The reason why people hate survival

[legacy-InnermostPhear]

The waiting.

Two people will fight, then when they get injured they will run around finding adren. until they can fight again. Usually ends up in 5 minute battles.

Two people around a corner, but to avoid contact, they will do numerous shock combos, just cuz they have the spare ammo.

One person is severely weak, so he melee lunges anywhere as fast as he can

one person activates speed and agility to run away

and the people who have the ovaries to camp

hope this discourages you in playing SV

[legacy-fenix1729]

that's why I like to play survival without health pick-ups.

[legacy-Kr4wL]

Stop being a whining **** and don't play ****ing survival then. DUH!

[legacy-InnermostPhear]

Stop being a whining **** and don't play ****ing survival then. DUH!

[face_talk_hand] [image=http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b116/Innermostfurr/sapp.jpg]

please:

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[legacy-Tutenarak]

The waiting.


...and the people who have the ovaries to camp...




:^O

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Yup Survival blows.

It's for *****boy's too scared to just for for a FFA in DM.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Shred, that proves how much of a dolt you are.

*****'s play DM, because you can leech kills and never have to play a real fight and still win.

Survival is for THE players.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

ok...dude whatever you say man.

SV is for pussies who wanna run from death.

Dm is for those who can play well enough to avoid death.


Leaching kills????

WTF..LOL

Your fukin pathetic dude, how do you "leech" a kill...ROFL.

K

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Your talking rubbish. EVERY good player runs at low health, EVERY good player, wether its DM TDM or SV.

Leaching kills it eh main focus point in DM.

Every good player on the forums will testement to what I just said.

Leeching a kill : When somone comes along, interupts your fight and takes what was going to be your kill.

No skill is needed for that kindof thing.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Like I said whatever you say.

again what is leeching kills???

LOL

You do realize that this is the only game EVER to have such a game mode besisdes UC1.

IN the truly competitive online games like oh...counterstrike, UT04, Halo...any FPS.The main game modes played are CTF and DM.

The people who like to run play CTF(not a bad thing).The people who have skills at killing multiple opponents play DM.

How about we play and I'll godlike you on a DM with godlike bots on, then we'll see what you think...PM me your tag.

In a neutral server of couse...I got a buddy that could host who's in St.Louis...I'm in Atlanta..so the serv would be fairly centrally located...put up or shut up.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Wow, yet again demonstrating how much of an idiot you are.

I explained kill leeching, and I only post for people who understand what somone says the first time it's said.

Here's where you start getting funny, comparing UC2 to games that have a completely different style of gameplay, and even getting the information wrong on the games.

Counter Strike: This was the funniest part, claiming CS has DM game modes by standard, and that this game is centralised round objective based gameplay. The latter is true, but that doesnt mean anything here, because survival doesnt match CS gameplay. You idiot.

Halo: Survival would be stupid with this game because it would just be spawn killing, hence, the gameplay doesnt match.

Until you gain a decent understanding of games and why they feature the game modes they do, you should just shut your mouth.

[legacy-5parda]

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

survival aint for pussies. dm is for pussies, killing from the back. but dm is always harder to survive in, at the end of the day, as rapists are behind you, sucking your life.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

exactly.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I do tend to rape....as I will you.

Accept the challenge or not Hell Splooge???

Guess what little girlies...If you can't handle "The rapist behind you" you fukin suk...simple as that.

I rarely get "leeched" as you call it, cause I can actually play w/o boundries.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

shred you do tend to rape at what?

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Unless your willing to ''rape'' me in a british neutral server, than no.

I dont need to challenge anyone to prove my arguement, my arguement proves itself, with fact, witness, and the general idiocy of the opponent.

Drop your adhominem attitude towards arguement, and accept you are not argueing objectivley, and neither are you by rights to claim what you do when everyone agrees with what I have said.

