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legacy-MeTh0d
11-13-2005, 03:55 AM
So I saw the xbox 360 backwards compatible list and I noticed that UC and UC2 were not included in the list. Has anyone heard anything different about these games being supported on the 360?

Thanks!

legacy-ra1n
11-13-2005, 07:18 AM
no word yet.

joeGraf
11-14-2005, 08:30 AM
We were surprised that our games weren't on the list either.

legacy-Devil
11-14-2005, 08:33 AM
I'm not, try and keep in touch with your fanbase more and don't churn out unfinished games, your company didn't even bother patching it. Rofl, and you thought Microsoft would give it's console a bad name by letting a few lagged up glitchy titles onto it? Fat chance. Only popular games got onto this list, it wasn't popular online, and who's fault is that? Exacaly.

legacy-Narcninja
11-14-2005, 08:49 AM
yo tell em riddled

legacy-JDOG
11-14-2005, 08:54 AM
best xbox live game of 2003? Shortage of 360's said to be a deliberate move by microsoft. I'm surprised. Maybe cause of the glitches. Maybe to sell off original xbox's cause microsoft knows that this series has die har fans. I am keeping my original xbox when I get my 360 so I can play this game.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-14-2005, 08:58 AM
JDOG, keep up with the times.

Microsoft have announced there isnt a shortage, and it has been backed up by all the major retailer's.

P.S Devil is right.

legacy-Callisto_Xii
11-14-2005, 09:23 AM

legacy-February
11-14-2005, 09:40 AM
I'm not, try and keep in touch with your fanbase more and don't churn out unfinished games, your company didn't even bother patching it. Rofl, and you thought Microsoft would give it's console a bad name by letting a few lagged up glitchy titles onto it? Fat chance. Only popular games got onto this list, it wasn't popular online, and who's fault is that? Exacaly.

And you wonder why they dont post here anymore? Because dumbasses like you insult them whenever they do. Joe shouldn't have said anything.

And I love when you say Only popular games got on the list- tell me- have you read the list yet?!

Here are some of the so called 'popular' games according to you. Ive decided to go ahead and bold and red print the most amusing 'popular' games:







Barbarian

Barbie Horse Adventure - you must have liked this one huh? Seeing as how its so popular.

Battle Engine Aquila

Battlestar Galactica

Blinx 2

BMX XXX

Brute Force

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Chaos Bleeds

Cabela's Dangerous Hunts
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures 06

Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005

Cabela's Deer Hunt: 2004 Season

Casino

Catwoman

Chicago Enforcer

Circus Maximus

Close Combat: First to Fight

Colin McRae 4

Combat Elite

Commandos 2

Constantine

Crash Bandicoot: Twinsanity

Crash Nitro Kart

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Curse - The Eye of Isis

Dark Angel

Darkwatch

Deathrow

Digimon Rumble Arena

Dinotopia

Drake

Egg Mania

ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002

Euro 2004

F1 Championship Season 2001

Fable

Fable: The Lost Chapters

Fairly Odd Parents:Breakin' da Rules >> this one was so popular I couldnt find it anywhere!

FIFA 2003

FIFA 2004

FIFA Street 2005

FIFA World Cup 2002

Fight Night 2004

Fight Night Round 2

Ford Mustang Racing

Ford vs. Chevy

Forza Motorsport

Freedom Fighters

Frogger

Futurama

Fuzion Frenzy

Genma Onimusha

Goblin Commander

Grabbed by the Ghoulies

Grand Theft Auto III

Grand Theft Auto Vice City

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.

