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legacy-DeathDealer
10-24-2005, 09:47 PM
Just wondering?

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
10-24-2005, 10:32 PM
IDK about best but there are some good Bio users. Myself included along with ||_RIVET_||,SonicEclipse and Shakam.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 01:48 AM
I don't see, or haven't played with the esteemed players when they are using the bio. Callisto has good potential and has prob. made better shots than those that are on his video as I suspect, and is indicated by the gnome shot. Enzo is good with it so is black mon. I bet most the good players can use it but don't. The bad thing about the bio is freakin' pistols can break it up. I'm gettin real good with the bio I can make dist. shots and moving shots and am getting better all the time with it. I went from having like 30 something kills to having like twelve hundred kills in a short time span a lil' more than a week it is now my primary weapon that and rockets although I am slowly starting to use all weapons again shock and flak too.

legacy-5parda
10-25-2005, 02:09 AM
impossible to say with the bio. i dont feel the bio takes as much skill as the shock, although you are missing some1 out. augy, he makes the montages with good bio shots, although this proves nothing realy about his skils with the bio, when i watched the augy V clue full game match it is obvious he is a good bio player, plus he doesnt use it noobish, runnin around the map, poison clouding everytime he misses.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 02:41 AM
I think distance shots, consistency, fast paced action shots make good killer withthe bio. I only poison cloud with eu damage as charging up would be pointless and I only use poison with u cause its cool you can kill with cloud and can't normally do that. Where are augy's vids sparda can you post a link.

legacy-5parda
10-25-2005, 02:46 AM
www.pwnation.com go on vids

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 02:49 AM
yeah all i found was an unreal 2 vid by jigga jigga nintendo and the link was busted the only other ones were from olders series like 2k 4 and stuff.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 03:23 AM
I was thinkin of a different site w/ jigga jigga but i can download callisto's-what does that name mean ne way origin?- cause it is in WMP format but i can't download either f augy's it says real needs new something to play this presentation the automatic wizrd or whatever goes to work and nothing turns up. Says real could not find or no files or whatever exist for this somethin somethin

legacy-5parda
10-25-2005, 03:26 AM
download the new divx player

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 04:25 AM
I think i already did.

legacy-Ninja720
10-25-2005, 07:59 PM
Use WMP, imo, Realplayer sux.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-25-2005, 11:15 PM
I just realized i can prob get it by saving target as..stead of clickin on link.

legacy-augy
10-26-2005, 08:43 AM
plus he doesnt use it noobish, runnin around the map, poison clouding everytime he misses.

I honestly feel that this is the most important thing to recognize about the bio. Poison cloud is like the EMP combo: you bust it out to administer justice to the unjust. If somebody just sits there hoping to reject my bio shot, yeah, I'll poison cloud 'em. But otherwise, I'll never poison cloud. It takes no skill whatsoever, just ammo. And I don't play this game to win, it's to have fun and prove (and improve) my skill.

Using the biorifle is something of a dark art, and I go through phases of really enjoying the biorifle for the challenge, and hating it because it's not one of those guns you can just casually pick up and compete with on a high level. It has a multitude of disadvantages, but has some unique characteristics that make it advantageous in certain situations. But 99% of the time, the RL is just better. You only need 2 rockets to kill a medium, and the hit box of 2 of the 3 rockets is larger than the hitbox of the fully charged bio wad, and you've got 3 rockets to hit with, so your effective fatal hitbox with triple rockets is far larger. Not to mention they're faster, travel in a straight line, and do splash damage (I'd trade that stupid bounce the bio does for splash damage ANY day), and you're not vulnerable and immobile the whole time you're carrying around that wad.

legacy-ZEPIDUS
10-26-2005, 10:34 AM
the best i've seen with the biorifle are enzo and augy

legacy-KOE_85
10-26-2005, 10:58 AM
The one thing for me that makes the bio way better than the RL is the fact that I can CHOOSE when to shoot. And by using a light character while running+jumping forward, you can make that goop travel quite fast so its easier to aim and hit. I love the bio.. even tho i still need to get better with it.

legacy-frostbyte_009
10-26-2005, 04:01 PM
I'm pretty good with the bio rifle. charge up a shot, jump up the wall and let-r-rip...kills instantly if you hit someone dead on. There's a good hint for ya.[face_idea]

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-27-2005, 12:21 AM
Bio rifle rocks dude. Distance shots can be made. It has quick enough propulsion to make shots on running targets, and the arc is really imp. \ just like grenades, that's why I think that gren. and bio is a good combo. Their projectiles arc. That is what makes it a lil' bit of a challenge and that is what can give an adv. The thing that sucks about it is that freakin pistols can break the wad up, but to the same token it can be used as a defensive weapon if you are ready for the oncoming shot. If you hit rockets, rip, grenades - would be pointless to hit cause easiest to dodge - it will stop the oncoming weapons. Be warned of self splooge.
You can arc the bio up over a ledge and stay out of the line of fire. That is another cool way to use the arc. Also - just like rockets and pret. mch any weapon - work good when shot into crouds. I like rock n bio for hit box cap. Double kills abound w/ groubs of melee whores. Rocksdo most exp. damage and bio does most energy- for one shot sim. to explosive. But sniper and rip-jack also can kill one shots though fast moving targets are harder to catch. Bio can be a good survival weapon. I used it myself the other day in a match and came close to winning. I had the lead but was scared to try to further the lead cause a minute or so was left, wanted the win. Good weapon for skarjj cause poison can't backfire. Random=Flak cannon is the best weapon for oncoming melee whores.

legacy-C3RV3ZA
10-27-2005, 01:28 AM
haha. I like the cloud. Narrows peoples escape options down. Plus if I was to run around launching a bio cloud behind me every 10 seconds, it's so much easier to hear someone trying to sneak up behind me. goop is versatile which makes it, in everone elses terms, "nooby and easy to use" but then again everything is easy to use according to this forum.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-27-2005, 03:56 AM
that is a good idea- cloud to hear people's hurt when sneaking up behind you cool. Yeah I'm always listening for jump, pickup, and adrenaline sounds and what not in maze like maps where it is hard to spot enemy or when I am trying to hide and sneak up for a stealth kill. HUh huh, cue kill.

legacy-Junior
10-27-2005, 05:36 AM
The best bio user is Enzo. He's the most consistant with it. No one has a perfect shot with it but even when he misses he barely does. He also shoots a poison cloud, doesn't always gas it, so if you reflect he just turns it to gas. Also lets be honest he was the probably the first really good bio user in this game. Others have gotten to his level now but before it used to be only him. Next would be augy, Shakam, and clue. Don't know what it is with the DiS guys but they all good with the bio. You can only really tell how good someone is with the bio in a one on one. The bio is too easy to use in DM if you have decent aim with it. Lets be honest once you get your aim down, gooping people from long range with the bio is pretty simple. Now killing someone with it in the middle of a one on one fight when they have a shock riffle, THATS skill. Thats why I like the augy vs clue vid cause he puts to rest the whole bio is not a "skilled" gone arguement.

legacy-KOE_85
10-31-2005, 03:25 AM
Mentioning bio/gl a good combo..

what do you think about rip/bio combo? Since both have the same charging and it can be held forever. And both do decent damage.

Oh and the cloud.. i always shoot poison clouds but dont explode them.. so when i miss i can still do the cloud .. or as said before, i can explode it when rejected...

btw, does secondary fire use more ammo when clouding and not exploding or just the same ammount as a normal secondary shot?

