ITS OKAY TO SPLIT UP CLAN MEMBERS IN A TEAM GAME TO MAKE FAIR TEAMS~!!!!!!!

[legacy-Rorgy]

Watch the language.

today i was playing team deathmatch...and there were 2 okay people..and 2 godlike people

so instead of making the teams even and fair and fun...the wost was a whore and said..godlike players vs u guys..because the godlike players were in teh same clan...
so my team (the sucky team) was being owned..and the other team was smack talking...OF COURSE YOUR GOING TO WIN *!


i think more people would playthis game if some of the people on here weren't total *... about half of the games i play people complain about how nobody plays unreal...but then in a team game the same people *****ing about how nobody plays it...makes the teams so uneven...and so unfun for the new players that i didn't even want to playt unreal anymore ...if that was my first day and that happened to me..i would never play this game..ever ...again

[snoogans460]

I'm sorry to hear about your online experience man. Truthfully, I've found myself in a few similar situations - being stuck on a less-skillful team with a Novice player, simply to get owned by two Masterfuls. You're absolutely right that more experienced players should see the obvious mis-match, bestow the benefit of the doubt, and for the sake of everyone - even-up the teams.

After all, it would make the whole experience much more enjoyable and unpredictable. Not to mention, the more skillful players could give a few pointers to the up-and-coming gamers, instead of trash talking like a bunch of arrogant buffoons. Personally, any time I see teams uneven, I make every effort to balance them out, or possibly switch if there's too many players on one specific team (the same goes for any online game).

Anyhow, it's truly unfortunate that our community is filled with so many nincompoops (that's being nice), because the egos among many of these individuals prevents me from playing UC2 online most-days (sad, but true). Plus, I never bother wearing a stupid head-set. I'd suggest making an effort to find some reall cool people to play with, that'll undoubtedly make your experience more fun.

My Gamertag is... snoogans460

[legacy-XoVeNmiTsX]

play deathmatch or survival, i dont think theres a way to play unstacked teams for TDM

[legacy-blackm0n]

[face_frustrated] darn everything cant be perfect... dam i shud hurt myself becuz the teams are nto fair

[legacy-XxANTMANxX]

He talking about me and curtiscal I think

[legacy-fenix1729]

I think is okay, unfair but okay. So instead of joining a clan server, join a server where there are no clans.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

just keep to survival.

[legacy-legend]

[face_thinking] I find this to be.....Pointless. Look buddy there are other servers out there that you can join or host your own were a clan and we like to play on the same team. Don't think we haven't played agenst each other becuse we have. We have a team A and team B and we have fun macths every now and then. Don't like it then just leave the server why would you wasit every ones time with this?[face_tired]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

THe fact of the matter is, most XBL gamers don't give two $hits about being "fair", or competitive.They just wanna win and belive they're "the best" at the game.

Thats why when I want to have a truly competitve game that matters to me, I go play on PC, and feel just fine with it, you may run into the team thing...but its cause most people dont realize there are unbalanced teams when theres like 16 players in a game.Someone will go: "TEAMS!!!" then of couse, someone WILL change to balance teams for the good of the game.

On XBL this is almost unheard of....

Here's the deal:

Wanna play at recess with school kids, go to XBL, wanna come play with adults , then come to PC...plain and simple.

[legacy-legend]

Hmmmm...So that's what you think well i can't say anything to that becuse thats what you think and it could be true or not. Now frist off don't you think clans would enjoy playing on the same team??

[legacy-blackm0n]

noru crazy im ajoin your clan to be on the opposite team[face_silly]

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

Watch the language.

today i was playing team deathmatch...and there were 2 okay people..and 2 godlike people

so instead of making the teams even and fair and fun...the wost was a whore and said..godlike players vs u guys..because the godlike players were in teh same clan...
so my team (the sucky team) was being owned..and the other team was smack talking...OF COURSE YOUR GOING TO WIN *!


i think more people would playthis game if some of the people on here weren't total *... about half of the games i play people complain about how nobody plays unreal...but then in a team game the same people *****ing about how nobody plays it...makes the teams so uneven...and so unfun for the new players that i didn't even want to playt unreal anymore ...if that was my first day and that happened to me..i would never play this game..ever ...again

If I see you in a server next time I'll help you out I am used to it, they can't handle me anyways.....