Grooverider: Slot Car Thunder

Half-Life 2

Halo

Halo 2

Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire

Harry Potter & The Sorcerer's Stone

He-Man: Defender of Grayskull

Hitman: Contracts

House of the Dead 3

IHRA Drag Racing 2005 Sportsman Edition

IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005

Jade Empire

James Bond 007: Nightfire

Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

Judge Dredd: Dredd vs. Death

Jurassic Park Operation Genesis

Kabuki Warrior

Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer

Kids Next Door: Operation VIDEOGAME

kill.switch

Legends of Wrestling

Lemony Snicket A Series of Unfortunate Events

Loons Fight for Fame

Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

Manhunt

Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2

Max Payne

Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

Medal of Honor 3 Rising Sun

Medal of Honor Frontline

Medal of Honor: European Assault

Mega Man

Metal Arms: Glitch in the System

MicroMachines Odyssey

Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing

Monster Garage

Mortal Kombat: Deception

MTV Music Generator 3

Murakumo

MX World Tour - featuring Jamie Little

Namco Museum X Next Generation

NBA Live 2003

NBA Live 2004

Need For Speed: Underground 2

NFL Blitz 2002

NFL Blitz 20-03

NFL Blitz 20-04

NHL 2004

NHL Hitz 20-03

Ninja Gaiden

Ninja Gaiden Black

Outlaw Golf 2

Outlaw Volleyball

Pariah

Phantom Crash

Pinball Hall of Fame

Pitfall: The Lost Expedition

Predator

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Pro Evolution Soccer 5

Pro Race Driver

PUMP IT UP

Pure Pinball

Puyo Puyo Fever

Quantum Redshift

Rayman Arena

Raze's Hell

Red Dead Revolver

Red Faction II

RedCard 20-03

Robotech: Battle Cry

Rocky: Legends

Rogue Ops

Rugby 2005

Samurai Jack

Samurai Warriors

Scooby Doo: Night of 100 Frights

Scrapland

SeaWorld: Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures

Sega GT 2002

Shadow the Hedgehog

Shellshock:Nam '67

Sid Meier's Pirates!

Simpson's Road Rage

Simpsons: Hit and Run

Sneakers

Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945

Soccer Slam

Sonic Heroes

Sonic Mega Collection

Speed Kings

Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy

Splat Renegade Paintball

SpongeBob Square Pants:Battle for Bikini Bottom

Spy Hunter 2

Spyro: A Hero's Tail

SSX 3

Stake

Star Trek: Shattered Universe

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Star Wars: Clone Wars

Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter

Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic

Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic 2

Street Racing Syndicate

Stubbs the Zombie: Rebel Without a Pulse

Super Bubble Pop

Super Monkey Ball DX

SX Superstar

Tecmo Classic Arcade

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Terminator : Dawn of Fate

Test Drive: Eve of Destruction

Tetris Worlds

The Great Escape

The Incredible Hulk

The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction

The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer

The Thing

Thief: Deadly Shadows

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3

Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4

Tony Hawk's Underground 2

Tork

Toxic Grind

Ty The Tasmanian Tiger

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3

Urban Freestyle Soccer

Vexx

Volvo: Drive for Life

World Series Baseball 2K

Worms 4: Mayhem

Worms Forts Under Siege

WWE Raw 2

XIII

Yourself!Fitness




( I deleted some of the titles here. )

I think you get the point.

legacy-onenation
11-14-2005, 02:45 PM
I'm not, try and keep in touch with your fanbase more and don't churn out unfinished games, your company didn't even bother patching it. Rofl, and you thought Microsoft would give it's console a bad name by letting a few lagged up glitchy titles onto it? Fat chance. Only popular games got onto this list, it wasn't popular online, and who's fault is that? Exacaly.

And you wonder why they dont post here anymore? Because dumbasses like you insult them whenever they do. Joe shouldn't have said anything.

And I love when you say Only popular games got on the list- tell me- have you read the list yet?!

Here are some of the so called 'popular' games according to you. Ive decided to go ahead and bold and red print the most amusing 'popular' games:







Barbarian

Barbie Horse Adventure - you must have liked this one huh? Seeing as how its so popular.

Battle Engine Aquila

Battlestar Galactica

Blinx 2

BMX XXX

Brute Force

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Chaos Bleeds

Cabela's Dangerous Hunts
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures 06

Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005

Cabela's Deer Hunt: 2004 Season

Casino

Catwoman

Chicago Enforcer

Circus Maximus

Close Combat: First to Fight

Colin McRae 4

Combat Elite

Commandos 2

Constantine

Crash Bandicoot: Twinsanity

Crash Nitro Kart

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Curse - The Eye of Isis

Dark Angel

Darkwatch

Deathrow

Digimon Rumble Arena

Dinotopia

Drake

Egg Mania

ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002

Euro 2004

F1 Championship Season 2001

Fable

Fable: The Lost Chapters

Fairly Odd Parents:Breakin' da Rules >> this one was so popular I couldnt find it anywhere!

FIFA 2003

FIFA 2004

FIFA Street 2005

FIFA World Cup 2002

Fight Night 2004

Fight Night Round 2

Ford Mustang Racing

Ford vs. Chevy

Forza Motorsport

Freedom Fighters

Frogger

Futurama

Fuzion Frenzy

Genma Onimusha

Goblin Commander

Grabbed by the Ghoulies

Grand Theft Auto III

Grand Theft Auto Vice City

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.

