Cheap??

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Ok I always hear all talk about EMP being cheap.I can semi-understand this stance, but never really saw it.Though I never use it either.I have recently started to use it somewhat in defensive manners.I will also perform the cmbo on heavy characters.A well timed EMP is pretty tight to me.Like if someone is gonna try to trip rox you and you turn it on just before the shoot thus splattering them to bits.I see this a fairly skilled.

The main reason for this thread is not EMP though, but a comparison of sorts.

I think the Bio is cheap as crap.I never hear anyone complain about it.This is the only thing in the entire game I really see as quote
"cheap".In most cases an easy kill unless they are very aware.

So anybody else agree with any of this...more on my thoughts later.

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

Nothing in this game is cheap imo, that goes for homing also. You could use repulse to protect yourself from explosives. If they were to use homing goop, or shock balls, then that's a different story. In anycase, emp combo is not cheap, it counters those damn reject whores, and those damn host rejecters. I abuse it to an extent just to prevent from being rejected, or to kill the u-damage player.

[snoogans460]

Nothing in this game is cheap imo,

I agree, the developers implemeneted whatever they felt worked best with this game and there's a reason for that. Gamers within our community on the other hand, are the ones who deem anything that gets them killed cheap. I believe there's tactics and proper counters for every situation. My only real complaint is EMP killing Devastation with ease. There really needs to be a smaller radius for this ability.

[legacy-Alckatrahz]

I think if a character has no way to defend himself from the attack, then it is cheap. That's why I don't complain about rejecting, since it is a valid defense. But with EMP Combo, and even Shock Combo, there is no way to defend yourself. Even if Repulse were to work against EMP Combo, that's not something that a character has or has an equivelant to.

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

One thing you have to remember with the emp combo, and that's the distance for it to be executed.

[legacy-iReProphecy]

I dont understand how anyone can call the Goop cheap. Some people do get lucky kills with it. But i'd say it is the hardest gun to keep a constant kill with, besides the stinger.

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

Goop can't be cheap, I mean you have to be up close in combat to kill someone. Goop requires a lot of timing and prediction. Anyway, emp hurting a bot has to be annoying, because of its wide radius.

[legacy-iReProphecy]

Actually the Biorifle can be used for long to medium distances.

[legacy-Acid_2_140bpm]

Ok I always hear all talk about EMP being cheap.

EMP...defensive is quite acceptable in my opinion. But to use the EMP simply because with your explosives give you a high splash damage radius....not exactly considered skillfull at all. Ofcourse you know my take on this topic. You've been hearing it from me for a long time. I do not respect that move, nor do I respect the player who uses it. Hence why I give the first gen players props. They never used it, or ever knew anything about it. And I have never stooped that low when I played UC2.

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

Actually the Biorifle can be used for long to medium distances. Even so, it could only kill you in one blow if you get hit right after its fired. There's also a possiblity of dying in one hit, but in those cases your likely to be low on health for it to happen.

For those who still consider emp cheap. Go about hosting a game with no adren, and your problem is solve. [face_raised_brow]

[legacy-C3RV3ZA]

EMP combo was never a problem for me to get around. I rarely died to the combo... emp on it own however... It seemed that no matter who it was, they all seemed to have perfect timing with that poop before I shot... never failed. The combo was easy to get around though. thats just my opinion though

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

What about Goop.

It homes in very well, and with lox enabled it really bad.You basically have to really suck to miss with the bio IMO.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Ok I always hear all talk about EMP being cheap.

EMP...defensive is quite acceptable in my opinion. But to use the EMP simply because with your explosives give you a high splash damage radius....not exactly considered skillfull at all. Ofcourse you know my take on this topic. You've been hearing it from me for a long time. I do not respect that move, nor do I respect the player who uses it. Hence why I give the first gen players props. They never used it, or ever knew anything about it. And I have never stooped that low when I played UC2.

True...we never thought or needed to go that low.

Though one of those guys...the player people mainly complianed about was a 1st gen.

[legacy-C3RV3ZA]

bio cheap?? you have to be an idiot to go up close against someone using bio. in that case it's easy to use. easy roughly translates into nooby on these forums. now if you used like I did/ long to medium except against juggies then its a difficult to use. I mainly used it to hurt people or lob it behind them so I could laugh when they tried to turn and run and found a goop hopping towards them. No bio is not cheap. It just has its prime uses and when someone uses the bio for what its best for then I guess you can get upset and call them noobs but what it really comes down to is. How good are you with the bio and how stupid is the person your trying to goop. Plus I was a CTF player. worked really well for defense or sidebustin someone with my flag thats being rushed by someone else.