[legacy-Ghetto_Ravers]

Leeching kills does happen a lot in DMs. Survivals is the best 1 on 1 confrontations. Hell Spunk defined it correctly. People will run in any gametype regardless for health and weapon pickups.

[legacy-BlackKnightOfH8]

No such thing as leeching kills. It's kill or be killed. I'm so sick of people *****ing about "Oh you stole my kill." If they were your kill then you'd have killed them already by the time whoever else got there. Anyone who *****es about getting their kills "stolen" are just bad a effectively killing other players.

[snoogans460]

No such thing as leeching kills. It's kill or be killed. I'm so sick of people *****ing about "Oh you stole my kill." If they were your kill then you'd have killed them already by the time whoever else got there. Anyone who *****es about getting their kills "stolen" are just bad a effectively killing other players.

I agree big guy. Personally, I have an affinity for every gametype, but I'm definitely better at Deathmatch than Survival. I wouldn't say that Deathmatch players are better than Survival or vice versa. Each gametype takes a different approach where you're forced to change tactics on the fly.

For me, I'm better at fighting when there's a whole lotta commosion ensuing around me. Survival puts too much pressure on my game, since I only have that small window of opportunity to stay alive, thus, it becomes difficult to find a zone that let's my full potential shine through. In other words, I'm back to square one after every death - therefore, being unable to find my rhythm.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Kill leeching DOES exist.

The only difference between you and somone else who says it exists, is the fact you dont have a problem withit.

Neither do I, because I dont play DM for that reason, and others.

Survival is the test of skill, and in DM you run if your low on health too, so Shreds comparison between them is very ill-thought out.

[legacy-blackm0n]

survival shows indivdual skill unlike deathmatch its all about coming from behind and whoring powerups

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

I think that DM is ok...but it's definately not as skillful as SV. In DMs you could go to work on someone and if you're not quick enough.....someone else can come from out of nowhere and steal the kill. I'm not complaining...that's the truth. In SVs & 1 on 1 DMs, you're only pit up against one opponent without worrying about losing your kill to someone else. You can go to work on your opponent at ease. That is unless the SVs are set up as 3 or more opponents simultaneously

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

Survival is people running away and whoever can collect the most health wins

[legacy-ra1n]

i play 1v1, just not SV.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Survival is people running away and whoever can collect the most health wins

LoL.

Half ofit is stopping the other person getting health.

Alot of people cant fathom that though, can they? [face_raised_brow]

[legacy-Primitive]

Shred, that proves how much of a dolt you are.

*****'s play DM, because you can leech kills and never have to play a real fight and still win.

Survival is for THE players.

AMEN[face_peace]

[legacy-Devil]

Everytime I see your sig primitive, it makes me smile, no offence intended, but I still can't come to terms how anyone can take seriously a clan called Gnome.

[image=http://www.picture-newsletter.com/gardengnome/garden-gnome-pipe-9r.jpg]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well I guess getting godlikes in 32 player servers on the PC iterations of the game make me think people looking for round robin 1v1 just can't take the heat.

I knew'd you'd back down, Hell Splooge.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

shred what are the specs for unreal tournament 2004?

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Well I guess getting godlikes in 32 player servers on the PC iterations of the game make me think people looking for round robin 1v1 just can't take the heat.

I knew'd you'd back down, Hell Splooge.

Arf, I get it, YOU call me out, AND expect me to play with lag?

Your threats are hollow, little man.

[snoogans460]

shred what are the specs for unreal tournament 2004?Operating System: Windows® 98/Me/2000/XP
Processor: Pentium® III or AMD Athlon 1.0 GHz processor or faster (1.5 GHz or faster processor recommended)
Memory: 128 MB RAM minimum (256 MB recommended)
Hard Disk Space: 5.5 GB free
Video: Any Windows-compatible video card(NVIDIA GeForce 2 or ATI Radeon with at least 64 megs of video memory recommended)
Sound: Windows®-compatible sound card. NVIDIA® nForce(tm) or other motherboards/soundcards containing the Dolby® Digital Interactive Content Encoder required for Dolby Digital audio
DirectX®: DirectX® version 8.1(included)or higher
Multiplayer: Internet (TCP/IP) and LAN (TCP/IP)play supported | 33.6K baud modem or broadband Internet connection recommended

Hope this helps. I'm playing on a new Dell Inspirion 1200 Lap-Top myself. I have a...

1.4 GHz Celeron M Processor
1 GB RAM
Integrated Accelerator Graphics Card
24X CD/DVD Drive

I'm pushing this low-end lap-top to its limits and UT 2004 runs surprisingly well on it. Granted, the game needs to be turned down to its ugliest form, but I make due with a content attitude. I only bought this computer to finish editing my autobiography and for surfing the web, so actually being able to playing a few games on it is considered a mere bonus.[face_monkey]

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

thank you snoogans, my computer seems to be alot more like your laptop than the overall specs, it has helped,thank you
anywhere i can get a demo from?

[snoogans460]

Gamespot, IGN, or any of those major online gaming sites should do. Otherwise, try Beyond Unreal, Planet Unreal, or just type in Unreal Tournament 2004 on the web.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

@Tug:

Minimus: 1.0 ghz processor

256MB ram

64mbDDR Graphics card.

again these are the BARE minumum.
If you running it on a syste like this, then you'll need to run it in 8800x600 resolution, and in 16 bit color.

I turn off death messages,player portraits, and crap like that to increse frames anyway,This is proabaly a nessesity at lower system levels.







@Hell babybatter

Yeah and I think your a little bull****ter *****boy....Tug is this dude a Brit for real???

I think your not a BRit, and are just makin excuses.

You got a big mouth but not the ass to back it up.

Besides...We can play on Dedi where it's fair.

EXCUSES!!!

That's ok though.

I would expect such pussieness from a survival touter!

Oh and remember the name of this thread you ass!!!

[legacy-Ghetto_Ravers]

How about we play and I'll godlike you on a DM with godlike bots on, then we'll see what you think...PM me your tag.

[face_laugh] how do you plan on making a challenge in a DM while having bots in them? Just make it a 1 on 1 DM, it's a much better challenge. Bots in game provoke lag a lot more than usual anyway.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Fine fine...1v1 whatever..Though the point here is handleing multiple opponents.

Besides...1v1 dm=SV.

[legacy-xoxNooBxox]

@Hell babybatter

Yeah and I think your a little bull****ter *****boy....Tug is this dude a Brit for real???

I think your not a BRit, and are just makin excuses.

You got a big mouth but not the ass to back it up.

Besides...We can play on Dedi where it's fair.

EXCUSES!!!

That's ok though.

I would expect such pussieness from a survival touter!

Oh and remember the name of this thread you ass!!!

Yeah he's a brit and i think your the one with all the talk. I'd love to see a 1v1 with you 2 guys and i'm also willing to make a dedicated for you guys if you just tell me when.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Shared, stop being a whiny little *****.

This is a perfect example of how most people on this forum react when proven wrong. ***** ***** *****, ***** some more, than challenge to a 1v1 with the conditions being your enemy has to play with lag dis-advantage.

Your pathetic, now sit the f*ck down.

[legacy-xoxNooBxox]

How the **** do you know he's stood up in the 1st place?
Who types stood up?
Nice come back though.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

How are you wrong on an opinion???

That just slays me.

The more you post the more I see what a child you are.

Your still *****footing around....and you backed your ***** ass down.

So I'll challenge you again.

I challenge you do a DM on a neutral server, like a Unreal server.There are a few with bots.As players join in they'll be gone anyhow.
I'll show you what I mean boy.The point of this is to see what you can do in a high player count DM FFA, and I'll show you what true pwnage is.

I'll at least get a massacre, and if we turn the kills up it'll be godlike.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

It comes down to fact, and has been since the beginning. Because you are re-writing what people can and cannot do in both DM and SV. And you are plainly wrong about it.

I aint playing with dis-advantage. Which I am in an American server of any kind. I will happily kick your ass in a british one, other-wise, STFU.

You havnt seen me play, and judging by your plain idiocy when it comes to information about this game, I wouldnt say you could get a godlike on an average player, let alone me.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

If ya thin I'm so clueless then surley you could handle me in any server.
Your not British.

Tell me who the first recognized king of England was.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Just because Im british I should know that?

There is like, 7 people on Live who will tell you I'm british, you dolt.

Your clueless, but who's to say your host isnt gonna be unplayable?

Now, if you would be so kind as to STFU embarressing yourself, I have more important things to do than show up your basic knowledge of UC2. Like sleep.

[legacy-SW0RN_ENEMY]

who is this inermost fear person anyways and why is he always posting pointless bull? came out of nowhere, did you just get the internet? You should try the dungeon and dragons forums. Not that IVe ever been to anything remotely related to dungeons and dragons at all but you just seem like one of those kids who would love to talk about their favourite magic spell or some crazy pointless **** like that. I dont know why I hate you, I just find your posts ignorant and ive decided you annoy me. who gives a ****...dont play survival if u dont like it.

Oh and dont post stupid ****, it makes you look like an anus.

[legacy-Captain_Karkos]

Devb and Hell Spunk, calm down.

Hell Spunk is British, I have played with him before, so you two can set that aside. By the looks of things, you two will never play eachother, as you both seem dead set against playing in any disadvantageous situation, anyways, so you can both calm down.

You two were both fun to play with when I did end up in the same room as one of you (as short a time as it was with the both of you), so it is a shame to see you both bickering here.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

shred he is a brit, he has his server up alot....

Shred is good at dm, but if its 1vs1 why not play survival?

[legacy-ra1n]

I played with mega, quad, and armor in promodeq3. So i do the same in UC2 since it makes it harder.

[legacy-onenation]

Your talking rubbish. EVERY good player runs at low health, EVERY good player, wether its DM TDM or SV.

Leaching kills it eh main focus point in DM.

Every good player on the forums will testement to what I just said.

Leeching a kill : When somone comes along, interupts your fight and takes what was going to be your kill.

No skill is needed for that kindof thing.

Don't say every good player because your sorry ass runs. I agree with thte thread starter, except, most of them run not only in SV, but in every thing, even DM and especially TDM.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Thats your issue, running away when your about to die makes logical sense, and there is no reason not to do it.

If you dont agree with it, and you stand your ground everytime, your just stupid.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

who wants to die, i would rather run and get health, survive and get a kill

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

I'm curious....since when is it wrong to run away when a players' health is low?? The point of the game is to survive so that you'll have a better chance to gain kills. I'm shocked to see how many people are surprised that people run away when playing these gametypes. Obviously you boys who think this way, don't actually know what you're doing.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Prezactamondo.

[legacy-Junior]

personally I prefer SV to DM. The key to SV is knowing how to finish off kills and knowing how to get out of tough situations. If someone runs away from you then its your fault for not killing them when you had the chance and don't get mad at me when I wall jump my way out of certain death. What you espect me to do let you kill me? Its called survival for a reason dumb ass.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I just hate waitng 10 minutes to go 1v1 with someone.

I dont have that kind of patience.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Gives you extra reason to survive.

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

I just hate waitng 10 minutes to go 1v1 with someone.

I dont have that kind of patience.

exactley...I have no patience either, I enjoy team based games

[legacy-augy]

I can't believe you guys actually feel the compulsion to argue about this ****.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Yeha I know...i fell stupid now Augy so there!!!!!!!

[snoogans460]

Like I said earlier, it's too difficult to find a rhythm while having to be patient for your turn. Survival is still fun though, it make you feel as if everyone is watching you center stage.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

^See I hate being watched.

I traverse maps in very unconventional ways, and don't like to give up my moves...or where I may appear.

