Past Pesent or Future

[legacy-GreyPhox]

I want to make a ninja/samurai mod and i was wandering when should i place the setting of the game. Please pick which setting you would like. After say why you would want it and something you would like to see in the game


Try and Post a reason behind what you voted, it helps me make better decisions in the game developement process.

IF you don't reply at least VOTE . I really don't want to make a game that nobody will play.

[legacy-Serious Hoagie]

Their are no ninjas and samurai in the future or present, DUH:bulb: noob

So you have to make it in the past, Unreal is futuristic enough, we need more bows and sword action!:cool:






And according to the poll.... 25% of the people want it to be in the past pout

[legacy-acc]

Futuristic samurai = 2 times the cool

[legacy-GreyPhox]

Well With the futuristic setting it would be more of an post apocolyptic deal where heavy technology and the martial arts blend together. mixing swords with guns ( very few guns maybe one or two on the large onslaught type maps.) with the ephasis on malee battle and throwing objects. the maps will be a mix between desolate cities and renovated ancient castles.... i got a few other ideas with the maps.

[musilowski]

Think of some samurais fighting in an alley. :D (Matrix Reloaded, anyone?)

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

good examples of why the future or present ones would work are

Tenchu: Wrath Of Heaven (Final Secret Level)
Metal Gear Solid: Sons of Liberty (Raiden anyone? or maybe the ninja!? XD)
not to mention you could have so many more possibilities in the future...and for anyone who REALLY wants the old school action, you could have missions that are in the Past theme...you could pass it off as a battle simulator program in the future (Animatrix)

[legacy-Dezro]

Just take your samurai to somewhere/when that samurai doesn't make sense. Like eskimo samurai or something. Or a samurai protecting an 11-year old Jesus!

[legacy-Serious Hoagie]

How about samurai mechs.... in SPACE!! :eek:

[legacy-Packy]

Battle Seizure Robots! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/blackeye/Eyecrazy.gif

... set in the future, of course. noob

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I'm so damn tired of all those "futuristic samurai" games. I suggest making a true to life samurai game from the past where you participate in actual events that happened. Instead of fighting giant robots or monsters. I mean come on!
There's alot of history that you could use as a base for your mod.
And it would be alot better than making something up about samurais who for some reason go to the future and fight some sort of giant robot.

If you really wanted I would contribute to the story.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Originally posted by Tsuji_Gettan
I'm so damn tired of all those "futuristic samurai" games. I suggest making a true to life samurai game from the past where you participate in actual events that happened. Instead of fighting giant robots or monsters. I mean come on!
There's alot of history that you could use as a base for your mod.
And it would be alot better than making something up about samurais who for some reason go to the future and fight some sort of giant robot.

If you really wanted I would contribute to the story.

Even though I said I liek the futuristic Idea, I have to agree with Tsuji, Classic Samurai games are rarely seen nowadays...the only ones I can really even think of are " Way of the Samurai 1 & 2" for Playstation2. Also, to clarify...I didnt mean future as in fighting robots and monsters, but fighting other humans, maybe mutated humans, in a near apocalyptic future....like the NeoTokyo mod setting kind of....the main reason I want the future one is because my character Im creating would finnaly fit the theme...

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v83/DurrySama/silveriusmugx.bmp

his name is Silverius and hes a Ninja with a highly advanced suit of armor codenamed "Dragon Skin". ^_~ V

[legacy-GreyPhox]

If i were to do a futuristic type setting i would deifinitely do a human vs human type deal. because I hate the whole fighting giant robots or slaying monster type thing. i want samurai vs ninja. nothing to flashy but with some tweaks....but i have to discuss it with my team. Tsuji wether or not we go past or persent or future would you like to help with the story? Either post on here or email me at forgottennightmod@yahoo.com

*EDIT* here's a place with a couple of my other ideas http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=371760

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I'd only help if it was past.

[legacy-BaymoJoe1563]

depends.
if u want it to look real (i know this is UNreal, but still) id do a past. but since this is UNreal, i would make it future.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Greyphox I replied to your PM, my main idea is since everyone wants it so much, we do past, and then once we have past out of teh way and we have the experience under our belts, we move on and do future\present...what do ya think? BTW if anyone in the community ever needs me or just wants to talk me e-mail address is Hardyboy75@hotmail.com and it is also my MSN messenger account...see ya later kiddies.

[legacy-GreyPhox]

One thing that we ran into is transportation on the larger type levels. In the all the settings we could use a hang glider because it can be realistic in all settings. But that's as far as we got. we came up with the suggestion of a horse but i don't it would feel right. and the only other one we had was a motorcycle but then that cuts the past setting cuz it would just be stupid. Just tell me what you guys think or you got something else.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

why woudlnt a horse be right? havent you ever played Dynasty Warriors?....anyway, on the other hand we could use a rickshaw...it could be like a little guy infront but the player actually controls it like a normal vehicle...but besides...when have you ever seen many vehicles in any old samurai settings?...I like the glider and the horses though...

[legacy-GreyPhox]

Well when playing Dynasty Warrior even the horse felt wierd riding it I dunno maybe it just me. There weren't ways of getting around, but it would slow down gameplay on a larger level with them especially if most of the weapons are malee weapons.

[legacy-VelvetRevolver]

Greyphox, I think you are my savior lol. First, you offer to maybe work on the model of Revolver Ocelot and now you make my samurai dreams come true.

The samurai culture is so full and rich that I'm surprised more people havn't even touched upon this. Anyways, I've always had an idea of a past, but not too past setting. It could be like the last samurai, where you have a bunch of traditional katana wielding samurai fighting modern samurai with revolvers and old single shot guns...

I don't know, something like that would be awesome. But yeah, I vote for the past...

[legacy-GreyPhox]

Well thanks.... I think i'm going to wait till I got 50 people voting in my poll so I can make my final decision. I want it to be a really good mod so I want to really put some though into it. I have a milestone for around a year for completion. I think that is about the time I start my Game Project 1 class at school.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Well...I have designed tons of concepts and Ideas for when you decide what you wanna do, like I said before I would love to be a part of the project no matter waht you decide...why?...BECAUSE ANCIENT CHINESE\JAPANESE SHIZNIT ROXXORS!!! :up: :D

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Ive been toying around with a few Ideas, let em know what you think Grey.

1. Gametype - "All for the Lord"
In this Gametype you have between 2-4 teams and each team has 1 randomly selected player each round that is the "lord" (not god, I mean like a king) and he glows with an essence (like dynasty warriors) and he is twice as strong as a normal player.The goal is to kill the other team(s) lord(s) while protecting your own. Also I figured if you had 4 teams, once a lord is destroyed his warriors could defect to one of the other teams for that round.

2. Misc - Classes
you could have different classes with specific moves\abilities I was thinking along the lines of; Samurai,Monk,Ninja, and Soldier. this leads to my next idea...

3. Misc - RPG style leveling
Kind of like the mutator that already out, exept fitted to our needs...I was thinking a player could have 1 dominant class and 1 sub class (so you could have a Ironfisted Monk with the ability to run along walls likea ninja) not to mention tons of skills, perks, and special moves!

anyway...let me know what you think...I have tons of Ideas and If you dont wanna use them, thats cool..I'll just release them at a later time...^_^

[legacy-GreyPhox]

That lords gametype you were talking about is almost identical to a omde i was thinking of, so we'll definitely use and refine that one.
As far as classes go i want to stick with just the samurai and the ninja but I want but i want to combine that idea with your lvl/progression idea and our lvl/progession ideas as well.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Grey, do you have a messenger program of any kind?, because as it stands we only get to talk 1 timea day, lol.

[legacy-GreyPhox]

I have msn, yahoo, and aol messangers but i prefern that we use msn to talk. my email is Hodjaballa21@hotmail.com

EDIT by the way what i s your email?

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

COME ON PEOPLE! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

[legacy-Major Lee High]

Ninjas and samari dont exist anymore, the ones that say they are arnt, even bruse lee said that trying to pull martial arts on people would just get you shot lol... making a present or future one just makes them look like poser ninjas etc.... Ohh look it me i dress like a ninja.

Futile japan!

[legacy-Dezro]

Bruce Lee is a kung foo guy. Ninja didn't know kung foo, they killed people. They were assassans who used the best tools available to them to kill. The best tool available now is a gun. Any ninja now would be an expert marksman, and if they knew any martial art, they would rarely use it.

For Samurai you've got a bit more of a point. Samurai were asswipes back then and the whole samurai thing in Japan now is a big fad where some kids decided to rewrite history so they could look cool. Like 'wiccans' in the US. However, swords are awesome, so there you go.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

a) being a "Ninja" just means youve been trained in the art of Ninjitsu, so yes they DO exist, and if you want some proof that Ninjitsu works in a fictional present\future setting go read any comics with the character "Deadpool" in them...
b) same goes for a samurai, and dude above this post, what do you mean they were *******s?...there were many kinds of samurai...those who devoted there life and loyalty to there lord, or rogue wanderers or even ones who worked for the government, and same goes for ninjas, some were backstabbing thieves, and some were honorable warriors
c) and about getting shot, using martial arts speed and grace could actualy SAVE you from getting shot...

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

Dezro is right about the ninja in the sense that they did use any technology available to kill, or brainwash people. And, QuickSilverQ is right that the art of ninjitsu does still exist, and work. To say:
"Any ninja now would be an expert marksman, and if they knew any martial art, they would rarely use it." is the dumbest thing ive heard..
they wouldn't be a ninja if they didn't use the art of ninjitsu. and why would they be marksmen?? just because they were stealthy and everything doesn't mean they would be marksmen. They would rather go behind someone and kill them with a sword or hand strike.
And Samurai's weren't asswipes, they were honourable people who fought to protect that honour.
Also please tell me who re-wrote history so they would look cool.

As you can tell I am very passionate about ancient Japanese history.

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I tried to make a Katana likething in Maya , looks alright. I wish I could show you a picture.

[legacy-sI_Dj_:p]

One word SteamPunk.

It would be great. A robot samurai facing off, and the blades are super sharp right? So that can cut the robots metal. You can come up with endles designs for a steampuck feudal Japan. Well, at least i can. :D

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

we need more votes on the poll!!!! Tsuji, just hit the Print Scr key and then go tto paint, and paste. Simple as kissing your finger as my teacher says...(hes 96 years old :bulb: ).

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I know that, I don't have anywhere to host the file.

[legacy-TehMackAttack]

Heres my 2-cents i think you should go present and it would work (look at kill bill) you could do the whole "grind-house kungfu" deal

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Originally posted by Tsuji_Gettan
I know that, I don't have anywhere to host the file.


www.photobucket.com

free signup and picture space, easy interface too! ^_^

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

MORE VOTES! NOW!...*goes back to sketching*

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Tsuji_Gettan/Katana.jpg
WOOT!

[legacy-GreyPhox]

We're almost there..... a few more votes then our team can makes it's final decision, A lot of people are voting for the future but none of them are leaving a good reason why... I guess we'll see in the final results.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

people...leave a reason for why you want what you vote for...Grey cant make a game for the fans if he doesnt know what they want....

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

Do you already have a team to work on this??

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

there is a current team...but Grey might still need more people...right now I beleive there is only 4 or 5 of us...

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I'd like to get in on this somehow.
;)

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

That would be cool, but I havent seen Grey in almost a day and a half...:bulb: ...and I hope to see him today...I have a new concept sword to show him...>.<

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

Cool!

I have a few ideas of my own iv'e been thinking of.
:D

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Past wins...w00t...Tsuji do you have msn messenger?

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

Yay! Go past!

Yes I do have messenger, my email is Cbullock_was@hotmail.com.

[legacy-GreyPhox]

I'm going with the past setting seeing as more people commented on how it would work better... I can't wait till it's completed i have so many ideas about this game

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Originally posted by GreyPhox
I'm going with the past setting seeing as more people commented on how it would work better... I can't wait till it's completed i have so many ideas about this game

I meant to ask you Grey, is it traditional "history" past or your own story set in a "past" age?...need to know so I can get the characters drawn better....^_^

[legacy->X<]

Are you going to make this mod???

some inspiration:
http://www.superiormartialarts.com/images17/82542.jpg
:D

Also, i don't know anything or even if this site is right. this gives some cool info on the weapons, knowledge, poisons, etc (general ninja stuff) www.entertheninja.com

:D

[legacy-Robert Halford]

Past "Pesent" or Future? Spellcheck, anyone? :weird: :noob: :confused:

[legacy-Pyrotechnic]

Yeah, how 'Past'? Past as in 1200 BC, or past as in 1200 AD?

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

There weren't any ninja's or samurai in 1200 BC so the setting will/should be around 1600 AD, which was when the samurai were fighting the ninja clans, which is the case here.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

yeah...but I meant if Grey was doing real history or his own made up history...:bulb:

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I think it would be better to do actual history.


The game could be set around 1600 AD when Lord Nobunaga ordered the Samurais to destroy of all the ninja clans.

[legacy-GreyPhox]

I would like to base this off of a real time in history but as being true, there is not much out there about the history of the ninja. of course we could use a real setting and add our story from there what do you think Quick?

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

I like it, sounds like a plan...wouldnt be to hard to create a semi realistic history for the Ninja anyway...^_~V

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

I could help!

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

lol, talk to Grey...

[legacy-Tsuji_Gettan]

Ok,
i'll probably send Grey and you an email with some ideas

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Hey Grey, havent seen you in a few days d00d, when are we getting this project further underway?...

[legacy-GreyPhox]

Sorry about being missing but i have to deal with some family affairs but when i get done i'll let you know when we'll start up again.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

ah, okay understandable...Hey Tsuji, send me the info you wanted to send...my e-mail is Hardyboy75@hotmail.com. Im gonna continue research and brainstorming while Grey is MIA =^_^=.

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

I guess I have the duty to keep this thread alive for now, uhhhh, If anyone is reading this, if you have anything you would like to contribute to this project (designs, ideas, code, models) feel free to e-mail me at Hardyboy75@hotmail.com or PM me, and of course, you will be credited if your material is used :)

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

Hey...ummm....dont be haten! XD

[legacy-GreyPhox]

I'm back now.... so now we can get moving I'm going to take this weekend to set everything up and we can get rolling once again

[legacy-QuickSilverQ]

awesome, e-mail me once everythings in order boss.