UHOH!!!!!!!!!!!!! UC3!!!!!!!!!!

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Letter from one of my mod member to Dr.Capps.

THIS IS FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!

RRead he says they still have plans for the franchise!!!

YAYA

You all lovee me for sharing this


- Official response from Epic -

Hi, Daniel. Glad to hear you folks are still at it. Thanks for the
kind words about the show; it was a great E3, and awards are still
rolling in.

Yes, we went lower rez than we would have liked on the Xbox. We did
author some of our characters at higher resolution, until we realized
that we wouldn't be able to get them into memory. We still have some
ideas in the works for that product / franchise, though, and I'm afraid
we can't make the skins available.
Best of luck-

mike

Michael Capps, Ph.D.
President, Epic Games, Inc.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I wanna map for UC3[face_drooling]

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

sounds good but i do dought it, im on gears of war, i heard thats only live aware....

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Tug I SWAER TO YOU this is a letter from Capps dude, and he said they still have ideas fro the franchise etc.

I thought there was no way they'd make a 3, this just states that they are considering it me thinks.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

Gears of war has a versus mode.....

and question for shred.
in UT2003 ive seen many people with custom colors in their name...
how do i do that? is it some sort of scripting?

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

IT's UTCOmp setting.

I dont really think I'll like GOW, but I intened to give it a shot.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

its in UT2003 which i dont think has a good UT comp modification. and ive seen the players in any server and it still stays the same

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

not sure then man, Comp probably runs a little differnt, try hitting F5.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

the peeps were usin UT2k4 message colourizer.

it works across all game modes and in any server

[legacy-xXfeenyXx]

If GoW is only online aware i'm gonna kill somebody.

[legacy-onenation]

I hope there is a UC3.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

in 2k3 there was a utcomp style mod called TTM. Forget what it stood for, but it was basically the same thing that UTcomp is to 2k4

[legacy-RyGaR]

Shred maybe you shouldn't be sharing this with everyone this was my email not yours. This was posted in private forums for our mod members eyes only, last thing I want is mike to think It was me who went and posted this stuff he told me in a private email.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Dude, you REALLY think there gonna get mad.

Like it changes our stance with them.

I'm sorry,but only cause it made you mad.

I don't think it'll hurt your rep, you did'nt post it.

I am sorry if it offended you.

Im sure they dont care, or else the would not have said anything.

IF Dr.Capps cares, well then I stand corrected.


I did not realize it was confidential and ****.

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

Don't stress it, it's actually old news to me. Like I said before....EPIC will eventually make a formal announcement on what they have in the works. Possibly after GOW's release.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Hey had to let you guys know man.

Gotta stay down ya know.

[legacy-sababa]

do you think this title is coming to the next gen console like xbox 360? or will they also make a watered down version like ubisoft did with farcry instincts evolution, and farcry instincts predator

i'm considering ditching my box and getting a 360, but there aren't good games out for it yet, and i'll miss playing unreal...unless uc3 goes 360??

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

COnsidering UC has always been for Xbox only......


Makes me happy for the Xboxers/

NO UT2007, but possibly a new UC game....

I like it, I love it...

Uh oh!!!

EPIC if you release a KB and M for that junk and maybe make hybrid of a stick and mouse somehow, ID totally forget about UT2007 probably.

[legacy-ThePigster]

KB/M on UC3 would be teh ghey.

[legacy-onenation]

KB/M on UC3 would be teh ghey.

That's a funny name. Are you are cop or cop hater?

[snoogans460]

Well, to be perfectly honest - hearing news that UC3 will possibly be released sometime in the near future isn't a real big shocker. Granted it's fantastic news, but I always figured that sooner or later Epic would announce something like this.

The logic is simple... as there's been COUNTLESS titles that have sold much worse than UC2 and ultimately garnered a sequel in the process. The 360 will eventually get all of Epic's games eventually - and this is a testament to that fact.

Even still, UC3 will probably be a long way off, but UC2 will keep me busy until then. Shred, I'm not exactly sure if Keyboard / Mouse should be given the green light. Seriously, if this became the console standard, it would easily deter many gamers away (myself included) from the balanced console experience.

Remember the Dreamcast? That system was so under-appreciated and the online portion was a blast - but the keyboard / mouse features really skewed the competition.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

Id rather that be an option for the player. Some may like the controller, some may like the KB&M. Let them choose how they want to play.

I personally would take a KB&M cause Im in more control (what Im used to from PC's).

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well they moght come up with something.

I wanna hybrid of the two

[legacy-Condiment_King]

http://gear.ign.com/articles/603/603262p1.html

not sure what happened to this little thing or the company though.


edit: well looks like they came back to E3 this year and are under a new name or something.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/708/708054p1.html

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I dont like the thumb use,IT still would not be as accurate.

I watched that video of the playing 99 with it.

If the gyroscpic stuff could be refined maybe that coudl work, or like Nintendos new thing.

[legacy-Dark_Raven]

That's just music to my ears, I hope they keep it like UC2; they most likely will but I hate it when developers take out some of the good parts of the game.

[legacy-ThePigster]

KB/M on UC3 would be teh ghey.

That's a funny name. Are you are cop or cop hater?

Neither. My GT was xW A R P I Gx. People always think it's something to do with cops.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

i believe u shred, but i just think the will value their time to unreal 2007

[legacy-Netsurfer733]

Please god let there be a UC3... (that doesn't overstress the system in 3rd person view anymore)

[snoogans460]

I wonder which character they'd bring back for UC2? Maybe this time they'll include Xan.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Please god let there be a UC3... (that doesn't overstress the system in 3rd person view anymore)

3rd will always eat more frames, think about it, drawing a character on screen is gonna pull some system recources.

[legacy-Eena]

OMG I JUST CRAPPED MY PANTS this is awesome news and where have you been warpig? I remember you. Eena

[snoogans460]

Holy Crap! Warpig is back. He used to be a regular on these forums.

[legacy-ra1n]

I don't even want to think about how unbalanced UC3 will be

[legacy-onenation]

KB/M on UC3 would be teh ghey.

That's a funny name. Are you are cop or cop hater?

Neither. My GT was xW A R P I Gx. People always think it's something to do with cops.

Ah, ok.

[legacy-Kid_Venom82]

I have been posting this for a while now. You can play uc3 with k/m.

[snoogans460]

I have been posting this for a while now. You can play uc3 with k/m.

HUH?[face_confused]

[legacy-Kid_Venom82]

Sine you said huh I will explain. I have a mod chip within my xbox that "unlocks" my xbox. XeniumICE SP is what I have in case you are wondering. And with it I can do everything a PC can. View pics, play burnt movies (without the dongle...that is without the rf reciever and remote), play burnt music, install emulators, file manager, ftp client, linux os, etc. It also comes with a nifty usb converter that gives the capabilities to plug in a keyboard and mouse. (You need two, one for each controller port.) It is used for xbmc (XBox Media Center... Similiar to windows media player or windows media center) that has an application for browsing the internet. Or you can download another browser. Anyways if you find the right plugins and app you can use the keyboard and mouse for playing games. Before I said that there is a way to have gamepad vs kb/m players to see who would be better. but that topic got old and the people that responded to the post after that never really responded to it. So I left it alone. But yes I can play with a kb/m with the mod, but you have to set it up in such a way that you don't have the mod chip loaded when trying to play games on line. The mod will void your warranty, and microsoft will ban you from xblive. Also there is xbconnect and xai link which will let you connect to other players using your pc as a internet tunnel just like xblive. I can explain more later.

[legacy-KriKKe]

UC3 will probably be a title for the xbox 360 only, which i like, i mean ... UC2 was already on the edge of the xbox capacity... and UC3 will probably run on the unreal engine 3, and I don't think the xbox can handle that, another thing is that gears of war is also an xbox 360-game only, so we can expect the same for UC3.
And it's better for epic to develop UC3 only for the xbox 360 I think, they can really concentrate on one version then...
HAHA, maybe UC3 will be the Halo3-killer this time, because UC3 will probably hit shelves after the release of Halo3...
Damn, that game's going to rock! what about, unreal engine 3 graphics, smooth online gaming, no bugs or whatever, big community, customisable weapons/characters, more gametypes, maybe a higher max player capacity ( 10 or 12 ... ) ... [face_drooling]

[legacy-Kid_Venom82]

OOOOOOOOOpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppps UC2 can be played with kb/m sorry.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Since most of the worlds population are simpletons, Halo will probably always tank UT in sales.

I mean look at what your really saying here:

Halo 2 grossed freakin $200 Million in 2 days.

Thats 4 Million in 2 days.

I worked at EB at the time, and they had a Million preoredered.
MY store had 250.

UC2 preorders??...ONE, and it was MY COPY...LOL

UC2 TOTAL copies sold: 143,000 approx.

BUT the demo went fast as hell.

LOL


Those dang trading cards may be worth some cheese one day.

Therefore officialy moving the gaming idustry revenues way over the movie industries.

I know that Epic IS trying to kill Halo, but I think it's really bad idea, and in the end will lose ther identitity if they take it too far.All this crap about making it more platable to the masses makes me freakin sick.

Why try to copy a game, that has copied you??

It's like when Metallica ripped off riffs that were ripped of from them by another band.

[legacy-ThePigster]

I don't think simpletons play Halo, Shred. After all, how the heck is UT more complicated than Halo? It just seems that these days, the majority of people prefer slower games. Halo, Tom Clancy, DOA, Forza...all these slower games dominate the market. I think they are lame, but I like faster games.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I don't think simpletons play Halo, Shred. After all, how the heck is UT more complicated than Halo? It just seems that these days, the majority of people prefer slower games. Halo, Tom Clancy, DOA, Forza...all these slower games dominate the market. I think they are lame, but I like faster games.

How is UT more complicated than Halo?

Someone help me out here.

[snoogans460]

Since most of the worlds population are simpletons, Halo will probably always tank UT in sales.

I mean look at what your really saying here:

Halo 2 grossed freakin $200 Million in 2 days.

Thats 4 Million in 2 days.

I worked at EB at the time, and they had a Million preoredered.
MY store had 250.

UC2 preorders??...ONE, and it was MY COPY...LOL

UC2 TOTAL copies sold: 143,000 approx.

BUT the demo went fast as hell.

LOL


Those dang trading cards may be worth some cheese one day.

Therefore officialy moving the gaming idustry revenues way over the movie industries.

I know that Epic IS trying to kill Halo, but I think it's really bad idea, and in the end will lose ther identitity if they take it too far.All this crap about making it more platable to the masses makes me freakin sick.

Why try to copy a game, that has copied you??

It's like when Metallica ripped off riffs that were ripped of from them by another band.

How is UT more complicated than Halo?

Someone help me out here.

LOL - Shred had the only pre-order, nice. I love those trading cards, yet, I'm still missing 3 in my collection and they haven't surfaced on Ebay yet.

UT is more of a finesse franchise with many more ins and outs compared to noobified Halo. Every last aspect of UT has more depth than Bungie's tour de force. It would take hours to list the details.

[legacy-NecrisFlood]

Sadly, I think that might have been the problem. I actually enjoyed the Halos, but anyone could see that UC2 had much more "stuff" going on there...as a result, it's generally a more difficult game than Halo 1 or 2. Average person comes online in UC2 and gets destroyed in so many ways it truly appears hopeless that he will ever become even "decent". Average Person is not going to want to keep playing something he will just always lose at. In the world of Halo, things are just easier...and it doesn't take much time to get the kills....especially with ridiculous crap like the sword and rocket launcher that exist within a game context where characters die so quickly.(heh, some "super soldier" The Cheif is, huh? MC dies so fast to anything it's almost depressing...the regenerative shield factor is nearly irrelevant because of how easy it is to kill someone there.) This game actually takes some measure of "work", usually, to get the kills. It definitely takes more thought and a generally deeper level of fast strategic decisions....which is one of the main reasons I love it so much. I like the feeling that I have so many options available to me, and I have to make wise decisions in a blazingly fast environment.("do I use Ethereal here? Or Wraith? Speed? Switch out to Bio...Cloud or fully charged blob? follow up with explosive weapon shots? Fly away with Nimble? Dash in and VampCloud?nah, I should save adrenaline...Full Adren should be re-appearing soon, I should speed over there, uh oh, should've picked Brock...dude has UDamage, etc." It just doesn't get that deep in Halo...and I only barely scratched the surface of the usual thought process of an average UC2 player there when he's in the heat of battle.),

People tend to shy away from games where they immediately feel intimidated and victory seems hopeless. They want something that's easy...something they can win after only a couple of days or even just a few hours of playing.

---anyway, yeah...I enjoyed Halo 1 and 2 against other people....and then we were blessed with Unreal Championship 2. I don't think I could ever go back. It's like having a beat up old '70s Chevy(Halo, if you will)...it's ok for the time and everything...it works...but then suddenly you've experienced a real "Bond Car" Aston Martin(the UC2, if you will.), complete with all the cool 007 gadgets/weapons. You just can't go back to the old Chevy after that.

[legacy-ThePigster]

Yeah, you're right necris, UC2 is way more complicated than Halo. For some reason, I had UT in my mind, and not UC2 when I posted that.

But I do have to say that there's nothing wrong with a simple game, as long as it's good and you enjoy it.

[snoogans460]

Sadly, I think that might have been the problem. I actually enjoyed the Halos, but anyone could see that UC2 had much more "stuff" going on there...as a result, it's generally a more difficult game than Halo 1 or 2. Average person comes online in UC2 and gets destroyed in so many ways it truly appears hopeless that he will ever become even "decent". Average Person is not going to want to keep playing something he will just always lose at. In the world of Halo, things are just easier...and it doesn't take much time to get the kills....especially with ridiculous crap like the sword and rocket launcher that exist within a game context where characters die so quickly.(heh, some "super soldier" The Cheif is, huh? MC dies so fast to anything it's almost depressing...the regenerative shield factor is nearly irrelevant because of how easy it is to kill someone there.) This game actually takes some measure of "work", usually, to get the kills. It definitely takes more thought and a generally deeper level of fast strategic decisions....which is one of the main reasons I love it so much. I like the feeling that I have so many options available to me, and I have to make wise decisions in a blazingly fast environment.("do I use Ethereal here? Or Wraith? Speed? Switch out to Bio...Cloud or fully charged blob? follow up with explosive weapon shots? Fly away with Nimble? Dash in and VampCloud?nah, I should save adrenaline...Full Adren should be re-appearing soon, I should speed over there, uh oh, should've picked Brock...dude has UDamage, etc." It just doesn't get that deep in Halo...and I only barely scratched the surface of the usual thought process of an average UC2 player there when he's in the heat of battle.),

People tend to shy away from games where they immediately feel intimidated and victory seems hopeless. They want something that's easy...something they can win after only a couple of days or even just a few hours of playing.

---anyway, yeah...I enjoyed Halo 1 and 2 against other people....and then we were blessed with Unreal Championship 2. I don't think I could ever go back. It's like having a beat up old '70s Chevy(Halo, if you will)...it's ok for the time and everything...it works...but then suddenly you've experienced a real "Bond Car" Aston Martin(the UC2, if you will.), complete with all the cool 007 gadgets/weapons. You just can't go back to the old Chevy after that.

Excellent Post! I really like your final analogy with the cars - so true my Necris friend, so true.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Thanx[face_dancing]

[legacy-ThePigster]

I hated UC2 when I first played it. But I saw there was so many possiblities, so I stuck with it. Now I thinks it's the best shooter ever. I showed it to 2 friends so far, and they both hated it. One still hates it(after only 5 mintues of playing), and the other tolerates it only for the competition, but doesn't enjoy it(after 4 months of LAN games with me). It's sad really.

[legacy-Miko]

Shred have you ever taken the thought that Mike ment they werent done with uc2 and might expand upon uc2 and not make a uc3. the chances of a UC3 at this momment are next to impossible right now.

[snoogans460]

I'm always down for a revised edition for next-gen. UC2.5 or something. Hey, it would be better than nothing.

[legacy-Tug_Soldi3r]

UC2 has a big learning curve.
Halo had skill involved.
Halo 2 was so unskillful it was skillful if u kno what i mean.

i would like it if they expanded on the gameplay and made it a 360 title that wud be good. like 16 playable in tdm and ctf. made a possible built in UC1 with it, that way microsoft dont have to ***** about the B/C xbox 360

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I wish they'd do that too, I'd buy it, but with the low sales, doubtful, but maybe Epic should consider the idea and maybe rake in same easy profit.

[legacy-ra1n]

acutally halo takes a lot of stealth and thats about it. Once you get past the modder levels its faster than uc2 matches... :P you move slower but everyone actually can hit people with out getting a headshot rejected back at them :P So its not a bunch of gay bank shots or "leet" shots that got pulled out of the ass. I think its elite that i can steal a sniper rifle with just a single grenade and a pistol shot to the head :P

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Yeah cause you can't do anything most of the time when getting attacked, dont tend to compare Halo to UC2 anyhow, WAY TOO different.I compare more to 2k series, and 99.

Faster games than Halo 4 sure.

[legacy-_BIO_]

Halo dosent really take any skill.[face_not_talking]

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

Halo dosent really take any skill.[face_not_talking]

true dat

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

Yeah it does..you have to aim and pull the right trigger[face_mischief]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Le tme adjust those statemesnt a bit for you guys.


Halo 1 takes a little skill to play.I t has little auto aim.

Halo 2 however is totally easy as crap.

Im no Halo player, but I did play 2, and beat it on Legendar the night it came out.

I thought, man this Legendary stuff iss a complete joke.Tired it on Halo 1...NADA

[legacy-ra1n]

I havn't seen a UC2 player above rank 20 when i play halo... the game doesnt even get good until ur in ur early thirties.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I think you took that as I like Halo...LOL

THATS THE SHIITEST GAME EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got cought up in the H2 hype and bought it cause I worked the midnight realease.Everone coming in wanting this game made me wanna buy it.IT was back in the stor the next day, and was sold as brand-new to some fool....LOL

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

I havn't seen a UC2 player above rank 20 when i play halo... the game doesnt even get good until ur in ur early thirties.

im 25[face_tongue]