[legacy-SweetPhil15]

I personally love Survival, yet I do not hate DeathMatch. In SV you test you abilities against one opponent, in survival there are no excuses for getting killed. In DeathMatch everytime you kill someone they constantly ***** because there happened to be another person trying to kill them, and I tell them to deal with it. Both modes are good but Survival puts TRUE SKILL to the test.

enough said.

[legacy-Sparezno-1]

I wont be discouraged by somone elses misfortunes. Im fond of survival because it allowz you to breathe and have more concentration than Deathmatch. You work for the kill and get it without someone else interfering,gunning down your neck.

[legacy-Zionix]

Why dont you just get good at the game. you dont wait if you win. its not survivals fault you suck dick at UC2

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Why dont you just get good at the game. you dont wait if you win. its not survivals fault you suck dick at UC2

[face_applause]

[legacy-JDOG]

I JUST HATE WAITING i NORMALLY don't mind if people are going at it but the running can get on mye nerves. Sometimes I have patience and will watch the way players play, their style, the routes they take, and what not. But most of the time I am impatient and want to be moving around. PLus I hate some players styles of play. I hate it when people basically refuse to fight and run the whole freaking match. And some adrenaline move can become unnerving at times.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Survival adds depth, where-as Deathmatch adds complete gayness.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

all gametypes, depends on a different skill. survival is more individual based though

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

Wait, how is shooting somone in the back a skill? Its a personality fault.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

surviving in dm is harder, against multiple opponants

[legacy-Biohazardx317]

I dont have anything against DM but SV does take alot more skill.Unless its a 1v1 with no power-up's.But other than that i hate being shot on the Back.[face_shame_on_you]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well I know this much....there is not gonna be survival on UT07..so better get used to DM if you plan to continue in the Unreal games on the next gen.

[legacy-JDOG]

surviving in dm is harder, against multiple opponentsend quote. Survival is good to settle one on one disputes. Dm takes more skill concentration and awareness, esp. on crammed maps.

[snoogans460]

I wont be discouraged by somone elses misfortunes. Im fond of survival because it allowz you to breathe and have more concentration than Deathmatch. You work for the kill and get it without someone else interfering,gunning down your neck.

See, I'm the exact opposite. Deathmatch allows me to breath better and become more relaxed in my gaming rhythm. I enjoy the crazed fiasco with players bouncing around everywhere. Why? Got me. If I stubble upon someone 1 vs. 1 on Deathmatch, my confidence level is much higher than in Survival. I suppose it all comes down to preference. Some people are better at Survival, while others can dominate a Deathmatch arena. It all depends on how comfortable one feels with a certain gametype.

[legacy-fenix1729]

when you see two guys without any skill trying to kill each other for half and hours, that's just wrong. Specially when one is injured and running and the other doesn't hunt him, instead let him heal. But still, survival mode is fine.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I wont be discouraged by somone elses misfortunes. Im fond of survival because it allowz you to breathe and have more concentration than Deathmatch. You work for the kill and get it without someone else interfering,gunning down your neck.

See, I'm the exact opposite. Deathmatch allows me to breath better and become more relaxed in my gaming rhythm. I enjoy the crazed fiasco with players bouncing around everywhere. Why? Got me. If I stubble upon someone 1 vs. 1 on Deathmatch, my confidence level is much higher than in Survival. I suppose it all comes down to preference. Some people are better at Survival, while others can dominate a Deathmatch arena. It all depends on how comfortable one feels with a certain gametype.

Same here.


I do ont buy all this crap about SV, I just think they cant handle DM.
most anyway.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

i can hold my own in any gamemode, no dought. i just seem to own more in survival, and tend not be the one spectating.

[legacy-Sparezno-1]

Same here.


I do ont buy all this crap about SV, I just think they cant handle DM.
most anyway.


