Weaponless transport - Pelican

[legacy-Agent Scully]

First of all I would like to give a huge thanks to Major A. Payne for modeling this magnificent bird. Current status is trying to get the jet exaust to work right and then bots to use it. Poly count is 2750.

Here are some teaser shots in the meantime :)

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Pelican1.jpg

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Pelican2.jpg

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Pelican3.jpg

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Pelican4.jpg

[Xabora]

He Modeled it?

I know this is from Halo... but with that line your giving a bad impression...

Anywho... nice code.

[legacy-Shuri]

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Pelican4.jpg

Is that being held up entirely by the ramp?

Looking good otherwise.

[legacy-INSTAGIBBLER]

This would be great on a Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge map!!!

[legacy-LorinUT]

.................................. THAT IS AMAZING!!!! VERY NICE WORK!!! When can we get it?

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Shuri
Is that being held up entirely by the ramp?

Looking good otherwise.

Well I made the collision box underneath it like that so eventually it will have a ramp underneath it in a custom map I will make in the future.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by LorinUT
.................................. THAT IS AMAZING!!!! VERY NICE WORK!!! When can we get it?

Thanks :up:

Beta as soon as I get someone to help me figure out why my jet fuel exaust fumes dont show up :confused:

[PointlesS]

looks incredible...I'd love to use it in the opening into for my assault map

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by PointlesS
looks incredible...I'd love to use it in the opening into for my assault map

PM me and I'm sure we can arrange something.

[legacy-The BeasT]

this is gonna kick ass with the up coming Halo Mod... http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Halo&Number=224600&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=45
check it out, and help if ya can, and interests you.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by The BeasT
this is gonna kick ass with the up coming Halo Mod... http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Halo&Number=224600&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=45
check it out, and help if ya can, and interests you.

Hmm.... looks like too much contraversy in that thread.

[legacy-Elroy-EL-1327]

awesome

[legacy-Desaparecido]

i like your ability to rip models from halo and call them someone elses...:bulb:

[legacy-{DB}Shadow]

Originally posted by Desaparecido
i like your ability to rip models from halo and call them someone elses...:bulb:

How about this, Die. Just go kill yourself. No offense Scully, but the Halo version of that looks totally different. This is simply similar. If anyone made anything from another game, you would say that they ripped it. So how about you grow up, get an IQ higher than 5, and actually appreciate something.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by {DB}Shadow
How about this, Die. Just go kill yourself. No offense Scully, but the Halo version of that looks totally different. This is simply similar. If anyone made anything from another game, you would say that they ripped it. So how about you grow up, get an IQ higher than 5, and actually appreciate something.

Thanks for your support. The halo version is 10k polies which is way too much for UT so I had a friend model a new low poly one that looks just as good. And yes Desaparecido, I know you're a skill club forum loser and have no life..... but that doesnt mean you have to pick on me like a bully all the time :rolleyes:

[Xabora]

Ya... SilverWulf/Antioch...

your making yourslef look really good right now.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Xabora
Ya... SilverWulf/Antioch...

your making yourslef look really good right now.

I sure am :D

[Xabora]

You don't know sarcasm if it hit you in the face.


Pelican with a reduced/trimmed polycount.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Xabora
You don't know sarcasm if it hit you in the face.


Pelican with a reduced/trimmed polycount.

Uh... that's what the thread title says it is.... Pelican weaponless transport :weird:

And you dont know a thread title if it hit you in the face, m0tard :o

[Xabora]

Sad... have to copy off of everyone else...
can't come up with anything new...


Tsk Tsk... too bad you got kicked from torlan.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Xabora
Sad... have to copy off of everyone else...
can't come up with anything new...


Tsk Tsk... too bad you got kicked from torlan.

Oh wait... just like you and copying bloodgulch? Boy talk about not coming up with anything new! Moron. :rolleyes:

and FYI I didnt get kicked from torlan, I resigned :rolleyes:

[Xabora]

Ermm ya... notice how it was never released.
And I also mentitoned that it was the orignal Mesh.


But... your starting to bore me... not pulling anything new.
Just the same old crap.

So when you get a new technique at foruming.
Send me an e-mail at x@mailinator.com

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Xabora
Ermm ya... notice how it was never released.
And I also mentitoned that it was the orignal Mesh.


But... your starting to bore me... not pulling anything new.
Just the same old crap.

So when you get a new technique at foruming.
Send me an e-mail at x@mailinator.com

I dont know about the rest of you guys but all I hear is "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah "

[legacy-B1tchChicken]

Good evening, Antioch! I hope you're doing rather well this fine evening.

For those of you who're not aware, the creator of this thread is also known as:

Jade(put number here) ~ Packet �o�� ~ Omicron ~ Feli�ia ~ WizKid25 ~ MaDCaT75 ~ Kristina ~ �ilverWolf ~

Cultivator ~ -=WhiteWulf=- Juanie ~ THEBBQSPECIAL ~ Scotty][Hotty ect. ~

*cue ominous music*

Here is his story:

Part One


The History

{SQ4}Antio�h registered at the Tactical-Ops forum a few years ago, where he was known as

Kristina23. He also at times went by the name of Jade. There, he pretended to be a female,

often flirting with the other forum members, and in at least one known case he tried to lure

some of the younger males there into having cyber-sex with him. While at this forum, he also

tried to pass off a picture of a girl he found on the internet as himself, until she found

out about it and posted there to complain. Changing names and tactics, he next posted that

his girlfriend had recently been killed in a car accident in an attempt to garner sympathy

from many of the angry members there. For this and several other reasons, he was banned from

Tactical-Ops.

In early 2002, he moved onto the INA (now Atari) UT2003 General Discussion forums. At that

forum, he went by the name Packet �o��, and once again passed himself off as a female.

Pretending also to be a mapper, he asked some of the other mappers on this forum for help

with his maps. Unfortunately, these later were revealed to be stolen. After being caught for

stealing DM-Myhouse, he was ridiculed on the INA/Atari forums, so he asked the forum

moderator to change his name to -=WhiteWulf=-.

At this point, he gave up pretending to be a female, but again posted the story of a dead

girlfriend, although this time there were a few variations in the story... such as the

alleged girlfriends name, and the time when the accident occurred.

The Pattern

One of the things that made the members of these forums so upset, was that he repeatedly

passed off others work as his own. Aside from maps, there are many cases were he would post

artwork, either for a signature or avatar, and then boast about how well it had turned out.

Unfortunately, it usually turned out that he had just stolen it. Someone would eventually

post the original artwork from the original website or forum. After being caught by some

members of the forum, he would start spamming threads with 'nobody loves me', or 'I am a

loser' to gain sympathy from newer members of the forum, or those that were unaware of his

past. This would occur on an almost weekly basis.

Sometimes to try and hide his lies , he would delete the thread (which you can do if you

were the one that created it) and then later deny he had ever posted it. If he did not

create the thread however, he could only later delete his post in it, hoping no one would

notice. This, -=WhiteWulf=- did on a regular basis, as only forum moderators can close or

move other members threads.


The Opportunity

The INA/Atari forums were popular, but one of the downsides was that posting off-topic [OT]

was not allowed. In early 2003, one of it's members, Hellcat2k3 started up the 'Hellcat

Forums', a place where the other members he had become friends with at INA/Atari could go

and safely post OT. Many of these INA/Atari members moved over to this new forum, and it

began to grow in popularity. Trying to get a fresh start, -=WhiteWulf=-, who had recently

changed his name again, now to {SQ4}Antio�h, signed on at Hellcats. In May 2003, when the

Hellcat's forum started reaching the bandwidth limit, Hellcat switched to a new server, and

The Skill Club was born.

It was at this time that {SQ4}Antio�h offered to donate a vBulletin license for the new

forum. This gave the Skill Club many added features, and a new look. In exchange for this,

{SQ4}Antioch asked to be a forum moderator. Hellcat, who was unaware of his past, and simply

trusting in nature, accepted this offer.

Some people who knew about {SQ4}Antioch�s past and complained about it were either forced to

leave because of his moderator powers, or they just became fed up and left in disgust. When

anyone else�s thread questioned {SQ4}Antioch�s past, or caught him claiming credit for

stolen work, he would close the thread, so that it would be pushed off the first page and

out of sight. Other times he would hide these threads by moving them to a quieter part of

the forum. He would also send a personal message (PM) to members, warning them that he was

going to ban them. This abuse of moderator powers finally resulted in a first removal from

his moderator's position.

[legacy-B1tchChicken]

Part Two



The Tactics

After keeping out of trouble for a few weeks, Hellcat decided to give him another chance.

This time though, it was thought best if it was kept a secret, as some members were bound to

complain if they knew. {SQ4}Antio�h chose the name MaDCaT75, but continued to also post

under {SQ4}Antio�h. Soon, threads that caught him in a lie would be closed for no, or little

reason. {SQ4}Antio�h would post in one of these threads that it should be closed. He would

then log on as MaDCaT75, who (of course) would agree, and proceeded to close the thread.

One of the features of the Skill Club is the rate system. If you see a post you like, you

can open the rate box and award the person who made a good post a point. These points were

used in the forum 'store' where you could by such things as glowing, or custom titles. You

can't however, rate yourself to give yourself a point. As {SQ4}Antio�h had two accounts

though, he was able to log on as the moderator MaDCaT75, and then start rating his

{SQ4}Antio�h posts.

