v3236 can i turn off the watersplash effect?

[legacy-pwnedism]

hmhyeah how to turn off teh watersplash ...sure it looks good
but its worse for my aiming in maps like corrugation
so ?

[legacy-Foo]

lol.

[legacy-pwnedism]

whats so funny mofo i dont want watersplash crap

[musilowski]

Umm... For slow-machines it might be a hell but even for fast-machines it might be hell. Lol, I don't know what I'm talking here... Maybe I should go to sleep... :D

[legacy-Red_@y@s]

so is this patch official ??? if it is FFS epic sort it out .....

[legacy-pwnedism]

heh epic just added it coz some morons here wanted watersplash that bad:)

[legacy-»Dan«[ger]]

Looks like setting world detail to low is the only way to turn it off. Haven´t searched the .ini yet.

[legacy-Sidekicker]

Originally posted by pwnedism
whats so funny mofo i dont want watersplash crap

lolrofle hrhr omgwtf ? :bulb:

[legacy-commander_keen2]

Originally posted by Foo
lol.

[legacy-Maegrim]

Originally posted by Sidekicker
lolrofle hrhr omgwtf ? :bulb:
my words almost exactly :noob:

[legacy-pwnedism]

**** off nerds geekcity kk

[legacy-Shizna]

Oh poor guy...

If you dont want the watersplash effect play another game.

[The5thviruz]

Uninstall the patch then.
PROBLEM SOLVED.

[legacy-Guyver1]

If you dont want the watersplash effect play another game.


how ****ing moronic can you get........

:weird: :confused: :sour: :down:

[legacy-Super_Moose]

Originally posted by Guyver1
how ****ing moronic can you get........

:weird: :confused: :sour: :down:
That's about the limit, I'd say. :up:

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by Super_Moose
That's about the limit, I'd say. :up:


:haha:

[legacy-Ze@lot]

lol i cant wait for some nice water maps. gonna be really funny
seeing people's fps drop to 0 when the deemer hits the water :rolleyes:

[legacy-Shizna]

What?

I was in fact being sarcastic. Too many children and trolls on these forums I have to say.

I thought the "Oh poor guy!" part was a dead give-away for anyone with an inferior sense of humour.

EDIT: I think the water effects look cool, it certainly looks a bit cheesy at the moment where any 'water' zone acts like tar. Plus, is it really that much of a deal?

[legacy-Guyver1]

use the bloody sarcasm tags then

[legacy-A2597]

Originally posted by pwnedism
heh epic just added it coz some morons here wanted watersplash that bad:)

which also explains IG CTF....

[legacy-Sidekicker]

Originally posted by A2597
which also explains IG CTF....

The irony :rolleyes:

[legacy-Mr Evil]

Originally posted by Ze@lot
lol i cant wait for some nice water maps. gonna be really funny
seeing people's fps drop to 0 when the deemer hits the water :rolleyes:
Actually, the Redeemer hitting water produces only one small splash, the same as any other projectile hitting the water. The minigun produces the most splashes.

[legacy-The Kins]

Originally posted by pwnedism
**** off nerds geekcity kk
Originally posted by Conker the Squirrel
Oh, you're a real charmer.

[legacy-wachi]

Originally posted by Sidekicker
The irony :rolleyes:

:confused:

[legacy-Radeon285]

Christ, even the water splashs are a problem.... ya know.. God forbid they block your line of site :rolleyes:

[legacy-Sidekicker]

Originally posted by wachi
:confused:

:confused: :confused:

[legacy-Punchline1]

i play this game to look at the pretty colors

[legacy-SealClubber]

Half the time the "splashes" dont even work, I wouldnt worry about it.

[legacy-nublar]

Originally posted by Radeon285
Christ, even the water splashs are a problem.... ya know.. God forbid they block your line of site :rolleyes:
Yes they are as a matter of fact, the game was fine before, why add some gay watersplashes anyway. If they do it they might as well make it an option so serious players have the ability to turn it off and the "OMFG PRETY WATARFLASHES SI TEH ROX" kind of NOOBS can turn them on. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :up:

[legacy-Radeon285]

Originally posted by nublar
Yes they are as a matter of fact, the game was fine before, why add some gay watersplashes anyway. If they do it they might as well make it an option so serious players have the ability to turn it off and the "OMFG PRETY WATARFLASHES SI TEH ROX" kind of NOOBS can turn them on. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :up:

um... actually I was poking fun at the people who wanted to take them away, apparently somthing called sarcasm dosnt exist around here :confused:

[legacy-nublar]

Originally posted by Radeon285
um... actually I was poking fun at the people who wanted to take them away, apparently somthing called sarcasm dosnt exist around here :confused:
YEAH WELL THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST SHERLOCK
ROFL
:haha:


what an idiot you are

[fuegerstef]

Originally posted by nublar
YEAH WELL THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST SHERLOCK
ROFL
:haha:


what an idiot you are

Only idiots type in capitals...

[Flak]

You guys sound like a bunch of cranky old women.

[fuegerstef]

Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
You guys sound like a bunch of cranky old women.

:sulk:

[Bort]

Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
You guys sound like a bunch of cranky old women.

:haha::up:

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
You guys sound like a bunch of cranky old women.


I ought to beat you to death with my handbag!

[legacy-nublar]

omg. rofl. irl. atm.

what a bunch of comedians on these forums

[fuegerstef]

Originally posted by The5thviruz
I ought to beat you to death with my handbag!

:sour::up:

/me gets off for some 1on1 sniper* practice.



*)Or can we use the handbag-arena mutator...???

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by fuegerstef
:sour::up:

/me gets off for some 1on1 sniper* practice.



*)Or can we use the handbag-arena mutator...???


Somebody has to make that, replace the shield gun!

[fuegerstef]

Originally posted by The5thviruz
Somebody has to make that, replace the shield gun!

Would be a nice addition to Chaos UT (Duel).

[Flak]

Originally posted by fuegerstef
:sour::up:

/me gets off for some 1on1 sniper* practice.



*)Or can we use the handbag-arena mutator...???

LMFAO

You'd probably beat me in that, I don't carry a handbag.

[legacy-slipster]

Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
LMFAO

You'd probably beat me in that, I don't carry a handbag.

borrow mine if ya ask nicely :)

[legacy-gimplar]

lol @ all the eye candy noobs tbfh.

ye lets **** up the gameplay with stupid features which do nothing anyway. but thats noobs for you. :haha: :haha: :haha:

[legacy-^ngelus]

Originally posted by Shizna
Oh poor guy...

If you dont want the watersplash effect play another game.

FPS test...

some people dont get it Do you ? (it's about the game-play not how good it lookes :) OW btw with an ATI 9800 pro oc:440/370 and a very good cpu at 3700+

http://www.angelus.cistron.nl/water1.JPG

Then i tested something WHAHA epic what have u done? are u ....? then what ..... because ..... ?? (i'm sorry but pls checkout your new picture :) how it looks like when 10 people are fighting on this area...

http://www.angelus.cistron.nl/water2.JPG

now really this is a close up :) when i do it for about 3 meters away (when i am alone it will get fps drops to 65 (without the splash i have 85 :) all the time) which is funny :)

seriously :) i am happy ill get my x800 XT soon .. poor guys i feel your pain :cry:

[legacy-Shuri]

Originally posted by fuegerstef
Would be a nice addition to Chaos UT (Duel).

How did you find out?

[legacy-nublar]

Originally posted by ^ngelus
FPS test...

some people dont get it Do you ? (it's about the game-play not how good it lookes :) OW btw with an ATI 9800 pro oc:440/370 and a very good cpu at 3700+

http://www.angelus.cistron.nl/water1.JPG

Then i tested something WHAHA epic what have u done? are u insane? (i'm sorry but pls checkout your new picture :) how it looks like when 10 people are fighting on this area...

http://www.angelus.cistron.nl/water2.JPG

now really this is a close up :) when i do it for about 3 meters away (when i am alone it will get fps drops to 65 (without the splash i have 85 :) all the time) which is funny :)

seriously :) i am happy ill get my x800 XT soon .. poor guys i feel your pain :cry:
Nice going epic :mad:

[legacy-Punchline1]

let me get this straight, there is a way to turn this off right?

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by Punchline1
let me get this straight, there is a way to turn this off right?


If you don't like it, uninstall the patch or don't jump into water every chance you get.

[legacy-Wolf Bro]

I've noticed there is a way to sort of turn them off.... at least its always worked for me when concerning headlights and the new water splashes.

In the UT2004.ini there is a desiredframerate = X line. if you set X to a very high number, the system will turn off extra visuals to try to compensate. Making X a low number turns them all on even if your only getting 5-10 fps.

Hope it helps

[legacy-AudigyX]

A simple water splash shouldn't cut your framerate into quarters!

:weird:


Handbag arena would be good with this: http://www.planetunreal.com/gy/

[legacy-^ngelus]

Originally posted by Wolf Bro
I've noticed there is a way to sort of turn them off.... at least its always worked for me when concerning headlights and the new water splashes.

In the UT2004.ini there is a desiredframerate = X line. if you set X to a very high number, the system will turn off extra visuals to try to compensate. Making X a low number turns them all on even if your only getting 5-10 fps.

Hope it helps

Yes i tryed it .. i had 35.0000 and now i setted it at 200.0000
this gives sometimes a splash which will give me no fps drop
Thx

Mindesiredframerate=200.xxxx

[legacy-Wolf Bro]

glad to help.

I'm on a laptop, so keeping it at 35 usuallys cancels them out for me. However I don't mind them.

Lucky high-end comp users.....

[legacy-Falqon]

or you could just turn down world detail, which is what your .ini thing is doing I bet.

[legacy-supernewbie]

I noticed the flak cannon only does water splashes in singleplayer matches but not online :down::mad:

[legacy-Panama Jack]

Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
You guys sound like a bunch of cranky old women.

Menopause is a terrible thing to waste.

[legacy-Wolf Bro]

Originally posted by Falqon
or you could just turn down world detail, which is what your .ini thing is doing I bet.

thats a good call, and may hold some truth. However I notice that if i turn my world settings to Low weapons don't show up in the weapon lockers. if I set it to high, and turn the mindesiredframerate to 200, the weapons are there. Everything looks great and i don't mind missing the effects.

[legacy-TWD]

ONCE AGAIN twd has to come in and say you're all stupid

Turn down your world detail level and the splashes will go away.

doh wait someone beat me to it...

and while I'm at it splashing creates no noticable decrease in performance unless your standing right next to it on purpose so you can see nothing else.

[legacy-search161]

OMFG - they added water spashes that block my line of site!! Epic PLZ fix!
And get rid of those trees and rocks too - sometimes they block my line of site too.
And those f'n hill and walls. FFS get RID of them. Sometime ppl hide there on PURPOSE! I think it's a bug.
OMFGFFS - now the noobs are using f'n shield guns all the time for the pretty green glow (eyecandy loosers) AND I can't shoot them. GET RID OF THE SHIELD GUN!!



MUUUUCH better. :D

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by search161
OMFG - they added water spashes that block my line of site!! Epic PLZ fix!
And get rid of those trees and rocks too - sometimes they block my line of site too.
And those f'n hill and walls. FFS get RID of them. Sometime ppl hide there on PURPOSE! I think it's a bug.
OMFGFFS - now the noobs are using f'n shield guns all the time for the pretty green glow (eyecandy loosers) AND I can't shoot them. GET RID OF THE SHIELD GUN!!



MUUUUCH better. :D

Indeed:D

[legacy-Wolf Bro]

Don't forget the gun bug.

Opponents turn their gun towards me, and I get shot!

:)


Just wait a few days for more tidbits

[legacy-Noz]

For all the 'pro' people. Just set everything to lowest except for your resolution and player models. Then go have fun :/.

[Emmet Otter]

The splashes are cool. But they move very slow. I mean, your playing fast running around then you shoot the water and those splashes are slow moving.

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by Wolf Bro
Don't forget the gun bug.

Opponents turn their gun towards me, and I get shot!

:)


Just wait a few days for more tidbits


You mean if you shoot someone enough you kill them?
OMG How unreal can you get?!??!!??!?!111!!oneone!!eleven!!

[legacy-vhx]

Originally posted by nublar
Yes they are as a matter of fact, the game was fine before, why add some gay watersplashes anyway. If they do it they might as well make it an option so serious players have the ability to turn it off and the "OMFG PRETY WATARFLASHES SI TEH ROX" kind of NOOBS can turn them on. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :up:
Your forum name works good for you.

[legacy-hans_vdc]

I *do* like the water splashes, but I too think they are way too slow. It's like the flashes are ... euhm ... splashing in slow motion (if that makes sense)

Would LOVE to see them look like the ones from the HalfLife E3 video at the end (CS with source engine). That looked awesome.

[legacy-Punchline1]

Originally posted by search161
OMFG - they added water spashes that block my line of site!! Epic PLZ fix!
And get rid of those trees and rocks too - sometimes they block my line of site too.
And those f'n hill and walls. FFS get RID of them. Sometime ppl hide there on PURPOSE! I think it's a bug.
OMFGFFS - now the noobs are using f'n shield guns all the time for the pretty green glow (eyecandy loosers) AND I can't shoot them. GET RID OF THE SHIELD GUN!!



MUUUUCH better. :D

god you're retarded

water splashes not only decrease framerate, but any visual obstruction they do add is suddenly changing 6 YEARS of UT history (i get the sense from your post that you started with the series around 2k4?)

secondly, there are quite a lot of real bugs in this game, most notably that direct hits with flak and/or rockets often does ZERO damage, server browser bugs, or the fact that certain game settings (i.e. for the TL) simply dont work online, nevermind the countless threads about them

but were any fixes put in?

no, we got water splashes

joy

[legacy-andy2004]

those water splashes look horrid i mean what the hell just landed in the water to do that ???

(insert flaming comment here.....)

im off to bed sheesh :bulb:

[legacy-willjohn1]

The effect is too big. Tossing cinder blocks into a pond wouldn't make splashes that big.

[legacy-Powerslave666]

Epic wants to make money and the majority of the game's audience are casual gamers who like simple gameplay and pretty effects, so us more serious players are gonna have to cope with the fact that Epic is slowly newbifying the game.

[legacy-Turambar]

Originally posted by Noz
For all the 'pro' people. Just set everything to lowest except for your resolution and player models. Then go have fun :/.

Yeah, the whining all these 'serious' 'pro' players are doing is turning my stomach. I have been playing UT since 1999 and am as serious about it as it is healthy to be. I like the splash effect though it could look better, and I don't see any serious degradation of performance when its used. If you don't like it or your machine can't hack it go edit your ini file, or turn your world details lower, or set a high Min Desried Frame rate, or go buy a serious rig to match your serious gaming skillz, just do something, anything, about it except continuing to whine. It just makes you sound like, well, a whiner.

[legacy-Powerslave666]

Omg plz not a whiner.

[legacy-Falqon]

I too have noticed that like I can use the minigun and flack and have like 10 water splashes at once with no real depreciation of frames per second.

I like this, yes the water splashes aren't great quality, or that realistic. They honestly remind me of sprites, like how no matter what causes them, or how they are supposd to look, they all look the same. It's kinda old school like duke3d and the rocket launcher explosion. I'm not complaining at all, because the advantage is they don't destroy my frame rate.

I think that the splashes are really cool, as long as you don't go pointing your crosshair into the water point blank, honestly who does that? There is no correlation between number of splashes and slow down, it's just some wierd effect when you're up close. All of this "slow me down in firefights" is bs only applicable if you stare at the water instead of the people you're shooting or supposed to be shooting at.

[legacy-mc-fine]

Originally posted by Powerslave666
Epic wants to make money and the majority of the game's audience are casual gamers who like simple gameplay and pretty effects, so us more serious players are gonna have to cope with the fact that Epic is slowly newbifying the game.

yeah they are really newbifying the game cause they put in a graphic effect that is easily turned off. Please shut the hell up.

[legacy-Powerslave666]

Originally posted by mc-fine
yeah they are really newbifying the game cause they put in a graphic effect that is easily turned off. Please shut the hell up.

Who said I was only talking about the water splashes? Learn to read better please you little fanboy.

[legacy-mc-fine]

Originally posted by Powerslave666
Who said I was only talking about the water splashes? Learn to read better please you little fanboy.

Water splashes are pretty effects. Water splashes do not newbify anything. If you want to whine about no boostdodge take it elsewhere instead of playing tag-along-whine to the issue at hand.

[legacy-Powerslave666]

Sure they don't directly newbify the game, but it adds absolutely nothing to the gameplay, they should be focusing on more important issues instead of adding more eyecandy.

[legacy-pwnedism]

nevermind newbs u dont know it better
better add some stupid effects as fixing bugs gj
and so easily to turn off?
i cant find a ini entry called watersplashes=True/False
JUST STFU NEWBS
:down:

[legacy-Crimson Sigil]

Originally posted by Shizna
Oh poor guy...

If you dont want the watersplash effect play another game.

Screw that.

Watersplashes plus the mini = big framerate hit for me. The splash effects are hardly necessary--they don't make the game more fun, they don't really make the game look better, and I don't want to have to set world detail to low (making the entire game look like crap) just to get rid of one particular effect. This sort of thing irks me--a handful of people ***** and moan that they want something, so it gets implemented in a patch to shut them up, and the people who never asked for it in the first place are stuck dealing with the side-effects.

(And for all the people who come back with, 'Just go upgrade your rig and quit *****ing,' I'd be glad to as long as you're paying. Unless you're offering to send me a check, though, I don't want to hear it. You're not interested in my problems, and that's fine, but don't expect me not to care about the framerate hit because those splashes aren't affecting you.)

Epic, if we're going to be stuck with the splash effects, please add a checkbox to the settings menu so those of us who don't want them can disable them.

[legacy-LastPlaced]

Originally posted by nublar
so serious players have the ability to turn it off

never ceases to amuse me that 'serious' players need all they extra help they can get. lol - you are so 'pro' that you cant play the game with the normal settings?

Why is it that only the 'good' players need extra help and training aids like bright skins and hit sounds? Reminds me of people who need stabalisers to ride a bike.

'Whine whine the splashes make it harder for me to aim' - well I guess you aint quite as good as you thought you were then. Splashes, dark skins, whatever dont hamper my ability to kick universal ass.


Oh, and to the guy who whined about the forum being full of 'kids' - re-read your post and have a think about how it makes you look. IMO adults should lead by example - moaning about not getting a joke doesnt make you look good im afraid, and boasting about being 'grown up' and using 'kids' in the derogatory manner that you did makes you look even worse.

GL all and HF.

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by LastPlaced
never ceases to amuse me that 'serious' players need all they extra help they can get. lol - you are so 'pro' that you cant play the game with the normal settings?

Why is it that only the 'good' players need extra help and training aids like bright skins and hit sounds? Reminds me of people who need stabalisers to ride a bike.

'Whine whine the splashes make it harder for me to aim' - well I guess you aint quite as good as you thought you were then. Splashes, dark skins, whatever dont hamper my ability to kick universal ass.


Oh, and to the guy who whined about the forum being full of 'kids' - re-read your post and have a think about how it makes you look. IMO adults should lead by example - moaning about not getting a joke doesnt make you look good im afraid, and boasting about being 'grown up' and using 'kids' in the derogatory manner that you did makes you look even worse.

GL all and HF.


Exactly:up:

If you don't like water splashes, then stay the hell away from water on levels.

No one is making you jump in a puddle during that all important DM battle.

I have had absolutely no problem fragging people with water splashes on.

There is always another thing to whine about with you "l33t" players isn't there?

[legacy-Crimson Sigil]

Originally posted by The5thviruz
Exactly:up:

If you don't like water splashes, then stay the hell away from water on levels.

No one is making jump in a puddle during that all important DM battle.

I have had absolutely no problem fragging people with water splashes on.

There is always another thing to whine about with you "l33t" players isn't there?

Kinda hard to avoid big patches of water on DM-IronDeity. :p I'm already dreading how that's going to play when you get three people with minis or AR's in one of the spots with ankle-deep water and stray shots are throwing up splashes. Not to mention the fact that there'll be people who know they can screw over framerates for the players without cutting-edge machines by ripping shots into the water, and will end up doing it just for the sake of griefing. Way too many people think like that.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I hardly consider myself a '133t' player. I'm just a guy with a decent-but-not-great PC who enjoys playing the game, has been able to play it at a decent framerate up until now, and doesn't want to start getting his butt handed to him by people who can afford to lose 15-20 fps for some stupid special effect without batting an eye while his own machine chokes.

[legacy-Fuzzlebunny]

I'll never understand why these tweak people that turn off every possible setting to squeeze out every single fps they can, play the very latest games that are meant and designed to look their best. Shouldnt you guys be playing counterstrike or ut99 or something?

I bet that when doom3 and halflife is released, most people will talk about how amazing it looks, yet tweak it to the point where it looks like quake 2.

I like the splashes, I think they look neat, and haven't noticed any performance drops with them so far, let alone had any problems with it. When are we gonna get dirt splashes?

Tell ya what, go play paintball, you'll get great fps and there's never any patches or GPF's.


Oh, and you guys saying how epic sucks for "making pretty effects instead of fixing bugs", do you really think that the guy who made the splashes is the same guy working on bugs? That's like blaming the musician for xan's texture error.

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by Fuzzlebunny
That's like blaming the musician for xan's texture error.

Yeah Kevin, when the hell is that going to be fixed???:D :haha:

Like I said before, I have had no problems with the water splashes.

Maybe my computer is Uber l33t?:D

[legacy-AngryAndroid]

lol this thread is funny as heck, Ive turned my settings up to max, then down again and you know what? I don't get any water effects after patching lol

I guess I'll just have to think of another reason for getting my butt kicked, as the, "water effects are ruining my game" excuse isn't going to work :(

[legacy-Crimson Sigil]

I'll spell this out, since I'm getting the impression I haven't made this sufficiently clear.

I don't turn down all the settings to squeeze out extra FPS. My whole goal is to get the game looking as good as possible while still maintaining a playable (not maximized) framerate. And sorry, Fuzzlebunny, but you sound so elitist it's ridiculous--you're basically saying that if you don't own a high-end gaming rig and play with all settings maxed, you shouldn't be playing UT2k4.

The problem is that the splashes (which some of you here seem to be ridiculously attached to, for whatever reason--I don't understand the big fascination, or why people were so insistent they even be added in the first place) don't really add anything substantial to the look of the game IMO, and they can also make my framerate take a nosedive. Having one special effect I don't even care about make me lose 10-15+ FPS is ridiculous. And I don't even have the option to turn off that single stupid effect without setting world detail to low, making the entire game look like crap. Why should I have to do that just to get rid of the one unnecessary effect that makes my FPS take a big hit? So yes, I want the option of turning off the splashes without affecting the rest of the visual settings.

[legacy-Fuzzlebunny]

Originally posted by AngryAndroid
I guess I'll just have to think of another reason for getting my butt kicked, as the, "water effects are ruining my game" excuse isn't going to work :(

Bahahahhaa :D
You sir is sigged.


Edit:

Originally posted by Crimson Sigil
I'll spell this out, since I'm getting the impression I haven't made this sufficiently clear.

I don't turn down all the settings to squeeze out extra FPS. My whole goal is to get the game looking as good as possible while still maintaining a playable (not maximized) framerate. And sorry, Fuzzlebunny, but you sound so elitist it's ridiculous--you're basically saying that if you don't own high-end gaming rig and play with all settings maxed, you shouldn't be playing UT2k4.

The problem is that the splashes (which some of you here seem to be ridiculously attached to, for whatever reason--I don't understand the big fascination, or why people were so insistent they even be added in the first place) don't really add anything substantial to the look of the game IMO, and they can also make my framerate take a nosedive. Having one special effect I don't even care about make me lose 10-15+ FPS is ridiculous. And I don't even have the option to turn off that single stupid effect without setting world detail to low, making the entire game look like crap. Why should I have to do that just to get rid of the one unnecessary effect that makes my FPS take a big hit? So yes, I want the option of turning off the splashes without affecting the rest of the visual settings.

I own a pretty average system and I play on pretty high details, I wasn't saying that people with low-end rigs shouldnt be playing ut2k4, I was wondering why the "competitive pros" who do nothing but whine about how useless all the eyecandy is, are playing the latest games where the eyecandy is a big factor.
I agree that there should be an option to turn the splashes off, I can understand that a lot of people don't like it and I dont have a problem with that, what seriously irks me is how people have no respect for the work epic puts into this and just grabs a chance to whine about it.

"I don't turn down all the settings to squeeze out extra FPS." - That means my original post regarding people who did, wasn't aimed particularily at you.

[legacy-FatMouse]

I just tried it and it didn't touch my framerate, unless i was facing directly downwards shooting a constant steam of bullets into the water...

If you have a problem with this, learn to aim. :haha:

[The5thviruz]

Originally posted by ejg
I just tried it and it didn't touch my framerate, unless i was facing directly downwards shooting a constant steam of bullets into the water...

If you have a problem with this, learn to aim. :haha:

:haha:

Seriously, what idiot actually stands still on water during a match and fires down?

[legacy-Crimson Sigil]

Originally posted by ejg
I just tried it and it didn't touch my framerate, unless i was facing directly downwards shooting a constant steam of bullets into the water...

If you have a problem with this, learn to aim. :haha:

If shots never accidentally hit the water, then what was the point of adding the splash effect for projectiles in the first place? It's not like Epic's going to release an Assault map where you have to kill a swimming pool. :p And how about firing down at somebody crossing the pond in Antalus? Unless you're a miracle marksman who can magically sink every minigun round you fire into a moving target without missing, you're going to kick up spray. If you really believe that nobody's ever going to spray rounds into the water during a match, accidentally or otherwise, you're fooling yourself.

Of course, it's easier for some of you to sit here and mock everyone who has a problem with the spray fx, rather than just saying, 'Hey, it's no big deal to me if they can turn off the waterspray or not, so if it helps them, why not?' and letting it go. That would actually involve showing a little decency, though, so I'm not holding my breath. :p

[legacy-mc-fine]

Originally posted by Crimson Sigil
If shots never accidentally hit the water, then what was the point of adding the splash effect for projectiles in the first place? It's not like Epic's going to release an Assault map where you have to kill a swimming pool. :p And how about firing down at somebody crossing the pond in Antalus? Unless you're a miracle marksman who can magically sink every minigun round you fire into a moving target without missing, you're going to kick up spray. If you really believe that nobody's ever going to spray rounds into the water during a match, accidentally or otherwise, you're fooling yourself.

Of course, it's easier for some of you to sit here and mock everyone who has a problem with the spray fx, rather than just saying, 'Hey, it's no big deal to me if they can turn off the waterspray or not, so if it helps them, why not?' and letting it go. That would actually involve showing a little decency, though, so I'm not holding my breath. :p

Turn your settings high as possible. Look around. Then turn world detail low leaving everything else the same. No reasonable person can honestly say they have turned off an option that now makes the game look terrible. Turning world detail low gives you the option to play without it. How is this addition a bad thing?

The problem with this forum is attitude of whiney little kids acting like Epic is supposed to bend over to their every demand because they are "serious" players. If someone would like an option to turn off only the water splash effect they could make the request maturely and in a respectful manner. I mean look at the patch changes. Its full of ideas or requests made by the community.

The ironic part is by Epic actually listening to the community it just encourages the constant attitude and whine because these kids spam "WTF! Epic fix now! You screwed up my game!" in the hope their demands will be met.

[legacy-RedruM-X]

The drops of the watersplashes get on my weapon, and then it rusts like hell, there's already a big hole in my RL.
Remove those splashes ffs !!

:cool:

[Frogger]

would still be nice to be able to disable if you want. I can turn off shadows and foilage...why not water splashes? I dont demand it..would just be nice.

[The5thviruz]

Well, as i have said 2 times before: It doesn't make a difference to me so....

Hey, it's no big deal to me if they can turn off the waterspray or not, so if it helps them, why not?


:D

[legacy-^ngelus]

Will the x800 XT handle this plashes?
i hope it drops not as much as mine Ati 9800 pro

i'm asking this because i wanne buy a x800 XT :) i just hope it can handle those splashes :)

And for all the people who dont have money to buy such HIgh end card :) OW man u are ****ed :)

85 fps to 35 fps :) what was epic thinking :) .. believe me i like them :) but not if it cost your FPS and that effects your Gameplay and SKills :)


ow if some noob still whinning about the fact that he does like it and dont care about his FPS :) I AM going to Splash/Spank him!

[legacy-Sidekicker]

Originally posted by ^ngelus
Will the x800 XT handle this plashes?
i hope it drops not as much as mine Ati 9800 pro

i'm asking this because i wanne buy a x800 XT :) i just hope it can handle those splashes :)

And for all the people who dont have money to buy such HIgh end card :) OW man u are ****ed :)

85 fps to 35 fps :) what was epic thinking :) .. believe me i like them :) but not if it cost your FPS and that effects your Gameplay and SKills :)


ow if some noob still whinning about the fact that he does like it and dont care about his FPS :) I AM going to Splash/Spank him!

g0t smilies ?

[legacy-Fuzzlebunny]

That has to be the most provocative post I've read today. I'd form a proper reply but I don't want any warning points.

[legacy-Gaal Dornik]

Ahh typical INA thread :sour:
A person asks for something and get flamed for it. WTF do you care why does he want to set it off.
And btw the perfectly valid reason for this is that this feature brings a huge fps drop sometimes, 85->30fps, like already pictured here.
No other settings does have such an impact and it makes playing with high details impossible, how hard is that to get.

[legacy-Shuri]

Originally posted by Crimson Sigil
If shots never accidentally hit the water, then what was the point of adding the splash effect for projectiles in the first place?

He didn't say that they would never be seen, he said they don't affect his fps.

Myself, I like them, despite the problems. An option to disable it would be cool for those that don't. No biggie.

[legacy-^ngelus]

Originally posted by Sidekicker
g0t smilies ?

i g0t MORE RAM ?? and u?? :noob:

[legacy-Panama Jack]

Originally posted by ejg
I just tried it and it didn't touch my framerate, unless i was facing directly downwards shooting a constant steam of bullets into the water...

If you have a problem with this, learn to aim. :haha:


Agree 100%!

What is funny I have seen some SO CALLED pro players who jack their graphics settings so low the game looks like something created in 1986 without any textures just so they can get maximum performance.

I call players like that TechnoNewbees. They have no life outside the game. ;)

[legacy-pwnedism]

Originally posted by Gaal Dornik
Ahh typical INA thread :sour:
A person asks for something and get flamed for it. WTF do you care why does he want to set it off.
And btw the perfectly valid reason for this is that this feature brings a huge fps drop sometimes, 85->30fps, like already pictured here.
No other settings does have such an impact and it makes playing with high details impossible, how hard is that to get.
right buddy i was just asking and all i get are answers like: lol ,or
omg u dont like it? change the game then
geek style gg

[legacy-CPG-US^Prophet]

Have you thought that people turn down their settings for performence issues? I do, I'm not a pro. Just with the graphic settings on anything but lowest, my fps drop too low. I'm sure other people want those crucial fps in the time of need, eg. in battle.

[legacy-Pure Fusion]

Originally posted by CPG-US^Prophet
Have you thought that people turn down their settings for performence issues? I do, I'm not a pro. Just with the graphic settings on anything but lowest, my fps drop too low. I'm sure other people want those crucial fps in the time of need, eg. in battle.
Watersplahes are disabled when world details are set to low.
So it shouldn't affect low-end systems.

[legacy-Crimson Sigil]

Originally posted by Fuzzlebunny
I own a pretty average system and I play on pretty high details, I wasn't saying that people with low-end rigs shouldnt be playing ut2k4, I was wondering why the "competitive pros" who do nothing but whine about how useless all the eyecandy is, are playing the latest games where the eyecandy is a big factor.
I agree that there should be an option to turn the splashes off, I can understand that a lot of people don't like it and I dont have a problem with that, what seriously irks me is how people have no respect for the work epic puts into this and just grabs a chance to whine about it.

"I don't turn down all the settings to squeeze out extra FPS." - That means my original post regarding people who did, wasn't aimed particularily at you.

In that case, I owe you an apology. I'm sorry, man. I was just feeling a little irked about the whole thing. As someone who's having a tough time with the splashes myself, I felt it was a valid gripe, and it seemed like some people in this thread was declaring open season on anybody who wanted to be able to disable the effect without messing with their other settings--'STFU and suck it up, n00b', more or less. =/ So I reacted a little more strongly than I probably should've.

Believe me, I'm grateful that the guys at Epic have taken the time to listen to players (and not just the hardcore 'pro' minority here, either). The fact that they've made 2k4 feel more like the original UT was what got me hooked on it, after having been totally turned off by 2k3. (And for the guy who mentioned boostdodges earlier in the thread: Boostdodge is one of the things that killed 2k3 for me, and I'm extremely happy they nerfed it in 2k4. If that doesn't make me 'teh anti-pr0', I don't know what does. ;) Enough of that, though, before I derail the thread.) So at least in my case, it's hardly a lack of appreciation talking when I say I'm not too keen on the splashes. If people out there can play with that effect enabled and not suffer a performance hit, more power to 'em. Honestly, I think that it's the 'little guy' who isn't a hardcore player and doesn't own the most expensive gear (or play with all the details turned so low, the game looks like it's running on a Nintendo 64) that's most affected by this, not the '133t' types. I think that's what some of the other people in the thread are missing.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. Hopefully Epic'll address this in a future patch (or at least come up with a method of handling splashes that isn't a framerate killer on some peoples' systems--either way works, though just letting us turn off the splashes would probably be less trouble :) ). Sorry I was so quick to (over-) react.

[legacy-AngryAndroid]

Originally posted by Fuzzlebunny
Bahahahhaa :D
You sir is sigged.


Lol, a great honour :up:

:confused:

[legacy-ChampionOfGod]

Originally posted by pwnedism
heh epic just added it coz some morons here wanted watersplash that bad:)

You problably just plain blow at this game. There after you now feel the need to bash at the way long over due as well as owesome new water effects.:p

[legacy-Panama Jack]

The bottom line is there is really no fps loss when firing a weapon straight ahead or into water with a splash effect unless you are shooting at your feet with your nose stuck in the splash.

Guess what the same thing happens when you have ANY partical effect happen at your feet and you are looking at it. :P

These people just want to complain and can't even offer any proof that there is any frame rate loss unless they shoot at their feet. :p