my Devastation for 2k4 revised

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I revised her some and made her look more consistent with the original I fell.It's still a repaint of a 2k4 model.I just justifiy that in her description that she's a production model, not a prototype such as the "original" Devastation.

She'll more than likeley be packaged with the UC2 mod for UT2004.

anyways here's a little movie:
http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2H8R9P3I0C95R23DHC502CC7LH

You might also notice another work in progress from UC2 in the video if your on the look out.

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

Don't get me wrong, it looks good, but is there a way to give her a helmet instead of that spikey hairdo?

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I can take them away but that might look bad.

IT's just a repaint Sim/////I cant change the shape.

[snoogans460]

Nice, it definitely resonates Devestation to me. How many characters do you have done so far?

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Actual UC2 copies:

Raptor Brock and Malocm so far.

[legacy-Eena]

Raptor, Yay I love raptor, that robot has some sexy legs.

[snoogans460]

Raptor, Yay I love raptor, that robot has some sexy legs.

Damn straight, I'd get some of that.[face_drooling]

[legacy-Eena]

^^^ hells yeah, robot lovin is how to do it.^^^

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well I love the Cybernetics and Automatons alot, so count on as many as I can handle repainting.Our Raptor looks pretty nasty.He still needs animation on his dreads, and his textures is a little cartooish looking but other than that he looks great.We just gotta make the orange look like rusted metal and not magic markers.It'll be fixed soon enough.

[snoogans460]

It must be difficult trying to get these characters looking exactly like their UC2 counterparts. I give you guys credit for making them as good as you do.

Anyhow, who is my Icon? It looks like an armadillo with a ponytail.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I think its Torgr concept art

[legacy-VickissV3]

she looks OK but Praxis is looking amazing !

[legacy-Eena]

I wish that they had put up most of their concept art for UC2 up for people to view cause I really like the artsyle, and it's always cool to see early character Ideas.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Hey Vickiss GG's in UC2 the other day....remeber....Good one!

[legacy-Eena]

didnt you once say that you were gonna reveal your gamertag once UC2 became one year old, well about that?

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Once my account runs out.When I get that little thingy telling me renew in the mail, I'll tell.

Though I'm fairly sure it'll mean little to , we have never player.I've seen you in a game in the list a few times but never played you I don;t think.

[legacy-Eena]

just takin this wild gues and saying Apollo?

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

just takin this wild gues and saying Apollo?
Hmmm, apollo. Put root in front of it. My god, I think I found shred GT [face_thinking]

[legacy-Condiment_King]

ok I look at these forums occasionally, but rarely post... but anyways, back up the train here...

Theres a UC2 mod for UT2004 in the works? I want links!!! Ive been wanting a PC port of this game for ages now but have pretty much accepted the fact that its not gonna happen.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Just watch these forums...Ill post when we relese.It is in the works.

I made a Syzygy thats a cross of sorts between the UC2 "rusty Liandri" version. and the UC1/UT2003-4 "Automaton YellowJacket" stlye.

[image=http://www.eraserinc.com/ihs/images/gHP40411.jpg]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well I love the Cybernetics and Automatons alot, so count on as many as I can handle repainting.Our Raptor looks pretty nasty.He still needs animation on his dreads, and his textures is a little cartooish looking but other than that he looks great.We just gotta make the orange look like rusted metal and not magic markers.It'll be fixed soon enough.
let me clarify by nasty I meant that in a good way.

Oh and In case Acid see's this I think he'll like this one:

Disconnect from 99 repaint of Drekorig.

[image=http://www.eraserinc.com/ihs/images/9lA40871.jpg]

UC2004 MOD LINKX
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=159452&page=5
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519904

[snoogans460]

Cool Pics as always.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

awesome to hear what you guys are doing, really looking forward to it.

So let me get this straight, you used cloneXB to get the files onto your PC from the DVD, then what did you use to crack the texture files and all that since they were in a different format?

This all came to me really last night, I wanted to port over the maps from UC2 to regular UT2004 and just put good weapon placements and alter the maps a bit for 2k4 play... There are like 4 or 5 maps that would be great for Pub / competitive 4v4 TDM play in there. Deadbolt being one of them. I just didnt know how to access the files...

