[OT] Gaming mouse

[legacy-adrums63]

Anyone using the BFG SNIPER BOOMSLANG 2100 or Razer Viper mouse?
I'm in the market and I can't find any reviews for either of these products. Tomshardware had a little bit of info, not much though.

I'm leaning toward the BFG Sniper cuz it has more buttons...i need more buttons....

Any input would be great, thanks!

edit: I've also heard good things about Logitech's MX series...anyone use that?

[legacy-Sir Furious]

Sorry, can't help you with those mouse reviews. BUT: If i were you i'd buy a Logitech MX 510 (plenty of reviews on unrealtournament.com). I got one a week ago and never looked back...8 (!!!) mouse buttons, great speed and precision...what else do you want? GET THAT MOUSE!!

And no, i'm not working for Logitech

[legacy-adrums63]

That looks cool...BUT, for the same price I can get teh BFG Sniper which pwns the MX510 in terms of precision. 2100dpi compared to MX510's 800dpi.

HMMMMM Which to buy which to buy???

[legacy-Falqon]

I use the Viper with an icemat, I love the extra DPI

[legacy-Sir Furious]

Well, here's the answer:

"Those of you who are used to a ball mouse will have some deal of difficulty adjusting to an optical mouse. But believe me, even the Razer Boomslang 2100 series, with its 2100 dpi input can't match the lesser 800 dpi input of the Logitech MX-5100's surgical precision at hand. If you want a higher frag count, this is your mouse for the next few years. In fact, buy two, because it's a long road ahead, and you don't want to be caught with your pants down if you break one." Underground Online

As I said: GET THAT MOUSE GET THAT MOUSE GET THAT MOUSE :D

EDIT: sorry, here's the link to the review

http://www.ugo.com/channels/tech/features/logitechmx510/default.asp

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by Sir Furious
Well, here's the answer:

"Those of you who are used to a ball mouse will have some deal of difficulty adjusting to an optical mouse. But believe me, even the Razer Boomslang 2100 series, with its 2100 dpi input can't match the lesser 800 dpi input of the Logitech MX-5100's surgical precision at hand. If you want a higher frag count, this is your mouse for the next few years. In fact, buy two, because it's a long road ahead, and you don't want to be caught with your pants down if you break one." Underground Online

As I said: GET THAT MOUSE GET THAT MOUSE GET THAT MOUSE :D

Cool cool I'm def considering it!!!

Although I found a review for the BFG Sniper:
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_boomslang_2100/index.shtml

[legacy-Foo]

The boomslangs wear out quickly. A couple of months before they start to deteriorate is the estimate I got from a few people who had owned them.

By contrast, my Dual Optical is still owning 12 months down the line, and it sees about 6 hour use a day on average. Still got the feet and everything.

Second, all the razor mice I know are mere ball mice. Optical is the way to go now, truthfully.

Third, the razor drivers (this is secondhand information) are poor compared to Microsoft and even Logitech's offerings.

[legacy-adrums63]

Awesome feedback guys:up:

Well, you've effectively managed to change my mind...Going with the logitech mx510! Gonna buy it from my baby newegg.com right now!:D

thanks guys:)

[legacy-fiLa]

boomslang 2000, the best mouse ever made.

people who say 800dpi optical is enough actually never tried the mouse. you absolutelly notice the differance, optical just cant beat the fine technic of an mechanic mouse. with a high quality ball mouse like the razer 1000/2000 you can draw every pixel on your screen easily and at the same time, doing very fast spins and turns in shooter games.

the only problem is...you need to clean the mouse almost every week :)

@foo, im using bs 2000 since 1,5years and i never got problems with it and the razer drivers are a lot better then the logitech ones.

[legacy-Sir Furious]

Let the war of the mice begin :D

After reading a couple of reviews (why am i doing this, i already have a mouse!!) I think both mice have their advantages. Logitech has more buttons and seems to be "faster" whereas Razor offers support for left handers and a higher CPI. I can't be objective, since i already have a MX 510 (that rocks imho)...but quite a lot of reviewers compare these two mice and Logitech seems to win most of the time. Don't get me wrong, both mice are great but you'll get more "bang for the buck" from logitech.

Buying a new mouse makes such a difference when playing UT. I am now 1000 times better than before *cough* NOT *cough*

[legacy-Turbidity]

Originally posted by adrums63
That looks cool...BUT, for the same price I can get teh BFG Sniper which pwns the MX510 in terms of precision. 2100dpi compared to MX510's 800dpi.

HMMMMM Which to buy which to buy???

Sorry, i have an MX510, and i can't imagine anything pwning it. It moves with your hand, and the sniper is not only a BALL MOUSE, but it only has 5 buttons to the MX510's 8. No contest. Also, MX510 has 5.8 megapixels/second, can read 15g of acceleration and up to 40 in/sec. Can your ball mouse do that?

[legacy-Devon]

I got a 510 yesterday, I love it! :) So smooth, and so many buttons! =D

[legacy-fiLa]

Originally posted by Turbidity
Sorry, i have an MX510, and i can't imagine anything pwning it. It moves with your hand, and the sniper is not only a BALL MOUSE, but it only has 5 buttons to the MX510's 8. No contest. Also, MX510 has 5.8 megapixels/second, can read 15g of acceleration and up to 40 in/sec. Can your ball mouse do that?


The Razer Boomslang 2000

2000 DPI Encoder Technology
6 MIPS Controller Chip
125polls/sec USB, 200polls/sec PS/2
45 DPR Precision Scrolling


--> who cares about inner technics, i dont calculate with the mouse, i use it.
if you didnt use a bs 2000/2100 or even 1000 yet, stop talking about ball mices when you have no idea.

[..]
The encoder DPI (dots per inch) is the most important factor in determining the smoothness and speed of a mouse. This is described by how many discrete signals are sent to the controller chip when the mouse moves one inch. As the number of signals sent to the chip increases, mouse resolution becomes finer and the resulting motion smoother. The Razer mouse uses a patented focusing technology that allows much higher DPI than current mice. Most conventional mice perform at 600-800 DPI, while the Razer line of mice offers resolutions from 1000 to 2000 DPI. Razer is the first brand to use exclusive kärna precision technology.

The key to this new technology is the focused light beam used to count the rotations of the encoder wheel. An analogy would be the pinpoint precision of a laser versus the dispersion of a flood light. By focusing the light beam, the Razer can track the slightest movement of the encoder wheel with speed and precision far beyond that of a conventional mouse.
[...]

boomslang simulation:

http://www.razerzone.com/products/sim.html

[legacy-Saito]

if dpi matters then why does the dual optical (2 800 dpi sensors) get owned by the mx510 (1 800 dpi sensor) ? answer there are other factors than just dpi in how acurate your mouse is

[legacy-Turbidity]

Originally posted by Saito
if dpi matters then why does the dual optical (2 800 dpi sensors) get owned by the mx510 (1 800 dpi sensor) ? answer there are other factors than just dpi in how acurate your mouse is :up:

[legacy-caesium]

Bought a Boomslang 2100 to see if it was any good...

I found it to be absolutely horrible, the ball would occasionally 'stick', it was insanely sensitive (even with lowest sensitivity settings in the driver) which was crap for me, and the shape is so ergonomically retarded I couldn't hold it comfortably without pressing those damn side buttons.

I went back to my MX500.

[legacy-COKE]

Originally posted by Foo
The boomslangs wear out quickly. A couple of months before they start to deteriorate is the estimate I got from a few people who had owned them.

By contrast, my Dual Optical is still owning 12 months down the line, and it sees about 6 hour use a day on average. Still got the feet and everything.

Second, all the razor mice I know are mere ball mice. Optical is the way to go now, truthfully.

Third, the razor drivers (this is secondhand information) are poor compared to Microsoft and even Logitech's offerings.

U guys dont get it at all , and u dont know what ur talking about .
Razer mouse is the best mouse on the market , and the driver are good . But this mouse is made for left and right handler , so a mx500 or 510 is by far more confortable .

Razer mouse is a pain in the ass to use , some of the button are hard to reach and the ****ing mouse doesnt fit in our humman hand , i think this mouse where made for some mokeys or somethings , i owned one for 1 or 2 week and sold it . I got a mx500 and this mouse is just awsome . Im sure the 510 is even better but its not aviable in canada yet , as soon as it will be , ill get it .

And btw , i dont think u realy need the accuracy of the razer ... I got a 500 and i do some mad ownage sometimes . Im sure the 510 is gonna be perfect .

[legacy-Sir Furious]

First of all @FiLa: great simulation, very impressive :D :haha: (but i admit the boomslang's a good mouse)

When it comes to precision and speed DPI are not the only relevant factor. And even if one or the other was faster, it's like comparing a Porche and a Aston Martin...both are insanely fast! BUT: The MX 510 has 8 mouse buttons whereas the Boomslang has "only" 5. Especially in FPS lots of buttons are great for weapon and communication keybindings. AND: i don't wanna clean my trackball once a week...I'M LAZY...optical all the way for me...

Just to back up my first statement: "even the Razer Boomslang 2100 series, with its 2100 dpi input can't match the lesser 800 dpi input of the Logitech MX-5100's surgical precision at hand" Underground Online

Coke is better than Pepsi

[legacy-Turbidity]

Originally posted by Sir Furious
Coke is better than Pepsi

That's just plain untrue.

[legacy-COKE]

My name do not represent a brand of liquor ... :eek:

[legacy-Sir Furious]

That's just plain untrue.

No it isn't...prove me wrong :D

Just to not get any WL by going off topic: Did i mention that the MX 510 looks stylish? Very well designed and very ergonomical...

[legacy-RedHerring]

I have the black icemat V2 (large) and the MX700 and MX510 (red) and I have teflon tape on my mouse feet. I threw my razor mouse in the box o' obsolete computer stuff, and I have never missed it.

The MX510 is simply the best wired mouse I have ever used. It goes with my laptop to play unreal when I am on the road.

The MX700 (wireless) is the mouse that I use on my MONSTER desktop (P4 3.4GhzHT 1.5GHZ DUAL channel 400mhzDDR ATI 9800XT SATA RAID0 400GB 3Mb DSL ) to play unreal and it is even better. I had my misgivings about playing unreal with a wireless mouse, but the MX700 has no problem with lag.

The boomslang couldn't withstand my pounding it on the desk in fury. The optical mice take it and ask for more.

END-OF-LINE

[legacy-AngryAndroid]

Searched for a good mouse that'll do everything including the dishes. Found the Logitech MX500, can't imagine living without it. It makes an unbelievably huge difference.

Precision wise you'll be lucky to find somthing that feels this good at it, from eye to hand to screen it's seemless. Comfort wise, Logitech have improved on previous ergonomic designs. The MX510 is just as good, you're not really going to notice the difference in the throughput (unless you're some sort of frag king). Both are great for wired, either that or the MX700 for unwired.

Can you tell I like this series of mice? :rolleyes:

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by RedHerring
I have the black icemat V2 (large) and the MX700 and MX510 (red) and I have teflon tape on my mouse feet. I threw my razor mouse in the box o' obsolete computer stuff, and I have never missed it.

The MX510 is simply the best wired mouse I have ever used. It goes with my laptop to play unreal when I am on the road.

The MX700 (wireless) is the mouse that I use on my MONSTER desktop (P4 3.4GhzHT 1.5GHZ DUAL channel 400mhzDDR ATI 9800XT SATA RAID0 400GB 3Mb DSL ) to play unreal and it is even better. I had my misgivings about playing unreal with a wireless mouse, but the MX700 has no problem with lag.