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-31-2005, 04:14 AM
IDK all weapons have similarities. Some the trajectory are more similar than other the main combos i think are rock snipe I like fo lights, flak shok mids, gren bio skarjj, stinger and rip for my heavies, But alot of the weapons go to characters. I jus found out flak is skarjj weapon so flak and bio what is skarjj energy weapon? I like rip n snipe both make headshots.

legacy-Cecchino
10-31-2005, 04:49 AM
ive been told that im one of the best that people ahev played with but in my own opinion enzo is the best bio player by far in my mind he amkes some amazin shots that i could never make so he is the best in my mind

legacy-C3RV3ZA
10-31-2005, 06:25 AM
what are you talkin about enzo being the first good bio user?? were you around in the beginning? ever heard of Carnage or are carnage and enzo 1 in the same? I myself used bio religiously at one point (like everyother weapon I had my lil phase) but bio was my first weapon I used. I hit 90% of my shots and i'm sure anyone that played with me regularly back then can vouch for me. I cant use it very well anymore simply because I use everything else alot more but thats besides the point. enzo was not the first really good bio user. Carnage, DamnU/GokuDBZ, Akris jBi are a few names of the top of my head that were hella good with the bio when this game released. IMO carnage was better than enzo.. but if they're the same person than he has dropped a few steps with it.

legacy-HaloTitan
10-31-2005, 07:05 AM
I am

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-31-2005, 07:12 AM
Carnage is pretty good w/ bio, so is oak coast, enzo is Damn good, blakmon is good IDK alot of peeps is good. I've never been amazed by anyone.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-31-2005, 07:18 AM
wtf, did anybody else see Halo's vid, it made me think it was a demo of his bio skills WHAT A FUNKIN RIP. IT is not bio skills MENTOS commercial don't watch it.

legacy-ShredPrince2
10-31-2005, 07:36 AM
Best person with Bio:

Whoever's mastered the big glob lock on trick.

legacy-blackm0n
10-31-2005, 07:37 AM
Carnage is pretty good w/ bio, so is oak coast, enzo is Damn good, blakmon is good IDK alot of peeps is good. I've never been amazed by anyone.

Dude im garbage

legacy-SoToAsT
10-31-2005, 08:11 AM
in my opinion augy is the best with the bio.

legacy-Callisto_Xii
10-31-2005, 08:19 AM
From what I've seen....Augy, Enzo, Blakm0n, Megaman00,
I was playing with some guy today in a random DM....HotDragon420, he was pretty good with it.

legacy-5parda
10-31-2005, 08:36 AM
II HERO II is good...

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
10-31-2005, 09:06 AM
blakmon look at callisto another misguided fan. I'm seeing more and more people using the bio now. But I have been playing more than usual

legacy-blackm0n
10-31-2005, 12:58 PM
From what I've seen....Augy, Enzo, Blakm0n, Megaman00,
I was playing with some guy today in a random DM....HotDragon420, he was pretty good with it.



from what ive seen your better than me with it

and all my kills with the wad are by luck everytime i shoot it im gonna turn it into poison but people just run into it.

and since Enzo wont teach me ill always be a noob, i cant even EMP combo right. And i thought i was a pro.

legacy-Zionix
11-01-2005, 02:10 AM
i believe i am the best player with the GOOP because it well easy and i could pwn anyone with it lol

legacy-R1DDLED
11-01-2005, 04:26 AM
Goops easy, and Enzo uses it in survival with speed. Lol...

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 05:23 AM
Good is hilariously easy in close quaters, but solid at range. Comparable to the flak cannon really.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
11-01-2005, 05:36 AM
Good is hilariously easy. Bad is umcomically hard. Witness my perfection. Hellspunk FYI bitc|-| is a synonym for punk.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 05:40 AM
Noobie displays the power of spam, yet again.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
11-01-2005, 06:24 AM
***** you can't spell or comprehend. All you can say is spam and be convinced of that you're right and on top. goop not good

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 06:42 AM
Arf, another hypocritical SOB.

legacy-Noobie_Incorporated
11-01-2005, 06:50 AM
Actually spunk started rippin on noobie first. He said I was spamming when I ponited out a typo: Goop was spelled Good. He said Good - meaning goop - is hilariously easy. Just joking, I said, "BAD -opposite of good - is uncomically - antonym of hilariously, and also in adverb form - difficult - opposite of easy...Get tha joke?..no harm done.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 07:01 AM
Actually spunk started rippin on noobie first. He said I was spamming when I ponited out a typo: Goop was spelled Good. He said Good - meaning goop - is hilariously easy. Just joking, I said, "BAD -opposite of good - is uncomically - antonym of hilariously, and also in adverb form - difficult - opposite of easy...Get tha joke?..no harm done.