Its probobly so you barely had enough to buy the game, so im not suprised that you dont buy it. Hell,Im not sellin' it to ya. Im just stating an opinion. I can handle DeathMatch just as much as I could handle you. This time ill have the TV on AUX insted of Comedy Central.

[legacy-H3ll_5punk]

I wont be discouraged by somone elses misfortunes. Im fond of survival because it allowz you to breathe and have more concentration than Deathmatch. You work for the kill and get it without someone else interfering,gunning down your neck.

See, I'm the exact opposite. Deathmatch allows me to breath better and become more relaxed in my gaming rhythm. I enjoy the crazed fiasco with players bouncing around everywhere. Why? Got me. If I stubble upon someone 1 vs. 1 on Deathmatch, my confidence level is much higher than in Survival. I suppose it all comes down to preference. Some people are better at Survival, while others can dominate a Deathmatch arena. It all depends on how comfortable one feels with a certain gametype.

Same here.


I do ont buy all this crap about SV, I just think they cant handle DM.
most anyway.

The words of somone who knows his opinion is plain ad-hominem but decided to cover it up with ''your all lieing because you cant handle my game!''

*Salutes*

[legacy-ra1n]

UD / super health makes matches flow faster. Even if one person dominates them they could be getting item camped all game and just be breaking even. SV makes it so that if there is a person that can only be killed by one person in the server occasionally; He/she will dominate. In 1v1 dm. It will be 1 of 2 things. A good fight or a slaughter.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

if you get in a good survival game. every1 will be able to every1.

[legacy-ra1n]

tug you know better... hehe :) in the higher skill bracket, we don't have time to sit and watch others dilly around doing the same things we did 10x faster in a match 30 min earlier. I'd rather see the opponents style when i fight them rather than study them in spec mode. DM games with a 15 to 20 score limit are ideal for everyone's basic genre of SV gameplay style. Why not more dm servers for 2 people... Matches should go 30 min 20 min at the least; so there can at least be a test on item domination of 2 players not 5 to 6 random ones.

When you get a whole bunch of people that screw up the movement flow of the level it gets really annoying and actually delays the process of the match. It's like calling a time out constantly in a football game. You only get so many b4 people at home start falling asleep watching it on TV. That's what happens when i join a SV game. People take a time out and play around till the other person gets bored and loses concentration on the whole game. I've actually seen a heavy character with like 20 life hide in the open by a single health pack and get it 5 times b4 a dumb ass got full ammo just to die by that same heavy by that same health pack. btw the health pack spawned a 6th time and he got it right after the guy died.

I quit playing SV totally after i sat for 4 min watching this.

I donno i find more fun + skill taking out someone using a SR and UD than i do sniping the final hit on a kill i didn't earn. I play DM for that. It's called hunting for a multi kill.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

i see where your coming from, totally. i used to have the opinion myself. back when i played nothing but ctf. then i just started playing with gravity and peace, in survival. i liked it cus even though your waiting around survival in my eyes requires alot less concentration.
i think its down to who you play with in survival aswell.
i dont want to be in a survival match where im gonna 10-0 all the time,thats pointless. thats why i play with, sh0ck,ezjamin,kaotik. i know i aint gonna 10-0 these guys. i know you dont like survival, but if your ever up for a game, feel free to join a server that we're in. [face_happy]

[legacy-JDOG]

I can't stand playing survival where people refuse to fight. I get bored then, but when I play with shock and tug and other good players I normally just get raped. DM is my favorite more often than not but sometimes I am in survival mood.

[legacy-SweetPhil15]

Opinions don't really determine if a gametype is good or not. At its core Unreal games were based entirely on deathmatch and CTF. In dm your attention has to be very sharp and percise to get the kill, but on the other hand you are constantly fighting multiple opponents, thus you are always getting shot from behind. In SV you are going 1v1,however if you are about to get the kill the other person runs away and goes for health/adren, but your not facing as many problems you may encounter in deathmatch. Both are good but I feel more satisfaction for getting a legit kill over somebody in sv(personal opinion).