Grooverider: Slot Car Thunder

Half-Life 2

Halo

Halo 2

Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire

Harry Potter & The Sorcerer's Stone

He-Man: Defender of Grayskull

Hitman: Contracts

House of the Dead 3

IHRA Drag Racing 2005 Sportsman Edition

IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005

Jade Empire

James Bond 007: Nightfire

Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

Judge Dredd: Dredd vs. Death

Jurassic Park Operation Genesis

Kabuki Warrior

Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer

Kids Next Door: Operation VIDEOGAME

kill.switch

Legends of Wrestling

Lemony Snicket A Series of Unfortunate Events

Loons Fight for Fame

Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

Manhunt

Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2

Max Payne

Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne

Medal of Honor 3 Rising Sun

Medal of Honor Frontline

Medal of Honor: European Assault

Mega Man

Metal Arms: Glitch in the System

MicroMachines Odyssey

Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing

Monster Garage

Mortal Kombat: Deception

MTV Music Generator 3

Murakumo

MX World Tour - featuring Jamie Little

Namco Museum X Next Generation

NBA Live 2003

NBA Live 2004

Need For Speed: Underground 2

NFL Blitz 2002

NFL Blitz 20-03

NFL Blitz 20-04

NHL 2004

NHL Hitz 20-03

Ninja Gaiden

Ninja Gaiden Black

Outlaw Golf 2

Outlaw Volleyball

Pariah

Phantom Crash

Pinball Hall of Fame

Pitfall: The Lost Expedition

Predator

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Pro Evolution Soccer 5

Pro Race Driver

PUMP IT UP

Pure Pinball

Puyo Puyo Fever

Quantum Redshift

Rayman Arena

Raze's Hell

Red Dead Revolver

Red Faction II

RedCard 20-03

Robotech: Battle Cry

Rocky: Legends

Rogue Ops

Rugby 2005

Samurai Jack

Samurai Warriors

Scooby Doo: Night of 100 Frights

Scrapland

SeaWorld: Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures

Sega GT 2002

Shadow the Hedgehog

Shellshock:Nam '67

Sid Meier's Pirates!

Simpson's Road Rage

Simpsons: Hit and Run

Sneakers

Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945

Soccer Slam

Sonic Heroes

Sonic Mega Collection

Speed Kings

Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy

Splat Renegade Paintball

SpongeBob Square Pants:Battle for Bikini Bottom

Spy Hunter 2

Spyro: A Hero's Tail

SSX 3

Stake

Star Trek: Shattered Universe

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Star Wars: Clone Wars

Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter

Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic

Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic 2

Street Racing Syndicate

Stubbs the Zombie: Rebel Without a Pulse

Super Bubble Pop

Super Monkey Ball DX

SX Superstar

Tecmo Classic Arcade

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Terminator : Dawn of Fate

Test Drive: Eve of Destruction

Tetris Worlds

The Great Escape

The Incredible Hulk

The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction

The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer

The Thing

Thief: Deadly Shadows

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3

Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4

Tony Hawk's Underground 2

Tork

Toxic Grind

Ty The Tasmanian Tiger

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2

Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3

Urban Freestyle Soccer

Vexx

Volvo: Drive for Life

World Series Baseball 2K

Worms 4: Mayhem

Worms Forts Under Siege

WWE Raw 2

XIII

Yourself!Fitness




( I deleted some of the titles here. )

I think you get the point.



You have to admit, Devil has a point. But, you have one too. But I have to agree with Devil more.

legacy-InnermostPhear
11-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Yourself!Fitness

I really wanna play this when I get 360

legacy-JDOG
11-14-2005, 06:58 PM
you could have just posted the crappy games instead of all the others lost time and wasted space. Oh well keep your original xboxes and maybe mod em I am keepin my original for games not on 360. oh well UT 7 will come and shock and more weapons will return with new gametypes more maps hope more characters and a bigger ccommunity and everything.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-14-2005, 07:44 PM
You all missed my thread here I made 2 days ago :P
http://forums.epicgames.com/all_things_uc2/b10666/22260933/p1/?27

Anyway, I guess this thread has a shorter title :) So here is my contribution to the UC2 community. It is the contribution of hope. (copied + pasted from that thread):


"You'll all want to see this >:)


<The following is an official response from Midway Support about the UC2 backwards compatibility>

Response:
Thank you for contacting Midway Tech/Customer Support. Please see
below for details about your inquiry to Midway.

Although the game may not be supported at launch, the emulator (needed
to run xbox games) will be updated by Microsoft periodically after
the 360's launch.

We cannot guarantee the game will run on a 360, but we do have people
looking into the possibility of UC2 on that console.

My guess, if it's not supported on release of the 360, it won't be
long before it is.

Regards,

Support

This is a 100% real response, you should all ask them yourselves and see what they say to confirm ( www.midway.com ) and to help bug them about it a little ;). I e-mailed them saying I didn't expect to hear they guarantee that it's going to happen, but rather that I would hope to see that it is being looked into at the very least.

They have confirmed my hopes.

Rejoice! (with the knowledge that it might not happen or at least not too soon, but at least it's a good shot now ). Let me know if you want to see the question I asked as well. "

There you have it, Joegraf + community :) The current state of affairs. What do you guys think?

joeGraf
11-15-2005, 02:11 AM
The reason we were surprised was because MS *asked* us to send them extra stuff so they could get the game running.

joeGraf
11-15-2005, 04:58 AM
Obviously, we want our games to be supported via the backwards compatibility. I know we've asked that they be supported on several occasions.

legacy-Devil
11-15-2005, 05:00 AM
But are you even going to fix this game?

legacy-Junior
11-15-2005, 05:02 AM
Well Epic has done its part its just up to M$ to get it down. No need to fret though people. B/C on the 360 will be an ongoing process. Eventually it will be done. That list is not set in stone.

legacy-Devil
11-15-2005, 05:40 AM
But are you even going to fix this game?

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-15-2005, 05:41 AM
Well, if M$ Asked, they asked. Maybe UC2 is too be on the extras to the list coming soon.

CounterZeus
11-15-2005, 06:07 AM
As long as Epic get UT2k7 right and with support for a single processor, I'm fine [face_whistling]

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-15-2005, 10:09 AM
<The following is an official response from Midway Support about the UC2 backwards compatibility>

Response:
Thank you for contacting Midway Tech/Customer Support. Please see
below for details about your inquiry to Midway.

Although the game may not be supported at launch, the emulator (needed
to run xbox games) will be updated by Microsoft periodically after
the 360's launch.

We cannot guarantee the game will run on a 360, but we do have people
looking into the possibility of UC2 on that console.

My guess, if it's not supported on release of the 360, it won't be
long before it is.

Regards,

Support




So basically if it's not supported they might re-release it for 360? Nice, as long as they don't try to charge another 50 bucks for it. UC2 is now 20 new at Gamestop, so would people really shell out another 50 for a remake of this game just to play it on 360?

legacy-Tug_Soldi3r
11-15-2005, 10:22 AM
i would if the grafix are beta and the glitchs are fixed and lag problems also

legacy-IceBerg760
11-15-2005, 11:49 AM
YEAH, I'd buy it again if they re-did it for 360--this game was awesome...

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-15-2005, 12:00 PM
So for a 50 dollar price tag you guys would want what?
Better Graphics?
All bots playable?
Glitch outs fixed obviously.
More new content like maps, weapons and new characters?

An if all you get is instead just glitches fixed would you pay the same?

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-15-2005, 06:08 PM
Um....the emulators needed to make Xbox games backwards compatible are all going to be free:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6139702.html

Though everyone knew that :) Oh well [face_tongue]


The reason we were surprised was because MS *asked* us to send them extra stuff so they could get the game running.

So let me understand this...they asked you to give them the emulators (the entire emulator, right?) months before the launch of 360 and they just didn't have them ready yet? Did they ever say anything to you since this time? (such as "the stuff you sent us isn't working", etc.?)


Obviously, we want our games to be supported via the backwards compatibility. I know we've asked that they be supported on several occasions.

Ah I see! So an update really is an almost sure thing...when was the last time you reminded them? Are we talking like 2 weeks ago? Or more like 4 months ago?

PS--It's awesome seeing you on the forums again, Joe :D Get ictus back here to. It's awesome to have a dev presence here again on the forums for one of the *best* games ever made! <not a suckup>

legacy-Primitive
11-18-2005, 02:25 AM
Imperial is a jackass and wants a little bit of spotlight in his life I say yall ban him so he will go kill himself cuz he wouldnt have anymore social contact since this is his life....Joe ty for any support that youve given or have tryed to get from MS and please ignore the idiots on this forum who want to show off for you.

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-18-2005, 07:44 AM
Sounds like it's out of Epic's hands.