Im sure making pointless corrections will make you a big fat 1,000 posts some day. You done now?

legacy-Junior
11-01-2005, 09:38 AM
what are you talkin about enzo being the first good bio user?? were you around in the beginning? ever heard of Carnage or are carnage and enzo 1 in the same? I myself used bio religiously at one point (like everyother weapon I had my lil phase) but bio was my first weapon I used. I hit 90% of my shots and i'm sure anyone that played with me regularly back then can vouch for me. I cant use it very well anymore simply because I use everything else alot more but thats besides the point. enzo was not the first really good bio user. Carnage, DamnU/GokuDBZ, Akris jBi are a few names of the top of my head that were hella good with the bio when this game released. IMO carnage was better than enzo.. but if they're the same person than he has dropped a few steps with it.

I wasn't around when the game first came out but maybe like a month after anyway Enzo was the first one that I noticed that was actually owning with the Bio. Not knocking on Carnage, DamnU or anyone else but I never played with them so I can't really speak on their skills but I'm sure they were good.

legacy-XoVeNmiTsX
11-01-2005, 12:13 PM
Clue is teh best at bio

legacy-Callisto_Xii
11-01-2005, 12:24 PM
X Sh0ck x.....rofl [face_laugh]

legacy-WreckZR
11-01-2005, 12:53 PM
all goopers are bad at game

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 01:08 PM
all goopers are bad at game

You guys get funnier everytime you post.

No, seriously.

legacy-Carn4ge
11-01-2005, 01:12 PM
I've gotta admit I'm not as good with the BIO as when the game was first out, but I promise I was one of the first owning with it. I rely more on rockets now, grenades every now and then, they just work so damn well.

legacy-Ninja720
11-01-2005, 01:15 PM
i personally dont like th GL, most people just spam the alternates, so it takes next to no skill. Now, if you use the primary and can nail people in the face with it, i applaud you [face_applause]

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 01:15 PM
GL is hard weapon to master, but it almost always results in complete spam. Primary and Secondary.

legacy-Ninja720
11-01-2005, 01:17 PM
GL is hard weapon to master, but it almost always results in complete spam. Primary and Secondary.
True that.

legacy-XoVeNmiTsX
11-01-2005, 02:32 PM
what weapons dont have some noobish tactic?
Flak-spam
Rockets-empcombo
Rip=empcombo
Grenades-spam

Shock-blast radius-spam
goop-hit box-spam noobie cloud
stinger-hold down trigger
sniper-"everyone whos good has a mouse and keyboard" -not my opinon, but ive heard it quite a bit.

i think the question is which weapon isnt the noobiest ne more. cuz if your good w/ a weapon, your not good w/ it, you whore it. <sarcasm. if your good your good.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-01-2005, 02:35 PM
If your good you won't use the above.

But the grenade launcher always results in spam wether your trying to or not, because of the general behaviour of the weapon.

legacy-Ninja720
11-01-2005, 02:35 PM
stinger-hold down trigger
sniper-"everyone whos good has a mouse and keyboard" -not my opinon, but ive heard it quite a bit.

lol, so from the looks of it, to be "good" use a stinger or sniper, cuz those are the only ones that retarded explanations :P

legacy-XoVeNmiTsX
11-01-2005, 03:56 PM
IMO those are the hardest to use. so yes :)

legacy-Acid_2_140bpm
11-01-2005, 03:59 PM
Ninja...by any chance are you the same DRB Ninja I saw today in a packed DM?

legacy-onenation
11-01-2005, 04:41 PM
I normally never use it, but i did this guy shoot a blob, and it exploded in to several blobs. Does anyone know how to do this?

legacy-R1DDLED
11-01-2005, 04:46 PM
It's when it hits someone or gets shot whilst in the air.

legacy-onenation
11-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Oh, how do you make the cloud with it, or do I have the wrong weapon.

legacy-R1DDLED
11-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Charge it up with the lefy trigger, shoot it with the right, then let go off the left.

legacy-LGD_Desecrate
11-01-2005, 04:57 PM
lol I didn't play with one person in this game that was good with the goop gun maybe C4rnage thats about it.

legacy-onenation
11-01-2005, 04:59 PM
Right on Riddled. I thought there was a way to make the glob explode in the air. I thought that **** looked real good. I didn't realize that must have been me shootin the ball.

legacy-JDOG
11-02-2005, 02:47 AM
If your good you won't use the above.

But the grenade launcher always results in spam wether your trying to or not, because of the general behaviour of the weapon.

Only people just shooting spam the weapon. If you are shooting to hit you get hits. If you wait to shoot and know the trajectory of the weapon and only pull the trigger when the reticule is on the target or think the projectile will intercept the opponent, you know what's up. If every time you pull the trigger, you get a hit, that is not spam. But if all you can do is spam it when you miss...you can't understand that. Spamming normally occurs out of frustration and excitement keep your cool and take a death once in a while and you will still make great accurate shots. But sometimes it is hard to keep cool when getting blasted by a wall jumping single rocket whoring light character fiend. But then again spam--can you not dodge...I can dodge grenades all day. Sometimes I will just dodge and not shoot at someone just for fun to see how long I can dodge for. The well dodge??? What is hard to dodge is banking grendes. Because once you are in a corner or close quarters area a dodged grenade can soon bounce off the wall and hit you. Yeah dude just work on your dodgeing movement.

legacy-onenation
11-02-2005, 02:57 AM
If your good you won't use the above.

But the grenade launcher always results in spam wether your trying to or not, because of the general behaviour of the weapon.

Only people just shooting spam the weapon. If you are shooting to hit you get hits. If you wait to shoot and know the trajectory of the weapon and only pull the trigger when the reticule is on the target or think the projectile will intercept the opponent, you know what's up. If every time you pull the trigger, you get a hit, that is not spam. But if all you can do is spam it when you miss...you can't understand that. Spamming normally occurs out of frustration and excitement keep your cool and take a death once in a while and you will still make great accurate shots. But sometimes it is hard to keep cool when getting blasted by a wall jumping single rocket whoring light character fiend. But then again spam--can you not dodge...I can dodge grenades all day. Sometimes I will just dodge and not shoot at someone just for fun to see how long I can dodge for. The well dodge??? What is hard to dodge is banking grendes. Because once you are in a corner or close quarters area a dodged grenade can soon bounce off the wall and hit you. Yeah dude just work on your dodgeing movement.

Damn Dr. Phil, thats deep.

legacy-Ninja720
11-02-2005, 03:23 AM
Ninja...by any chance are you the same DRB Ninja I saw today in a packed DM?
nah man that wasn't me, im just Ninja720, i like to keep my tags the same so people dont get confused.

legacy-JDOG
11-02-2005, 03:29 AM
Call me phil...Philharmonius thelonius monk super funk lil' chunk keep it krunk..yeah BOY. WESTside.

legacy-Acid_2_140bpm
11-02-2005, 05:23 AM
nah man that wasn't me, im just Ninja720, i like to keep my tags the same so people dont get confused.

Good. Same here.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-02-2005, 07:25 AM
Anyway, to sum up the Bio rifle, close quaters, just as easy as the rocket launcher, infact, harder. Long range, hard as hell.