Also, are you making regular 2k4 versions of the maps as well? or do you think I could snag those already created maps from UC2 and just add in a couple things. any chance I could see some preliminary versions of the maps in 2k4 without needing the UC2 mod youve worked on?

Im in the competitive 2k4 scene and just want some new maps. Ive been at the top tier of the game since UT99 and am fairly well known.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

haha actually found your deadbolt map on google... Ill check that out when I get off work. There was one or two other maps I was in love with too that Ill check on. Which other ones have you already worked on/finished? Just curious

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Follow the 2nd link in the post with the pic of the Skarrj guy for a pic or two pf the levels.

DM-Horizon
Dm-Praxis
Dm-Deadbolt
DM-Meridian(in worx)-will be larger than original
DM-Morbias3(in worx)-will be smaller than orignal UC2 version, more lik 99 but with the extra UC2 areas and flare.


I made all those.

Um CTF- so far only Judgement.I am gonna try to do one, but I am a DM player almost exclusivly.This goes for 2k4 as well as UC2.SO I tend to want to make DM maps so I can play them,and I think Im better at them cause thats what I know best.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

so.... seeing what has been done i think this mod will be finished errrrrr....

maybe in around 2 years[face_sleep]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

LOL

Were not making the entire game fool.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

LOL

Were not making the entire game fool.

well its not realy gonna give that uc2 experience then.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

Zerk, its the style of play and in a multiplayer form is what theyre going for. If I want to play the single player, Ill just play that on my xbox.

kudos to them for doing what theyve done. If you want any help on collaberating any regular 2k4 things, Ill be more then welcome to help out.

So maybe I wasnt clear before ShredPrince, but are any of the other maps available for download yet for just UT2k4 as it is? or just deadbolt?

I see Horizon and Praxis in the SS's, but no meshes yet? or are they done? I honestly dont think you should do another Morbias... its been done so many times now. Unreal 1, UT99, Ut2k3/4... Id rather you put out another map instead.

Also are you just making these maps from scratch with the texture packages or loading up the map somehow with unrealed2x? Just curious how youre doing it all... Id love to get into/better at mapping and this might just be the motivation I have to do it...

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well we are having to make the meshes from scratch.The textures we extracted using special Xboxes(ahem).Now that only gives the bas .dds files really.Any immulsive or animatied shaders have to be constructed.Basicaly no materials at all.WE have alot of the .U files decoded and things of that nature.

The main thing we dont not have is meshes.THose are on the stove right now.Sonn very soon we'll have the Praxis theme done, then on to other Themes.Thats our idea of how to tackle as many maps as possible.

To answer the question, we are using regualr old UT2004 ediotr.Most of the stuff is from scratch, but we have some of UC2's native stuff at our disposal.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

thats awesome. Like I said before, if I can help in any way, lemme know.

ok so I just loaded up Deadbolt of yours (looks like someone else posted it on gamespot besides you and is trying to take credit for it) wasnt sure if it was a different remake, but its EXACTLY the same - unless you posted it under a name Corey as well...)

Heres a few comments I have with Deadbolt (its beautiful thats for sure)

Adrenaline:
Too much adrenaline. You have that 100 super adrenaline which is bad ass, but you gotta remember, for every kill you get, you have an extra 5 adrenaline, not to mention double kills, killing sprees, etc giving more). I would take a fair amount of it out.

Health:
The 5 health vials should just stand up straight so you can see them easier. Just makes the map look cleaner. I didnt really pay attention to how much health there was layed out in the map, or maybe I didnt notice much at all, so maybe more needs to be added, or just find new places for them.

Weapons:
Too many weapons in there as well. The grenade launcher is pretty sweet, but the spider mines arent needed. Youve just got an over abundance of guns on the map. Also maybe go through your weapon placement a bit as well. Is that death orb considered a super weapon? So it could be removed with the nosuperweapons mutator?