In which case....Microsoft better do it...Or miss the sales of like 20 copies.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-18-2005, 08:11 AM
Sounds like it's out of Epic's hands.

In which case....Microsoft better do it...Or miss the sales of like 20 copies.

Im not-not going to buy X360 because they dont make an UC2 emulator. No way.

This game isnt worth not buying an X360.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-18-2005, 03:30 PM
I think Epic is in a good place to encourage everyone else to do it, but you're right it's probably not up to them to actually make the emulator. Hopefully Midway/Microsoft will get on top of it soon enough, however...

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-20-2005, 10:17 AM
I'm not buyig 360 until I see a title or 4 worth actually playing.

That junk is coming out way too early.They shoulda got some more GOW type games for launch to really show that it is truly next gen.

legacy-leOnx14
11-20-2005, 01:12 PM
I agree

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-20-2005, 01:48 PM
I just played an interactive of 360....It did look sweet.

I played King Kong and Call of Duty.

King kong looked pretty dang nice, but being a mapper/ametuer designer, I saw lots of thing not very pleasing to the eye...if your looking for it.
Of course I was looking for something bad.IT still looked really good, and I would'nt mind it at all if I could get one of the cheaper ones.

If Xbox does a price drop, and has a good game line-up around PS3's launch, I may just go with 360 regardless.

Price is a big factor for me....poket wise and principal wise.Why would I pay 100's of dollars for a chuck of plastic and silicone, when I could use those hundreds towrd PC upgrades??

I buy consoles when they get a little cheaper.The only "lauch" system I ever had was the PS2...I paid $430 to get the system, a game, and a freakin memory card...NEVVER EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-20-2005, 02:00 PM
I'm about to make the 1st of 2 mistakes in getting things at launch.

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-20-2005, 04:39 PM
hehe..."I want you to mess this due up blacknight"...lol

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-20-2005, 05:33 PM
I'm about to make the 1st of 2 mistakes in getting things at launch.

Which is? :)

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-20-2005, 06:41 PM
Getting a 360 at launch and getting a PS3 at launch.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-20-2005, 07:40 PM
lol, nice :)

I wouldn't call them mistakes, though :D

snoogans460
11-20-2005, 09:08 PM
I should be picking up a 360 tommorrow myself. I know it's a lot dough, but I'm excited nonetheless.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-20-2005, 09:40 PM
Getting it at Xmas is just a better idea over-all, you will save atleast a 100 there through deals and reduced prices.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-20-2005, 10:52 PM
lol, nice :)

I wouldn't call them mistakes, though :D

It'll be nice after all the holidays are over and there isn't so much damn work.

snoogans460
11-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Hmm? I'm not sure the 360 itself will be reduced - at least for 6-8 months. Games on the other hand, most definitely. The system will be a good $400 bucks for a while.

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-21-2005, 08:08 AM
Getting it at Xmas is just a better idea over-all, you will save atleast a 100 there through deals and reduced prices.

Do you realize that most companies capitalize on that thought process.
Actually they gouge you during x-mas man.They force bundle deals you dont want and crap like that.See X-mas is the only time of year where the cousumer is at an extreme disadvantage in certain situations.

I'll give an example:
When I worked for EB games, every xmas the systems start to seel out no matter what.Everyone wants a PS2 or whatever for Xmas.

So when it gets to around November, they start the gouging.

They'll say "well this is the only place they're gonna get a PS2, so F 'em"

So then your mommy walks in to get a PS2 for Jimmy.

"hey we just need a PS2 system, we already got all the games were gonna need"

"too bad lady ,you gotta buy all this senseless crap"
why I dont need it?

"Cause thats how it is"

Lady "well what do I get"

"well you get a bunch of extra useless cords, uh a 45 ft ethernet cable,memory card, and a copy of Rachet and Clank"

"how much???"

"Oh $299" (with PS2 costing $199 at wal mart)

AHHHHHHH

"what if i dont want ratchet and Clank??"

"too bad"



Just trying to open some eyes out there.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-21-2005, 08:15 AM
That might be how it is in America, but not in Britain. When I got my x-box, it had good deals ( Splinter Cell + Halo) and the xbox, which at the time was 150 quid, and the rest was as standard, and wasnt paying for any useless cables, crappy games, or anything.

Im guessing the package deal here will be X360 non-core system + PDZ+DOA4 = to 250-300quid.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-21-2005, 08:34 AM
Getting it at Xmas is just a better idea over-all, you will save atleast a 100 there through deals and reduced prices.

