View Full Version : NVIDIA 256 MB GeForce 7600 - how will it work with this game?
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 03:05 PM
Just wondering. It seems to be the video card specs on the computer I plan to get in the next year or so (well keep in mind this could be updated in the future).
InTheJungle
08-27-2006, 03:11 PM
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No one knows what kind of computer will be able to run UT2007. No one.
We do have some general ideas, but these are by no means official or even accurate.
* 512 MB RAM is not enough. 1024 MB will likely be an okay minimum, while 2048 MB would be great. If you're building a computer right now, shoot for 2048.
* Your last-gen 3.0 GHz Pentium 4 is not enough. Such a CPU can drag down your FPS on crowded UT2004 maps, so you shouldn't expect UT2007 to do very well with it.
* Your 6600GT is not enough. While you may be able to get by with it or something similar, it is likely you'll need more power to get through higher detail settings at a playable framerate.
* Dual-core CPUs are going to be fully supported in Unreal Engine 3 (purportedly), so all of you with higher-end AMD64 dual-cores should be fine.
* If your computer is two years old or older, do not expect it to run UT2007 well, or even at all. If you computer struggles with UT2004, there is no real reason to expect it to even launch UT2007.
* UT games have had a history of scalability, allowing them to be run on all kinds of systems when configured properly. It is likely UT2007 will be like this as well, so don't fret about being required to spend $2000 on a top-end computer just yet.
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Originally posted by T2A' on the BU forums. That's pretty much all we know.
MonsOlympus
08-27-2006, 03:12 PM
Wasnt there a demonstration recently that ran the game on a p4?
Kronos
08-27-2006, 03:29 PM
Yea and they also ran it off a 6800 i believe
InTheJungle
08-27-2006, 03:30 PM
I have a 6800GT which should be able to play it on low-medium. Gonna upgrade that to a DX10 card once DX10 and Vista is released.
Fury.T32
08-27-2006, 03:37 PM
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No one knows what kind of computer will be able to run UT2007. No one.
We do have some general ideas, but these are by no means official or even accurate.
* 512 MB RAM is not enough. 1024 MB will likely be an okay minimum, while 2048 MB would be great. If you're building a computer right now, shoot for 2048.
* Your last-gen 3.0 GHz Pentium 4 is not enough. Such a CPU can drag down your FPS on crowded UT2004 maps, so you shouldn't expect UT2007 to do very well with it.
* Your 6600GT is not enough. While you may be able to get by with it or something similar, it is likely you'll need more power to get through higher detail settings at a playable framerate.
* Dual-core CPUs are going to be fully supported in Unreal Engine 3 (purportedly), so all of you with higher-end AMD64 dual-cores should be fine.
* If your computer is two years old or older, do not expect it to run UT2007 well, or even at all. If you computer struggles with UT2004, there is no real reason to expect it to even launch UT2007.
* UT games have had a history of scalability, allowing them to be run on all kinds of systems when configured properly. It is likely UT2007 will be like this as well, so don't fret about being required to spend $2000 on a top-end computer just yet.
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Originally posted by T2A' on the BU forums. That's pretty much all we know.
if thats even close, i should be able to run ut2k7 fine on medium/high
but with the scalability they may be able to run on slower rigs.
they may even include an option to turn the 2k7 detail into that shown by 2k4, we just dont know.
isnt it better not to speculate and just wait?
GuntiNDDS
08-27-2006, 03:39 PM
isnt it better not to speculate and just wait?
who needs a forum, when all we do is wait ? :D
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 03:49 PM
who needs a forum, when all we do is wait ? :D
Well the demo should prove how much we might be able to run the game - so not as much waiting as should be.
Monster w/21 Faces
08-27-2006, 03:53 PM
Yea and they also ran it off a 6800 i believe
No they didn't. They ran a very early UE3 demo off of a 6800 towards its initial release period that showed new engine features and some Gears of War characters.
The latest E3 demonstration that can be seen in the new trailer was I believe running off of quad sli 7950s.
CounterZeus
08-27-2006, 04:06 PM
I do hope a 6600GT will be able to run it on low with decent (30+) fps. I have a 6700XL (custom oc'ed 6600GT). I also have one of those crappy pent D 830 and 1 GB of RAM.
Meledictum
08-27-2006, 05:05 PM
Maybe we should make new topic called "Sys. requirements - speculations"? I think its a good idea. BTW: GF 7600GT should make the game run on low - med detail (it propably will be something about 8 levels of detail, like in UT2004.) . but my processor... its only AMD A64 300+ with 1,8 Ghz*, 1GB RAM and not so good (but also not so bad ;)) mainboard.
*it could be overclocked to 2, maybe 2,2 GHz.
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 05:14 PM
No they didn't. They ran a very early UE3 demo off of a 6800 towards its initial release period that showed new engine features and some Gears of War characters.
The latest E3 demonstration that can be seen in the new trailer was I believe running off of quad sli 7950s.
Well the question in that matter is whether or not the game would run well on that graphics card.
Monster w/21 Faces
08-27-2006, 05:16 PM
The card was chugging with 4 player models in a huge black map so I doubt it would run the game very well but you probably will be able to run it with everything set to lowest.
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 05:42 PM
The card was chugging with 4 player models in a huge black map so I doubt it would run the game very well but you probably will be able to run it with everything set to lowest.
Yeah I was on HP's site (Hewlett-Packard) researching the computer I'm gonna get when I graduate next June. I went to their most expensive model and that's what they have down so far for a graphics card. Yes, I should be getting a computer more towards gaming, but I'm not a hardcore gamer - I just play highly interesting games like UT2004 for amusement and home entertainment.
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 05:42 PM
So sorry... I didn't think it would go through twice - but I can't seem to delete this post so it has to remain like this.
Monster w/21 Faces
08-27-2006, 05:45 PM
Yeah I was on HP's site (Hewlett-Packard) researching the computer I'm gonna get when I graduate next June. I went to their most expensive model and that's what they have down so far for a graphics card. Yes, I should be getting a computer more towards gaming, but I'm not a hardcore gamer - I just play highly interesting games like UT2004 for amusement and home entertainment.
Never ever ever buy a company made pc. Not from the makers and not from a store. Build your own. It's cheaper and you get better results.
NicAgent
08-27-2006, 06:23 PM
Never ever ever buy a company made pc. Not from the makers and not from a store. Build your own. It's cheaper and you get better results.
Like I said I'm not a hardcore gamer. And anyways building my own computer is far more risky... and no customer assistance.
The5thviruz
08-27-2006, 06:27 PM
Like I said I'm not a hardcore gamer. And anyways building my own computer is far more risky... and no customer assistance.
It requires basic screwdriver skills and adding parts onto a colour coded motherboard.
CounterZeus
08-28-2006, 04:12 AM
I already had problems with replacing a vid card, so I'm not the guy who builds his own computers... :D
Monster w/21 Faces
08-28-2006, 04:33 AM
Like I said I'm not a hardcore gamer. And anyways building my own computer is far more risky... and no customer assistance.
You don't need to be a hardcore gamer. You just have to have the inclination to get a fair deal.
If you can put a lego kit together you can build a pc.
Customer Assistance? You have the internet! Every piece of information is merely minutes away.
Draco
08-28-2006, 08:58 AM
all of you saying the game will run pooly on a 7 series card is rediculous. now granted it may not run top graphics but it will still run the game at a decent rate. all you have to do is think about it logicly,
first of all they did run the game on a 6800, AND THIS IS BEFORE THE GAME IS OPTIMIZED. all the demos and everything u have seen so far is all un optimized gaming. so it will only get better and better on worse and worse hardware as time goes on and they have the time to optimize it. they have said they will not attempt to optimize it until they are completed with the game and that is why u dont see any min sys specs yet.
secondly, if the rumors are correct the game is suposidly comming out very early 07, which is only 5-8 months away. how many more video cards do u think will be released in a 6 month span LOL. i mean sure the G80 (8 series) by nvidia is schedueled for release some time in that span of time. but u wont see another 95 video cards released, and u wont see nvidia up to a "9950GTXAOB" LOL by that time. so to think that a 7 series card wouldent be able to handle that game is obserd. do you honestly think epic would design and make a game that only a $3,000 rig could handle and or run on the day of its release? i think not, they are in it to make money and sell the game to the masses, not the select few who has a massivly expensive 1337 computer. so they will not only optimize the game a great deal, but they will make it very scalible in terms of graphics/physics/etc. to make it so that the low end user can also purchase, run, play, and enjoy the game.
so even though the min sys specs arent out, i would put my money that not only a 7 series card will be able to run the game, but also the 6 series cards as well. (granted it will be very minimal graphics for the 6 series) but it will still run the game.