[legacy-legend]

Words I'am looking for...hmmm...That would be the day lol! And you two are welcome into any hb server with open arms.[face_hugs]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Hmmmm...So that's what you think well i can't say anything to that becuse thats what you think and it could be true or not. Now frist off don't you think clans would enjoy playing on the same team??

Well Im in one of the largest clans in 2k4, and that just not an option most of the time.We actually enjoy playing AGAINST one another more than against others.....guess why...thers actually competition.
Most XBL players think that they're competitive, but they're not, they just wanna win.BIGGG difference.It can be hard to understand this for some of you guys until you experince gamers with TRUE edicut first hand.If all you know is XBL, than you'd find it hard to agrree.

If you stop and REALLY think about it, it's kinda chilish to be that way.
I can understand wanting to team up with your buddies etc, but ALL THE TIME???

Just remember this: ITs a GAME, its meant to have fun with.If you care about the life span of the game you enjoy, you'll promote others, besides yourself, having fun.I almost NEVER go full force on people.IT just would'nt be fun then for me or them.Its' too easy to do that.I pride myself on holding back, while still maintaing a good score, and allowing others to enjoy themselves.
Example:
I kill lets say oh, Snoogans (good friend just an example), then I kill him again, and again...he keeps gunning for me specifically......well I'd let him get me, and make it seem legit...that way he's like "haha I got him"

too many gamers are selfish.

There comes a point when the bragging right really are stupid, and everyone just wants to have fun...ya know.

Check this out:
I saw a news report tonight about child predators on XBL.....guess what they said??FOR REAL NO LIE I SWEAR....channel 2 WSB here in Atlanta 11:00 news not even an hour ago.

"Predators go where the children are"

The coupe de grace:

What the real deal is most clans feel insecure without they're buddy on thier back...its about trust....but of your SOOOO good, then any teamate will do....IMO!

[legacy-legend]

Hmmm....what dose that have to do with anything ok like I care? I don't need ppl to back me up in a game or life.

[legacy-Rorgy]

i try sooo hard to be a fair player...but with each passing day i find the only way to be a fair player is to use cheap moves...i would host my own server but people complain about that...i try not to complain..but sometimes i get so frustrated that i like to complain ...the only reason i dont play team games is because of the whole uneven things..but i always host a dedicated server for team games..

and i wasn't talking about any HB players..u guys are nomally pretty fair i was talking about antman and curtiscal

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Hmmm....what dose that have to do with anything ok like I care? I don't need ppl to back me up in a game or life.

I rest my case.

[snoogans460]

[quote=legend]
Just remember this: ITs a GAME, its meant to have fun with.If you care about the life span of the game you enjoy, you'll promote others, besides yourself, having fun.I almost NEVER go full force on people.IT just would'nt be fun then for me or them.Its' too easy to do that.I pride myself on holding back, while still maintaing a good score, and allowing others to enjoy themselves.
Example:
I kill lets say oh, Snoogans (good friend just an example), then I kill him again, and again...he keeps gunning for me specifically......well I'd let him get me, and make it seem legit...that way he's like "haha I got him"

too many gamers are selfish.

There comes a point when the bragging right really are stupid, and everyone just wants to have fun...ya know.







Shred, I was going to mention this earlier myself. It's nice to have people such as yourself who are willing to take the time out and help others along the way - like you did for me in UT2004.

Also, whenever I find myself playing against noobs on UC2, I never play full throttle. Otherwise, they'll simply quit - happens all the time. You're also one hundred percent correct when saying there's a difference between winning and being competitive.

Heck, lately I've been enjoying PC gaming more as well. Plus, bragging is pretty pointless. Take for example that Fatal1ty character who wins all those tournaments. Now, I'll give this guy credit for being a great PC player, however, I can easily see through the guy and read his true character.

He doesn't care about anyone but himself and winning is all that matters - his eyes say everything. I can't stand people that are only looking to find prominence in the sight of others. Who cares, it's all about having fun. Another reason why I've been playing 25 to Life on Xbox this past week.

[legacy-Ex_Angel]

Good posts from Shred and Snoogans.