Do you realize that most companies capitalize on that thought process.
Actually they gouge you during x-mas man.They force bundle deals you dont want and crap like that.See X-mas is the only time of year where the cousumer is at an extreme disadvantage in certain situations.

I'll give an example:
When I worked for EB games, every xmas the systems start to seel out no matter what.Everyone wants a PS2 or whatever for Xmas.

So when it gets to around November, they start the gouging.

They'll say "well this is the only place they're gonna get a PS2, so F 'em"

So then your mommy walks in to get a PS2 for Jimmy.

"hey we just need a PS2 system, we already got all the games were gonna need"

"too bad lady ,you gotta buy all this senseless crap"
why I dont need it?

"Cause thats how it is"

Lady "well what do I get"

"well you get a bunch of extra useless cords, uh a 45 ft ethernet cable,memory card, and a copy of Rachet and Clank"

"how much???"

"Oh $299" (with PS2 costing $199 at wal mart)

AHHHHHHH

"what if i dont want ratchet and Clank??"

"too bad"



Just trying to open some eyes out there.


My father was telling me the same thing the other night. But he said each store has consoles only to sell if you put up enough fuss. But they're suppose to push the bundles. Atleast at his store that's the rules they were given.

legacy-Mesoian
11-21-2005, 05:57 PM
Anyone actually have their x360 yet? Maybe other games will just...work.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-22-2005, 04:00 PM
I have my 360 but I haven't tried any of the XBOX 1 games on it. Only one I have that made the BC list is Fable TLC. An trust me you don't know how bad I want to slap UC2 in my 360 and get my frag on right now.

legacy-Mesoian
11-22-2005, 04:21 PM
Have you...tried to yet?

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-22-2005, 04:45 PM
No i'm being nice enough to let my roomie's kid play it right now. I'll try it in about 15-20 minutes tho.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-22-2005, 05:53 PM
Somone better tell me PDZ is good and they better do it QUICK!

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Well I put UC2 in my 360 and it says this XBOX 1 game isn't supported to run on the 360 and to check back for updates.

snoogans460
11-22-2005, 08:58 PM
Got the same message here.[face_cry]

legacy-R1DDLED
11-23-2005, 04:10 AM
Try the Official Xbox Forums, people are sorta' dissapointed with the movement, how slow it is, and no jump.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-23-2005, 04:26 AM
No jumping was to be expected really.

Maintaining the older PDark feel, and anyone who doesnt know why jumping is not in the game should be shot, for not playing any good games in there life.

legacy-Tug_Soldi3r
11-23-2005, 05:49 AM
why aint there jump? i am used to just jumping games, this game should be good though. if i remember the only game that didnt use jump that was good was Goldeneye (didnt play PD) i think anyway [face_doh!]

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-23-2005, 07:41 AM
I think there are jet packs and crap.

legacy-KriKKe
11-23-2005, 07:54 AM
there is no crap

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-24-2005, 07:19 AM
I guess I'll wait and see for PDZ, don't got my 360 yet (anyone heard about Black Friday releasing more 360's to the public rumor?). But if people say it's slower than it used to be, I say THANK GOD. Me and my friends used to play that game only on slow-mo mode in multiplayer because it was just too fast for the system. Especially when playing with bots!

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-24-2005, 08:05 AM
There isnt any jumping because thats Rare's trademark, making brilliant games without a jump function ( Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, and now Perfect Dark Zero) 1 of those being the most innovative games ever apart from Half-Life, and another being the most complete game ever.

Rare kick-ass, And I hope they carried that kickazzness onto PDZ.

legacy-ShredPrince2
11-24-2005, 08:43 AM
I never played the original PD, but freakin Goldeneye man...oh lord...those where the dayz.

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-24-2005, 08:47 AM
Yer Golden Eye was THE Game. ****ing brilliant.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-24-2005, 11:10 AM
I guess I'll wait and see for PDZ, don't got my 360 yet (anyone heard about Black Friday releasing more 360's to the public rumor?). But if people say it's slower than it used to be, I say THANK GOD. Me and my friends used to play that game only on slow-mo mode in multiplayer because it was just too fast for the system. Especially when playing with bots!

Yes I've heard BestBuy is suppose to have some more on Black Friday.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-24-2005, 01:02 PM
I guess I'll wait and see for PDZ, don't got my 360 yet (anyone heard about Black Friday releasing more 360's to the public rumor?). But if people say it's slower than it used to be, I say THANK GOD. Me and my friends used to play that game only on slow-mo mode in multiplayer because it was just too fast for the system. Especially when playing with bots!

