wartex
08-29-2006, 01:33 PM
I would agree, with the additional idea that Liandri decide the weapon and vehicle load-out for each tournament. Liandri decided to add more vehicles as an option (most likely an option anyway), but they decided that all competitors should be limited to one standardised weapon load-out consisting of weapons from throughout the galaxy.

Or whatever :)

yesh, well said.

Like you said, it's a tournament with tournament rules, not an "all-out-war-in-a-galaxy-far-far-away" as some might think (I hope not! :))

HellFox
08-29-2006, 01:51 PM
because thay are not "axon" weapons

JaFO
08-29-2006, 01:59 PM
It's called balance...
Nope ... balance does not have to be achieved through a one-on-one solution.
So it's not 'balance' ... it's simply is easier for the average player to understand.

The average World War 2 game has had to deal with alternate weapons from the start. And they do achieve balance (or at least Red Orchestra managed to do so).
Counterstrike has different weapon-sets for both terrorists and counter-terrorists.

Besides ... if having the same weapon would mean the game was balanced then the ultimate form of balance would be just 1 (one) weapon in the entire game. That would be even easier to balance ... ;)

I think it would be fun if they hadn't stopped at creating an alternate vehicleset.

Of course they could have done what America's Army has done : simply alter the visual aspect of the weapons.

The_Deacon
08-29-2006, 03:03 PM
Besides ... if having the same weapon would mean the game was balanced then the ultimate form of balance would be just 1 (one) weapon in the entire game. That would be even easier to balance ... ;)

*cough* instagib is the ultimate form of balance *cough*

oh wait, you winked.... :D

Janes_Addiction-
02-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Please don't make these kind fo threads, Epic might think you'e right and build different weapons for different races, and turn this game into Wow or something.

UT3 should always be a fragging game, not some Charecter driven with a plot kind of game. I'd go play something else that is out right now, if I wanted that.

Apathy
02-12-2009, 02:17 PM
hey, the 10 char limit can be bypassed by using a single smiley!

The emoticon is more then the min character limit

ThaMarine
02-12-2009, 02:48 PM
I think it would be annoying to be forced to use necris/axon type of weapons if you decide to stay on the same team for the whole time.

HellFox
02-12-2009, 02:52 PM
this thread is 2 years and a half old....

Kazimira
02-12-2009, 04:41 PM
OK... Simple solution. The necris coudnt fund makeing thair own wepons as well as decimateing the mineing colonies and makeing all thair veicles. The only other solution is to nick wepons from planets thay plunder.

Also to prevent it getting like WoW if thay make lots of diffrent wepons sets just make thigns stealable. That way if someone wants only the Necris models in a map well your all running around with Necris models.

phalanx
02-12-2009, 05:20 PM
because necris weapons would be like walker and fury... stupidly broken

SlipStreams_65
02-12-2009, 05:39 PM
*biorifle* *cough cough*

Apathy
02-12-2009, 06:34 PM
this thread is 2 years and a half old....

Oops! I hardly look at the date it was actually posted :p

Apathy
02-12-2009, 06:34 PM
because necris weapons would be like walker and fury... stupidly broken

I don't see how the darkwalker is broken.

Euxeus
02-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Because it's a game. The "necris" don't really exist, go to sleep and stop worrying.;)

phalanx
02-12-2009, 07:53 PM
the darwalker isn't, a gun that fires darkwalker beams would be though
cant sleep, necris are camping my bed

Subset
02-12-2009, 08:00 PM
Because it's a game. The "necris" don't really exist, go to sleep and stop worrying.;)
So logically consistent the necris vehicles don't really exist in game too. :D
That's as logical as the statement in post 4.
There are no necris handheld weapons because of balance.
Therefore the necris vehicles are there for inbalance. :rolleyes:

Go to sleep.

jomi294
02-12-2009, 09:07 PM
i have custom character i want my own wepz y0

Kazimira
02-12-2009, 09:12 PM
the darwalker isn't, a gun that fires darkwalker beams would be though
cant sleep, necris are camping my bed

You could go tell them to get a tent and put it up in the middle of nowhere like everybody else. :P

*imagines the five main Necris singing 'Were all going on a summer holoday!' with Loque sounding frightningly like vivian from The Young Ones.(old comedy show in the UK)*

OK bad idea even the thought of thats frightening.

LANCE.xd
02-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Didn't bother reading pages 2 and 3, but I'll post my 2 cents.

The weapons aren't from Axon just so you know. Read the bios of each weapon, they're made from separate independent companies. So there's no "team" affiliation they have. They're just useful, so every faction uses them. The only thing I found to be made by Axon is the sniper rifle, but whatever. No need to nitpick.

phalanx
02-13-2009, 07:37 AM
although we could use some other weapons.

axon are campers :D

PaWwEeZy is qM
02-13-2009, 03:06 PM
its a videogame? does it matter? LOL

1337_Sniper
02-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Rumple at Hedsteem is a Gun Trader and made his own weapons and sold them to the Axon and Necris, both. :D:D:D:D