Infact, it only has one advantage over the rocket launcher, and that aint hitbox, seeying as the rocket themselves have a large hit box AND blast radius, it's the fact you release when you want to. That's right sparda, when you look at the Bio with logic, and not stupid assumptions, the rocket launcher is actually easier to use.

EDIT: O yeah, there is the poisen cloud thing, but wether that is used tactically or spamfully is up too the user.

legacy-JDOG
11-02-2005, 08:09 AM
Also the trajectory of the goop is arched and that can up the difficulty but you still time it in a straight line the only time it comes into play, and when it does it can be very useful, is when the opponent is above or below the shooter. But most te time if you have reticule there it goes in straight line as with most weapons difficult shots come from distance and movement/movement anticipation. Rockets have a straight trajectory which makes for less factors in an equation, which therefore creates a simpler equation, rockets also can travel the distance of a map, so, in my opinion rockets are easier to use. But then goop moves slower which can sometimes make it harder easier to hit opponent. Rockets travel faster, and the same problems are presented. The only thing that downplays the shot or difficulty is the splash damage from rockets and the rocket burst. And the semi-serpent-I can't remember word but semi-homing-effect of a fully launched goop and the poison cloud. Either way all shots are intentional and everytime someone pulls the trigger it is in hopes of accomplishing their goals and vanquishing their foes. ALL KILLS ARE GOOD KILLS. F honor AND FAIRNESS. What really matters is who wins. The rest is personal. You can try to talk people out of winning try to get in their heads to make them think your way is right. But those are normally the losers. LOSERS.
Sincerely,
GOO GOT

legacy-Tug_Soldi3r
11-02-2005, 09:51 PM
kinda agree with that.....

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-03-2005, 02:49 AM
But skilless players who whore glitches and exploits in the weapons are the real losers. And anyone with sense should be able to see that.

legacy-Junior
11-03-2005, 05:28 AM
The goop is a hard weapon to use in general. People who say it is noob don't understand the intricacies of it. It is very hard to own good players with it. Yes its a one shot kill but getting that one shot is difficult. Forget the aiming of it. Once you get the aim down, as with every other gun in the game, its fairly simple to aim and use.

The real issue is getting a good shot off without dying in the process. When you have a goop charged you are essentially a moving target. You have no defense and a limited offense because its one shot then recharge wait then shoot again. It is easy as hell to combo goopers, hit them with rockets, grenades, or any other weapon. The skill in using the goop is not necessarily aiming it but actually keeping yourself alive in order to it.

A good player will try to take you out at range once they see you with your goop charged before you can get that shot off. You aint just gonna run up on them and hit them with the goop. They wont let you get close to them. In a one on one the goop is NOT a cheap weapon because you only have yourself to blame for getting hit. Factor in the slowness of the goop and how easy it is to reflect,on a decent server, then you really have yourself to blame for getting hit or the person just made a good shot and it is what it is.

Now in DM the goop is fairly easy to use. Long range shots with the goop when someone doesn't see it coming is not hard at all. Maybe when you first start using it it seems hard but anyone who uses it often and has the aim down will tell you that although these are impressive looking shots they are some of the easier shots to make with the goop. Hitting someone in the middle of an intense fire fight is a lot more difficult.

Its easy to pick people off with goop when they are preoccupied. One would think that having to hold a charged weapon in DM with people flying all around you would be a disadvantage but when that weapon is a one hit kill its not. You can just lay back and splatter people at range with out them ever knowing what hit them. Factor in all the melee noobs in DM and the goop is one of the best DM weapons IMO.

In conclusion the bio is difficult in 1v1 but not so dificult in DM if you know how to use it. The key is you have to KNOW how to use it.

legacy-JDOG
11-03-2005, 09:20 AM
some of the real skills come in dodgeing shots in open areas when there are no walls to bounce off of. What ever you use most will norm become most easy but flak goop grenades, shok should be hardest to use because flak goop grenades have abnormal arches in trajectories. Flak shots die out but great close range, goop, and sec. grenades don't have good distance and none really have good speed or velocity. Shock you have two things yo gotta deal with the core and the shot and is hard to do in firefight and abnormal motion but becomes easier like all things, with practice.

legacy-DeathDealer
11-03-2005, 11:06 AM
I have found that the Bio is best on a small map or at least in tight corridors. It is really hard to judge the arc at long range. Even if you are really good at the Bio, it doesn't compare to a really good rocket user. Rockets trump everything.

Even the Grenande launcher. I used to be really good at nailing primary shots, but I gave it up because you can't keep up to a rocket-whore with it. Just not enough speed, range and blast radius.

So I have given up my quest to be good at anything but the RL and started practicing with the RL because there is no other choice....

legacy-ra1n
11-03-2005, 11:34 AM
i just think its ****ed up of epic to make a game that tries to balance stealth with long range. This isnt halo. The maps are in a box not a feild. I donno the game has a lot of exploits. To add in the lag glitches, freezes, and the nice boot feature... Well gives it-it's place as one of the biggest let downs on the xbox console.

The only reason i play it is b/c halo you either dominate or get dominated. While the teamwork in big team battle takes is on a whole different level then that of lil old UC2.

But to make the world a better place i'll tell you all about the bio.

The bio sucks. It's easily one of the biggest waste of time you can have with a weapon. The only thing less fufilling to kill with is a sniper kill with UD. Take it from me. Unless you want to be as geeked out on this game much like all the other awsome bio users. Don't bother b/c it takes a lot of time and hiding. There is no real "best." It's easy to switch to your melee b4 you die with a gun so kills and death ratio doesnt matter. I look at the hours on the weapon compared to the frags. 5000 kills and 140 hrs of play w/ the bio. Thats... about 36 people per hour of usage are killed by it. since matches at max are 30 min long. That's friggin 18 frags in 30 min. Wth would people play with you if you took that long to get a bio kill. It's only good if you roxor 5x more with your explosive weapon when using it. It's awsome for the sneeky ****. But you can't base your life and style by it otherwise you'd be a gay wad choker who can't get enough of getting spooges doggy style only.

legacy-Junior
11-04-2005, 05:28 AM
^^actually i have my highest frags per hour with the bio. It rapes in DM. Really it does. Thats why I can see why people say its noob because when you know how to shoot it you can go in a DM and just goop everyone without them ever realising what hit them.

legacy-JDOG
11-04-2005, 08:18 AM
yeah dudeI went from having like thirty something to having twelve hundred kills with bio in less than a week.

legacy-ra1n
11-04-2005, 09:03 PM
man i played one night for like 3 hours and got 800 frags with the rl. Bio is slow as hell.

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-04-2005, 09:13 PM
I'm tellin ya...the lock on wad is soo easy to pwn people with it's sad.

legacy-DeathDealer
11-05-2005, 02:42 AM
Rockets are the easiest explosive weapon to use. Nuff said! I have to say that if there is someone out there who can bouce primary grenades off my head all day then he is definetely better than any Rocket-whore-bandwagon jumper. The same is to be said about someone who can shoot accurate mid/long range Bio shots and nail you consistantly. It takes more skill.

Here is an idea!!! Make a server/mutator/whatever rule that prevents you from choosing rockets!!

Back to topic.... Who out there can consistantly hit with the bio from mid/long range? I am not talkin' about straight-on shots where you target is in front of you, but intercept shots at people moving horizontally to your position and up-down all over the place.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-05-2005, 03:01 AM
Only severely skilled players cant actually even think about getting mid/long range bio shots.

To all the people who think Bio is a noobs weapon: Your Stupid.

legacy-Ez_Jamin
11-05-2005, 03:05 AM
EnZo END OF

legacy-Tug_Soldi3r
11-05-2005, 03:52 AM
all energy weapons are easy to use end of, shock just feels better.
and for explosive weapons the easiest is the rockets, but they aint as easy as people make out, as if you are playin a good rocket user, and your using rockets ur movement has to be correct or ur fcuked.

ps; to stick to the topic, enzo is the best with it, as he is the only 1 i remember using it as a main weapon.

legacy-DeathDealer
11-05-2005, 04:18 AM
Well where is this EnZo person? Maybe he will show me a thing or two about the Bio because that gun is just FUN. SpLaT!!!

legacy-Primitive
11-05-2005, 07:46 AM
If we are talkin about nowadays then Zepidus is prolly the best just becuz he doesnt need speed and a big character like enzo and he doesnt do the whole get in your face and shoot you point blank he makes skilled shots....but old school prolly Carnage.

legacy-JDOG
11-05-2005, 08:33 AM
I'm pretty good with the bio but have given it up and started using shock instead but for a while there bio was all I used. Bio and rockets, I'd use bio before I had rockets and always walked around with it charged up jus cause the bio is cool. Bio was like my shotgun and rocks were my sniper/shotgun. but now I use the flak and shock

legacy-Primitive
11-05-2005, 02:26 PM
People have told me I am better than enzo cuz I make better shots and dont run with speed and a heavy character shooting people point blank I think I am horrible with the bio cuz I never give myself props.

legacy-ra1n
11-06-2005, 08:33 AM
enzo uses a heavy character with the bio so he cuts down on his self kills with it. + who wouldnt want to not die in 1 bio hit.

legacy-JDOG
11-06-2005, 08:44 AM
Prim you got alot o kills w/ it witt you are pretty good gnome is all right. Carnage is pretty good I am good with it but have been using shock I might star using bio again.

legacy-ra1n
11-06-2005, 09:39 AM
JDOG

Host your own server, put in novice bots and play that for 3 hours and you will be considered the best bio user on the boards.

oops did i give away everyones secret?

legacy-JDOG
11-06-2005, 10:36 AM
I respect good bio shots and I haven't seen that many I've made better shots than most I see. I've seen a couple real good augy shots and one or two good callisto in the montage when I play with others most good shots they mak are ones almost anyone could make. Some make alot more. Rain-what you mean who does the novice bot thing.

snoogans460
11-06-2005, 10:43 AM
Does killing helpless bots online on your own server count as legitimate kills?

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-06-2005, 11:18 AM
Yes, but you can't get quality kills from them.

legacy-ZEPIDUS
11-06-2005, 01:32 PM
primitive comes up with the sickest far away goop shots I've seen

legacy-JDOG
11-06-2005, 06:04 PM
I have some deathly sick distance goops but have only knocked out a couple of the renowned players with them, but I norm. don't play with the tops Well most of em but never grav or peace and rarely trag. But I have had a couple of shots that amazed me and that is what makes me love the game even more--that is why I play to test myself and succeed and make ridiculous things and shots imagine and accomplish.

legacy-ra1n
11-06-2005, 08:02 PM
just don't use the bio head on. Thats really it.

legacy-JDOG
11-06-2005, 09:18 PM
anyone can make close range bio. Anyone can be good at all weapons try but not too hard don't overwork yourself.

legacy-Primitive
11-07-2005, 05:15 AM
Meh I never give myself props for anything but right now rocks and bio are my best weapons in and out of my server me and Zep are like bio brothers it would blow your mind how many times we hit one guy with both of our goops Zepidus is a really leet player.

legacy-Zionix
11-09-2005, 10:44 PM
Im the best with the goop, Callisto will tell you so after some studlike goops in an american server [face_hypnotized]


They were mostly in the back.[face_dancing] but its the goop its supposed to be cheap...right.

legacy-Primitive
11-10-2005, 12:06 PM
ROFL everyones the best with the goop nowadays I am good with it in and out of my server just ask some of the brits who have seen me use it I am pretty consistent but not the best.