Yes I've heard BestBuy is suppose to have some more on Black Friday.

Did you get it from xbox.com forums per chance like I did?

I dunno, it's iffy...

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-24-2005, 11:45 PM
No I got it from my father who is a Store Manager at BestBuy.

snoogans460
11-24-2005, 11:53 PM
I never played the original PD, but freakin Goldeneye man...oh lord...those where the dayz.

My thoughts exactly.[face_applause]

legacy-H3ll_5punk
11-25-2005, 02:32 AM
If you havnt played the Origonal PD though, you've still missed another big part of gaming history.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-25-2005, 06:53 PM
According to XBOX.com they want to hear from us what games we would like to see bc for the 360. So just give them a email telling them we want UC2 to be made BC at backcomp@microsoft.com.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-25-2005, 07:21 PM
Woh for serious? Sweet! If that's true, you all better start spamming them >:)

EDIT: Actually...could you link the forum post? I can't seem to find them actually asking for it...

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
11-25-2005, 09:20 PM
Here is the link to the interview asking for our feedback and the part saying so.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilityqa.htm

Xbox.com: What if I put in a game that isn't backward compatible?

Todd: I want to clarify—if a game isn’t on the list at Xbox.com/Games, it won’t run on your Xbox 360 console. Putting in a game that’s not on the list will give you a message saying that the game is not currently supported on Xbox 360 and point you to Xbox.com/Games for more information.

We’re working hard to determine the next batch of backward compatible titles, and would love to get feedback directly from gamers as well. We’ll have a place on Xbox.com where gamers can tell us their thoughts as we get closer to launch.

legacy-Netsurfer733
11-26-2005, 05:42 PM
Good enough for me! (even though the link doesn't work)

Sending request now ;)

joeGraf
01-09-2006, 03:43 AM
I just heard back that UC2 compatibility is forthcoming. I don't know a timeframe, but at least MS considers it a high priority.

legacy-ShredPrince2
01-09-2006, 04:06 AM
Sweet....is it possible the game will perform better???

joeGraf
01-09-2006, 04:11 AM
No idea. I really don't know how much of the 360 is consumed by emulation. It's certainly possible. The graphics hardware is so much more powerful that you are less likely to run into GPU limitations, but I don't know if that will translate into any improved performance since they are completely different GPUs and the emulation layer may consume some of the performance.

legacy-ShredPrince2
01-09-2006, 05:27 AM
Ok remeber whe the game was all High res in early phases??
OR like in the UDN UE2x page screens.

Would it maybe look like that now???

joeGraf
01-09-2006, 05:55 AM
It's not like new textures are going to be available. Those are all the same. The game supports 480p, which is what it will output. The 360 may convert that up, but underneath that will still be the same resolution you have now.

legacy-fenix1729
01-09-2006, 06:00 AM
No idea. I really don't know how much of the 360 is consumed by emulation. It's certainly possible. The graphics hardware is so much more powerful that you are less likely to run into GPU limitations, but I don't know if that will translate into any improved performance since they are completely different GPUs and the emulation layer may consume some of the performance.

U guys should make Unreal Championship 3 for xbox360.

joeGraf
01-09-2006, 06:09 AM
Yeah. That would be a fun game to make.

legacy-onenation
01-09-2006, 06:45 AM
This is certainly one of the best topics i have read in a long time in these forums. All of them should be this good. I was hoping that thi game would work with 360 so I could get rid of my first xbox. but I guess not. It.s to late to cry over it now.

legacy-Acid_2_140bpm
01-09-2006, 06:48 AM
Nothing is set in stone yet, so don't jump to conclusions....MS has yet to release the next list of BC games.

snoogans460
01-09-2006, 07:54 AM
Whew, that is great news and will hopefully happen real soon. I'd love to approach UC2 from a fresh start once again and bring back those feelings of why this game remains one of my favorites of all time. If nothing else, an extra layer of graphical polish provided by the 360 upconverting to 720p and 1080i would be all worth it. This info is much-appreciated!

legacy-ShredPrince2
01-09-2006, 01:27 PM
Sounds Like UC3 may be a legitamate possibility.

snoogans460
01-09-2006, 02:02 PM
Sounds Like UC3 may be a legitamate possibility.

If so, I'm going to throw a party when the news hits.[face_monkey]

legacy-NecrisFlood
01-09-2006, 02:07 PM
whoah...this is good news. All hope isn't lost after all. This means that my purchase of x360 has now become inevitable.

legacy-ra1n
01-09-2006, 08:42 PM
UC3 better not be a soap opera

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
Dear god let them patch it soon. I'm tired of going from living room to bedroom just to play UC2. Besides I wanna be able to sell my XBOX to help pay for the batch of games coming out between Feb and March for 360.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
01-09-2006, 09:50 PM
I just heard back that UC2 compatibility is forthcoming. I don't know a timeframe, but at least MS considers it a high priority.

Question. In all of the things MS asked you for to be able to run UC2 on 360 was another patch included to help with the glitch outs and freezing up? If not what's the % chance to see another patch?

legacy-onenation
01-10-2006, 04:04 AM
No jumping was to be expected really.

Maintaining the older PDark feel, and anyone who doesnt know why jumping is not in the game should be shot, for not playing any good games in there life.

I love it!!! No jumping *****es to run form me. There is nothing but death. How good can it get. HA HA HA !!! to all jumping *****es.

joeGraf
01-11-2006, 06:44 AM
MS hasn't yet asked us to change anything for BC to work.

As for another patch, I can't comment on the likely hood of another one. I am a drone, not the queen (king really) bee.

BTW, I didn't mean to imply that UC3 was in the works. All I said was that it would be fun to work on UC3. We only have two games in the works: Gears and UT.

legacy-fenix1729
01-11-2006, 08:36 AM
If they ever make UC3, I hope they leave as it is, with melee, shield, adrenaline, just to add new characters, new adrenaline, maps, weapons and improve it.

legacy-ShredPrince2
01-11-2006, 10:28 AM
Yeah just take out the noob friendly stuuf....The games still complicated...so....You get my point.

legacy-BlackKnightOfH8
01-19-2006, 03:21 PM
So anyword on that update for UC to finally become BC?

legacy-Xbox360
01-19-2006, 04:24 PM
Epic makes good engines and has flawless game concepts, but they just suck at making console games. Hopefully Gears of War will prove me wrong. [face_happy]

joeGraf
01-20-2006, 04:40 AM
There has been no new information from MS on it. Sorry.

legacy-onenation
01-24-2006, 04:33 AM
^^ Figures. How about any word on UC3?

legacy-Tricky_jBi
01-24-2006, 06:25 AM
Its no surprise that UC and UC2 are not backwards compatible, i love the games but lets face it. They have so many glitches that they barely run on xbox let alone xbox360

joeGraf
01-24-2006, 06:32 AM
No change in any word on UC3. I can't imagine there would be before both Gears and UT ship, since they consume all of our people resources (and then some).

legacy-SunTzu2
01-25-2006, 03:32 AM
I never played the original PD, but freakin Goldeneye man...oh lord...those where the dayz.

My thoughts exactly.[face_applause]

Those sure were the dayz.

legacy-HBDragon
01-25-2006, 05:00 AM
Hay JoeGraf why don’t Epic make a one last update on UC2?

And if they do will it be big??

Thanks

legacy-Acid_2_140bpm
01-25-2006, 05:18 AM
Fat chance...Joe Graf mentioned that Epic's priorities are working on Unreal Tournament & Gears of War.

joeGraf
01-25-2006, 06:08 AM
As all the other times when asked about a patch, "I am just a worker bee; I don't make the decisions"

legacy-legend
01-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Well joe person iam going to try and sya this as nice as I can. I have been playing this game since it came out and...you and all the devs know that your players have been telling you what's rong yet nothing has happined. Now why would you know all this info on how to make the game great yet not make us happy? I understand you have no clue on this but i think you would know why you haven't or something like that.

legacy-blackm0n
01-25-2006, 02:05 PM
onwed!!... jk i heart you joe graf!

legacy-legend
01-25-2006, 02:13 PM
[face_beatup]Ow![face_beatup]

joeGraf
01-27-2006, 03:34 AM
>owned!!!

haha

We're not ignoring you. We do hear the comments about the game.

legacy-legend
01-27-2006, 03:44 AM
Well for saying something back thank you man and I'am happy to hear your not just being jerks.[face_applause]

I know you may not know i wana ask any way do you have any clue why this game was so buggy and laggy and you guys never did any thing about it?

(Not trying to sound like a jerk)

legacy-blackm0n
01-27-2006, 03:53 AM
^^^ what a jerk

legacy-legend
01-27-2006, 03:57 AM
Don't be mean.[face_talk_hand]