: )

[legacy-Rorgy]

thank you ...

if all your godlike players out there are so good..why are u so scared to leave your clan mates and actually have a close game where the skill is even!...it would make this game 1000 times more fun..and today really pissed me off when the host made the level difference in teams..i didn't want to play the game anymore....after that i played halo for an hour then realized how gay it is...REGARDLESS

if u win against someone u know is not as good as u..its not the same as winning a close game of even skill...
winning with uneven teams is like playing vs novice bots....un satisfying

besides half the time when i make a survival game (the rare time i play on my host) some godlikeplayer comes in and owns and makes it not fun

and i think this game would be 10000 times funner if people were competative and didn't care so much about winning...then i dont think whoring certain adrenaline moves would be such an issue..because there would be more people to gang up on the guy..

i dont mean to compare this game to halo(i die inside when i do) but the group i play with on halo..tdc (www.tdchalo.com)...they are competative...they always make sure the teams are fair during team games with non clan members...they dont care about rank...and even though i am not as good as them..its nice to know that the teams are fair..and when u win..u actualy earned the win

i think the only good clan in this game is a clan that accepts good members..but actually plays with people who arn't as good

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

When you encounter a match like that...the key is not to complain, leave the match, remember your opponent's gamertags, find a couple peeps to help you give these players hell the next time you find em again.

[legacy-legend]

I have had to do that many of times and it works.[face_whistling]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Angel ,The Snoogs, and of course old Acid...you RULE!!!!

[legacy-legend]

Lol...Look acid has a very good point don't come on the forums and cry about it do something about it you must have some good frineds.

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

I have PLENTY of online friends


Lol...Look acid has a very good point don't come on the forums and cry about it do something about it you must have some good frineds.


Its community forums...I can post whatever I like [face_talk_hand]

[legacy-legend]

callisto truth has a server come in.

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

callisto truth has a server come in.


I am playing Rbsix 3, I don't feel like being gang-banged right now...lol

[legacy-legend]

i'll have broken sit out.

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

I'll be on Uc2 later today

[legacy-legend]

I will be waiting.[face_raised_brow]

[legacy-ThingamajiGeR]

and i wasn't talking about any HB players..u guys are nomally pretty fair i was talking about antman and curtiscal

those guys arnent that good, next time ur in there sever send me an invit ill help u out, send me a f/r ThingamajiGeR [face_cool]

[legacy-RyGaR]

THe fact of the matter is, most XBL gamers don't give two $hits about being "fair", or competitive.They just wanna win and belive they're "the best" at the game.

Thats why when I want to have a truly competitve game that matters to me, I go play on PC, and feel just fine with it, you may run into the team thing...but its cause most people dont realize there are unbalanced teams when theres like 16 players in a game.Someone will go: "TEAMS!!!" then of couse, someone WILL change to balance teams for the good of the game.

On XBL this is almost unheard of....

Here's the deal:

Wanna play at recess with school kids, go to XBL, wanna come play with adults , then come to PC...plain and simple.



Shred is completly right. I played Xbox Live from it's launch right up to the HUGE dissapointment of Halo 2. In that time I noticed the whole atmosphere and community attitude is much more childish on Xbox Live. You get these people in clans that just idle in a room with stacked teams and as soon as one guy goes in there they jump them. Yeah! lets go pwn some noobs!

PC community is for adults, consoles are for kids. No offense to anyone. Leave it at that.

[legacy-legend]

Ok then why are you posting on the kiddie froums?

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

THe fact of the matter is, most XBL gamers don't give two $hits about being "fair", or competitive.They just wanna win and belive they're "the best" at the game.

Thats why when I want to have a truly competitve game that matters to me, I go play on PC, and feel just fine with it, you may run into the team thing...but its cause most people dont realize there are unbalanced teams when theres like 16 players in a game.Someone will go: "TEAMS!!!" then of couse, someone WILL change to balance teams for the good of the game.

On XBL this is almost unheard of....

Here's the deal:

Wanna play at recess with school kids, go to XBL, wanna come play with adults , then come to PC...plain and simple.



Shred is completly right. I played Xbox Live from it's launch right up to the HUGE dissapointment of Halo 2. In that time I noticed the whole atmosphere and community attitude is much more childish on Xbox Live. You get these people in clans that just idle in a room with stacked teams and as soon as one guy goes in there they jump them. Yeah! lets go pwn some noobs!

PC community is for adults, consoles are for kids. No offense to anyone. Leave it at that.

Aren't you Rygar Oc....I've played with you in the first UC

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

and i wasn't talking about any HB players..u guys are nomally pretty fair i was talking about antman and curtiscal

those guys arnent that good, next time ur in there sever send me an invit ill help u out, send me a f/r ThingamajiGeR [face_cool]

Your'e in their clan [face_shhh]

[legacy-legend]

i think he ment atr guys.

[legacy-ThingamajiGeR]

lol [face_doh!]

ok seriosly i was talkin about ATR

lol [face_flag] USA

Death to America [face_beatup]

these faces are awsom [face_peace]

[legacy-blackm0n]

dJs handle this spammer!

[legacy-ThingamajiGeR]

no handle this spamer[face_talk_hand]

i always win...even when i lose i win, I CANNOT BE DEFEATED [face_skull]

[legacy-XoVeNmiTsX]

THe fact of the matter is, most XBL gamers don't give two $hits about being "fair", or competitive.They just wanna win and belive they're "the best" at the game.

Thats why when I want to have a truly competitve game that matters to me, I go play on PC, and feel just fine with it, you may run into the team thing...but its cause most people dont realize there are unbalanced teams when theres like 16 players in a game.Someone will go: "TEAMS!!!" then of couse, someone WILL change to balance teams for the good of the game.

On XBL this is almost unheard of....

Here's the deal:

Wanna play at recess with school kids, go to XBL, wanna come play with adults , then come to PC...plain and simple.



Shred is completly right. I played Xbox Live from it's launch right up to the HUGE dissapointment of Halo 2. In that time I noticed the whole atmosphere and community attitude is much more childish on Xbox Live. You get these people in clans that just idle in a room with stacked teams and as soon as one guy goes in there they jump them. Yeah! lets go pwn some noobs!

PC community is for adults, consoles are for kids. No offense to anyone. Leave it at that.

WTH! Rygar! Should play UC2 sometime [face_peace]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

(bows out gracefully)

[snoogans460]

(bows out gracefully)[face_applause]

[legacy-Rorgy]

k
the thread was inspired by ATR..but...all clans do it..and it is so annoying

[legacy-legend]

do me a favor then quit don't come in get frineds or join a clan.

[legacy-onenation]

Watch the language.

today i was playing team deathmatch...and there were 2 okay people..and 2 godlike people

so instead of making the teams even and fair and fun...the wost was a whore and said..godlike players vs u guys..because the godlike players were in teh same clan...
so my team (the sucky team) was being owned..and the other team was smack talking...OF COURSE YOUR GOING TO WIN *!


i think more people would playthis game if some of the people on here weren't total *... about half of the games i play people complain about how nobody plays unreal...but then in a team game the same people *****ing about how nobody plays it...makes the teams so uneven...and so unfun for the new players that i didn't even want to playt unreal anymore ...if that was my first day and that happened to me..i would never play this game..ever ...again

This sort of thing happens all the time, and it is bull. But adding to the topic, I hate it when someone has a super laggy server, no one can hardly move, this guy is killing the entire room, trash talking like someone actually has a chance, and think ing he is good.

Then, in another server, he gets murdered, and stand no chance. How about that?

[legacy-Junior]

There are two sides to this. One is get better so you can hold your own in clan servers and the other is clans should be willing to make even teams. Personally i hate absolute rape so i go for even teams but at the same time you should know what you are gettin into when you see everyone with B4M or HB or whatever clans still plays now by their names. Ask for even teams and if they don't leave the server if its that much of a missmatch. Eventually when no one joins their servers they wont stack teams. Or just tough it out and try to step your game up. Its all up to you.

[legacy-legend]

for 7 months of this game i whent up agentst stacked teamst rip r4w bpm so on....

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

im against stacked teams when i play tdm.

survival is where its all at.

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

I need an answer to this queston.....What is the main reason for a clan to be formed?

[legacy-XoVeNmiTsX]

orgies

[legacy-legend]

To play with eachother? Ty acid....i think you argee with me.,..

[legacy-blackm0n]

orgies


that made me chuckle

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

To play with eachother? Ty acid....i think you argee with me.,..

Maybe I do. You see....To anyone who had complaints about BPM "stacking teams", BPM had only 4 members. Just about the max that can fit on one team. We know very well how to play as a team, if we wanted to go against eachother, we would create private matches simply for practice. Going against eachother, while playing with some random players is pointless. Cause while we played as a team, we knew what to expect from eachother, and frankly we cancelled eachother out during those games.

If anyone on the opposing team was not comfortable playing with random people, we always asked if they want to start it, or if they have anyone else they're thinking about inviting to even up the "skill" level. That is exactly what RiP & DBZ have done when playing with us. And those were some amazing matches regardless of the outcome. So why don't you boys quit whining about splitting clan members to even team matches. If they are up for it, good for them. If they are not, sh*t happens and you might as well find yourselves a few good men and amp up your game.

[legacy-Xbox360]

To play with eachother? Ty acid....i think you argee with me.,..

Maybe I do. You see....To anyone who had complaints about BPM "stacking teams", BPM had only 4 members. Just about the max that can fit on one team. We know very well how to play as a team, if we wanted to go against eachother, we would create private matches simply for practice. Going against eachother, while playing with some random players is pointless. Cause while we played as a team, we knew what to expect from eachother, and frankly we cancelled eachother out during those games.

If anyone on the opposing team was not comfortable playing with random people, we always asked if they want to start it, or if they have anyone else they're thinking about inviting to even up the "skill" level. That is exactly what RiP & DBZ have done when playing with us. And those were some amazing matches regardless of the outcome. So why don't you boys quit whining about splitting clan members to even team matches. If they are up for it, good for them. If they are not, sh*t happens and you might as well find yourselves a few good men and amp up your game.


I think Nation's team won.

[legacy-legend]

Hmmm..i always used to have to play with a stcked team and i never cryed about it...i just got better form it...

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

I think Nation's team won.

Yea...he is the best out of us four.

[legacy-legend]

He was a very good player and bpm i would have to say had the best teamwork out of any clan man.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

bpm had some nice teamwork in ctf. me,augy and clue went in there against 3 of them and got slaughtered. it was a good match none the less.
it aint just nations team cause they all done equal work, defend the flag, attack the flag. nation just done a little more killing

[legacy-legend]

once i got a group of frineds agenst them and they wo 2 to 3 a very good game i would have to say best one i ever had.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I once dared to join BPM warfare when they were all in there and I was alone...Yeah stinger maddness.

[legacy-XoVeNmiTsX]

i dared to join a few times, i dont think i ever won,but i did have a few flag caps :)

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

Ghost and I went in there and EMP'd them...lol

[legacy-Xbox360]

I played with DiS_ Clue one time and some other random "newbies" to the game, in a TDM hosted by BPM. We lost, but not by alot.

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

Thanks Legend & Tug for the props. I'm sure you boys were formidable opponents.


Ghost and I went in there and EMP'd them...lol
[face_raised_brow] .....Yea....that's a given.


I played with DiS_ Clue one time and some other random "newbies" to the game, in a TDM hosted by BPM. We lost, but not by alot.
That's good & all but I'm sure you know by now why we played together as a team.

[legacy-legend]

Good frineds in real life?

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

Aside from that, we know eachother's moves (in TDMs) & hiding spots (in CTF). We would rather use them against out opponents.

[legacy-onenation]

I just watched that very thing happen to a friend of mine who was playing the game. I must soundly agree, that was a cake move. They did not want to split up, and insisted on staying on the same team, even when he was alone.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Aside from that, we know eachother's moves (in TDMs) & hiding spots (in CTF). We would rather use them against out opponents.

See I want to get you to play 2k4 so we reach that point together....Like me and Shred1 do.

I understand what you mean totally.

The difference is I like to play the guys who know my moves.....ALOT OF FUN....make for some ridiculous kills man.

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

See I want to get you to play 2k4 so we reach that point together....Like me and Shred1 do.

I'll never get to be a good player/teammate in a game like 2k4. I'm not great at it, and I rather skip it and work my way through the console games (360). That's where BPM will be at.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

nah not what I meant...just playing alot, knowing each others moves....and good games...no teammate s...