Bjossi
08-28-2006, 09:22 AM
I have 7900 GTX and I'm not going to believe that UT2007 will run poorly on medium-high settings. From a marketing point of view, going ahead of the average user's PC hardware is not a good idea.
Evil Homer
08-28-2006, 11:06 AM
Like I posted in the 2004 forum, I have a lowly 6600 GT and the most I'm willing to do at the moment is get a 2.2 AMD chip and a 7800 GS OC and pray that's enough to run it....
Shadowhaxor
08-28-2006, 12:22 PM
Like I said I'm not a hardcore gamer. And anyways building my own computer is far more risky... and no customer assistance.
Who says a hardcore gamer can exactly work or install parts in their pc? Anyone can do it as long as that person can follow directions and isn't afraid of messing up their pc beyond repair :p
theeDEATHMASTER
11-15-2006, 01:53 AM
You've been reported spammer.
To answer your question, it means being a real member of the community; not some dope who joined the forum and decided to do 100+ posts in a single day.
happycat
11-15-2006, 10:36 AM
I have 7900 GTX and I'm not going to believe that UT2007 will run poorly on medium-high settings. From a marketing point of view, going ahead of the average user's PC hardware is not a good idea.
Ditto. I actually am running RObo-Blitz fully cranked (1280x1024, all settings highest) and getting framerates that float around 70-80, 50-60 in intense areas.
(7900GTX w/512mb DDR3, 2gb DDR, AthlonXP 64-bit 3700+...)
Evil Homer
11-15-2006, 10:41 AM
Ditto. I actually am running RObo-Blitz fully cranked (1280x1024, all settings highest) and getting framerates that float around 70-80, 50-60 in intense areas.
(7900GTX w/512mb DDR3, 2gb DDR, AthlonXP 64-bit 3700+...)
Just being curious, are you in SLI mode or single?!
happycat
11-15-2006, 10:53 AM
Just being curious, are you in SLI mode or single?!
Single. I was too stupid to get the deluxe verison of my motherboard (a mistake I'm hating myeslf for right now), which means my 16x PCI-E, when run in SLI, goes down to two 8x slots.
So, yeah... I'm just running one card. I'm kinda dissapointed though, because when I got it, it was $530, and now the 8000-series is out for like $100 more.
Evil Homer
11-15-2006, 10:57 AM
Just wondering... I'm looking at buying two 7900 in hopes that it will run 2007 on high settings.... Be nice to play Quake 4 other than low on my 6600 GT :mad:
Gearbox
11-15-2006, 02:10 PM
WAIT FOR THE DEMO
theeDEATHMASTER
11-15-2006, 02:38 PM
How about a single 8800gtx? It will probably run UT2k7 a lot better too, not to mention cheaper than 2 7900gtx's.
Hanji
11-15-2006, 04:16 PM
The 8800GTS is way cheaper and loses out a weee little bit, so the 8800GTS is better, 8800GTX is overpriced and requires a PSU with the +12 plug with 30amps, wtf.
armagon917
11-15-2006, 07:33 PM
I have 7900gtx SLI in my PC. Oblivion runs better on my PC then xbox so I assume Gears of War would play better if it were playing on my PC. Being an unreal engine 3 title that my basis for comparison. I know its kinda shotty and not an apples to apples comparison. There are a lot of other things to take into account as well. I bet ut2007 will have higher resolution textures. Tim Sweeney did say that a 6800 ultra will run the game well on high at 1024X768.
So thats from the man himself. You could look at benchmarks of other video cards and compare to find out what you need. But the most important thing is that Epic will not release a game that wont make money. They have to hit a large install base. So I would say if you have a high end card now your in good shape.
theeDEATHMASTER
11-15-2006, 07:48 PM
Or get it after the game comes out for cheaper :p
Phopojijo
11-15-2006, 08:56 PM
Just wondering... I'm looking at buying two 7900 in hopes that it will run 2007 on high settings.... Be nice to play Quake 4 other than low on my 6600 GT :mad:Why buy a pair of 7900's when a single 8800 is more future proof and humps a 7950GX2 dual-gpu card even in DX9 mode.
Evil Homer
11-15-2006, 09:00 PM
Why buy a pair of 7900's when a single 8800 is more future proof and humps a 7950GX2 dual-gpu card even in DX9 mode.