A short time later, a bug was discovered in the system, where you could rate the same post

multiple times, and he used this to its fullest advantage. You can also in the rate box

disapprove of someone�s post, and one of their points is taken away. Any members that

crossed {SQ4}Antio�h would find their hard earned point count go down to zero.

After people began to question, and suspect MaDCaT75 was really {SQ4}Antio�h, he then

switched his moderator account name to Tyrael. However, he continued to use these tactics to

give himself points, take others away, and close or move threads not to his liking.

The Tyrael account really just served as a usefull way to close threads that caught him in

his lies. For example, when {SQ4}Antio�h posted pictures from a map called CTF-Conquest,

claiming it was his own creation... once again people found out it was just another stolen

map. Those people who exposed his lies soon got a PM from his Tyrael alias, threatening them

with immediate banishment.


The Ban

His moderator powers finally came to an end when members started posting threads about

{SQ4}Antio�h abusing the point system, and Tyrael closing or moving threads. In one of

these, his secret identity was revealed , forcing Hellcat to post a thread asking for other

members opinions, and proof of {SQ4}Antio�h/Tyraels behavior. By the end of that day, the

Tyrael account was closed, and {SQ4}Antio�h was left with the single account, with no chance

of becoming a moderator again.

Less than a week later, after continually spamming threads about how he was a victim, and

that he donated the vb license, and again posting about the dead girlfriend... He even

confessed that he was all these identities and again played the victim. He even let slip

that he had given Hellcats vb license to others. This made the Hellcat license invalid, and

illegal. This resulted in a poll, asking the members of Skill Club if he should be banned.

Once Hellcat found out about the vb license, he felt rightfully betrayed... {SQ4}Antio�h was

finally banned.

{SQ4}Antio�h reacted to this by changing his ISP, and then returned to flame under a new

name. He also withdrew the (now invalid) vBulletin license, and reported it to vb as a

pirating site. Fortunately a member stepped in and donated the money for a real license.

These days, {SQ4}Antio�h badmouths the Skill Club, and all the other forums he has been

banned from, in the few forums left for him to go. Hopefully, those forum administrators can

be warned in time, before much damage is done.


How he got caught

One of the reasons he was continually caught in his lies is simply because there are a lot

of people who log onto forums, and would recognize these stolen artworks or maps. Also,

anytime you post a picture of something on a forum, you have to have it hosted on a server

somewhere in order for it to be viewed. If you right click a picture in your web browser and

select 'Properties', you will see the URL of the site it is hosted at. In the case of using

that girls picture, he simply linked directly to her site, making it easy for someone to

visit her site and inform her what was going on. At other times, he would host the pictures

on his own site, such as his signature. This made it easy to track him each time he changed

his member name. Although he would insist he had nothing to do with that other identity

(though they shared the same hosted URL) he coincidently also had a dead girlfriend.

Chat programs such as ICQ and IM also designate you a unique number, which can be seen in

the log files. His ID number remained the same in these chat programs while using the names

Kristina23, Jade, Packet �o��, -=WhiteWulf=- and {SQ4}Antio�h. Here, he would complain about

the forums to other members, or in some cases even boast about what he had done there. He

also would use the forum's Private Message (PM) system to complain to other members. These

of course, are easy to save and archive, as are taking screenshots of threads you suspect

will be deleted, and later denied.


Why keep track of all this?

Tactical Ops, Tournament.com (T-com), INA/Atari, d3fx, and Hellcat's Skill Club are by no

means the only forums he has been banned from. Forum moderators and administrators have

found that this one person alone continually drives other members away, and keeps others

from joining. Not only is the forums reputation tarnished everywhere he goes, but while he

is there he spams the boards with insults, one smiley replies, non stop 'pity me' posts, and

worst of all... taking credit for peoples hard work and effort. Truly, a forum's worst

nightmare.


Written and compiled by omgOMGuybrush & Pitboy

[legacy-MrWotsit]

Ladies, SHUT THE HELL UP.

Don't be such little girls, don't say all this pathetic sad 6-year-old-arguing-in-the-sandpit rubbish about how "oooooo look at me, I'm so much cooler, come and give me an email when you think you can beat my invincible style"

How about you just leave it so we can talk about this vehicle and get on with things.

I think it looks cool by the way, but, as with all vehicles, when/how will it be used? On one custom map? On that assault map as well?
That's what's important.

[legacy-nikoS]

If that's true thn just Wow. You gotta be pretty retarded to do that sorta thing on forums and expect to get away with it.

But back on topic the model does look a little low-poly, how many are in it? You should push towards the amount that are in the leviathan for something that size.

[legacy-ZeroHour]

Holy ****. Plz release it !!!!!!!!!!