The boomslang couldn't withstand my pounding it on the desk in fury. The optical mice take it and ask for more.

END-OF-LINE

lol:up:

I just bought the mx510....Seemed like the better choice.

[legacy-justgimmeaname]

I've had all those mice.
Trust me, you do NOT want to waste your money on ANY Razer product.

The best mouse, IMO, is the Logitech MX510.
800dpi (like it matters...) and a whooping image capture rate (this means how fast you can move the rodent while still tracking) that is simply second to none.
The shape of it needs getting used to, though. But so does any mouse, really.

[legacy-justgimmeaname]

Originally posted by adrums63
That looks cool...BUT, for the same price I can get teh BFG Sniper which pwns the MX510 in terms of precision. 2100dpi compared to MX510's 800dpi.

HMMMMM Which to buy which to buy???

I'll bet you a zillion dollars - you will NOT be able to feel, measure or see the difference between those DPI.

[legacy-justgimmeaname]

Originally posted by AngryAndroid
The MX510 is just as good, you're not really going to notice the difference in the throughput (unless you're some sort of frag king). Both are great for wired, either that or the MX700 for unwired.



I'm a 'lowsenserr'. There is no other mouse than the MX510 that can keep up with my fast movement on my 16" wide mouse pad.
The MX500 etc. simply stops tracking when I move it at the speeds, I move the MX510.
You bet I know the difference!

As for the MX700 - go into UT, and make a very fast 180 degree turn. You will notice the slight lag.
MX500 doesn't lag, but tracking is very much below MX510.
Most ppl will never notice this, as they never move their mice this fast.

Oh yeah, I guess I'm a frag king, then.

[legacy-B1tchChicken]

Stick with Logitech or MS. The Viper is absolute rubbish. :heart:

[legacy-Cyrin]

I'm using the Logitech Optical MX310 wired mouse.

[legacy-SX_T1]

Boomslangs are the worst. I bought one . The ball would constantly get stuck. Waste of 100.00 .

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by justgimmeaname
I've had all those mice.
Trust me, you do NOT want to waste your money on ANY Razer product.

The best mouse, IMO, is the Logitech MX510.
800dpi (like it matters...) and a whooping image capture rate (this means how fast you can move the rodent while still tracking) that is simply second to none.
The shape of it needs getting used to, though. But so does any mouse, really.

yeah man, I just placed an order for the MX510
cant wait to try it...:up:

[legacy-Turbidity]

Originally posted by adrums63
yeah man, I just placed an order for the MX510
cant wait to try it...:up:
You made the right choice, my friend.

[legacy-adrums63]

Coo
:cool:

thx guys!

[legacy-hellseeker]

Originally posted by Devon
I got a 510 yesterday, I love it! :) So smooth, and so many buttons! =D

i got mine yesturday too :D!!

[legacy-bloodwings]

i can't get used to optical mouses to be honest, they hinder my fragging for some reason. i've had the same ball mouse for 3-4 and i'm too used to it now...

[legacy-zeroskillz]

Right now I use a mx310, thinking about mx510, but I'm hoping the sensitivity doesn't change much, just a smoother stroke.

Anyone with a mx510, does it boost sensitivity? I like the feel of my mx310, but it's almost time for an upgrade.

-zeroskillz

[legacy-Falqon]

http://kahuna.clayton.edu/~csu16044/New%20Folder/DC0009L.jpg

My viper next to that other mouse! :D

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by Falqon
http://kahuna.clayton.edu/~csu16044/New%20Folder/DC0009L.jpg

My viper next to that other mouse! :D

Which do you like better?

Edit: Dude you play on a laptop!? Ouch!

[legacy-RedruM-X]

Ball mice suck :)

[legacy-Fnix]

Trackball owns all

[legacy-justgimmeaname]

Originally posted by zeroskillz
Right now I use a mx310, thinking about mx510, but I'm hoping the sensitivity doesn't change much, just a smoother stroke.

