If UT2004 breaks my comp...I'm gonna sue

[legacy-peterpants06]

I'm so tired of this damn problem...every time i play after a random amount of time, the game crashes and all i can do is reboot. this is really upsetting and obviously not good for my comp. Please someone, i hope tech people actually read this cause this is terrible...many people have this problem... please tell us a SOLUTION. Thank you.

COMP:
AMD athlon XP 2500 (not overclocked)
GeForce 4 TI4200 128 MB AGP 8X
512 MB DDR
Windows XP Pro
120 Seagate: 7200 rpm, 8mb cache
Soyo Dragon KT Lite

[legacy-talios]

i dont think the tech people really exist, they're just a myth made up by epic to keep us pacified, i'v been emailing tech support since day one and i'v yet to get a response

[legacy-peterpants06]

seriously this is the worst costumer service in the world, i'm very unimpressed by atari, great games, no help...what are we to do? no one knows what to do and there is no way that i would want to wait for a damn patch. ANYONE OUT THERE? Do YOU HAVE A SOLUTION???

[legacy-acme420]

its impossible for software to destroy hardware dumbass.

[legacy-Z3 Roadster]

Actually software can destroy your computer. Its just not likely

[legacy-usernamenottakn]

quit your whining. Your computer crashing isnt hurting anything except your feelings. Why dont you try reinstalling the game/video drivers/sound drivers or even try using different versions of the drivers mentioned above. Run the game with lower settings on visuals. Basically, try a bunch of things to try to isolate the problem, you complaining about 'it not working' doesnt isolate anything.

[legacy-acme420]

Originally posted by Z3 Roadster
Actually software can destroy your computer. Its just not likely


id love to hear this...please do tell.

[legacy-Z3 Roadster]

Software can rewrite your bios, overclock your cpu or video card, change the refresh rate on your monitor until it gives out, blow speakers....should I go on? As I said before possible not likely. You said it CAN'T. I am just saying its possible.

[legacy-Tkmaster]

Originally posted by acme420
id love to hear this...please do tell.

actually if someone knows how to it can be done...

when the c-64 was out some companies made a copy protection that if you tried to copy it it will make the disc drive spin faster till it actually burns out


the people that it happened to sued and won.. basically because no company has the right to do anything that could cause damage to a computer...

but that saids its enough proof that software could be made to do harm to the computer...

[legacy-acme420]

Originally posted by Z3 Roadster
Software can rewrite your bios, overclock your cpu or video card, change the refresh rate on your monitor until it gives out, blow speakers....should I go on? As I said before possible not likely. You said it CAN'T. I am just saying its possible.

sure its possible but you would have to be a complete tard for it to happen.

you can reflash a bios, cpu automatically shuts down once it gets to a certain temp, if your monitor tries to display an unsupported res it shuts off, you can turn down the volume. i mean come the **** on.

[legacy-Z3 Roadster]

Its funny when people are wrong and cant admit it.

[legacy-Thaylen]

Originally posted by acme420
...if your monitor tries to display an unsupported res it shuts off...

Bzzzt. Wrong. Not necessarily. I watched someone try to get the MAME arcade emulator working on their PC and when they went to run it for the first time the settings file changed the monitor's refresh rate to one it did not support. The monitor immediately became a frying pan. A single line flickered across the screen and smoke plumed out the top of the monitor's vent. Dead. Kaput. Luckily it was under warranty and they got a replacement. Was my friend in the wrong for not checking the settings file before running MAME? Sure. But did the software destroy the hardware? Unless you don't know the difference between hardware and software, I'd say so. So anyway, you do know the difference between hardware and software, right, smart guy? Just checkin' ... "tard".

[legacy-barcode]

you guys are funny... have you checked your cpu temp upon reboot?

[legacy-acme420]

that musta been quite the sh**ty monitor. even the monitor that came with my first packard bell computer a 486 back in 1991 shuts off when it tries to use a higher refresh rate than it can display.

[legacy-peterpants06]

I'm really tired of you nerds bickering over retarded computer issues. Shut the f**k up and fix me comp. Godamnit. I'm still amazed how such a big fight over something so little broke out over the internet.

I don't know who said it first:
"Fighting over the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded."

PS: Please tell me you people know what it means to be frustrated and exaggerate. If you don't know that I was kidding baout the computer breaking in the first place I hear they have openings at Goodwill...

[legacy-DaPlayer1]

Originally posted by acme420
its impossible for software to destroy hardware dumbass.

that's what I was thinking before I came in here. I rebooted my comp a lot of times....sometime even before window loads...Kinda screwed around with overclocking... Even with 10+ reboots in less than 30 mins, my comp. is still good...

I don't think Epic games would create UT to destroy our systems after a certain number of reboots..

I'm only talking about reboots here.....

[legacy-Mosh83]

Originally posted by acme420


you can reflash a bios, cpu automatically shuts down once it gets to a certain temp,

What controls the CPU shutting down? The bios. And once the bios has been flashed...

Figure out the rest :)

[legacy-DaPlayer1]

Originally posted by Thaylen
Bzzzt. Wrong. Not necessarily. I watched someone try to get the MAME arcade emulator working on their PC and when they went to run it for the first time the settings file changed the monitor's refresh rate to one it did not support. The monitor immediately became a frying pan. A single line flickered across the screen and smoke plumed out the top of the monitor's vent. Dead. Kaput. Luckily it was under warranty and they got a replacement. Was my friend in the wrong for not checking the settings file before running MAME? Sure. But did the software destroy the hardware? Unless you don't know the difference between hardware and software, I'd say so. So anyway, you do know the difference between hardware and software, right, smart guy? Just checkin' ... "tard".

A cheap monitor. Even my old 3 yr old compaq monitor will not bust like that. It would just give me an out of range error or it'll just go blank.....i tried it outta curiosity...set it to 100 hz...

The closest thing i can think of how a software can destroy a hardware is oveclocking.

It's funny, but if anyone lets a piece of software destroy their hardware(s), stick with gaming consoles, so at least you won't have as many problems...

[legacy-DaPlayer1]

Originally posted by Tkmaster
actually if someone knows how to it can be done...

when the c-64 was out some companies made a copy protection that if you tried to copy it it will make the disc drive spin faster till it actually burns out


the people that it happened to sued and won.. basically because no company has the right to do anything that could cause damage to a computer...

but that saids its enough proof that software could be made to do harm to the computer...

I'm trying to think how this could happen.....so let's say i forced my copy/read speed to 12x, the program written by that company would be able to override the instructions programmed into the burner... Sounds rather complicated, but it's not impossible...So basically the copy protection was like a virus then.

[legacy-acme420]

alright yeah you could "theoretically" destroy...no destroy is too strong a word... severely disable a piece of hardware with software. lets move on

[legacy-Tkmaster]

Originally posted by acme420
alright yeah you could "theoretically" destroy...no destroy is too strong a word... severely disable a piece of hardware with software. lets move on

if software does something that would severly disable a piece would be considered destroyed....

if something is severly disabled chances are you wont be able to make it work anymore

[legacy-Dipso]

Oh just shut up guys, yea malichious software can be written, but you basicly have to write it to intentionaly harm hardware for something like that to happen.

This is not the subject of the thread, he is having broblems with the game rebooting on him, and that could come from a lot of different reasons.

He also seems to be worried that this might be harmfull to his computer, and i think we can safely say that is not the case.

Now for the problem solving.:
Is UT2004 the only game that has this problem?
What driver versions are you using with your GFX card?
Do you have the latest chipsett drivers for your motherboard installed?

[legacy-acrimonious]

Originally posted by peterpants06
I'm really tired of you nerds bickering over retarded computer issues. Shut the f**k up and fix me comp. Godamnit. I'm still amazed how such a big fight over something so little broke out over the internet.

I don't know who said it first:
"Fighting over the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded."

PS: Please tell me you people know what it means to be frustrated and exaggerate. If you don't know that I was kidding baout the computer breaking in the first place I hear they have openings at Goodwill...

These "god damn nerds" are the people who actually know something about computers, some of them might be able to help you, but with a brattish attitude like that, why should anyone?

UT2004 has been released internationally within the same short space of time, know how much strain that puts on a tech support team?

So your game doesn't run, so you haven't gotten tech support from a forum that isn't read or supported by tech people from Atari (you'd know that if you'd read the advice stickies at the top of the forum before posting), so you haven't got an email from Atari instantly?, join the club.

[legacy-mesazoa]

I had this problem with my motherboard, i couldn't play ANY game other than chess on my computer (obviously as it did not make use of the gpu).

A possible fix is to go into your bios and disable AGP fastwrite, I did that and wim-bam-boom now i can play games again.

p.s. The performance difference is neglibable