[musilowski]

These forums are becoming a daycare place IMO... :sour:

[legacy-havoc]

will it have a vehical carrying point on the back tail. like in halo were the warthog hangs?

[legacy-LorinUT]

I've been looking for that map!! I've looked under www.Mapraider.com but nothing! Can anyone direct me to the link to get it?

[legacy-Icedude]

That map is ONS-Dria, it comes with the game ¬_¬

Bringing this thread back on-topic, has there been any progress since the thread was posted?

Edit: \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ What's so funny about me informing a n00b? \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

[legacy-ZeroHour]

Originally posted by LorinUT
I've been looking for that map!! I've looked under www.Mapraider.com but nothing! Can anyone direct me to the link to get it?

LMAO


Originally posted by Icedude
That map is ONS-Dria, it comes with the game ¬_¬

Bringing this thread back on-topic, has there been any progress since the thread was posted?

ROFLMAO

[legacy-DaJMasta]

looks cool, but its sad that something that big cant defend itself...

Anyways how did u code people being carried?
Did u use passenger weapon pawns with no weapon, or like just an open karma box?

[legacy-Major Lee High]

Originally posted by Format Life:
These forums are becoming a daycare place IMO... :sour:

INA/Atari has always been a meeting place for ignorant retarded fairys. Most the time its more fun to come here and read dip****s posts and flame them than it is to actually play ut...

Its too bad that alot of good releases and modding info gets lost in it all.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by DaJMasta
looks cool, but its sad that something that big cant defend itself...

Anyways how did u code people being carried?
Did u use passenger weapon pawns with no weapon, or like just an open karma box?

I built collision boxes around it so people can stand inside it and fire their own weapons..... even drive their scorpion inside :D

[legacy-Monkey_Reloaded]

the chair textures are upsidedown....
:noob:

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Everyone do this thread a favor and report B1tchChicken's post:


http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/report.php?s=&postid=5287755

[legacy-S|thSnak3]

Im sorry B1tchChicken or wtvr, you have no idea who you are talking about

Peace, and stop flaming every thread she stars k? its kinda irritating to everyone. Get a life and dont spread ur false crap everywhere

--------------

Bother me and ill show you the interesting sight of a Barrett .50BMG Lite Fifty's muzzle.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by S|thSnak3
Im sorry B1tchChicken or wtvr, you have no idea who you are talking about

Peace, and stop flaming every thread she stars k? its kinda irritating to everyone. Get a life and dont spread ur false crap everywhere

--------------

Bother me and ill show you the interesting sight of a Barrett .50BMG Lite Fifty's muzzle.

Amen brotha :up:

[Nemephosis]

Originally posted by S|thSnak3
Im sorry B1tchChicken or wtvr, you have no idea who you are talking about

Peace, and stop flaming every thread she stars k? its kinda irritating to everyone. Get a life and dont spread ur false crap everywhere

Are you kidding me? You're the one with no idea. Does this (http://forum.skill-club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3362&highlight=Antioch) look like "no idea" to you? Do your research or you come off looking stupid like you just did.

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Thank you so much :) this gonna be badass :up:

[legacy-LorinUT]

About the map I cant find, It's DM-Myhouse.

[legacy-S|thSnak3]

ive read almost all posts made by her...all it takes is a google search...its just that your mistaken at the core of ur info...wtvr, im gonna go back to modeling this battlecruiser.

And i wrote that post specifically not to insult you or b1tchchiken or anyone with the same idea... i didnt say you were stupid or dumb or wtvr, and your coming up like u effin own the place..
If anything needs to be 'researched' its you and ur tendancy to piss everyone off

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
Everyone do this thread a favor and report B1tchChicken's post:


http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/report.php?s=&postid=5287755
Report it, asking that it be placed in a sticky thread of its own!

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Mr Evil
Report it, asking that it be placed in a sticky thread of its own!

Die please.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Flaaaaaames

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/Flames.jpg

[legacy-OMGWTFANTIOCH]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
Die please.

You first Pedo.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by OMGWTFANTIOCH
You first Pedo.

I think you mean yourself :o

[legacy-OMGWTFANTIOCH]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
I think you mean yourself :o

Clever comeback. :haha:

[legacy-Railgunner]

:bulb:

Such silly crap going on in a .....beta releases forum?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! *DIES*

It's almost like Xan.
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by OMGWTFANTIOCH
Clever comeback. :haha:

Thanks ;)

[Nemephosis]

I'm shocked. This thread hasn't been closed yet? You waiting for something?

So we can't carry on a civilized discussion (seems you're right about that) and yet you keep coming back. You're gonna have to explain this cause I just don't get it.

[legacy-OMGWTFANTIOCH]

Originally posted by Nemephosis
I'm shocked. This thread hasn't been closed yet?


Lemme see if I can help.

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=343245

http://web2.gopostal.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=6051

[legacy-[SF]Stronin]

Lol i don't see what so bad if this looks similar to halos model, i mean if i was the guy who came up with the original halo model i'd consider it a compliment ya knwo the old saying " Imitation is the senserest form of flattery"
Need i say more? I think not keep up the work dude i love to see this model in a hectic ONS battle talk about turning the tide :D :up:

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by [SF]Stronin
Lol i don't see what so bad if this looks similar to halos model, i mean if i was the guy who came up with the original halo model i'd consider it a compliment ya knwo the old saying " Imitation is the senserest form of flattery"
Need i say more? I think not keep up the work dude i love to see this model in a hectic ONS battle talk about turning the tide :D :up:

Thanks :up:

[legacy-nikoS]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
Die please.
You must pay respekt to Mr. Evil. The same respekt you would show Angel Mapper or the hallowed CliffyB Himself.

[legacy-B1tchChicken]

Respect? He once tried to pose as Angelmapper. :mad: :down:

[legacy-nikoS]

Originally posted by B1tchChicken
Respect? He once tried to pose as Angelmapper. :mad: :down:

Ooooh now he's crossed the line.

A bit lame tho, since Angel Mapper would kind of find out about it pretty easily.

God mother, someone is posting your maps as theirs.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

I think the "special bus" just crashed into the internet :bulb:

[legacy-{DB}Shadow]

Beta anytime soon?

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by {DB}Shadow
Beta anytime soon?

Yes... but only the nice people get a beta :D

[legacy-FireCrack]

Originally posted by [SF]Stronin
Lol i don't see what so bad if this looks similar to halos model, i mean if i was the guy who came up with the original halo model i'd consider it a compliment ya knwo the old saying " Imitation is the senserest form of flattery"
Need i say more? I think not keep up the work dude i love to see this model in a hectic ONS battle talk about turning the tide :D :up:

it isn't similar to halo's model, it IS halo's model, ripped from the game.

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
Yes... but only the nice people get a beta :D

I'd love to give it a go :)

pm me :)

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by FireCrack
it isn't similar to halo's model, it IS halo's model, ripped from the game.

Wrong dude. Halo's model is 9k polies. This is 3k polies.... stop being a troll. :o


I'd love to give it a go

Ok :D

[musilowski]

Can I test it?

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Format Life:
Can I test it?

PM me with any contact info you have :)

[legacy-Kaw-G]

WOULD EVERYONE JUST, SHUT THE **** UP, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT'S RELATED TO THIS THREAD OR THE CONTENT OF THIS THREAD ?!?!? FOR ****S S... *Head explodes in anger of having to say this knowing that it will go in one ear and out of the other in the same second*

[legacy-nikoS]

Originally posted by Kaw-G
WOULD EVERYONE JUST, SHUT THE **** UP, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT'S RELATED TO THIS THREAD OR THE CONTENT OF THIS THREAD ?!?!? FOR ****S S... *Head explodes in anger of having to say this knowing that it will go in one ear and out of the other in the same second*

err... what was that? :haha:

Anyway back on topic. Agent Scully, if it's yours then good job, try and change the collision though.

[legacy-Major A Payne]

I think its time I put a voice to this thread here. Bit of storytime for the non believing kiddies that are here:

The original Halo version of the pelican is aprox. 9900 polys (I should know considering that the original was provided to me along with the associated texture files), which in my own opinion (and no matter what anyone here states), is just far to high to be practical for UT2004 until the hardware is there to support the game at full spec. With this in mind I took the original and rebuilt is FROM SCRATCH using the original as a base to work from, so whilst this isn't the original, it is as close as it can be made. The texturing was done using the original texture set from the original model, but the model is my own rebuild. Also this versions poly count is a more palitable aproximate of 3000 polys.

Isn't amazing how many people jump on the bandwagon and start sprouting their **** when they don't know the full story. Also I've noticed how others seem to be of the opinion that they can make theirs known when it comes to these "other game" models being used. Its just a shame that there are a ton of hand held weapons which people don't complain about (seems to me its just a personal attack).

So anyone else want to act like a childish little brat. Man, it seems my 9 year old daughter has both more intelligence, and acts far more like an adult than certain people on this forum.

Oh and as for the pelican being unprotected, I did make the suggestion of adding a chaingun, or minigun.

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by Major A Payne
...With this in mind I took the original and rebuilt is FROM SCRATCH using the original as a base to work from...
Ok, that's better than just ripping off a model from another game without permission (assuming you are being truthful, which is not to be taken for granted given your association with Agent Scully).




Originally posted by Major A Payne
...The texturing was done using the original texture...
So you are only half using the original assets? The geometry is original but the texture isn't? Sort of contradicts the point you were trying to make.




Originally posted by Major A Payne
...Isn't amazing how many people jump on the bandwagon...
Look at previous posts by Agent Scully and his/her pseudonyms on this and other forums. There is no bandwagon to jump on, only the obvious truth that he/she likes to take the work of others and pass it of as his/her own.

[legacy-GlassBoy]

Looks promising and good. Might want to try retractable landing gear ;)

[legacy-Major A Payne]

Originally posted by Mr Evil
Ok, that's better than just ripping off a model from another game without permission (assuming you are being truthful, which is not to be taken for granted given your association with Agent Scully).

So you are only half using the original assets? The geometry is original but the texture isn't? Sort of contradicts the point you were trying to make.

Look at previous posts by Agent Scully and his/her pseudonyms on this and other forums. There is no bandwagon to jump on, only the obvious truth that he/she likes to take the work of others and pass it of as his/her own.

Do you know something, its people like you and your kin on this forum who are just there to piss other people off. So let me get this straight. You immediately assume that because I freelance my time out in the creation of a model that I also am lieing concerning its creation. Man you should really wake up and smell what your shovelling. It amazes me how all of a sudden I'm pronnounced as being associated with "Agent Scully". For your information, and I suggest you get you facts straight before you go condeming someone on something you know dick about, I do a hell of alot of modelling (probably far more than you realise), which includes a lot of other games.

As for my usage of the texture?? Do you work for bungie?? I think not, therefore your own point is more likely to be "pointless". Do you ask permission from Atari or the dev team of UT2004 for using their code?? thier weapons textures?? Do you ask permission before you release maps which have textures created originally by Atari?? Simple answer, is of course you don't. So will you be releasing your Weapons of Evil mutator with redifined and completely new weapons firing methods?? or do you plan to still rip of Ataris Ut2004 based weapons??

As for Agent Scully. I do not in any way partake in what has gone on in that past. I couldn't give a toss what he's previously done. Sheesh. Some of you should stop living in the past.

So please, Mr Evil. It would be appreciated if you kept your comments to yourself in future about things you think you know, which you obviously have no clue about concerning myself.

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by Major A Payne
Do you know something, its people like you and your kin on this forum who are just there to piss other people off. So let me get this straight. You immediately assume that because I freelance my time out in the creation of a model that I also am lieing concerning its creation. Man you should really wake up and smell what your shovelling. It amazes me how all of a sudden I'm pronnounced as being associated with "Agent Scully". For your information, and I suggest you get you facts straight before you go condeming someone on something you know dick about, I do a hell of alot of modelling (probably far more than you realise), which includes a lot of other games.

As for my usage of the texture?? Do you work for bungie?? I think not, therefore your own point is more likely to be "pointless". Do you ask permission from Atari or the dev team of UT2004 for using their code?? thier weapons textures?? Do you ask permission before you release maps which have textures created originally by Atari?? Simple answer, is of course you don't. So will you be releasing your Weapons of Evil mutator with redifined and completely new weapons firing methods?? or do you plan to still rip of Ataris Ut2004 based weapons??

As for Agent Scully. I do not in any way partake in what has gone on in that past. I couldn't give a toss what he's previously done. Sheesh. Some of you should stop living in the past.

So please, Mr Evil. It would be appreciated if you kept your comments to yourself in future about things you think you know, which you obviously have no clue about concerning myself.
I don't see anything that I have stated being factually incorrect. Some is my opinion and thus subjective of course, but I'm sure you can separate fact from opinion.

I don't need to ask permission to use assets from Unreal series games in my mods because permission is already given (read the EULA and many comments by the Epic staff on these forums that explicitly state we are allowed to use their content to make our mods). I am always very careful when I use something I did not create myself that either it is copyright free, or I have permission from the original author. I would not dream of using assets from another game without first contacting the creators of that game.

As for what Agent Scully has done in the past. It's far too much to simply be forgotten. I can never assume that he/she has turned over a new leaf without proof to that effect first. It's not just an isolated incident or two in the past, it seems that he/she has devoted his/her entire life to that sort of behaviour.

[legacy-Major A Payne]

Originally posted by Mr Evil
I don't see anything that I have stated being factually incorrect. Some is my opinion and thus subjective of course, but I'm sure you can separate fact from opinion.

I don't need to ask permission to use assets from Unreal series games in my mods because permission is already given (read the EULA and many comments by the Epic staff on these forums that explicitly state we are allowed to use their content to make our mods). I am always very careful when I use something I did not create myself that either it is copyright free, or I have permission from the original author. I would not dream of using assets from another game without first contacting the creators of that game.

As for what Agent Scully has done in the past. It's far too much to simply be forgotten. I can never assume that he/she has turned over a new leaf without proof to that effect first. It's not just an isolated incident or two in the past, it seems that he/she has devoted his/her entire life to that sort of behaviour.

My simple point is, don't necessarily assume you know me in any way shape or form. I was asked to perform a task. Once I've completed that task I do not condone what someone has, or hasn't done, no matter what they have done. See, this is the reason why I rarely touch FPS style games. People are very quick to judge a person from one simple act. Its judging like that which causes communities to die a slow death. Perhaps you should get to know a person before you do so in future.

Agains, as for Agent Scully. Yes I read those little replies and postings concerning the person, but as I've not seen the entire picture I'm not here to judge how this person has acted, may still act. I am here to help, but it seems that this isn't welcome so I'll be taking my custom elsewhere. Its no wonder I've never released a map I've done, after seeing some of the responses that are made here.

Actually Mr Evil. I'm wondering if I actually have seen you before somewhere (consdering your website states you've been to cardiff uni).

[legacy-Vash26]

Originally posted by Xabora
Sad... have to copy off of everyone else...
can't come up with anything new...


Tsk Tsk... too bad you got kicked from torlan.

Yea, too bad.

Though Torlan is asking permission to do there work, already asked bungie, now there asking the head of gearbox, I think ill just wait for there pelican. :D

[legacy-LorinUT]

....... Mmmmmmmm... Chaingun....

[legacy-[|]dessa]

The cargo bay could use a small gate that flips up and down, otherwise vehilces slide right out of it. We managed to fit three scorpions in the back :eek: unfortunatley they fell out one after another upon takeoff :cry:

[legacy-LorinUT]

Originally posted by [|]dessa
The cargo bay could use a small gate that flips up and down, otherwise vehilces slide right out of it. We managed to fit three scorpions in the back :eek: unfortunatley they fell out one after another upon takeoff :cry:

Lol You mean like...


*TAKEOFF*

"Uhh... sir we lost a scorpion."
"Eh?"
"There goes another one!"
"What?"
"And there goes the last one"

[legacy-CaTdAeMoN]

lolz teh funnay thread :up:

[legacy-Phantomdream]

Hm...If you ask me, the people who are trying to flame this antioch are just as gay as antioch him/her/itself. Maybe they made love and antioch forgot to take the pill or something? -Shrug-

Now seriously, if I get a link of a working version where on the website/readme it says HALULUJA! I will simply laugh at those stalkers for the rest of my life. If not, they win. We'll have to see.

[legacy-Pitboy]

Originally posted by B1tchChicken

The History

{SQ4}Antio�h registered at the Tactical-Ops forum a few years ago, where he was known as

*snip*
Tsk tsk B1tchChicken, you just ripped the contents of someone elses post. Frankly, I'm shocked! :p



I thought the ghost model was well done, and look forward to seeing more of his work. Cut the guy some slack, he's giving back to the community now. :up:

Very cool looking model, I'm more than happy to help with any testing.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

This thread makes baby jesus cry.

[legacy-FireCrack]

Ok i've done a bit more research, yeah it's not the pelican, sorry for jumping to conclusions. The pelican has rounded leading wingtips and a totaly different skin (black)

The halo pelican is also a bit chubbier and stouter.

Sorry for misunderstanding and jumping to conclusions.

[legacy-Pitboy]

How much damage does it take before you can knock it out of the sky, and any plans to give it that 'ghosting' feature of invisibility? That's a cool feature that kinda suits the look of this vehicle.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Pitboy
How much damage does it take before you can knock it out of the sky, and any plans to give it that 'ghosting' feature of invisibility? That's a cool feature that kinda suits the look of this vehicle.

It has 3000 HP which can take alot of abuse. I might give it that ghosting feature but not sure how to hide the players as well.

[legacy-Phantomdream]

(maybe my psot worked -^.^-)

3000 HP? and its got no weapons? Or do some passengers have weapons or can fire out?

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Originally posted by LorinUT
Lol You mean like...


*TAKEOFF*

"Uhh... sir we lost a scorpion."
"Eh?"
"There goes another one!"
"What?"
"And there goes the last one"

^_^ yeah, it was something like that... 'cept everyone was falling out with them, cause they were in them.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by Phantomdream
(maybe my psot worked -^.^-)

3000 HP? and its got no weapons? Or do some passengers have weapons or can fire out?

Passengers can fire own guns while in the pelican.

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
Passengers can fire own guns while in the pelican.

Miniguns out the back = fun ++

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by [|]dessa
Miniguns out the back = fun ++

Damn right :p


Edit: helloooo page 4

[The5thviruz]

I have yet to see a dropship that WORKS and looks good at the same time.
The other halo conversions that you have made were great, so I expect this will be just as good.

Oh and hurry up with the Warthog damnit!!:D

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Warthog is still being coded :p

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Originally posted by The5thviruz
I have yet to see a dropship that WORKS and looks good at the same time.
The other halo conversions that you have made were great, so I expect this will be just as good.

Oh and hurry up with the Warthog damnit!!:D

Your wait will certainly be worth it :up:


Scully, how big is the warthog going to be? Do you plan to hang it from the bottom (Silent Cartographer comes to mind) Or will it be intended for holding inside the dropship (which may look a bit odd)?

[Xabora]

If the passenger can fire... make the health 2750
and remove the cloaking.

But the Alt-Fire would make a nice Stop and Decent Function.

[legacy-{DB}Shadow]

Goddamn that thing is huge. Only problem with vehicles is that they fall out after takeoff. Also its turning is a little slow. Other than that it's awesome! Great work!

PS. Make the warthog regular. colors...and make sure there's a passenger seat ^_^.

[legacy-jeffmd]

Warthog is still being coded

don't you mean the puma?

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Yes yes the puma....

I'll try to add a barrier to help vehicles from falling out upon takeoff. Dont worry about the puma having a passenger seat, its being done. I'll try to get a weapon on the pelican too.


Scully, how big is the warthog going to be? Do you plan to hang it from the bottom (Silent Cartographer comes to mind) Or will it be intended for holding inside the dropship (which may look a bit odd)?

Not sure what ya mean here?

[legacy-[|]dessa]

Those questions were meant in referance to transporting the warthog via the pelican :)

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by [|]dessa
Those questions were meant in referance to transporting the warthog via the pelican :)

What I think I'll do is add a grip undernear the hull so it can carry the warthog much like it does in halo.

[legacy-[|]dessa]

yeah that's prolly the best way to do it :)

[legacy-CaTdAeMoN]

mmmmm..... looks good, try the AS-Junkyard magnet for the grip. :up:

[legacy-Mr_Caravaggio]

I always think of this UDN page when I hear about transports having trouble with other vehicles...

http://udn.epicgames.com/Two/HotRod

...it seems to be for an earlier engine version, but is there nothing there to help?

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by catdaemon
mmmmm..... looks good, try the AS-Junkyard magnet for the grip. :up:

Good idea I'll try that :up:

Hey... anyone got any pics of the pelican carrying the warthog?

[legacy-CaTdAeMoN]

some pelican pics:

http://videogcf.free.fr/haloteam/halo/pelican.jpg
http://www.the-junkyard.net/images/gallery/halo/gallery6small.jpg
http://www.ogresnet.com/halo/pics/v_pelican.jpg

as you can see, this was not riped.

http://halo.ogresnet.com/screenshots/albums/Gameshots/Pelican_Landing.sized.jpg

thats as close as im gona get to the being carried stuff im afraid.

can i beta test this? plz PM me! :up:

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by catdaemon
..as you can see, this was not riped...
Although he did say he used the original Halo texture.

[legacy-{DB}Shadow]

Originally posted by Mr Evil
Although he did say he used the original Halo texture.


Well it's none of our business how he goes about making things, If he gets caught, AND if bungie gives a ****, then he'll be in trouble, but for now, let's just play the game. ^_^

[legacy-Super_Moose]

Meh.
At least he's not stealing from other mod makers any more.
They're good mods he's making too.

Carry on please, Scully. :up:

[legacy-skyshooter]

mmmmm..... looks good, try the AS-Junkyard magnet for the grip.


Good idea I'll try that


good luck with that, in AS_Junkyard there is no magical Magnet... Its a simple mover. Trust me, I tried a few things regarding dropships...

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Originally posted by {DB}Shadow
Well it's none of our business how he goes about making things, If he gets caught, AND if bungie gives a ****, then he'll be in trouble, but for now, let's just play the game. ^_^

If it was such a big deal then why does bungee allow the creation of texture extracting tools? :rolleyes:

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by Agent Scully
If it was such a big deal then why does bungee allow the creation of texture extracting tools? :rolleyes:
To allow modders to mod Halo? The same reason that Epic provide us with UEd? That doesn't mean there aren't limitations on the allowed uses of those tools (e.g. the EULA). For the same reason that when I write code I try to make sure it is laid out and commented in such a way that anyone should be able to understand it. That doesn't mean I want anyone to just take bits of it without asking.

[legacy-Agent Scully]

Thanks to the pig-headedness of Mr. Evil (arguing with Major A Payne and pissing him off) I cannot get the max file from him which means I cannot further modify the pelican in any way. So I guess the pelican will remain as it is. You can all PM Mr. Evil and thank him for his stupidity and ruining it for everyone. Thread now closed.