Anyone with a mx510, does it boost sensitivity? I like the feel of my mx310, but it's almost time for an upgrade.

-zeroskillz

If you're happy with your MX310, don't waste your money on the MX510.
It will feel big and blocky for you.
Unless you're a really, really 'lowsenser' like me, stick with your 310.

[legacy-zeroskillz]

Is viper any good?

-zeroskillz

[legacy-cosmicnut]

Originally posted by fiLa
[B]The Razer Boomslang 2000

[..]
The encoder DPI (dots per inch) is the most important factor in determining the smoothness and speed of a mouse. This is described by how many discrete signals are sent to the controller chip when the mouse moves one inch. As the number of signals sent to the chip increases, mouse resolution becomes finer and the resulting motion smoother. The Razer mouse uses a patented focusing technology that allows much higher DPI than current mice. Most conventional mice perform at 600-800 DPI, while the Razer line of mice offers resolutions from 1000 to 2000 DPI. Razer is the first brand to use exclusive kärna precision technology.

The key to this new technology is the focused light beam used to count the rotations of the encoder wheel. An analogy would be the pinpoint precision of a laser versus the dispersion of a flood light. By focusing the light beam, the Razer can track the slightest movement of the encoder wheel with speed and precision far beyond that of a conventional mouse.
[...]


Excuse me, a bit late to this discussion....... Isn't that the way mice have worked from the beginning of time. A disk with slots cut in it rotated between a light source and a detector.
All that high a DPI means is that the mouse will move faster with smaller movements. You can turn this down in software but thats like getting a Porche and putting a 5mph speed limiter on it!
Is your hand accurate to 1000DPI!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!

In the end I thing the differences people notice will be the size of the mouse and the way the drivers handle the signals.
If you have a decent mouse mat, you shouldn't notice too much difference between a ball mouse and an optical mouse with the same DPI and transfer rate, except for the fact you'll have all that extra drag from the mouse ball.

[legacy-Falqon]

Originally posted by adrums63
Which do you like better?

Edit: Dude you play on a laptop!? Ouch!

I like my viper, but I'm a high sens guy. The MX is nice for like IG, but not DM/TDM chaos which I prefer. My laptop isn't so bad, 2.8ghz, FX5600. And the 17" widescreen is really nice, first person shooters just adapt to widescreen so well.

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by Falqon
I like my viper, but I'm a high sens guy. The MX is nice for like IG, but not DM/TDM chaos which I prefer. My laptop isn't so bad, 2.8ghz, FX5600. And the 17" widescreen is really nice, first person shooters just adapt to widescreen so well.

Oh man worse yet it's a SONY! :down: :down:

I had a P.O.S. FX-240...(graduation gift 3 years ago- it came with WinME:sulk:...). Let's see I've replaced the touchpad, LCD (twice), keyboard and ram...why? b/c sony blows! haha no offense if you like yours..I just had a bad experience w/ mine. I still keep that hunk o' junk around in case i need it for class or something. I've reformatted w/ XP...seems to be better now...

[legacy-RedHerring]

Nothing wrong with playing on a laptop.

I have a Dell 5150 that I upgraded to 3.06 Ghz 2Gig Ram and Radeon 9000 video card and it works very well. I play at work when I have a free monute or two. We have a OC3 here, hehe.

I interchange between the MX510 and the MX700 twice a day and I haven't seen any lag at all, well since I plugged it directly into the USB 2.0 port on my computer instead of going through a 2.0 hub. IT DID lag when it was running through the hub. Maybe thats the problem...

RH

[legacy-umopepisdn]

Originally posted by COKE
U guys dont get it at all , and u dont know what ur talking about .
Razer mouse is the best mouse on the market , and the driver are good . But this mouse is made for left and right handler , so a mx500 or 510 is by far more confortable .