Powerups:
While I love UT99, its probably best to stick with the armor formula they have as it is. Just go with 50 and 100. Find new spots for them as well. I love the jump boots in there, decent spot for them, but maybe there is a better place for them? The keg o health and the amp are perfect. The invis could stay or go, Im pretty impartial to that,

However having that invis right there grabbing that amp could be a little too powerful, plus the 100 armor right there. Talk about a killing machine...

Would you mind if I took a few stabs on my own to play with the map and maybe make it work a little better in a competitive sense?

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Um yeah I mind.

I fyou want to help out, pick a map from UC2 and recreate it from UC2.IFits good enough Ill pass you the testures and admint you as a mod memeber.The Deadbolt map is alot figgerent now.I also am quite aware of all the wild pick up schemes and things that can occur.Its been online for at least 6 months and theres never any problem really.

Think about it...you get 5 adren each kill right....and the Invis just maxes you to 100 and does the adren combo for you essential;y, and the super adren rearely really eqalus 100.Alot of times it's just like 2...LOL

Trust it plays fine with only very few players.


Though I have changed things in it, but the weapon placement is the same.I did'n t want the mine layer, but felt meh why not, someone will enjoy it, so...and its not overpowered on that map.

Find a map and make it and let me see some of your work.


YEah I submitted Deadbolt to gamespot I belive.

I dar some fool to try to steal Deadbolt, everyone knows I made the 2k4 version.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Oh yeah I did remove all UT99 pickup from it too.

Even the jump Boots....they suked IMO on that map.

Ill post screenies in a minute or two.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

hurry up and get this done[face_clown] i cant wait now

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Jammin, why did you try to join, then not, then talk junk, now cool???

Why man???

NOT cool, but I forgive you.


GL HF

PEace Love Recylce.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

after i tried to join i got pissed off with ut2004 and i kinda got tied up with courswork.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

lol...now the other part?

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

[face_silly] u called me a dik and i do not like being called a dik

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Alright penis[face_laugh] [face_peace]

[snoogans460]

Alright penis[face_laugh] [face_peace]

You said Penis *chuckle*.

[legacy-Condiment_King]

hey shred, Ill have some SS's to show you in the next day or two. :D

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

hey shred, Ill have some SS's to show you in the next day or two. :D



[face_thinking]

[legacy-Condiment_King]

ok, so told ya I was gonna work on some stuff and see what you thought. Anyways, heres a few shots of DM-Undertow Im working on. Only worked on it for about a week now and this room is pretty much done, architecture wise. Still need to get the correct textures (which I dont have all of them yet) and static meshes (again dont have yet), do some more lighting and other odds and which I can deal with later. I think those pillars are actually static meshes as well since I see them throughout the level, but for now I just made them by hand for the experience of doing it and learning UED. Im still brand new to UED but I think Ive done pretty well with it for only using it for a little over a week or two and being brand new to mapping.

[image=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/condimentking/undertow1.jpg]

[image=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/condimentking/undertow2.jpg]

[image=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/condimentking/undertow3.jpg]

[image=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/condimentking/undertow4.jpg]

Ill post more as I progress, but lemme know what you think...

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

wow that is freakin sweet

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Very Nice woek indeeed.

Where did you get the Textures you have currently?


Hey man,check your PM's

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

nm

[legacy-Condiment_King]

thanks for the comments, Im gonna start on the damage amp room tonight after some 2k4 matches. Hopefully make some good headway on that in the next day or two.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Check PM's

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

where can i download deadbolt again???...

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Here is the old arse version.


My new super tight version is still not availible yet.

http://unrealtournament2004.filefront.com/file/DMDeadbolt;52924


I may drop that one soon though cause Deadbolt has beenn around awhile.

[snoogans460]

Great work on that Undertow Map Condiment King! You and Shred should get together and work on some creations together - or at least provide tips when needed. Keep up the fantastic work fellas! I can;t wait for this UC2 conversion - it'll give me one more reason to pick-up an Alienware [face_drooling] Actually, it'll probably be a while before that happens - but a man can dream.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I was about to slap you for having an Alienware, out of jealousy, but then I realized it was a dream...LOL.



I asked Condimet to do some CTF mappage for us, and to hold off on Undertow cause we actually have a start on it, but can use his part he built.

So we should hear an update from him soon on a CTF map from UC2.

[snoogans460]

Awesome! I swear that one of these days - when other projects are taken care of and I actually find some time to really dedicate - I'm all about learning the Unreal Editor. It's just that I know it's going to be a while before this actually comes into fruition.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Might as well wait for UEd 4.0 (UE 3).

ALot of learning to just relearn workflow for a new engine in half a year or so.

[snoogans460]

True, but even the ecperience taken now could surely help. Even still, it'll probably be months before I actaully find time - so waiting is probably the same bet.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

It's really supposed to be a good bit different.Supposedly the engine has Maya type funtionality, which means it's gonna be a real beast.

If it is what it sounds like, most of the maps will be made more from a 3D model rather thatn BSP brushes, and CSG operations.

There will probably be like on big box with a bazillion meshes in it.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

lol u said bazillion

[legacy-Condiment_King]

bumpity...

[image=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/condimentking/tombBlueflagroom.jpg]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Lookin Sharp there

Hey COndie, I can do the Sky stuff for ya, just get indoors perfect etc etc.

I got a mesh or two in Za workies

I posted a pic in here somewhere

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Yo Condiment, we are still gonna get Meshes from UC2oo4, but I am trying to make some of my own too for practice and if we need more than they can provide.

Since we are not a total conversion we have alot more freedom and can get more done.

I talked with Mons, and he said he'll make us meshes for allowance to inculude SLIGHTLY modified versions of our maps for there TC, but only if we get what we need.

So heres my first mesh ever, Stilla WIP, I am almost happy with the verticies, then all I gotta do is map UV's to it and it's in game for us to use.

[image=http://www.eraserinc.com/ihs/images/RFt99879.jpg]

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

nice.... what was that map called again

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

That Emperor Zerk.


Ill look at Turmoil and see if maybe I can make you a mesh or two....no promises yet, Im getting my feet wet with Maya.

[snoogans460]

I like the word "Mesh." It has a clever ring to it.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Lol

Well Anubis is a mesh.
Skeletal Mesh

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

yeah i remember the name now....

i cant realy do much else with my maps at the mo cus i need to work on the visuals and dont have the right static meshes....

i also make light look real sickly[face_silly]

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Jam, didi you get 2k4 in action yet???

On Meshes, Im workin on it, gettting better every hour I do it.

I made massive progress on my skills and understanding in Maya last Night.

I am gonna try to Finalize the first one I posted the Screenie of, really it just need texture mapping.

Ill post the finla screen.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

ill have it by the 6th of june....

but my maps at the mo are easily transferable because they dont use any UT2003 only features.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Good job Zerk, way to do it cuz.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

ok... gimme a map to do.

ill tweak turmoil once i get the meshes and i just summet to pass the time so which map/?\

[legacy-Condiment_King]

you finish turmoil already? right on.

shoot me a PM with some more Screenies.... bigger this time!

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

You gouys should make little demo movies of yuor maps.

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

apex is coming along nicely

ill post sum screenies once i put sum lights in there 2 morrow

[snoogans460]

You guys are like freakin' machines when it comes to crackin' out projects. Damn, if only my attention span and obsessive compulsive perfectionist mentality wasn't such an issue, my overall productivity with these creative talents of mine would maximize. Keep up the great work.[face_peace]

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

You gouys should make little demo movies of yuor maps.

instead how bout we send it to u and u can have a test????

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

You guys are like freakin' machines when it comes to crackin' out projects. Damn, if only my attention span and obsessive compulsive perfectionist mentality wasn't such an issue, my overall productivity with these creative talents of mine would maximize. Keep up the great work.[face_peace]

Actually thats what makes great maps

[legacy-x_ZerK_x]

You guys are like freakin' machines when it comes to crackin' out projects. Damn, if only my attention span and obsessive compulsive perfectionist mentality wasn't such an issue, my overall productivity with these creative talents of mine would maximize. Keep up the great work.[face_peace]

Actually thats what makes great maps


lol...


apex's shape is done now i just need to tweak it, texture it and add pickups

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Cant wait to see it