[legacy-nightmare]

sorry but the bio rifle is not cheap!

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Well I guess Ill feel free to abuse it as everyone else does.

I always shyed away from it cause I find it easy.Especially when using a Skarrj.

[legacy-nightmare]

with the Skaarj i always used the ripjack and the flack cannon

[legacy-Alckatrahz]

Ok I always hear all talk about EMP being cheap.

EMP...defensive is quite acceptable in my opinion. But to use the EMP simply because with your explosives give you a high splash damage radius....not exactly considered skillfull at all. Ofcourse you know my take on this topic. You've been hearing it from me for a long time. I do not respect that move, nor do I respect the player who uses it. Hence why I give the first gen players props. They never used it, or ever knew anything about it. And I have never stooped that low when I played UC2.


Skillfull, maybe not .. but is it a valid manuevre? Yes.. Just like Single-Rocket firing, which I think is really annoying, but I still tolerate it because I can easily defend myself from them

[legacy-iReProphecy]

Bio, is the perfect up-close weapon, and it basicly destoys anyone who goes straight melee.

[snoogans460]

The Bio is probably my favorite energy weapon of them all - to which I also think is the toughest to master. Granted the hit-box is pretty ridiculous at times, but like someone else mentioned - it's the toughest weapon to get consistent kills with.

Personally, I use the Bio-Mist alternative fire like it's going out if style to first disorient my opponents before taking them down. It's a great tactic. One down side to the Bio is that you're basically a sitting-duck when running around with a charged-up glob of goo.

[legacy-Callisto_Xii]

Man....what I give to just do one EMP combo

[legacy-Dark_Sim]

Man....what I give to just do one EMP comboNothing like emping someone who picked up the u-damage in azure. What a way to laugh at them once they come up those set of stairs.

[legacy-ra1n]

I just think the flak cannon is weak. needs at least 10 to 15 points added to it for me to fully like it as much as the other guns. Up close its pretty sick but most of the time u get people who sheild and lag reflect it by accident. The only thing i can think of that is cheap is Warrior spirit and rox when ur on someone elses server. Nakthi are straight up host priv to me.

[snoogans460]

I just think the flak cannon is weak. needs at least 10 to 15 points added to it for me to fully like it as much as the other guns. Up close its pretty sick but most of the time u get people who sheild and lag reflect it by accident. The only thing i can think of that is cheap is Warrior spirit and rox when ur on someone elses server. Nakthi are straight up host priv to me.



That's right, I forgot about the whole Warrior Spirit Rocket Glitch. Never once used it myself, even if it was available in my repertoire.

[legacy-ra1n]

Yeah 2 rocket bursts, both with emp. Gay ****

[snoogans460]

Yeah 2 rocket bursts, both with emp. Gay ****


You got that right. Gamers will use any means necessary to exploit and ruin the experience for everyone else.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

I have wondered though; how much of a true exploit is it?
I mean ur supposed to have faster firing rate with most weps but dont.

Yeah its a glitch but maybe not as bad as some.

Still totally unfair though.

[snoogans460]

It's funny how this glitch is apparently absent offline, but only comes into effect online. Plus, I've always wondered how gamers find these glitches anyhow. Some people will find anything.

[legacy-ra1n]

man i'd cope if all the explosives did it. the rip jack would be tight to shoot double. same w/ the Flak. its the fact that only Rockets are able to do that. But, yeah ur right. its an exploit.

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

It's funny how this glitch is apparently absent offline, but only comes into effect online. Plus, I've always wondered how gamers find these glitches anyhow. Some people will find anything.

I belive I was one of the first to find it....I abused it bad for a few days.It was so funny I must admit.Nobody new what was up.I know I reported the glitch to EPic W_A_Y before the patch so they had ample time to fix it.I had discovered it within a week or two after release.Only cause I love warrior spirit and Shock, and I ran out of ammo for shock and stumbled upon it.

Oh and in system link game si belive it works if remeber correctly.

Which brings me to t thought.

I gottta pass on my Warroir spirt "trick" not glitch to someone.Never seen it done byu anyone but myself...it might have happened I just have'nt seen it.Basically multiple detonating traveling cores.

[legacy-C3RV3ZA]

Akris was doing it to me just a few days after the game came out. Same with emp. He was like "hey myst watch this" and BAM emp combo. I've been telling that dood to get a job beta testing games but he doesnt listen =/

[legacy-ShredPrince2]

Cause it's not a job, it's done for free.THe days of paid beta testers is over.