Good point but this whole single vs. SLI thing is bugging me... So if I buy one 8800 will do the work of two 7900's ?! :confused:
theeDEATHMASTER
11-15-2006, 11:06 PM
no it will cost a lot less and it will work on future dx10 games while a 7900gtx which is a dx9 card will only be able to render dx9 graphics. Go for what you want but IMO it's stupid to buy sli 7900gtx this late, might as well make it 2 8800gtx's if you really want sli, cost a few more bucks but it should be worth it (haven't actually seen the benchmarks for that yet).
[uMA]Decayed
11-15-2006, 11:08 PM
Just wondering... I'm looking at buying two 7900 in hopes that it will run 2007 on high settings.... Be nice to play Quake 4 other than low on my 6600 GT :mad:
That sucks man. I could play Quake 4 at medium on 12x10 on a 9800 pro.
Hanji
11-16-2006, 02:47 AM
no it will cost a lot less and it will work on future dx10 games while a 7900gtx which is a dx9 card will only be able to render dx9 graphics. Go for what you want but IMO it's stupid to buy sli 7900gtx this late, might as well make it 2 8800gtx's if you really want sli, cost a few more bucks but it should be worth it (haven't actually seen the benchmarks for that yet).
T3H agree.
Henrik
11-16-2006, 06:12 AM
I saw that an 8800 GTX gets something like 45,000 in 3dmark 03. a 7900 GTX gets maybe 20,000 :P
Hanji
11-16-2006, 04:47 PM
You should have seen what it did on 3DMark2006, but thats 3DMark, it doesn't really give real world performance, see some benchy results in Oblivion, Quad SLI 7950GX2 is PWNED.
Evil Homer
11-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Would be nice for Epic to at least mention the lowest card that it will play on low settings....
GG-Xtreme
11-16-2006, 10:18 PM
I've played the RoboBlitz (UE3) demo. It runs on maximum settings (1280x1024, 2xAA, 8xAF) on my pc with no lag and about 40Fps:
P4 2.8GHz HT (apparently has full HT support)
1GB DDR2 400 SDRAM
GeForce 7600GT 256MB
I know the game is not as big and detailed as UT2k7, but the graphics are great. Also, hitting F2 ingame takes away UE3 eyecandy (ex. HDR) and makes it look like UE2 (just hit F3 to switch back), but I think F4 is for DX10 or something... Hope this helps.
Henrik
11-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Yeah I am foreseeing good things based on people's performance in RB. We can be sure UT2007 will be much more demanding in terms of onscreen action, but hopefully this will be offset somewhat by optimizations in newer engine builds.
My system:
AMD 64 3200+
1 GB DDR400
Gainward 7800 GS Golden Sample+ AGP 512MB (uses a 7900 GTX core)
I am pretty confident it will run well at mid/high settings on my machine. I may upgrade to 2 gb RAM by the time the game arrives.
Gearbox
11-17-2006, 07:43 PM
Why yes, why shouldn't some ****ty little indoor game featuring a robot and 2 vicious mouse traps graphically compare to a fast paced 32-man battle with huge vehicles and explosions over a 10 km draw distance
Henrik
11-17-2006, 07:54 PM
I certainly didn't imply it would.
GG-Xtreme
11-18-2006, 10:07 AM
well, shoot for dual-core, 2GB memory and at least a 7600gt and ushould be fine. a bigger game is more cpu intensive, not so much gpu
where did you get the 10km drawdistance? even Crysis doesnt draw that far!
DagnyTaggart
11-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Like I said I'm not a hardcore gamer. And anyways building my own computer is far more risky... and no customer assistance.
I built a computer for the very first time early last year. It really wasn't too hard, but I also spent a year doing lots of hardware research. The benefits are huge--instead of cheap proprietary components that are hard to upgrade you get to pick high quality feature-packed components (such as a good motherboard and a high-end power supply--both very important).
I suggest that you start by hanging out at the website http://www.Anandtech.com and join the discussion forums. You'll probably enjoy the Video (cards) forum if you're a gamer.
Kronos
11-27-2006, 12:38 PM
No they didn't. They ran a very early UE3 demo off of a 6800 towards its initial release period that showed new engine features and some Gears of War characters.
The latest E3 demonstration that can be seen in the new trailer was I believe running off of quad sli 7950s.
ah, well thats new news thats long time ago. thx :)
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