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legacy-Midiean
12-29-2003, 07:28 PM
Does anyone know if they are going to use a newtonian physics model for space combat in 2k4?:cool:

Raffi_B
12-29-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Midiean
Does anyone know if they are going to use a newtonian physics model for space combat in 2k4?:cool:
You just couldn't wait to say Newtonian, could you? :D

BTW, I have no idea what that is, so I cant answer :)

legacy-white_nite
12-29-2003, 09:47 PM
Dont they use Karma?

-=¤willhaven¤=-
12-29-2003, 10:08 PM
its like descent...

fly in all directions, etc.

legacy-red-pill
12-29-2003, 11:04 PM
yeah but if you stop pressing a direction will you continue to move
like in that old game, asteroids i think it was or do you just stop?

-=¤willhaven¤=-
12-30-2003, 12:25 AM
the space fighters have a minimum throttle value so you are always moving forward.

it would be too easy to destroy the mothership generators if you could stop in one spot and just shoot them :)

you can also strafe to a certian extent... and you can hold down jump and strafe to roll the ship. crouch will level the ship out.

Raffi_B
12-30-2003, 12:31 AM
Wait. Did Epic create all those static meshes, all those textures, all those turrets, and both the space fighters for only one map? :eek:

It gives a whole new meaning to "unique"

legacy-NickR
12-30-2003, 01:42 AM
Cheers Willhaven for the info on the ship controls. It was much needed. :)

My space combat mod will go ahead now knowing that the controls aren't complete crap and have had some thought put into them.

-=¤willhaven¤=-
12-30-2003, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Raffi_B
Wait. Did Epic create all those static meshes, all those textures, all those turrets, and both the space fighters for only one map? :eek:

It gives a whole new meaning to "unique"

yes the spacefighters (skaarj and human) are made for mothership only right now.

lots and lots and lots of statics and textures are in mothership as well and arent used elsewhere

convoy is almost entirely made of custom staticmeshes

glacier has quite a few custom geometry statics. it also has its own experimental vehicle :D

robot factory has new statics

fallen city was made, visually, by desp#2 (mothership) so its got quite a bit of new content as well.

the map with the smallest ammount of new content is junkyard. it uses junk piles that we already had. but there are SOME new statics in it. none that are overly-reusable IMO though. :p

the AS maps have tons and tons and tons of new content...

and yeah, the spacefighters should be a good base to work off of for a mod. you could toss those in a big open vast map and force players to spawn IN them. a space combat DM map...

so... yeah... mothership is almost its own gametype :)

legacy--Loric-
12-30-2003, 05:32 AM
argh willhaven stop teasing us... the wait is killing us here!!!

/btw do space fighters guns emit sound (since in vacuum that's not possible) ?

legacy-supernewbie
12-30-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by -Loric-
/btw do space fighters guns emit sound (since in vacuum that's not possible) ?

:bulb:

fun > realism

:p

legacy-Gusher
12-30-2003, 09:02 AM
With all the new flying spaceships I now I have a dream!

LawDogs for UT2004 will feature Space Cowboys! Chunks of old wood and killer chuckwagon spaceships!

Beware, here comes the Conestoga Wagon!

-=¤willhaven¤=-
12-30-2003, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by -Loric-
argh willhaven stop teasing us... the wait is killing us here!!!

/btw do space fighters guns emit sound (since in vacuum that's not possible) ?
of course they make sound... and fire...

and they have wings...

but who is talking any sense here?



Originally posted by Gusher
With all the new flying spaceships I now I have a dream!

LawDogs for UT2004 will feature Space Cowboys! Chunks of old wood and killer chuckwagon spaceships!

Beware, here comes the Conestoga Wagon!
you know. after you guys see how convoy is done... it might work well for the train chase gametype you planned. you could make a special horse type that appears to be running (but is actually stationary), and can only run forward and to the side... then you could have a kickass train chase map :)

think AS-Hispeed from UT1, with horse vehicles and a wider play area :D

Raffi_B
12-30-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by willhaven
yes the spacefighters (skaarj and human) are made for mothership only right now.

lots and lots and lots of statics and textures are in mothership as well and arent used elsewhere

convoy is almost entirely made of custom staticmeshes

glacier has quite a few custom geometry statics. it also has its own experimental vehicle :D

robot factory has new statics

fallen city was made, visually, by desp#2 (mothership) so its got quite a bit of new content as well.

the map with the smallest ammount of new content is junkyard. it uses junk piles that we already had. but there are SOME new statics in it. none that are overly-reusable IMO though. :p

the AS maps have tons and tons and tons of new content...

and yeah, the spacefighters should be a good base to work off of for a mod. you could toss those in a big open vast map and force players to spawn IN them. a space combat DM map...

so... yeah... mothership is almost its own gametype :)

:eek: :up:

Yoshiro
12-30-2003, 09:15 PM
Great stuff Willhaven, at Troopers we allready got our own TIE's up and working online and are quite pleased with what they can do. They roll, they have some yaw, and people can ride on the TIE wings, if the pilot can fly sideways good enough :P. Alot of the things you have we got. I will try and get pics up later other than the one we have floating around.



Oh yea will, talk with some people about UT2k3/4 mod teams getting a copy or two of 2k4 early to mess with.

legacy-Gusher
12-30-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by willhaven


you know. after you guys see how convoy is done... it might work well for the train chase gametype you planned. you could make a special horse type that appears to be running (but is actually stationary), and can only run forward and to the side... then you could have a kickass train chase map :)

think AS-Hispeed from UT1, with horse vehicles and a wider play area :D


Oh yes ah ya, now your talking Will......can't wait to get my hands on UT2004,,,,,,,

Even a Mississipi River Queen chase would very nice......