Razer mouse is a pain in the ass to use , some of the button are hard to reach and the ****ing mouse doesnt fit in our humman hand , i think this mouse where made for some mokeys or somethings , i owned one for 1 or 2 week and sold it . I got a mx500 and this mouse is just awsome . Im sure the 510 is even better but its not aviable in canada yet , as soon as it will be , ill get it .

And btw , i dont think u realy need the accuracy of the razer ... I got a 500 and i do some mad ownage sometimes . Im sure the 510 is gonna be perfect .

It is in Canada now. Got mine at Futureshop because Best Buy was sold out.

Also I use the USB to PS/2 adapter and put the report rate to 200 instead of the default 100.

And I removed the metal weight inside the mouse to make it lighter, which I prefer.

[legacy-fiLa]

Originally posted by cosmicnut
Excuse me, a bit late to this discussion....... Isn't that the way mice have worked from the beginning of time. A disk with slots cut in it rotated between a light source and a detector.
All that high a DPI means is that the mouse will move faster with smaller movements. You can turn this down in software but thats like getting a Porche and putting a 5mph speed limiter on it!
Is your hand accurate to 1000DPI!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!


actually im moving my mouse using my fingers and not the whole hand and as you may know, fingers in generall are very accuracy.

[legacy-adrums63]

Ooo fiLa, u wrote an .ini ed?

where can I find that?

[legacy-fiLa]

Originally posted by adrums63
Ooo fiLa, u wrote an .ini ed?

where can I find that?

:)

information:
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=379933

download:
http://tigerdave.get-hosted.com/UT2004_ini_Editor-v1.337.zip
http://www.soulix.com/fila/UT2004_ini_Editor-v1.337.zip

[legacy-adrums63]

Originally posted by fiLa
:)

information:
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=379933

download:
http://tigerdave.get-hosted.com/UT2004_ini_Editor-v1.337.zip
http://www.soulix.com/fila/UT2004_ini_Editor-v1.337.zip

very nice my friend...I'll have to give it a try.
Question: Where can I find a list of all the possible keybind options? (i.e. numpad0=switchweapon1 | altfire | onrelease switchtolastweapon )

[legacy-fiLa]

probably in user.ini under [Engine.Input]

oh, i see you mean the commands, well i will google for a link and post it later.

here are some infos, maybe you need to google as well or try to search in unreal wiki.

http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/Binding_Keys
http://www.utstats.com/UT_2003_tips_tricks_Console%20Commands%20&%20Command%20Line%20Parameters.htm

[legacy-AngryAndroid]

Originally posted by justgimmeaname
I'm a 'lowsenserr'. There is no other mouse than the MX510 that can keep up with my fast movement on my 16" wide mouse pad.
The MX500 etc. simply stops tracking when I move it at the speeds, I move the MX510.
You bet I know the difference!

As for the MX700 - go into UT, and make a very fast 180 degree turn. You will notice the slight lag.
MX500 doesn't lag, but tracking is very much below MX510.
Most ppl will never notice this, as they never move their mice this fast.

Oh yeah, I guess I'm a frag king, then.

Bit of a waste of a post, I was just indicating most people won't notice the difference. Seeing as I only move a couple of inches to go from one side of a 1280x1024 screen to the other, and never lost tracking, I'm assuming most folk are in the same position. Considering the standard MX engine is/was far superior to any other optical mouse, the extra 1.1 megapixles/sec still seems to make no difference. Perhaps I should go out and buy a 16" mouse pad just to test your theory? :D

[legacy-cosmicnut]

Lag on the MX700 mice tends to only happen when you use the logitech drivers. I have an MX700 and never had any lag problems at all.

iLa
Finger are accurate when holding light objects like pens and brushes, the common mouse ruins this accurace with it's extra weight and friction. Now, however accurate our hands are, getting things precise to a 1000DPI dot is virtually impossible

but if your that good...... cool!

[legacy-Shizna]

I hate ball mice... I am one of those people that will attempt to clean it every time I get killed.

Laser mice need no looking after at all, I have a 'god-knows' dpi mouse, it must be less than 100. When going for precision aim, I slowly drag the mouse to the side and my aim is jerking all over the place. Laser mice are less accurate than Ball mice, but I have always found that Laser mice are much faster. My old Ball mouse was squeaky and bumpy.

Just make sure you dont get a wireless mouse, they are a pointless hassle. "I WANNA UZ MA MOUSE FROM THA OTHA RUM!!!1111".


QUESTION: Can you still bind all 8 buttons on the MX510 if you use the Windows drivers instead of Logitech? I hear that Logitech drivers still have some problems with mouse acceleration. I would like to play UT99 again when my MX510 arrives.

[legacy-cosmicnut]

2 things
If you use the MS drivers, the buttons must supported by the game, if you can se them through the games interface, they will work.

2nd, 100DPI, wow now were talking the kind of DPI of my Genus pen mouse and that was 150DPI, you did a diagonal line (on my NEW Atari ST) and you got a staircase

(for those not in the know, it was a mouse shaped like a pen with a small mouse at the 3cmx3cm square tip!)

Now the problem your complaining of (the mouse jumping around) is more likely a mousemat problem. Optical mice see the mousemat so high reflectivity or lack of a pattern causes the mouse to jump around.

I agree with you on the old wireless mice as they didn't have a good enough transfer rate between themouse and reciever. The new ones work really well and have the same transfer rate as if they were directly plugged into the USB port. Wireless is great whn you don't have much desk space and the cord keeps geting tangled!

[legacy-justgimmeaname]

Originally posted by AngryAndroid
Bit of a waste of a post, I was just indicating most people won't notice the difference. Seeing as I only move a couple of inches to go from one side of a 1280x1024 screen to the other, and never lost tracking, I'm assuming most folk are in the same position. Considering the standard MX engine is/was far superior to any other optical mouse, the extra 1.1 megapixles/sec still seems to make no difference. Perhaps I should go out and buy a 16" mouse pad just to test your theory? :D

What theory?
I'm giving you the facts.

[legacy-wachi]

Originally posted by justgimmeaname
I'm a 'lowsenserr'. There is no other mouse than the MX510 that can keep up with my fast movement on my 16" wide mouse pad.
The MX500 etc. simply stops tracking when I move it at the speeds, I move the MX510.
You bet I know the difference!


so.. i use ms 0.4 and so i got tomove the mouse for about 60 cm to make a 360° turn. .. and this in about 1ms ? maybe 10ms ? dont know^^ but what i know is that u cant move your mx500 that fast that it would stop tracking

hmm u try telling me u need 80 or 100 cm for a 360 ° turn or what ?

[legacy-Foo]

I ordered an mx510 \\o//

[legacy-Saito]

Originally posted by Foo
I ordered an mx510 \\o//

you will love it... I love mine:D

[legacy-COKE]

Originally posted by umopepisdn
It is in Canada now. Got mine at Futureshop because Best Buy was sold out.

Also I use the USB to PS/2 adapter and put the report rate to 200 instead of the default 100.

And I removed the metal weight inside the mouse to make it lighter, which I prefer.


lol ur right , they got some now , i called them like last week and they was waiting for it ... Im going to get one right now :D

[legacy-Foo]

When I switched from my Wingman Gaming Mouse (RIP) to my Dual Optical, I did so by purchasing an mx500 at the same time. I then spent a week comparing the 2 mice, and sold the least preferred to my housemate.

On balance of things, the new 510 sensor, coupled with my need for a new set of mouse feet, means I'm gonna bite the bullet and blindly go for the mx510.

I hope you're right :D

[Nirvelli]

I just ordered the Red MX510... my bro ordered the Blue one... total cost only $85.98.
That's only $42.99/mouse.
Red Link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001YGIB0/104-1383437-4746322?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
Blue Link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00020E4QO/104-1383437-4746322?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
:D :up: