DM-Refined

[legacy-1973]

DM_Refined
Version: 1.0
Compatibility: UT2004
Description: Southern skies and flying shrapnel-
DM style for 2-12 players
Homepage: http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/refinedmain.html

You can get the map here:
http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/refined.rar

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/RF1small.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/RF2small.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/RF4small.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelrice1973/RF5small.jpg

[legacy-Noz]

Looks pro!

Do change the post icon in the correct icon before you get banned though.

[The5thviruz]

That looks great. Downloading now.:up:

[legacy-punkrockaxel]

i normally dont download many dm maps... but i couldnt resist:D
looks awesome, must try:up: :up: :up: :up:

PS:dont include a RAR file inside a RAR archive

[legacy-subtlechaos]

There is also a required format for your release post ... you can find it here > http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=386477

Hope this helps

[Bort]

OMFG, Looks like a HL2 level :bulb:

Downloading now :up:

[legacy-catgoice]

Map looks amazing , love the texture on the factory :up:
downloading this for sure.

[legacy-F3nyx]

:eek: downloading.

[legacy-Carbs]

Curses. That looks amazing, but any chance of a .zip?

[legacy-kgb]

Looks incredible.

[legacy-Agroman]

That looks... fantastic...

EDIT: I just played it, and I have to admit I'm a bit suprised. Most realism maps don't tend to suit UT2004's fast pace, but this one plays nicely. Great work. :)

[legacy-Overzero]

Lovely map, plays very well, but there are certain areas you can get to which you should consider closing off and fixing.

http://www.overzero.f9.co.uk/dm-refined.zip
Here's a demo

[legacy-Hampel]

wow, very nice map! i also played frenetic burn... very nice atmosphere!

the frag.ops (http://frag-ops.com/) team needs good mappers, ever thought of doing a frag.ops map? you're very talented in styling urban maps - came just to my mind!!! :):up:

[NotoriousBIC]

I think this is by far the best playing and looking urban-style map I've seen for UT2004 (I could've missed a few of course ;) )

The barrels add to the gameplay alot and the sniper post is just brilliant :up:
Gameplay takes to the roofs pretty quickly with experienced players.

The windows, doors etc. could've used blocking volumes in front because you get stuck on them pretty easy. That would've made the flow of this even better imho.

I did find a little bug:
http://img2.IMGSpot.com/u/04/157/20/refined.jpg
I'm actually standing on an invisible volume there.

And what did Bert do?
http://img2.IMGSpot.com/u/04/157/20/Bert.jpg

[legacy-1973]

The map has been updated to address the collision issues
once you get to the roof areas. Follow the link above for it.
Since I was making the fixes, I added about 20% new areas
(on the roofs) and did some item tweaking. Snipers will like
the new changes. I hope the additions will accomodate for
having to download the map again :sour:

BTW thanks for all the feedback guys,
you've really made my weekend! :D
Its so rewarding to make something
people actually have fun playing...

:)

[Frogger]

anyone else having trouble getting this to run?? Ut crashes when i try to load it... and i don't see it from in game instant action..:confused:

[legacy-]|M|[_-sigma-_]]

Certainly a wicked map. Its my favorite urban style map for 2k4 hands down. I love the exploding barrels! Ive added it to my server and to my download section in our forum. If anyone wants to test it out head over to the following address. Server Password = Phobos

ut2004://64.94.171.234:5340/
http://www.cydonian.com/marsforum/portal.php

Ive made it available in ZIP format in our Download Section CLICK HERE (http://www.cydonian.com/marsforum/files.php?action=file&id=64), must be registered.
Review coming soon.

Well down Michael!

[Frogger]

Originally posted by ]|M|[_-sigma-_]
Ive made it available in ZIP format in our Download Section CLICK HERE (http://www.cydonian.com/marsforum/files.php?action=file&id=64), must be registered.
Review coming soon.

Well down Michael!

i get this when i try to register.. Column count doesn't match value count at row 1

(also,...may want to put map on redirect on your server)

[NotoriousBIC]

No problems here frogger.
Do you have all the textures as well? Perhaps you didn't have 'retain folder structure' for winrar on? (guessing

@1973: Great work, map's now in my mapvote too :up:
I don't really like how you blocked of that part I mentioned in my previous post, but it's no biggie.

I'll be playing this a lot :D

[Frogger]

Originally posted by NotoriousBIC
No problems here frogger.
Do you have all the textures as well? Perhaps you didn't have 'retain folder structure' for winrar on? (guessing

@1973: Great work, map's now in my mapvote too :up:
I don't really like how you blocked of that part I mentioned in my previous post, but it's no biggie.

I'll be playing this a lot :D

no.. had no tex files...:confused:

must unrar again.. thanks..

[legacy-1973]

Originally posted by NotoriousBIC


And what did Bert do?
http://img2.IMGSpot.com/u/04/157/20/Bert.jpg [/B]

Berts hit a run of bad luck lately,
involving a run of drunken bafoonery
ending with an assault on
Sesame Street co-star Ernie

When asked about the attack, Ernie shook his head
and said something pretty silly.

Bert has refused to comment on the incident.
:D

[Frogger]

Originally posted by NotoriousBIC
No problems here frogger.
Do you have all the textures as well? Perhaps you didn't have 'retain folder structure' for winrar on? (guessing

@1973: Great work, map's now in my mapvote too :up:
I don't really like how you blocked of that part I mentioned in my previous post, but it's no biggie.

I'll be playing this a lot :D

was using winace...winrar worked.. thanks...:up:

[legacy-]|MARS|[_-sigma7-_]]

Originally posted by frogger187
i get this when i try to register.. Column count doesn't match value count at row 1

(also,...may want to put map on redirect on your server)

dam thanks for letting me know. I'll fix that. And yes Map is already on redirect.

[Frogger]

okay..i feel dumb today... after using winrar..everything came through nice..

this map is sweet.... and in regular rotation on Arcade..:up: :cool:

[legacy-MisterC]

Nice map. Couple of things...

Needs some blocking volumes in the corners where the trees are. Easy to get stuck.

Compress the textures in your map and the texture packs to reduce thier sizes.

[legacy-Marumari]

Has anybody checked out this guys website? That stuff is amazing (especially UTpic #1, see portfolio)

[musilowski]

:eek::up:

[legacy-Algor]

Looks very nice, everything seems to fit into place.
Some things that bother me, the trim on the sidewalks sticks above the ground a few units... maybe round it out or make it flush.
And on the last pic the texture for the trim looks pretty blurry.
Other than that, great looking map.

[legacy-MagicalMonkey]

Gah! I need a zip file with no registering included! :sour:

[Frogger]

Originally posted by MagicalMonkey
Gah! I need a zip file with no registering included! :sour:

i have on my server (Arcade) if you want to pull it off my redirect and decompress

[legacy-Nuclear hazard]

This map is great:heart: :up:

just fix the skybox, depending of the point of view it is yellow and the map is already too yellow

[legacy-Hurricane]

Awesome map really has a fast gameplay and lots of sniper possibilitys. I really liked the exploding barrels easy way to take out 3 or 4 guys at once.:up:

[Xyx]

OMGLIEKCOOL: Someone finally made exploding barrels. :D Interactive maps are hard to find.
Looks realistic, in a good way.But also: Shadows are too deep. There should still be plenty of light in the shade in broad daylight (diffuse light bouncing off walls and the sky and stuff). I almost have to feel my way around when I step out of the sun.
It's kinda tough getting to second story spots. A couple of ladders/lifts would really improve flow.

[legacy-Nuclear hazard]

I hope to see more city themed maps from you 1973;) :up:

[legacy-DeadManWalking]

Nice map 1973 !! I Like the scaling and lighting. My only gripe is with some of the low-res textures used. Other than that, great. :)

[legacy-1973]

Originally posted by MisterC
Nice map. Couple of things...

Needs some blocking volumes in the corners where the trees are. Easy to get stuck.

Compress the textures in your map and the texture packs to reduce thier sizes.

Yea, I have a version where collision is 90% fixed-
kind of sitting on it as this was supposed to be done LOL
I was also thinking if I do release an updated version of this map
I would do a LOT of texture cleanup, compressing and
deleting all the unused **** in the packs.


Originally posted by Marumari
Has anybody checked out this guys website? That stuff is amazing (especially UTpic #1, see portfolio)

Thanks man!
I need to get my new page up, I have some
other/older UT2003 maps, BR maps and stuff that
I eventually want to update to 2004 and get online.


Originally posted by Algor
Looks very nice, everything seems to fit into place.
Some things that bother me, the trim on the sidewalks sticks above the ground a few units... maybe round it out or make it flush.
And on the last pic the texture for the trim looks pretty blurry.
Other than that, great looking map.


Thanks!
You mean you dont like that I actually raised all those damn
curb pieces exactly 1 unit????? :p
I was going to put terrain in...
that blurry trim wants to say he's sorry and should have never
been allowed to face a light source


Originally posted by Nuclear hazard
This map is great

just fix the skybox, depending of the point of view it is yellow and the map is already too yellow

Thanks man!-
In my latest version I have it now all pretty and
wispy- thought at one time about making this map a darker
time of day as well- but I like the idea of killing around
"business as usual"


Originally posted by Hurricane
Awesome map really has a fast gameplay and lots of sniper possibilitys. I really liked the exploding barrels easy way to take out 3 or 4 guys at once.

Man I really tried hard to make it all balance out!
Glad to see you liked it! Thanks!


Originally posted by Xyx
OMGLIEKCOOL: Someone finally made exploding barrels. Interactive maps are hard to find.
Looks realistic, in a good way.But also: Shadows are too deep. There should still be plenty of light in the shade in broad daylight (diffuse light bouncing off walls and the sky and stuff). I almost have to feel my way around when I step out of the sun.
It's kinda tough getting to second story spots. A couple of ladders/lifts would really improve flow.

I will take this into consideration in my next map-
lighting is a funny thing- unless you wander around a certain
ambience level lighting can look pretty different
machine-to-machine.
I'm glad you told me, I cannot stand areas that are too dark!
I did try to build some mood with the long shadow areas-
but this could have been easily made cooler with a single light
and effect- next map me make better!! :p

I took out most of the ladders as bots would not 100% use them correctly- and so in those areas where traffic would pile up I had
to make the decision to alternate the paths. I kept some
and prevented them from pathing; so no bot would look really
dumb on them, and in doing so i tried to even the odds against
the player (if they gotta jump you gotta jump)
BTW thanks!



Originally posted by Nuclear hazard
I hope to see more city themed maps from you 1973

Thanks bro! - one is on the way ;)
tackling a lot of detail **** right now- I think it will be
a better looking map, I just want to get the whole experience
together you know :bulb:
I hope it will feel authentic as well as have a good pulse,
and live up to your expectations! :D


Originally posted by DeadManWalking
Nice map 1973 !! I Like the scaling and lighting. My only gripe is with some of the low-res textures used. Other than that, great.

what, you mean those lil 128x64 building facades??? LOL
I'm trying to set the record for most unused and small textures
in a download ;)
Thanks man! :D

I'm sorry if I didnt hit every response-
I'd like to say thanks to everyone who
took the time to respond!!!
(and the next map will be in .zip format)

[legacy-SirJusticE]

Originally posted by Carbs
Curses. That looks amazing, but any chance of a .zip?


if you go to the beyondunreal home page you can download the Umod exstractor, ;)

[Emmet Otter]

Bots dont go into the 2nd story to get the deemer or sniper. They basically dont use the 2nd story at all, just where those boxes are by the one side of the one building for them to jump up which they have problems with.

[NotoriousBIC]

They do if you only have 2 or 3 bots.

[legacy-Super_Moose]

Looks awesome.
Plays pretty nicely.
Great map. :up:

[legacy-Salad Sammich]

I need to grab the newest version of this because I love it so much. :)

Quick question ...

Up by the sniper rifle, if you jump up on the small rooftop, you can fall behind the wall and be forced to kill yourself, because there's no way out. Did you fix that in the latest build?

Thanks for a great map,.
SS

[legacy-1973]

Originally posted by Salad Sammich
I need to grab the newest version of this because I love it so much. :)

Quick question ...

Up by the sniper rifle, if you jump up on the small rooftop, you can fall behind the wall and be forced to kill yourself, because there's no way out. Did you fix that in the latest build?

Thanks for a great map,.
SS

Thanks for liking it!
No, the collision area you are talking about is not fixed in the
latest available download, only on my local machine.
my goal today is to get my local version finished, which fixes
this and several other collision things, along with lots of small
tweaks and texture cleanup done, and put it up for download.
it might take a while, as I have other things to do today, so
it might not be done until tonight. I have to test,test test it
before releasing.
my apologies to anyone who fell behind the buildings like
SS!!!

[legacy-Salad Sammich]

Originally posted by 1973
my apologies to anyone who fell behind the buildings like
SS!!!

Hehe..thanks for the quick reply, and I look forward to checking out the newest build. There's just nothing like obliterating an opponent with exploding barrels.

-SS

[legacy-1973]

--grab the map from the same link in the original post--
this is still a .rar download, to retain any links that point
to it from gods knows where

fixed a lot of collision problems. Well, they
should really all be fixed now.
fixed skybox/fogging
added/ tweaked pathing - bots seem to behave
a little better as well
"flushed" curbing with grass
minor geometry changes
a couple new goodies put in :rolleyes:
file size down by a meg or two

and now I can hopefully abandon this thing and focus
on my new map :bulb:

[Frogger]

did you rename any of the files that changed? If not please do.

[legacy-1973]

Originally posted by frogger187
did you rename any of the files that changed? If not please do.

only thing really changed were textures in the mylevel pack

[legacy-snuff_]

Looks great and plays great too:cool:

[legacy-CBA`ken]

Looks like a nice Mohaa map :)

[legacy-: DX :-THeGAME]

I like this map alot.

The only suggestion I really have is to make the scale a little bit bigger. Judging the scale by charactor size, everything is pretty much within what you would expect it to be. However, to add more emersion, you have to add the movement into the scale. Higher roofs, a lil bit wider paths.

This is a great map, and one Ill be keeping for 1on1.

[legacy-1973]

Originally posted by snuff_
Looks great and plays great too:cool:
Thanks snuff- glad you liked it!


Originally posted by CBA`ken
Looks like a nice Mohaa map :)
MOHAA really? Thanks man-


Originally posted by : DX :-THeGAME
I like this map alot.

The only suggestion I really have is to make the scale a little bit bigger. Judging the scale by charactor size, everything is pretty much within what you would expect it to be. However, to add more emersion, you have to add the movement into the scale. Higher roofs, a lil bit wider paths.

This is a great map, and one Ill be keeping for 1on1.

Thanks DX
This map was a real test of scaling in UT2k4 (as you can imagine)
I learned a lot in building to this smaller scale around 2k4's gameplay and character abilities.
I'm really glad you like it-

[legacy-: DX :-THeGAME]

No problem man. The detail is excellent.

This map is right up there with Angelhearts stuff.

Keep mappin!

[Frogger]

Originally posted by 1973
only thing really changed were textures in the mylevel pack

yes, but this has been running on my server since it came out...if i change the version on the server and it has the same name..everyon will get version mismatch. Most don't know to clean their cache or delete old version from directory. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't release maps under the same name that are not the same. add v2 or something... no way i will add the new version because no one will be able to join.

just my $.02

[virax]

Originally posted by frogger187
yes, but this has been running on my server since it came out...if i change the version on the server and it has the same name..everyon will get version mismatch. Most don't know to clean their cache or delete old version from directory. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't release maps under the same name that are not the same. add v2 or something... no way i will add the new version because no one will be able to join.

just my $.02

Yes, I had that problem ALOT. I had to go in and delete it, and redownload it from your server... because I had the new version. :(

1973, all releases after a first release really do need to have name changes, as mismatches just suck.

[Frogger]

so i ended up downloading lastest and saving it as a different name to prevent any version mismatch...i suggest all do the same as it seems the two versions are very wide spread..and cause many to get mismatch errors

[legacy-Yournan2000]

makes a change to see a realistic industrial map:up: :up:

that truck reminds me of Sweet-tooth's ice cream truck in twisted metal black.

i like the lighting, i like it a lot some nice sunset colours in there:up:

MsM

[virax]

Originally posted by frogger187
so i ended up downloading lastest and saving it as a different name to prevent any version mismatch...i suggest all do the same as it seems the two versions are very wide spread..and cause many to get mismatch errors

Thanks! :D

[legacy-MXFoX]

Nice map, does not look like a refinary though, I know cuz I work in Conoco Phillips 76 Carson Plant
http://www.conocophillips.com/
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[legacy-CWFNY_N3M3S1S]

@1973

i just wanted to thank you for this fantastic dm-map! it's the best map available for ut2k4 so far:)

me and my buddy play this map almost every day 1on1 with the ut classic sniper mod. it's the most played map.:)

i just installed version 1.2 on my server:up:

i hope to see more maps like this:cool:

[legacy-NiTrOcALyPsE]

Bump on account of awesomeness, and also beause this took place nearly 18 months ago and the crowd is different now.

[legacy-Kinetik]

uber-bump

[legacy-[FnG]~pixie~]

Looks really nice, downloading now, is it a remake of the SAS Mod map by any chance, sure I recognise the pictures?...

[L4Y Duke]

This is an excellent urban map.

If only there were CTF, ONS and VCTF versions.