CTF-MobileArena

[Wowbagger]

This is my first map. (never heard that before huh? ;))

Altho ive been in this community even before Unreal was released, i have never made anything near a finished map.

After 2/3 of making this map i realised i had a bad FPS problem but thought zoning and "stuff" ;) would fix it.
It didnt , but i finished the map anyway just to be able to say, Ive made a goddamn UT map!!! :)

So, if anyone of you experienced mappers could have a look at it and give me some detailed (cause ive read and tried alot) advice i would be extremely thankful.

CTF-MobileArena (http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16111439/images/Maps/CTF-MobileArena.zip)

http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16111439/images/preview1.jpg


http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16111439/images/preview2.jpg


http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16111439/images/preview3.jpg

[legacy-Umbrella]

The Images are great!
I´ll grab it!

[legacy-drwhojm]

:eek: wow! that's your first map?!?!? that looks great! downloading now!

[legacy-Teddie]

wowbagger, looks awesome man.

For the fps issues though, did you try antiportals and distance culling?

[Wowbagger]

Thanks all.

@Teddie,
I divided the map in the middle with an AP and that worked pretty good but i couldnt find somewhere to hide it.

As for Cull Distance i guess you mean for the Static meshes?
Yea i have, but the funny thing is that it doesnt even matter if i delete ALL SM:s

Its like its too much BSP in that big open area?

[Yoshiro]

For some reason the map looks starwars ish to me. Very nice visuals.

[legacy-drwhojm]

i don't think it's too much BSP.... perhaps it's your lighting that's slowing it down? you did an excellent job lighting

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Nice looking map. But those floor textures on the upper and lower path surrounding the central part are misaligned. Same problem with the sidewalls of the same section. Also, I find it too plain on certain places.

[legacy-Happy_Hamburger]

very nice :)

[Yoshiro]

somebody tell me I"m not alone in thinking it looks starwarsish!


And once again, after I ran through it. Great lighting like was said before. Really like how this map looks.

[legacy-CTFX1]

Originally posted by Yoshiro
somebody tell me I"m not alone in thinking it looks starwarsish!


And once again, after I ran through it. Great lighting like was said before. Really like how this map looks.

uh, yeah it looks a little starwarish, but not overly so.

btw nice job for a first map, I was impressed mostly with the terrain, although I was a little disapointed the lava wasnt moving but to be quite honest that would have lagged the map completely out. I had 33 fps without bots avg (ouch!) but even still you can now say you've made a ut map :) oh and also I was really laughing my ass off about the three deadly fans you have, and espeacially the one under the deemer :D

[legacy-Dregs]

Standing at flag and looking towards other base was pretty intense: the triangle count was over 220,000 with average FPS of 11 (ATI 8500) w/7 bots in map.
http://www.charlestonengineering.com/af/basewoapss.jpg

Running "rmode 1" in console, I could see that just about everything was being rendered. I opened Editor, inserted 5 AntiPortals in the immediate wall (leaving doorways open/free) and 1 in the floor, recompiled, and re-entered map with bots. This time the triangle count was 140,000 and FPS average was 22.
http://www.charlestonengineering.com/af/basewapss.jpg

The improvement was significant. As you know, just a nano-inch of a mesh in view will render the entire mesh... and the center door of structure by flag just about allows every single mesh inside each base to be rendered (nothing to do to cure that other than redesign). However, an additional method to stop rendering meshes in other zones beyond our base is demonstrated in a tut by AngelMapper Level Optimization (http://www.unrealops.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=84&page=1) This is great information that every mapper needs to understand and utilize.

Hope this is useful info, Wowbagger.

[legacy-cold wolf]

Dregs, you are the man. i was just going to point this out to Wowbagger. a sudden drop in FPS right when you're 5 feet from the flag can kill ya and lose the game.

Wowbagger, the gameplay is off the hook, excellent job. i'd like to see a v2 with the level optimizations Dregs pointed out.

it's pretty clutch for a first. keep up the fine work, brah. i'm sure i'll be seeing this beaut on the net a lot when those optimizations are in

[CVROY]

Optimize this beaut!

This thing needs to be optimized, I know this will be one of the most played maps on my server:)

It's the flag area that needs the most work, gets chopped up real bad.

Other than that this map has great gameplay!

[legacy-dib]

This looks like a nice map unfortunetly it dosent work for me:cry:
I downloaded it but it wont launch and i put it in the maps part of my unreal tournement installation

[CVROY]

you might need the DE and Epic Bonus packs then.... I know you said unreal tournament.... but the folder should be Ut2003/maps directory... I hope your not trying it with unreal tournament 99 hee hee

[legacy-dib]

Could you give me a website for it?

[CVROY]

Make sure you have Ut2003 version 2225 before you install the bonus packs or it will mess things up a bit.

http://unrealtournament.com/ut2003/downloads.php

[Wowbagger]

Originally posted by Dregs
Standing at flag and looking towards other base was pretty intense: the triangle count was over 220,000 with average FPS of 11 (ATI 8500) w/7 bots in map.
http://www.charlestonengineering.com/af/basewoapss.jpg

Running "rmode 1" in console, I could see that just about everything was being rendered. I opened Editor, inserted 5 AntiPortals in the immediate wall (leaving doorways open/free) and 1 in the floor, recompiled, and re-entered map with bots. This time the triangle count was 140,000 and FPS average was 22.
http://www.charlestonengineering.com/af/basewapss.jpg

The improvement was significant. As you know, just a nano-inch of a mesh in view will render the entire mesh... and the center door of structure by flag just about allows every single mesh inside each base to be rendered (nothing to do to cure that other than redesign). However, an additional method to stop rendering meshes in other zones beyond our base is demonstrated in a tut by AngelMapper Level Optimization (http://www.unrealops.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=84&page=1) This is great information that every mapper needs to understand and utilize.

Hope this is useful info, Wowbagger.

Thanks alot :up:

Im in the middle of making another map atm but since people actually seem to like it ill try and make an optimized version :)

Thanks all for the kind words :up: