DM-CartwrightHall[FuT] (can't release until around January or after)

[legacy-Teddie]

Something I've been working on. Started around mid November.

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-cartwrighthall[fut]/DM-cartwrighthall[fut].gif
More screenshots and info... (http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/DM-CartwrightHall_redirect.htm)

UPDATE:

I won the contest. The news embargo was lifted on Friday the 13th, so I can tell you about the contest results now and also provide the download mirrors.
Download Mirrors:
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetunreal/funreal/dm-cartwrighthall_fut_.zip
http://www.unrealplayground.com/download.php?mapid=4811
http://utworld.gamesweb.com/downloads_ut2003/details.php?dlid=202 (Thanks Hampel for this one)
http://www.fasterfiles.com/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=886 (Thanks BB)
http://www.ut2003hq.com/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=3449 (Thanks Duffman)
http://finewolf.colute.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=25 (Thanks FineWolf)

[legacy-GOGETA_NL]

Originally posted by Teddie
It's complete but I can't release it until after January or sometime after that.

Have a great NEW YEAR everyone!

why! :eek:

oh and thanks, you too! :)

[legacy-Shadow of dead]

OMG :eek: looking sweet Teddie :) :up:
can't wait :)

[legacy-commander_keen1]

Originally posted by GOGETA_NL
why! :eek:

oh and thanks, you too! :)

im guessing it has to do with the release of ut2004, sence teddie is making a map for it.

[legacy-Teddie]

Thanks guys.


Originally posted by commander_keen1
im guessing it has to do with the release of ut2004, sence teddie is making a map for it.

CK, no no.

I submitted this map to a contest.

I don't want to release it until I find out the results.

This one has nothing to do with UT2004.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Now that is one awesome looking map. :eek:
Reminds me a bit of TO-Gallery. I can't think why though. :weird::p

[legacy-P1nky]

Wow looks amazing.
Your mapping has really progressed.

How about some higher res pics? :)

[legacy-digital orgasm]

Looks ace, hope it plays well but knowing your maps Teddie it will :)

Looking forward to trying this

[legacy-CTFX1]

holy s.hit that architecture looks absolutely stunning, not to mention realistic :eek: wtg cant wait to check it out.:up:

[legacy-cubic]

Hey Ted!

finally got back to mapping? thats great dude! screens are looking awesome as usual.

btw: how about Teddie rev3? :D

[legacy-red-pill]

hey teddie that map looks amazing is it the contest for the gamemaker magazine you are entering goodluck:)

[legacy-Gusher]

Looks like it was done in 3d Studio Viz........

Very realistically looking.......alot of realism mods prolly gonna want it.......:up:

[Kaimyr]

A great departure from your previous works! But it looks very stylish (the last shot :eek: ).
But how it plays and how many players can handle? From the shots I can't see any trace of z-axis :weird:...maybe a couple of more shots :D?

[legacy-birdofprey]

wow man that map looks awesome,,,, wish it was 2004 :D

[legacy-FizzyB]

was going to enter the same contest :) in the end i couldnt be bothered, good luck :)

[legacy-Shuri]

Can't wait Ted =)

[legacy-Devastation 8]

Looks great, can't wait to see more screens of it :). Great to see new maps by you Teddie.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Looks really impressive. Looking forward to its release... By the way what happened to DM-Saratoga?

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Hey Teddie, is that the Cartwright Hall in Manningham, Bradford? It looks like it could be from those shots. Just wondering if that's where you're from 'cause I too live in Bradford. Would be good to have some contact from a mapper living so close.

Edit: Just looked at your music website and seen you're actually from the US so I guess it's a different Cartwright Hall, lol. Ah well!

[legacy-BabyNuke]

That's real impressive mapping dude!

[Plumb_Drumb]

Sweet work dood!

screenies... so... tiny :cry:

[Wulf Sternhammer]

That looks fantastic Teddie. I saw the same competition in a few magazines but I thought that the photographs on the magazines disc were crap and I couldnt get my head around it. Cant believe youve made such a good job of this from the material supplied.

Spam Saviour: That is the Cartwright Hall youre talking about. I recognise it from the screenies and what pictures there were in PC Format magazines competition a few months ago, although I have to say that this map looks much better than the actual building in reality :cool:

Just coz Teddie's in the States doesnt preclude him from making a map of somewhere other than the US :haha:

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Ah right, so there was a competition to make a map of Cartwright Hall? Soz I've not seen the mag. So did they include detailed photographs of the layout and everything?

I wonder why they chose Cartwright Hall as a map venue?

I just thought that to make such a map of Cartwright Hall that you would have to have been there to get accurate building layouts and such.

Cracking map anyway by the looks of it. :up:

So where abouts are you from Wulf?

[legacy-red-pill]

hey spam yeah for the comp they gave yah the floor plans and about 100 refrence photos i cant remember what the prize is think its a p.c i think the closing date is in a couple of days and results are on 31st jan so will we see it then teddie?

[legacy-SealClubber]

I dunno man, this map looks too realistic to be true!

or even playable! looks amazing :)

[legacy-CTFX1]

Originally posted by SealClubber
I dunno man, this map looks too realistic to be true!

or even playable! looks amazing :)

nah knowing teddy it will be smooth as hell, he's like the optimizing king or something lol. Besides he's gotta make it playable on his own computer for his own pleasure playing on the lan with his wife, and from what I remember his pc isnt all that souped up.

[legacy-Teddie]

Hi folks.

I'll reply to your individual posts like I used to when I'm back at home.

I'm up in the mountains during the holiday with the wife and kids.

Need to get some sleep -- snow tubing tomorrow.

Thanks for your interest.

Stay safe this new year.

Be back first week in January.

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

All I have to say is:



:cry:

[legacy-Mysame]

just a feeling..
map seems pretty good but
look @ post above me
can't that be the guy from the general discussion who started to flame on A.M ?

[legacy-cubic]

hey Ted! Have fun!!! :up:

[legacy-The Warden]

Sweet looking!!!!!!


(as usual :up: )

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Be back first week in January.
Please be... With map uploaded. :D

[legacy-hfhf6]

w00t I like it teddie...

well i've already seen it, but its still nice! :up:

[legacy-Angelheart]

Glad I didn't get into this compo now. Teddie, you got to win :) Looks great.

[legacy-Kindness]

Looks like a winner to me. Good luck, Teddie. :)

[Wulf Sternhammer]

Ah right, so there was a competition to make a map of Cartwright Hall? Soz I've not seen the mag. So did they include detailed photographs of the layout and everything?

I dont know if the competition was repeated in other countries, but in the UK it was in PC Format magazine and Im almost certain at least 2-3 others. Obviously you can also get these mags overseas on subscription but usually they dont allow compo' entries from overseas. They had a disc with photos and a floorplan on the mag.

However, from Teddies screenies it looks like hes made it much to clean compared to the photos. Think "run down museum with lack of cash finance". Ive not been there but thats the impression I got from the photo's. Sorry for any offence to Cartwright Hall. ;)


I wonder why they chose Cartwright Hall as a map venue?

I dont have the mag to hand but seem to remember it being something to do with the people who work there are big 2K3 LAN gamers and have offered some prize to have a map made of their museum (Im gonna do this too with my house sometime - prize is a pair of socks and some used skids).


I just thought that to make such a map of Cartwright Hall that you would have to have been there to get accurate building layouts and such.

As above, plan and photos were provided but not good ones IMHO - and my job is to interpret designs, drawings & specifications to price works. Its better to have seen it in real life but not always crucial. However, for someone of Teddies ability with Max etc it probably wasnt tooooo hard to make something pretty close to reality.


So where abouts are you from Wulf?

Live in Reading, Berkshire, U.K (around 20 miles West of London), and work in High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire.

[legacy-Kill_For_Fun]

Wow thats some really nice photos ;)

(:eek: :eek: :eek: )

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

imho this should be a CTF map

[legacy-raziel31]

Very nice looking :up:

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
Live in Reading, Berkshire, U.K (around 20 miles West of London), and work in High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire.

Ah right, been to Reading a few times. My sister used to live in Basingstoke a few years ago.

Cheers for the low-down on the competition Wulf.

I think I'll pass on your house competition though ;) :p

[legacy-Gusher]

Has anybody played Hitman 2 ? I think that hall is there........it's magnificent.....and glamorous.....

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Its january... release the map already :o

[BesigedB]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Its january... release the map already :o

:haha:

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Do it or I will kill your dog :mad:

[legacy-De@thByPING]

suicide is never the right answer
:p

I'm looking forward to this one :) release already

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by De@thByPING
suicide is never the right answer
:p


lol.
hard to find, but the burn is permanent :D

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

lol.

[legacy-Kill_For_Fun]

I want some bigger screeeeens, pleeeeeease! :p

[legacy-Teddie]

Guys, I'm still in the mountains. Sore from skiing.

I promise when I get back home I'll post some bigger screens, reply to everyone individually.

Like I said, I'm waiting for the competition results before I release the map. I'm superstitous.

Hope everyone's New Year was (is) a safe and happy one.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

I honestly hope that competition you are referring to isn’t MUSC Phase 3... ;)

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Who cares about the bloody contest.... it will still be going on for another 4 months probably :mad: :down:

[legacy-De@thByPING]

such is life for a boiled egg.

cheers for the comment Teddie, may your knees survive and it be released soon :)

[legacy-CTFX1]

eh personally I love the competition's msu and teh cartwright hall because it encourages the community and some really awesome works have come out with the competition as a little bit of motivation.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Who cares about the bloody contest.... it will still be going on for another 4 months probably :mad: :down:
Professional support provider in a bad mood. :weird:

[legacy-Zimeon]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
Professional support provider in a bad mood. :weird:
ain't it Angel_mapper and not mapher ?:weird:

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Zimeon
ain't it Angel_mapper and not mapher ?:weird:
I know. I was just being sarcastic about MapHer not being able to provide decent support.

Go away now; you are ruining the point. :D

[legacy-.GI.Jew.]

Originally posted by Gusher
Has anybody played Hitman 2 ? I think that hall is there........it's magnificent.....and glamorous.....
Yeah, I've played it. Don't remember it tho :bulb:

[Wulf Sternhammer]

Surely if Teddie can afford to go skiing in the mountains for such a long time then he can also afford to employ someone to do his mapping for him while he's off getting 'piste'. I dunno - it's alright for some :rolleyes:

[legacy-Teddie]

lol. hi folks.

This map isn't for the msu. I'd get my ass kicked all over the place in the msu.

It's actually for a little competition I stumbled upon while surfing for p0rn (just kidding) but I did stumble upon it.

This one:
http://www.pcformat.co.uk/competition/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=19313&subsectionid=690

I've never been to Cartwright Hall (I live in VA, USA), so this was a hellish puzzle for me to put together from the photos that were provided.

I'll reply to everyone when I get back home.
My wife is giving me the "You're on the laptop again?" stinkeye.

She's still pregnant. You don't mess with a pregnant woman.

me poof gone,.

[EDIT] quick question though. Are some companies in the UK still on "Holiday"?

[legacy-CyberChrist]

All work submitted may be published and distributed freely by Future Publishing and Bradford Council.
Neat. Me = PC Format subscriber.


We reserve the right to substitute an equivalent prize of equal value.
That sucks. :D


Originally posted by Teddie
My wife is giving me the "You're on the laptop again?" stinkeye.
She's still pregnant. You don't mess with a pregnant woman.
You DON'T mess with a pregnant woman. You BUY her a laptop. :D

[Kaimyr]

lol, I can imagine their faces when they'll read the name of the author (it seems to me a contest mostly for first time mappers)! Anyway, hope your 'popularity' doesn't play against you... I don't know, maybe they want to prize some unknown talent (it happens sometimes in contest). About msu... for maps the first phase was imo the most difficult. For the second phase imo there are only two maps that deserve to win (CyberChrist, CTFX1, do you agree :confused: ?). For the third... who knows? But judging from shots CartwrightHall has imo FINALIST written all over the place! :D

[BesigedB]

Originally posted by Teddie
[EDIT] quick question though. Are some companies in the UK still on "Holiday"?

Big ones stay open over most of the holidays (sales etc) although smallers stores and independants will mostly reopen on the 5th.

[legacy-CTFX1]

Originally posted by Kaimyr
lol, I can imagine their faces when they'll read the name of the author (it seems to me a contest mostly for first time mappers)! Anyway, hope your 'popularity' doesn't play against you... I don't know, maybe they want to prize some unknown talent (it happens sometimes in contest). About msu... for maps the first phase was imo the most difficult. For the second phase imo there are only two maps that deserve to win (CyberChrist, CTFX1, do you agree :confused: ?). For the third... who knows? But judging from shots CartwrightHall has imo FINALIST written all over the place! :D

I dont know wich maps are in the 2nd phase :/ I went through them at one time before and checked them all out but I cant remember wich ones were good. I remember most of them were not very good tho. like you said mostly first time mappers. I think cartwrighthall looks absolutely stunning but is the gameplay there? espeacially is the z axis there? thats my question and it wont be answered until teddy releases it ;)

[Kaimyr]

Originally posted by CTFX1
I dont know wich maps are in the 2nd phase :/ I went through them at one time before and checked them all out but I cant remember wich ones were good. I remember most of them were not very good tho. like you said mostly first time mappers. I think cartwrighthall looks absolutely stunning but is the gameplay there? espeacially is the z axis there? thats my question and it wont be answered until teddy releases it ;)

NO!!! I've not said msu 2nd phase is full of n00b mappers!!! How can I DARE to say something like that? :bulb:
I was only guessing that probably the contest Teddie is mapping for now was probably created for first time mappers.

Anyway, there's a list of msu 2nd phase entries? I've said only 2 maps remembering more or less the threads posted here or at UP at the time. But probably there are a lot of good maps in the 2nd phase I've not tried or I don't remember. We'll see. ;)

[legacy-CTFX1]

ah ok I mis understood you then. There was a list I saw it quite some time ago cant remember where tho I think it was that one website where it has all those big fixes for various things like u paint and the ed, its an oficial website. I think ut used to link to it ingame. but ut2003 doesnt. but lately its been all about the msu contest.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

I can’t seem to recollect exactly which maps were submitted to MSUC Phase 2...
It is funny how people tend overrate their own abilities, especially time required for successful accomplishment of their task.
As for the gameplay for the upcoming map... It is Teddie we are talking about, guys...:D

[legacy-Teddie]

Okay, I'm back home. Hi. tired. sore.

I'd like to reply to the individual posts. See below.


Originally posted by GOGETA_NL
why!

oh and thanks, you too!

I've submitted it to a competition and I'm waiting on the results before releasing it.

You're welcome GOGETA_NL.


Originally posted by Shadow of dead
OMG looking sweet Teddie
can't wait

Thanks bro.


Originally posted by commander_keen1
im guessing it has to do with the release of ut2004, sence teddie is making a map for it.

CK, no no.

I submitted this map to a contest.

I don't want to release it until I find out the results.

This one has nothing to do with UT2004.

[EDIT] Sorry for the repeat reply. I'm trying to go down the line consistently.


Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Now that is one awesome looking map.
Reminds me a bit of TO-Gallery. I can't think why though.

Thanks Moose! If I had TO still installed, I'd check it out... too tired at the momo. But, yeah, Cartwright Hall is a gallery.


Originally posted by P1nky
Wow looks amazing.
Your mapping has really progressed.

How about some higher res pics?

P1nky! Hey, thanks man. This one was really fun to do. Really a crap-load of custom stuff in this one.

I'm working on getting those hirez pics up on my server. I'll update the thread when they're up.


Originally posted by digital orgasm
Looks ace, hope it plays well but knowing your maps Teddie it will :)

Looking forward to trying this

Thanks digital o.

I'm not sure it really plays well. I think it's faithful to the actual architecture, but...

I did take some subtle liberties with certain things so it would flow better. There were things in the photographs provided that would have stopped a player dead in a flow... no go. bonk.

I dunno. I have fun playing it while testing, but I'm not hard to please.


Originally posted by CTFX1
holy s.hit that architecture looks absolutely stunning, not to mention realistic wtg cant wait to check it out.

Thanks CTFX1. Good to hear from you. What are you working on now?


Originally posted by cubic
Hey Ted!

finally got back to mapping? thats great dude! screens are looking awesome as usual.

btw: how about Teddie rev3?

Thanks cubic. How is your mappack map coming along?

What's a TeddieRev3? Which map are you talking about?


Originally posted by red-pill
hey teddie that map looks amazing is it the contest for the gamemaker magazine you are entering goodluck

Thanks RP. It's for the PC-Format Mag contest, but yeah, I think it's gamemaker. The email address for the submissions has a domain of gamemaker.uk or something like that. Thanks for the good wishes.


Originally posted by Gusher
Looks like it was done in 3d Studio Viz........

Very realistically looking.......alot of realism mods prolly gonna want it.......

Thanks Gusher. I've gotten a few emails from some of the realism mods. It's nice to see some interest regarding this map.


Originally posted by Kaimyr
A great departure from your previous works! But it looks very stylish (the last shot ).
But how it plays and how many players can handle? From the shots I can't see any trace of z-axis ...maybe a couple of more shots ?

Thanks kaimyr.

It felt right testing with about 8 players.... or less. I think this map would really be better suited for a sneak and shoot environment... I dunno. The architecture in the map is, I think, very faithful to the floorplans I saw and the photographs (puzzle) that were provided, but with that, it's kinda flat except for certain areas. :(


Originally posted by birdofprey
wow man that map looks awesome,,,, wish it was 2004 :D

Thanks. It's 2004... but I they haven't downloaded the map yet. I checked my server logs. I submitted the map on the 27th or the 28th. But it was close to holiday, so I'm hoping they'll be able to grab it on Monday.

Thanks again.


Originally posted by FizzyB
was going to enter the same contest in the end i couldnt be bothered, good luck

Thanks Fizzy. I looked at those dang photographs for a while and told myself a few times that I wasn't going to bother with it.... The photographs are a freakin' puzzle. I couldn't make out where in the museum these things were being taken. Then one day I was looking at some of them that I printed out while I was on the can... and it became sort of clear and I started throwing it together in Ued... It was frustrating though not being able to visit the actual building.... frustrating. very. There are still areas and details in certain corners of rooms I have no idea if they're right or not.


Originally posted by Shuri
Can't wait Ted

Roger that, brother. I hope you won't have to wait too long.


Originally posted by Devastation 8
Looks great, can't wait to see more screens of it . Great to see new maps by you Teddie.

Thanks Dev8. I'm working to get those screens up tonight.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Looks really impressive. Looking forward to its release... By the way what happened to DM-Saratoga?

Thanks CC. I've been thinking about Saratoga. I put a lot of time into it so far. It will come sooner or later.

Thanks for your interest in it. It's one of my favorite maps that I've been working on, but my wife got prego and I stopped mapping and then this contest came up. My wife's computer blew up so it would be nice to win the compo because I'm gonna give her my current rig and use the contest rig...


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Hey Teddie, is that the Cartwright Hall in Manningham, Bradford? It looks like it could be from those shots. Just wondering if that's where you're from 'cause I too live in Bradford. Would be good to have some contact from a mapper living so close.

Edit: Just looked at your music website and seen you're actually from the US so I guess it's a different Cartwright Hall, lol. Ah well!

SS, yeah, I'm from VA. I've never been to Cartwright Hall, but after this map, I really feel like I've been there from staring at the photographs and doing research, etc. Yes, this is the Cartwright Hall in Bradford. Listor? Lister?


Originally posted by BabyNuke
That's real impressive mapping dude!

Thanks Babynuke. I replied to your email today.


Originally posted by Plumb_Drumb
Sweet work dood!

screenies... so... tiny

Thanks Plumb. Stay tuned for bigger screenies.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
That looks fantastic Teddie. I saw the same competition in a few magazines but I thought that the photographs on the magazines disc were crap and I couldnt get my head around it. Cant believe youve made such a good job of this from the material supplied.


Thanks Wulf. It was horribly frustrating trying to make heads-or-tails out of the photographs. A couple of the photographs I still don't know what/where the hell they were taken. Big puzzle it was.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Ah right, so there was a competition to make a map of Cartwright Hall? Soz I've not seen the mag. So did they include detailed photographs of the layout and everything?

They included floor plans. 3 paintings. And some photos of some of the rooms, etc. From this list of materials, you would think it would be pretty simple to recreate the interior, but it was really difficult, at least for me.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
I just thought that to make such a map of Cartwright Hall that you would have to have been there to get accurate building layouts and such.

Cracking map anyway by the looks of it.

It would have made things sooooo much easier if I could have visited for a day and walked around...

Thanks again.


Originally posted by red-pill
hey spam yeah for the comp they gave yah the floor plans and about 100 refrence photos i cant remember what the prize is think its a p.c i think the closing date is in a couple of days and results are on 31st jan so will we see it then teddie?

76 photos. and 3 scans of 3 paintings.

Oh damn, I just re-read your post. The results are on the 31st of Jan?

If I get an email from then sooner than that, I'll release it same day.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by SealClubber
I dunno man, this map looks too realistic to be true!

or even playable! looks amazing

Hi SC. The middle area with the statues of the women fighting was an optimizer's nightmare, but I really optimized the doo-doo out of this map, because it really really needed it. It plays well on my machine.

1.something ghz pent. 512 ram. GF4 4400.

Thanks for the kind words.


Originally posted by CTFX1
nah knowing teddy it will be smooth as hell, he's like the optimizing king or something lol. Besides he's gotta make it playable on his own computer for his own pleasure playing on the lan with his wife, and from what I remember his pc isnt all that souped up.

I tried my best on the optimizations. Did more cull distances this time than I usually do. Only thing, if a player is using a really wide FOV like 105+, some things will not show up properly.

What's the average FOV people use? I use like 85 or 90. Is it locked in multi-player? What's it locked at?


Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
All I have to say is:



:cry:

lol. You confused me with the alias.

Why are you crying? Don't cry.


Originally posted by cubic
hey Ted! Have fun!!!

Thanks cub. I'm back from all that fun, now I'm just sore and tired.


Originally posted by The Warden
Sweet looking!!!!!!


(as usual )

Bro Warden... hey man. thanks.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Please be... With map uploaded.

:( I'm back, but I can't yet.


Originally posted by hfhf6
w00t I like it teddie...

well i've already seen it, but its still nice!

Nice to see you hfhf6. YOu're in the readme.


Originally posted by Angelheart
Glad I didn't get into this compo now. Teddie, you got to win Looks great.

LOL. Hi Angelheart. Man, I was hoping you were too busy with other things rather than entering this contest. You would have whooped my ass, brother.

Thanks for the kind words.


Originally posted by Kindness
Looks like a winner to me. Good luck, Teddie.

Thanks kindness. Thanks was kind. Kind words ;)


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer


I dont know if the competition was repeated in other countries, but in the UK it was in PC Format magazine and Im almost certain at least 2-3 others. Obviously you can also get these mags overseas on subscription but usually they dont allow compo' entries from overseas. They had a disc with photos and a floorplan on the mag.



Yeah, I kept re-reading the contest rules to make sure I wasn't screwing myself.

"Terms and conditions

1/ The map must be your own, original work.
2/ All work submitted may be published and distributed freely by Future Publishing and Bradford Council.
3/ Employees of Future Publishing, Dell or Bradford Council, their agents or families are not permitted to enter this competition.
4/ No correspondence will be entered into. The judges' decision is final.
5/ Entries must be received by 30 December 2003, which is the closing date.
6/ No purchase is necessary. 7/ Only one entry per household.
8/ The names and contact details of entrants may be retained for marketing purposes, unless you specify otherwise.
9/ The winner will be the best entry as selected by our judges, and will receive a Dell Dimension 8300 PC.
10/ The winner will be notified by email or phone.
11/ We reserve the right to substitute an equivalent prize of equal value."


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer


However, from Teddies screenies it looks like hes made it much to clean compared to the photos. Think "run down museum with lack of cash finance". Ive not been there but thats the impression I got from the photo's. Sorry
for any offence to Cartwright Hall.

I really wanted to rip this place up. Just wreck it to shreds. But I felt so dirty after doing that. So dirty.

Actually, my wife said, "You should make the walls all bloody. I mean, it is a tournament with killing."

I said, "Are you mad, woman??!!!"

I dunno.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer

As above, plan and photos were provided but not good ones IMHO - and my job is to interpret designs, drawings & specifications to price works. Its better to have seen it in real life but not always crucial. However, for someone of Teddies ability with Max etc it probably wasnt tooooo hard to make something pretty close to reality.

Bro, it was horrible. I spent a lot of time weeping openly.



Originally posted by Kill_For_Fun
Wow thats some really nice photos

( )

lol. Thanks Killforfun.


Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
imho this should be a CTF map

Maybe I'll try that later on.


Originally posted by raziel31
Very nice looking

Thanks raziel.


Originally posted by Gusher
Has anybody played Hitman 2 ? I think that hall is there........it's magnificent.....and glamorous.....

Is it really? Wait, which Hall? Cartwright?


Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Its january... release the map already

Hope to soon.


Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Do it or I will kill your dog

Don't do that.


Originally posted by De@thByPING

I'm looking forward to this one release already

Soon De@th. I hope.


Originally posted by Kill_For_Fun
I want some bigger screeeeens, pleeeeeease!

Coming tonight.


Originally posted by De@thByPING
such is life for a boiled egg.

cheers for the comment Teddie, may your knees survive and it be released soon

[Ed,Ed,and Eddie]I like eggs![/Ed,Ed,and Eddie]

Thanks De@th. My knees are okay. It's my hands from gripping the poles, and my hips are f*cked. Er.. and my back.

I wiped out one time and my nose plowed the snow backwards and I got up and my son came down to me with his snowboard and I looked at him and I hocked out an ice cube type loogie. Not really a loogie, just a crap load of ice that was plowed up into my nose. It took my legs a long time to remember how to ski again, if that makes sense.


Originally posted by CTFX1
eh personally I love the competition's msu and teh cartwright hall because it encourages the community and some really awesome works have come out with the competition as a little bit of motivation.

:the thumbs up thing:


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
Surely if Teddie can afford to go skiing in the mountains for such a long time then he can also afford to employ someone to do his mapping for him while he's off getting 'piste'. I dunno - it's alright for some

/Teddie searches teh internet for the word 'piste".

lol. It sounds bad to me, but it's not.

off-piste
adjective of or relating to skiing on virgin snow off the regular runs


Originally posted by CyberChrist

You DON'T mess with a pregnant woman. You BUY her a laptop.

She is so content with her desktop pc. Although, at the momo, it's all blown up. Well, her "big" drive crashed to bits.


Originally posted by Kaimyr
lol, I can imagine their faces when they'll read the name of the author (it seems to me a contest mostly for first time mappers)! Anyway, hope your 'popularity' doesn't play against you... I don't know, maybe they want to prize some unknown talent (it happens sometimes in contest). About msu... for maps the first phase was imo the most difficult. For the second phase imo there are only two maps that deserve to win (CyberChrist, CTFX1, do you agree :confused: ?). For the third... who knows? But judging from shots CartwrightHall has imo FINALIST written all over the place! :D

Thanks for the kind words Kaimyr.

Honestly, I think I'm only well known for my mapping on this INA forum. In fact, only this particular section - the maps and mods section. You give me too much credit. And I'm still a n00b in my mind. So much more to learn.


Originally posted by BesigedB
Big ones stay open over most of the holidays (sales etc) although smallers stores and independants will mostly reopen on the 5th.

Thanks BB. Hopefully I'll see that they downloaded the map tomorrow after checking my web logs.


Originally posted by CTFX1
I think cartwrighthall looks absolutely stunning but is the gameplay there? espeacially is the z axis there? thats my question and it wont be answered until teddy releases it

I can't remember if I answered up there. It's kinda flat in some spots.


Originally posted by CyberChrist

As for the gameplay for the upcoming map... It is Teddie we are talking about, guys...

We'll have to see, CC. Some folks will hate it. Some folks might dig it. ;)

--

Ok.. I'm all typed out.

Thanks again folks. I'll put the screenshots up when I get them taken care of.

[legacy-digital orgasm]

Teddie is this map based on Cartwright Hall in Bradford, West Yorkshire, England?

[legacy-digital orgasm]

Teddie is this map based on Cartwright Hall in Bradford, West Yorkshire, England?

I'm from near there

Oops double post :eek:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by digital orgasm
Teddie is this map based on Cartwright Hall in Bradford, West Yorkshire, England?

I'm from near there

Oops double post :eek:

I think so.

Lister Park
Bradford
BD9 4NS

Is that the one?

[legacy-CTFX1]

I really wanted to rip this place up. Just wreck it to shreds. But I felt so dirty after doing that. So dirty.

Actually, my wife said, "You should make the walls all bloody. I mean, it is a tournament with killing."

I said, "Are you mad, woman??!!!"

I dunno.


:haha: oh thats awesome :D

well personally I'm STILL working on that damned Dm-ThorsHammer but it will be finished soon, I'm trying to put in some terrain but everytime I finish puting the package name and all that it crashes with a bug, hopefully that will be resolved soon, if not then I'll just make do without the terrain. But either way I will be starting a new map when I get my layout from carp, Its about darn time. I used to multi task like crazy like you teddy but it was just too much and I couldnt handle it so I deleted all the others and started DM-ThorsHammer. The next map should be MUCH quicker to make as I'm not going to delve into curves, it should be a much easier map to optimize as well. (i'm an optimizer n00b as is.) I have more than 100 fps in my map yet its still laggy, I think I'm not useing too many antiportals or something, or not useing them effectively.

--edit-- oh hey awesome solved the terrain problem working on it now my map is looking so much more awesome with terrain I think its the thing that's been missing in my mind that has not allowed me to release it yet :)

[legacy-digital orgasm]

Originally posted by Teddie
I think so.

Lister Park
Bradford
BD9 4NS

Is that the one?


Hehe it sure is!!!

Will be so wierd to DM on a map based on something so close to home :)

[legacy-De@thByPING]

what a guy :up:

which took longer, making the map or replying to all those posts?

:)

[legacy-CTFX1]

well trust me the map, but yeah he is a pretty cool guy I'm glad to know him. :) (well online anyways)

[legacy-cubic]

Originally posted by Teddie
Thanks cubic. How is your mappack map coming along?

What's a TeddieRev3? Which map are you talking about?

guess... ;) i'm talking about Teddie Jr. #3... mappack is coming along well atm... working on 3 or 4 maps... multitasking is great... :D :up:

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

http://members.cox.net/compwizard/shoot.jpg

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CTFX1
oh thats awesome

well personally I'm STILL working on that damned Dm-ThorsHammer but it will be finished soon, I'm trying to put in some terrain but everytime I finish puting the package name and all that it crashes with a bug, hopefully that will be resolved soon, if not then I'll just make do without the terrain. But either way I will be starting a new map when I get my layout from carp, Its about darn time. I used to multi task like crazy like you teddy but it was just too much and I couldnt handle it so I deleted all the others and started DM-ThorsHammer. The next map should be MUCH quicker to make as I'm not going to delve into curves, it should be a much easier map to optimize as well. (i'm an optimizer n00b as is.) I have more than 100 fps in my map yet its still laggy, I think I'm not useing too many antiportals or something, or not useing them effectively.

--edit-- oh hey awesome solved the terrain problem working on it now my map is looking so much more awesome with terrain I think its the thing that's been missing in my mind that has not allowed me to release it yet :)

Awesome bro. Update your thread with the update when you're ready. I want to check out what you've done.


Originally posted by digital orgasm
Hehe it sure is!!!

Will be so wierd to DM on a map based on something so close to home :)

Nice! I wish I could visit the building.


Originally posted by De@thByPING
what a guy :up:

which took longer, making the map or replying to all those posts?

:)

lol. The map. I think. ;)


Originally posted by CTFX1
... but yeah he is a pretty cool guy I'm glad to know him. :) (well online anyways)

You too man.


Originally posted by cubic
guess... ;) i'm talking about Teddie Jr. #3... mappack is coming along well atm... working on 3 or 4 maps... multitasking is great... :D :up:

Ahhh. damn, takes me a awhile sometimes. The baby's due in about 3 months from now. They're going to induce my wife if she doesn't deliver at the due date.

Good luck with your maps. Not that you need it with your skillz. ;)


Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
dog pic.

. er.. ok..

[legacy-Teddie]

hi.

ok.

Some better screenies:

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00060.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00066.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00067.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00069.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00072.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00074.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00078.jpg

http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/images/screenshots/DM-CartwrightHall[FuT]/Shot00081.jpg

More screenshots and info... (http://www.planetunreal.com/funreal/DM-CartwrightHall_redirect.htm)

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

I speak for all when I say this will the map of all maps :up:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
I speak for all when I say this will the map of all maps :up:

Thanks.

but... You can't tell much from screens.

Wait until I release it before you make your final decisions. You might feel the same, or you might feel dissapointed.

Thanks though.

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

I just like architetcually stunning maps thats all :o

[legacy-CyberChrist]

I find it quite hard to type with distractions provided in Teddie’s post. Anyway, as far as I can see Z-axis engagement is there and visuals are like nothing I’ve seen for UT2003...

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
I find it quite hard to type with distractions provided in Teddie’s post. Anyway, as far as I can see Z-axis engagement is there and visuals are like nothing I’ve seen for UT2003...

;)

Ok. Alec from PCFormat emailed me today. They have the map.

Now to wait.

[legacy-*7][e0Dor*]

very nice but i think those chairs/desks etc aren't very good for a fast paced action :\

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
very nice but i think those chairs/desks etc aren't very good for a fast paced action :\

I put blocking volumes around the benches/chairs.

You can run right over them without thinking about it.

EDIT: Unless you're talking about the inquiries desk, with the security monitor. There's only one of those right at the entrance to the central lower area. You can almost just run into the chair and step right up onto the inquiries desk, or just jump over it.... or around it.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
;)

Ok. Alec from PCFormat emailed me today. They have the map.

Now to wait. Estimated time? Please? Sir? :D



Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
very nice but i think those chairs/desks etc aren't very good for a fast paced action :\ From what I see map isn’t really crammed with tables and such...

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Originally posted by digital orgasm
Hehe it sure is!!!

Will be so wierd to DM on a map based on something so close to home :)

So just how close to home is this? Are you actually in Bradford. That's where I am. Been to Cartwright Hall a few times. Teddies map sure does look like the real thing from those screenies.

Teddie...

Fantastic work you've done there lad. I can safely say after looking at the screenies that it's the best looking map I've seen for UT2003 thus far. Can't wait to load it up and have a proper look at it.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

I’m just curious about the download size.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
Estimated time? Please? Sir? :D



They said they'd be doing the actual judging 2 weeks into January, so in all seriousness, about 2 weeks?


Originally posted by CyberChrist


From what I see map isn’t really crammed with tables and such...

Correct.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Been to Cartwright Hall a few times. Teddies map sure does look like the real thing from those screenies.


w00t. That's good to hear. Thanks.



Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Teddie...

Fantastic work you've done there lad. I can safely say after looking at the screenies that it's the best looking map I've seen for UT2003 thus far. Can't wait to load it up and have a proper look at it.

Thanks SS. Maybe just the best looking screenies. We won't know about the map yet ;)


Originally posted by CyberChrist
I’m just curious about the download size.

OMG it's huge. About 200MB+ zipped.

Just kidding. About 15mb zipped. Still big though. Everything's custom.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
OMG it's huge. About 200MB+ zipped.

Just kidding. About 15mb zipped. Still big though. Everything's custom.
200 MB? No problem, just give me a minute to overclock my modem... You were kidding? Never mind then... :D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
200 MB? No problem, just give me a minute to overclock my modem... You were kidding? Never mind then... :D

I'm hilarious. Yes or yes?

[Plumb_Drumb]

I was afraid the bigger screenies might reveal some crappiness, but that is not the case :up:
Looks great.

Shouldn't there be more casted shadows from all the pillars though?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Plumb_Drumb
I was afraid the bigger screenies might reveal some crappiness, but that is not the case :up:
Looks great.


Whew. :up:



Originally posted by Plumb_Drumb

Shouldn't there be more casted shadows from all the pillars though?

Plumb, I think you're right.

I wish I had more time to test this thing before submitting it.

I actually finished it and submitted it hours before leaving for the mountains.

I told them if they wanted me to change anything prior to CD distribution, I'd be glad to do so. So if they come back with something, I'll squash some sh*t. I dunno how that works though with these contests. I've never entered one....

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

So the whole thing took you about 1½ months to complete? Can you give us some idea as to the amount of new content you created? Like how many new statics, textures, etc.?

Were you mapping while still putting in the usual 9 to 5 at the office or were you mapping solidly all day every day? I'm just curious as to how long it takes me to map compared to someone else.

Cheers Teddie.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Spam Saviour
So the whole thing took you about 1½ months to complete? Can you give us some idea as to the amount of new content you created? Like how many new statics, textures, etc.?

Were you mapping while still putting in the usual 9 to 5 at the office or were you mapping solidly all day every day? I'm just curious as to how long it takes me to map compared to someone else.

Cheers Teddie.

I'd have to guess at the amount of custom meshes because I have them grouped up and it would be a pain to count them (unless someone knows how I can tally it easier).

Probably about 200 +- custom static meshes.

Maybe 400 or so custom textures? Maybe more/or less. I'm not sure. I know I did a lot of them. Most of the bulk is from all the paintings, etc.

I was mapping and putting in the usual 9 to 5, yes.

I almost didn't make the deadline though. I had to work some all nighters to get it done and still get my regular job work done.

The map was about 192 hours I estimate. I think.

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

200 custom meshes alone makes my jaw hit the floor with a heavy thud! Holy guacamole!

That works out at about 4½ meshes a day (or evening as you were working your usual job) plus about 9 textures a day, plus putting the actual map together precisely as the blueprints dictate.

That is some workrate Teddie! Were you doing this alone or had you some help from others?

What package are you using for your meshes? Max? Maya? Lightwave?

It's taken me about 4 times as long as you to make my level and I'm still not finished, plus I've had help. We've had lots of changes in direction though which don't help.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
I'm hilarious. Yes or yes?
What a coincidence! I think you’re hilarious as well! :D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Spam Saviour
200 custom meshes alone makes my jaw hit the floor with a heavy thud! Holy guacamole!

That works out at about 4½ meshes a day (or evening as you were working your usual job) plus about 9 textures a day, plus putting the actual map together precisely as the blueprints dictate.



Nah. It wasn't that big a deal. I didn't make many difficult meshes. In fact, I made a lot of the architecture with just a stick. It's amazing what you can do with a bunch of sticks. Sticks everywhere.

The hardest meshes for me to make were the statues of the women fighting and lemme see, and UV mapping the little curly crowns at the top of the some of the columns. You see, I used the actual photograph of the curly crowns to UV map the mesh... when I was done, I was running around the map looking up at the curlys. The center edges of the curlys ended up looking like vaginas. I had to change it a few times.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
That is some workrate Teddie! Were you doing this alone or had you some help from others?



Building the map? No. But I had a lot of help from friends that took UT2003 screenshots for me for the lower temporary galleries. I'm really grateful for their help. They're in the readme file.

The nice folks that took screenshots for me were:
1BIGDIRTNAP
BadAss84
Ben "Wolvish" Palmer
dAMIAn78
hfhf6
Ice
Jermaine_X
Meteor_of_War
omgOMGuybrush
Rene 'Darkus' Cook
The Warden
Tarnationsauce2


Originally posted by Spam Saviour

What package are you using for your meshes? Max? Maya? Lightwave?

Lightwave. I used poser and lightwave for the statues.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
It's taken me about 4 times as long as you to make my level and I'm still not finished, plus I've had help. We've had lots of changes in direction though which don't help.

Drink lots of coffee, bro.
[EDIT] but if your pregnant wife starts giving you looks, stop mapping and make her a sandwich.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
What a coincidence! I think you’re hilarious as well! :D

Roger that. But you are more hilarious. You are my hilarious friend.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Roger that. But you are more hilarious. You are my hilarious friend. We are hilarious. :D

[legacy-DeadManWalking]

Looks nice architectually, but gameplay wise it looks awful.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by DeadManWalking
Looks nice architectually, but gameplay wise it looks awful.

Exactly. This is a possibility.

I think it's pretty close architectually to the actual hall... but it made it pretty flat in areas.

Also, the upper areas are more open to flow which is cool.

The lower areas, not so much except in the central area.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by DeadManWalking
Looks nice architectually, but gameplay wise it looks awful. Why so?

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Originally posted by Teddie
but if your pregnant wife starts giving you looks, stop mapping and make her a sandwich.

At over 4 hours a day mapping I'm surprised your wife actually got to see you, lol.

I do feel guilty sometimes spending so much time mapping and not being with my wife though........but mapping is sooooooo cool ;) :D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Spam Saviour
At over 4 hours a day mapping I'm surprised your wife actually got to see you, lol.

I do feel guilty sometimes spending so much time mapping and not being with my wife though........but mapping is sooooooo cool ;) :D

Yeah. My wife's very understanding really and I'm grateful to be married to her. She plays UT2003 herself. She's pretty good.
[EDIT] She's really good with the LG. My nieces are too. I think girls are good with the lightning gun.

But she's been playing Myst URU lately.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

It seems like women have looks for everything these days... :D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
It seems like women have looks for everything these days... :D

She can burn a hole through me sometimes.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
She can burn a hole through me sometimes.
That sucks. :D Does it hurt?

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Teddie should compete against angelheart and see who wins the map of the year :o

[Kaimyr]

lol, just seen some paintings in one of the rooms! :D:up:

Anyway, been used so many meshes... did you use lightmaps? I'm not saying lighting sucks, but from shots many meshes seems so..., well, 'clean' (I think you know what I mean). I'm not an expert (well I've never made a static mesh, nor a map for that matter), maybe there's only a good amount of zone lighting?

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Teddie should compete against angelheart and see who wins the map of the year :o Read your post very carefully; you just might end up realizing what you actually said. :weird:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Teddie should compete against angelheart and see who wins the map of the year

I'd rather not. Angleheart actually inspires me. And my respect for his incredible work is such that I look up to him in that "I'm a n00b and you da man" kind of way.


Originally posted by Kaimyr
lol, just seen some paintings in one of the rooms! :D:up:

Anyway, been used so many meshes... did you use lightmaps? I'm not saying lighting sucks, but from shots many meshes seems so..., well, 'clean' (I think you know what I mean). I'm not an expert (well I've never made a static mesh, nor a map for that matter), maybe there's only a good amount of zone lighting?

I try so hard to learn the lightmap stuff.

I have not found a good "system" yet of doing them. I'd love some help in that area of learning.

I found one tutorial regarding lightmapping or baking, and I'm still clueless.

Anyone have good resources?

[legacy-*7][e0Dor*]

Originally posted by Teddie
I put blocking volumes around the benches/chairs.

You can run right over them without thinking about it.

EDIT: Unless you're talking about the inquiries desk, with the security monitor. There's only one of those right at the entrance to the central lower area. You can almost just run into the chair and step right up onto the inquiries desk, or just jump over it.... or around it.

mhh .. what about moving chairs etc near the walls?

just a suggestion ..

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
mhh .. what about moving chairs etc near the walls?

just a suggestion ..
Why?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
mhh .. what about moving chairs etc near the walls?

just a suggestion ..

There are blocking volumes around the chairs/benches that allow you to run right over them. They won't hinder your movement.

It will be like stepping up and then stepping down.

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Ok then.... desperado#2 versus angelheart :D

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Those statues are shameless! :D

[legacy-De@thByPING]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Teddie should compete against angelheart and see who wins the map of the year :o

I smell a wolf, maybe a white one LOL

[legacy-*7][e0Dor*]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
Why?

for better movement .. i know you can just walk aound them .. but ... imo it's better without ... maybe a LE :D

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
for better movement .. i know you can just walk aound them .. but ... imo it's better without ... maybe a LE :D You can walk over them. It will not affect player’s movement.

[legacy-*7][e0Dor*]

how can you walk over them? maybe jump or dodge ...

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
how can you walk over them?
By pressing forward key? :D

[legacy-*7][e0Dor*]

:bulb: :weird:






:p

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Teddie put blocking volumes around tables and such.

[legacy-Teddie]

Right, you can walk over them without thinking about it.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Right, you can walk over them without thinking about it. That’s odd. Everywhere I go I see tables. They’re haunting me! :D

[Wulf Sternhammer]

I smell a wolf, maybe a white one LOL

You called? :haha:

Teddie..how come youve got 2 WL points? You dont seem the kind! Been naughty sometime when someone was looking?

Anyway, those new shots of the map are really amazing. I can only say that if you dont win this competition then the one that does would have to be...well...err...totally really totally amazing - and thats just not possible, so you may as well start celebrating now :D

I dont know if you can help on this, but as Ive said before I copied the compo info from a coverdisk onto my PC. Well for some reason I have never been able to delete the files 100_0916, 100_0953 and 100_0955. Ive tried deleting them in DOS and in XP but they just dont go. Have you had this problem or got a solution?

Cheers,

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Teddie, I do hope you are aware that community will request release of KE version of the map...

[legacy-red-pill]

I dont know if you can help on this, but as Ive said before I copied the compo info from a coverdisk onto my PC. Well for some reason I have never been able to delete the files 100_0916, 100_0953 and 100_0955. Ive tried deleting them in DOS and in XP but they just dont go. Have you had this problem or got a solution?
hey WulfSternhammer i too have this problem when i right click there isnt even a delete option:down:

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Simple, just format your HDD. That'll get rid of 'em ;)

Sorry I know there was no need for that but just couldn't resist :p

Does it let you rename the files or move them to another directory? Do you get a reason why they can't be deleted (ie they are in use)?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
That’s odd. Everywhere I go I see tables. They’re haunting me! :D

Where? Run!


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer


Teddie..how come youve got 2 WL points? You dont seem the kind! Been naughty sometime when someone was looking?



I think I might have said something about my pen0r... I can't remember. I'm such a nice guy - how could *I* get WL points!!???

LOL. If I remember correctly though, I deserved them...

.....wait, it wasn't because I said something about my pen0r... I just remembered. I posted in an OT thread a long while back.................. about my pen0r, I think.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer


Anyway, those new shots of the map are really amazing. I can only say that if you dont win this competition then the one that does would have to be...well...err...totally really totally amazing - and thats just not possible, so you may as well start celebrating now :D

Oh, man... arg.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer


I dont know if you can help on this, but as Ive said before I copied the compo info from a coverdisk onto my PC. Well for some reason I have never been able to delete the files 100_0916, 100_0953 and 100_0955. Ive tried deleting them in DOS and in XP but they just dont go. Have you had this problem or got a solution?



Wulf, sorry man. I didn't install from the CD. I downloaded the zip from the web. That's weird about those files.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Teddie, I do hope you are aware that community will request release of KE version of the map...

What's a KE, CC?


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Simple, just format your HDD. That'll get rid of 'em ;)



Hence the name, "PCFormat". ;)

[Wulf Sternhammer]

hey WulfSternhammer i too have this problem when i right click there isnt even a delete option

Yep Red-Pill, thats exactly what Ive got - or not got! Its a damn long file name too, in fact the whole description has been used as the file name.


Does it let you rename the files or move them to another directory? Do you get a reason why they can't be deleted (ie they are in use)?

Nope. on right click I get the menu with "Preview, Open, Print, Edit, Open with... & Send To" options. Pressing delete key does absolutely nothing at all - not even a beep.

Its damnably strange. Ive tried any approach i can think of to rename them but cant.

So Teddie- whats so special about your "thang" that you felt the need to post it in a forum? Hold on, we're getting off topic on PenOr's now so forget I typed that. I like my 0WL's as they are.

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

It could well be because of the length of the filename or...

Does the name of the file end with a space " " or a period "."

If it does then you won't be able to delete it as the Win32 file naming convention doesn't allow filenames to end in those characters. Open up a command prompt and navigate to the directory where your file is and type 'dir /x' which will list the files short name. Then type 'del [shortname]' to remove the file.

If this doesn't work then what operating system are you running and is the file on a shared resource?

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Where? Run!
Where?!? They’re everywhere! :D


Originally posted by Teddie
What's a KE, CC?
That’s "Kids Edition". With statues excluded. :D

[legacy-CTFX1]

hmm gee I was thinking misspelled LE for luxery edition? ;)

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by CTFX1
hmm gee I was thinking misspelled LE for luxery edition? ;) He who pursues answers gains knowledge. He who assumes lives a life of deceiving beliefs. :D

[legacy-Hyd]

Teddie maybe you convert this map to RS3 Raven Shield ?? :}

[legacy-Drag00n]

Niiiiice can't wait to try that map out :D , wonder if that map would work as an assault map though? Hmmm Have one team try to I dunno steal some museum artifacts or something... or not lol. In any case good luck with the contest teddie hope you’re hard work pays off :)

[Sharpfish]

Teddie > Great job!!

The pictures blew me away when I saw them. Really amazing build quality and colours (subtle and tasteful). Some of the elements are similar to a map i`m working on for UT2k4 (honest Guv I didn`t copy ya! ) - Though I`m going to have to polish like mad to get it anywhere near as shiny as this golden nugget of construction! - You have done a masterful job on that side of things - again judging only from the screens.

well done! :up: :up: :up: 5 stars for this thread (It should have had them already!!)

Sharpfish

[Wulf Sternhammer]

On the 2K4 Assault thing, someone said they lived close to Cartwright Hall (sorry cant be bothered to look back at the posts) so maybe if Teddie wanted to do it then 'he' could e-mail Teddie some digital photos of the outside of the building?

Just a thought, but I reckon its a great idea :)

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Yeah I could do that if Teddie wants some photo's. Just let us know Teddie. :up:

Did you manage to delete those files Wulf?

[Wulf Sternhammer]

Nope. Nothing works. Im going out to buy a strong magnet soon!

It really p$**es me off that a pucker mag (which I get monthly)can be so stupid to allow something like that to happen, plus why is it that when they can be bothered to put a selection of 2K3 maps on the coverdisk, they dont have any (maybe at most a couple) good maps like we see round here or U.P? 98% of what they offer are maps youve never even heard of and with basically bad gameplay and visuals.

You'd think that the coverdisk bod or whoever sources the maps to put on the disk would contact decent mappers for permission to use their maps.

On the other hand maybe they have and got refused!!

Enough of the rant and thread highjacking.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Ok then.... desperado#2 versus angelheart

Send them an email and ask them to duke it out. Leave me out of it though.

You say the weirdest things.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Those statues are shameless!

Those dirty little statue women. Fighting each other, naked.

Actually they're not really naked on the real-life statue. But my poly count was going through the roof, so I left the clothes off. I think you like that, yeah? Dirty statue looker, you.


Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
for better movement .. i know you can just walk aound them .. but ... imo it's better without ... maybe a LE :D

You're killing me, bro. I keep saying, those benches, you walk right over them. They will not block your movement. If you are looking directly at the bench, and move forward to it, when you reach it, your player will AUTOMATICALLY step right over them. You do NOT need to walk AROUND them brother. [Teddie grabs 7][e0dor by the shoulders] They don't block you man!!! LOL. ;)


Originally posted by CyberChrist
You can walk over them. It will not affect player’s movement.

Right. Arg.


Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
how can you walk over them? maybe jump or dodge ...

Walk over them. Arg.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
By pressing forward key? :D

Right. Arg.


Originally posted by *7][e0Dor*
:bulb: :weird:






:p

ARGGH! LOL.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Teddie put blocking volumes around tables and such.

Right. Arg.


Originally posted by Teddie
Right, you can walk over them without thinking about it.

You are so smart.

Well, maybe not.... I just realized I already replied to these parts.

Okay starting here:


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer

So Teddie- whats so special about your "thang" that you felt the need to post it in a forum? Hold on, we're getting off topic on PenOr's now so forget I typed that. I like my 0WL's as they are.

Reported :o (just kidding)


Originally posted by CyberChrist


That’s "Kids Edition". With statues excluded.

I took the nipples off of the statues. Actually, they fell off during poly optimization. It's safe.


Originally posted by Hyd
Teddie maybe you convert this map to RS3 Raven Shield ??

Hi Hyd. I might do that later on. Is anyone still playing it? I had it, but removed it because it made my CPU crawl. Slide-show.


Originally posted by Drag00n
Niiiiice can't wait to try that map out , wonder if that map would work as an assault map though? Hmmm Have one team try to I dunno steal some museum artifacts or something... or not lol. In any case good luck with the contest teddie hope you’re hard work pays off

Drag00n, Possibly. I dunno.

Thanks for the good wishes and kind words.


Originally posted by sharpfish
Teddie > Great job!!

The pictures blew me away when I saw them. Really amazing build quality and colours (subtle and tasteful). Some of the elements are similar to a map i`m working on for UT2k4 (honest Guv I didn`t copy ya! ) - Though I`m going to have to polish like mad to get it anywhere near as shiny as this golden nugget of construction! - You have done a masterful job on that side of things - again judging only from the screens.

well done! 5 stars for this thread (It should have had them already!!)

Sharpfish

Sharpfish! Good to see you bro. Thank you for the very kind words. Means a lot.

When do you think you'll be done with the map you were speaking of? Can't wait to have a look.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
On the 2K4 Assault thing, someone said they lived close to Cartwright Hall (sorry cant be bothered to look back at the posts) so maybe if Teddie wanted to do it then 'he' could e-mail Teddie some digital photos of the outside of the building?

Just a thought, but I reckon its a great idea

I'd be up for that. Hell, I'd just like to see additional photos of the place... I feel like I've been there from building this thing. Be neat to see what I screwed up on. LOL.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
Yeah I could do that if Teddie wants some photo's. Just let us know Teddie.


SS, I'd like that. BUT only if you're going out to the gallery to enjoy yourself, with your girl or whatever. Don't go out there just to take pictures for me. Just if you happen to be there for the hell of it.

I appreciate your time.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
Nope. Nothing works. Im going out to buy a strong magnet soon!

It really p$**es me off that a pucker mag (which I get monthly)can be so stupid to allow something like that to happen, plus why is it that when they can be bothered to put a selection of 2K3 maps on the coverdisk, they dont have any (maybe at most a couple) good maps like we see round here or U.P? 98% of what they offer are maps youve never even heard of and with basically bad gameplay and visuals.

You'd think that the coverdisk bod or whoever sources the maps to put on the disk would contact decent mappers for permission to use their maps.

On the other hand maybe they have and got refused!!

Enough of the rant and thread highjacking.

That is so wierd about those files, Wulf.

Have you tried to contact them to see what the deal is with those persistant files?

Hope things work out.

[Sharpfish]

Originally posted by Teddie
Sharpfish! Good to see you bro. Thank you for the very kind words. Means a lot.
When do you think you'll be done with the map you were speaking of? Can't wait to have a look.


No worries, I can tell how much effort and execution skill went into the construction/appearance and I just wanted to make it clear that people notice that!!

As for my map/s - finished in the next month or two and not released until UT2k4 ships (as I want to check out new weapons and such - it will be a 2k4 map after all - though as they are backwards/forwards compatable the line will be blurred a little too much for my tastes )

*btw - how `bout throwing some blocking volumes on those benches *s******* :haha:

rgds
Sharpfish

* (attempt at humour for anyone who thinks I`m being serious)

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Dirty statue looker, you.
I’m not the one who took their clothes of! :D


Originally posted by Teddie
I took the nipples off of the statues.
I certainly do hope you did same thing with anu$es. :D

AAAH! Tables! Again! They’re tormenting me! :D

[legacy-Warbeast]

wow thats looking great make it night add some hard shadows and it could be a splinter ****ing cell 2 map :D

[legacy-CTFX1]

Hi Hyd. I might do that later on. Is anyone still playing it? I had it, but removed it because it made my CPU crawl. Slide-show.

gimme man! :D I've been interested in the game eversince I played the demo but have not bought it, probablybecause i know I will become fanaticly obsessed playing rvs and will cease to live life as I know it will be kaput. :rolleyes: but then again its possible your getting a new pc eh? Oh hell I should just go out and buy the damned thing.

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Teddie, I hope you will include a weapon against those cursed tables with your map. :D

[legacy-Noz]

That looks so realistic! Great work teddy, don't think i've seen better 'realism' maps. You should submit it to a mod like strike-force :).

[legacy-Robert Halford]

Lemme guess: two weeks until it released. :confused: :haha: :rolleyes:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by sharpfish
No worries, I can tell how much effort and execution skill went into the construction/appearance and I just wanted to make it clear that people notice that!!

As for my map/s - finished in the next month or two and not released until UT2k4 ships (as I want to check out new weapons and such - it will be a 2k4 map after all - though as they are backwards/forwards compatable the line will be blurred a little too much for my tastes )



The blurred line... Yeah, I feel the same way a bit.


Originally posted by sharpfish
*btw - how `bout throwing some blocking volumes on those benches *s******* :haha:

rgds
Sharpfish

* (attempt at humour for anyone who thinks I`m being serious)

ARg.. ;) funny man.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
I’m not the one who took their clothes of! :D

I certainly do hope you did same thing with anu$es. :D


lol. I don't know what to say. I have no comeback for the anus part.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
AAAH! Tables! Again! They’re tormenting me! :D

Arg.


Originally posted by Warbeast
wow thats looking great make it night add some hard shadows and it could be a splinter ****ing cell 2 map :D

Warbeast, thanks bro. Slinter Cell, I've got that game... I have yet to finish it. (note to self: Finish Splinter Cell.)

Hey, did Loosecontrol contact you?


Originally posted by CTFX1
gimme man! :D I've been interested in the game eversince I played the demo but have not bought it, probablybecause i know I will become fanaticly obsessed playing rvs and will cease to live life as I know it will be kaput. :rolleyes: but then again its possible your getting a new pc eh? Oh hell I should just go out and buy the damned thing.

R6 really played horrible for me. Has anything been done with optimizations for that game in the latest patches? I might install it again if so.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Teddie, I hope you will include a weapon against those cursed tables with your map. :D

A can of Pledge?


Originally posted by Noz
That looks so realistic! Great work teddy, don't think i've seen better 'realism' maps. You should submit it to a mod like strike-force :).

Some of the realistic mods have contacted me... I'm considering working this map over for one of them. I just don't know which one yet.


Originally posted by Robert Halford
Lemme guess: two weeks until it released.

Lol. The infamous "2 weeks". I dunno. I'm waiting on the magazine to contact me first... (if I win... I dunno).

Hey, you know the first thing I thought when I saw your name? Judas Priest. (old metal band for those too young to remember).

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
A can of Pledge?
No. Something like Chairs of Doom.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Originally posted by Teddie
Some of the realistic mods have contacted me... I'm considering working this map over for one of them. I just don't know which one yet.
Frag.Ops? :)

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Any news concerning the contest?

[legacy-GOGETA_NL]

Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Frag.Ops? :)

Hope not! It's a shame to waste a good map :D hehe

[legacy-Robert Halford]

Originally posted by Teddie
Hey, you know the first thing I thought when I saw your name? Judas Priest. (old metal band for those too young to remember).

Gee, "Love Bites" is a dead giveaway isn't it?
Well, back on tour with the J.P. crew, but until then UT all the WAY!!! :up:

[legacy-CyberChrist]

I think Halford left the band ten years ago...

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
No. Something like Chairs of Doom.

Can of Pledge is cooler and smells lemony.


Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Frag.Ops? :)

I haven't tried that one yet.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Any news concerning the contest?

Not yet. I don't think I won. Oh well.

I was telling my wife last night that if I didn't win, I'd be okay with it.

She said, "bullsh*t, Teddie".

She's so damn smart.


Originally posted by GOGETA_NL
Hope not! It's a shame to waste a good map :D hehe

Which tactical mod do you like personally, Gogeta? I think I've only tried FaceOff... I think.


Originally posted by Robert Halford
Gee, "Love Bites" is a dead giveaway isn't it?
Well, back on tour with the J.P. crew, but until then UT all the WAY!!! :up:

Are you him? Tell the truth Mr. Halford.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
I think Halford left the band ten years ago...

That's what I thought. Did anyone take his place? Is JP still making music?

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
Can of Pledge is cooler and smells lemony.
True. But Chairs of Doom can be used as aphrodisiac and they smell like strawberry. :D


Originally posted by Teddie
That's what I thought. Did anyone take his place? Is JP still making music?
Ripper Owens took his place. He contributed vocals for two studio and two live albums. Rob Halford rejoined the band quite recently.

[legacy-GOGETA_NL]

Originally posted by Teddie
Which tactical mod do you like personally, Gogeta? I think I've only tried FaceOff... I think.

Hmm the only mod I actively play is Red Orchestra, somehow I think this map won't be appropriate for it.

Personally I think this map would be great for SF2003 =) The mod is still in development though... but on the other hand I'm sure you have heared about the reputation of the famous SF_Optimizer.... hasn't been a mappers friend in the past =) See the link in my sig for the forums!

Else Domain 2049 looks rather good for the map as well :) www.domain2049.com I believe.

Do you want you think is right :)

/Gog

btw, when time comes I will probably port the map to sf2003 anyway with your permission :D

[legacy-CTFX1]

Originally posted by Teddie
Not yet. I don't think I won. Oh well.
I was telling my wife last night that if I didn't win, I'd be okay with it.She said, "bullsh*t, Teddie". She's so damn smart.

lol thats awesome, but really I'd be suprised if you didnt win, unless an oficial pro actually participated, or if that contest is racist lol.

I like the sound of your wife :D she obviously knows you inside out, I love that, being able to know exactly what someone else is thinking at any given time. Its freaky but cool.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CTFX1
... or if that contest is racist lol.

Nah. UK people like me. I like them.



Originally posted by CTFX1
I like the sound of your wife :D she obviously knows you inside out, I love that, being able to know exactly what someone else is thinking at any given time. Its freaky but cool.

Yeah, she can smell my farts before I even release them.

Spooky.

[legacy-E.Thomephone]

good but some colors in your lighting mkay?:cool:

[legacy-CTFX1]

I like U.K people too, from what I understand of their "culture" and not to mention rock music scene.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Can't stand em myself. :sour:

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Release it now :mad:

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Release it now :mad: Yes, we want you to fart. NOW! :D

[legacy-Teddie]

lol.

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
Yes, we want you to fart. NOW! :D

Atomic Fart!!!!!!



:D

[legacy-MSuomi]

Originally posted by Teddie

That's what I thought. Did anyone take his place? Is JP still making music? [/B]

JP was quiet for a long time after Rob left. Then they found a replacement Tim "Ripper" Owens and they published 4 records "Jugulator" (couple good songs, but not so good overall), Meltdown '98 Live (good live, some of the songs Ripper sings wonderfully and some not so good), Demolition (best "Ripper" record, I like it a lot) and Live In London (also DVD, haven't seen or heard, said to be somewhat "mellow"). Now Rob is back, new record is coming and a world tour too. There is also new DVD out (Electric Eye, which I own. Includes all Priest promo videos ever made, Priest! Live Dallas, Texas during the 1986 'Fuel For Life' Tour and BBC Television performances. Nice for old fans I think!). So there you go Teddie:D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by MSuomi
JP was quiet for a long time after Rob left. Then they found a replacement Tim "Ripper" Owens and they published 4 records "Jugulator" (couple good songs, but not so good overall), Meltdown '98 Live (good live, some of the songs Ripper sings wonderfully and some not so good), Demolition (best "Ripper" record, I like it a lot) and Live In London (also DVD, haven't seen or heard, said to be somewhat "mellow"). Now Rob is back, new record is coming and a world tour too. There is also new DVD out (Electric Eye, which I own. Includes all Priest promo videos ever made, Priest! Live Dallas, Texas during the 1986 'Fuel For Life' Tour and BBC Television performances. Nice for old fans I think!). So there you go Teddie:D


:up: Very cool! Thanks Msuomi!!!

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Atomic Fart!!!!!!
You just ruined a fine joke.

[BesigedB]

Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Can't stand em myself. :sour:

:(

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by BesigedB
:(

I hug the BB, my UK bud.

[EDIT] not in a gay way though.

[BesigedB]

Originally posted by Teddie
I hug the BB, my UK bud.

[EDIT] not in a gay way though.

You got the proof aswell :haha:

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Originally posted by BesigedB
:(
Have a look at my profile. ;)

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Can't stand em myself. :sour:

:down: Keep those kind of thoughts to yourself please.

Still no need to say bad things about people, even if u r from the UK. You can think it, just don't broadcast it on here.

Thanks.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by §uper-]V[oose
Have a look at my profile. ;)

LOL.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Originally posted by Spam Saviour
:down: Keep those kind of thoughts to yourself please.

Still no need to say bad things about people, even if u r from the UK. You can think it, just don't broadcast it on here.

Thanks.
LMAO.
It was a joke you nub. :haha::up:

[legacy-Yournan2000]

It looks a nice map teddie my friend, i can't really say much more because i've never heard or seen cartright hall, maybe because i live in the u.k.

Anyway it looks nice, but can i ask a question about axis play?At the moment i can't see much of it, but that might depend on the screens.

Any chance i could test it and i'ii give you some feedback?

BTW- Hows your other maps coming on?

MsM:up: :D

[legacy-Wolv34ine]

Hmmm, I think it is in the UK mate. Didnt someone say it was in Yorkshire?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Yournan2000
It looks a nice map teddie my friend, i can't really say much more because i've never heard or seen cartright hall, maybe because i live in the u.k.

Cartwright Hall *IS* in the UK.


Originally posted by Yournan2000
Anyway it looks nice, but can i ask a question about axis play?At the moment i can't see much of it, but that might depend on the screens.

There's a little bit. I was locked into the making it as close to the floorplans of the actual architecture... So, as I've said, it's a little flat in some areas.


Originally posted by Yournan2000
Any chance i could test it and i'ii give you some feedback?

At the moment, no. But thanks. I'm waiting on something.

Maybe later.


Originally posted by Yournan2000
BTW- Hows your other maps coming on?



I'm working on stuff. Not sure if I can talk about it, so for now. I'm just working on stuff.


Originally posted by Wolv34ine
Hmmm, I think it is in the UK mate. Didnt someone say it was in Yorkshire?

Hi Wolv,

Right, i think. Bradford, listor (spelling?)... something like that But definitely Bradford.

[legacy-Wolv34ine]

So if you win ( good luck BTW), your new pc will be air freighted to you I assume as its a UK PC mag competetion you have gone in for so thats an Englishmans pc your potentially winning!! LoL

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Wolv34ine
So if you win ( good luck BTW), your new pc will be air freighted to you I assume as its a PC mag competetion you have gone in for so thats an Englishmans pc your potentially winning!! LoL

I wonder if the plugs are different?

Are they?

[Wulf Sternhammer]

Yeah, we have propper Earth pins on our plugs :p

And it'll be a 240V AC 50Hz PSU adaptor too. I'll buy it off you for $5.00

[legacy-Wolv34ine]

Originally posted by Teddie
I wonder if the plugs are different?

Are they?

I think they are but it shouldnt cause a problem with the right adapter.:)

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

They used to have switches on the back of the PSU to regulate the voltage, but I've not seen them of late. I guess all you'd need to do is replace the PSU? or get a voltage adapter.

I'll go one better than Wulf and give ya $10 for it Teddie :D

If you don't win, Teddie, then its a fix !

[legacy-Yournan2000]

Originally posted by Teddie
Cartwright Hall *IS* in the UK.



There's a little bit. I was locked into the making it as close to the floorplans of the actual architecture... So, as I've said, it's a little flat in some areas.



At the moment, no. But thanks. I'm waiting on something.

Maybe later.



I'm working on stuff. Not sure if I can talk about it, so for now. I'm just working on stuff.

Its in Bradford, in the uk?What a friggin plank i am!

MsM

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
Yeah, we have propper Earth pins on our plugs :p

And it'll be a 240V AC 50Hz PSU adaptor too. I'll buy it off you for $5.00

What the adapter look like?

Is it just a different type of power cable with the converter between? Or is it a replacement PS?

$5.00. Ok. I'll ship it out to you if I win.


Originally posted by Wolv34ine
I think they are but it shouldnt cause a problem with the right adapter.:)

ok. I hope so.


Originally posted by Spam Saviour
They used to have switches on the back of the PSU to regulate the voltage, but I've not seen them of late. I guess all you'd need to do is replace the PSU? or get a voltage adapter.

I'll go one better than Wulf and give ya $10 for it Teddie :D

If you don't win, Teddie, then its a fix !

So maybe I'll need to replace the actual power supply... ok.

$10. Aha. You are zee winner.


Originally posted by Yournan2000
Its in Bradford, in the uk?What a friggin plank i am!

MsM

Ya big plank monkey. ;)

[legacy-Spam Saviour]

If you win, sorry WHEN you win, Teddie, just tell 'em where you're from and ask them to bung in a converter for you. They only cost like £5/$9 (and are available at most high street stores). :D

[BesigedB]

A converter would be a waste. Just ask for a more apropriate PSU - PCs like consistant power supplys :)

[legacy-omg OMG]

Stunning screenies Teddie, loking forward to that map very much!

:up:

Could you please post again the name of the people who provided screenies for the map? You know those 15 minutes of fame feel so good... ;)

btw and fyi Angel_MapHer = {SQ4}Antioçh/Packet£o§§/Kristina/§ilverWolf/-=WhiteWulf=- etc. :rolleyes: :sour:

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Originally posted by omg OMG


btw and fyi Angel_MapHer = {SQ4}Antioçh/Packet£o§§/Kristina/§ilverWolf/-=WhiteWulf=- etc. :rolleyes: :sour:

Why do you think anyone gives a ****? :bulb:

[legacy-De@thByPING]

lol, yep, that's him. :haha:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Spam Saviour
If you win, sorry WHEN you win, Teddie, just tell 'em where you're from and ask them to bung in a converter for you. They only cost like £5/$9 (and are available at most high street stores). :D

Eh, I'd feel like I was being greedy or something. I'll just buy one myself. No biggie.


Originally posted by BesigedB
A converter would be a waste. Just ask for a more apropriate PSU - PCs like consistant power supplys :)

I could do that. They're not that expensive. So it really is just the PS that is the difference between the regions?


Originally posted by omg OMG
Stunning screenies Teddie, loking forward to that map very much!

:up:

Could you please post again the name of the people who provided screenies for the map? You know those 15 minutes of fame feel so good... ;)



Hey bro. Sure, I'd be glad to:

THANKS:
Thanks to the following people for taking some of the UT2003 screenshots that are displayed in the lower galleries of the map:

1BIGDIRTNAP
BadAss84
Ben "Wolvish" Palmer
dAMIAn78
hfhf6
Ice
Jermaine_X
Meteor_of_War
omgOMGuybrush
Rene 'Darkus' Cook
The Warden
Tarnationsauce2

[legacy-SealClubber]

Teddie










got map? :confused:

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Originally posted by De@thByPING
lol, yep, that's him. :haha:

Still.... nobody gives a ****. Stop ruining a good map thread with the crap that comes outta ur mouth. :o

[legacy-The_Getaway]

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
Still.... nobody gives a ****. Stop ruining a good map thread with the crap that comes outta ur mouth. :o
hey ! watch your mouth ! you know the biggest troll in your sig ? it's gonna end up being you if you don't stop flaming ! it might be ot, but you have no right to talk sh*t for that !
great map ted ! and i'm not sure about the ps, it might not be the same voltage... if the ones in the us are on a higher voltage than the ones in europe, you might end up frying your prize :cry:

[Wulf Sternhammer]

Ive got a feeling the prize is a Dell notebook/laptop so that being the case then they sell them all over the world and the only thing I expect Teddie would have to do would be to go to the Dell website to order a USA PSU and then that'd be it. Im sure their tech support people would know.

People are always going abroad and buying kit cheaper and bringing it home so this cant be any different.

If all else fails, Teddie can just save it for use on one of his jet set holidays to the UK when hes richer and famouser.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by SealClubber
Teddie

got map? :confused:

SealClubber. Not yet. Sorry bro.



Originally posted by The_Getaway
great map ted ! and i'm not sure about the ps, it might not be the same voltage... if the ones in the us are on a higher voltage than the ones in europe, you might end up frying your prize :cry:

Thanks Getaway. Scarey about the voltage frying thing.


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
Ive got a feeling the prize is a Dell notebook/laptop so that being the case then they sell them all over the world and the only thing I expect Teddie would have to do would be to go to the Dell website to order a USA PSU and then that'd be it. Im sure their tech support people would know.

Nah, Wulf... They took the contest page down at the deadline time.

It's this:
Product: Dell Dimension 8300
Direct price: $3,604
Specs: 3.2-GHz Intel Pentium 4, 1GB 400-MHz DDR SDRAM, 200GB hard drive, 16X DVD-ROM and 4X DVD+RW drives, 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 17-inch LCD monitor


Originally posted by WulfSternhammer
If all else fails, Teddie can just save it for use on one of his jet set holidays to the UK when hes richer and famouser.

lol.

[legacy-Angel_MapHer]

Originally posted by The_Getaway
hey ! watch your mouth ! you know the biggest troll in your sig ? it's gonna end up being you if you don't stop flaming ! it might be ot, but you have no right to talk sh*t for that !
great map ted ! and i'm not sure about the ps, it might not be the same voltage... if the ones in the us are on a higher voltage than the ones in europe, you might end up frying your prize :cry:

STFU.

[legacy-Noz]

Nice prize :), however, the price they mention there is utter bull****. I can assemble that system for like 2000-2200 euro's.

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Noz
Nice prize :), however, the price they mention there is utter bull****. I can assemble that system for like 2000-2200 euro's.

I copied and pasted that from a computer seller's website... I think. so yea, could be completely wrong with the pricing.

I was just using the model info stuff from the PCFormat website a while back.

[legacy-CTFX1]

still its a decent rig, although mine is better mwa ha ha :D except my mobo hates all graphic cards :sour: that really sucks. wish you luck tho m8y I hope you do get that pc, I cant think of a more deserving mapper in this community. unfortunately contests dont work exactly that way : /. (I gotta stop contradicting myself sheesh!)

[legacy-The_Getaway]

Originally posted by Noz
Nice prize :), however, the price they mention there is utter bull****. I can assemble that system for like 2000-2200 euro's.
true... that's strange... although... I think its mostly the 17_inch lcd monitor...

Originally posted by Teddie
Product: Dell Dimension 8300
Direct price: $3,604
Specs: 3.2-GHz Intel Pentium 4, 1GB 400-MHz DDR SDRAM, 200GB hard drive, 16X DVD-ROM and 4X DVD+RW drives, 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 17-inch LCD monitor

:eek: Holy **** :cry: wish i had a pc like that... already got the radeon 9800 pro, but my pc's acting up, and i cant play games anymore... gotta format and reinstall stupid windowsXP :cry:
btw teddy i think you better ask a pro about your ps, cos im not 100% sure, but watch it cos it would be a shame to fry a pc like that...

Originally posted by Angel_MapHer
STFU

watch it man ! go on and you're gonna end up getting banned...

[legacy-Noz]

I'm using a 17" IIyama TFT screen (prolite e431s). It's pretty much the best screen available and it costs about 450 euro's in The Netherlands. So, they ain't that expensive :).

[legacy-Robert Halford]

Two weeks until the map is out?? :up: :haha: :haha:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by CTFX1
still its a decent rig, although mine is better mwa ha ha :D except my mobo hates all graphic cards :sour: that really sucks. wish you luck tho m8y I hope you do get that pc, I cant think of a more deserving mapper in this community. unfortunately contests dont work exactly that way : /. (I gotta stop contradicting myself sheesh!)

Thanks CTFX1,

Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about it if I win.

The rig they're giving away is much better than what I'm running now. (still running a PIII 1ghz)...


Originally posted by The_Getaway
:eek: Holy **** :cry: wish i had a pc like that... already got the radeon 9800 pro, but my pc's acting up, and i cant play games anymore... gotta format and reinstall stupid windowsXP :cry:
btw teddy i think you better ask a pro about your ps, cos im not 100% sure, but watch it cos it would be a shame to fry a pc like that...

Roger that about the ps. BTW, what is your current sys specs?


Originally posted by Noz
I'm using a 17" IIyama TFT screen (prolite e431s). It's pretty much the best screen available and it costs about 450 euro's in The Netherlands. So, they ain't that expensive :).

Noz, how do you like it for gaming?


Originally posted by Robert Halford
Two weeks until the map is out?? :up: :haha: :haha:

lol.

BTW folks, don't get too excited about this map, ok? It's really not that great. Just trying not to dissapoint. I think I started this thread way too early and the hype it's generating is concerning me.

[legacy-Noz]

It owns for gaming, there's no such thing as ghosting (i never seen it). It's sharper than sharp and the colors are very rich. I had to get used to it for like a week but after i used it for a week, never no CRT for me anymore.

The only negative parts are: i have 1 dead subpixel, alot of them are pixel perfect and some got dead subpixels but well. It doesn't really bother me. Then there is the resolution thing. The optimal resolution is 1280x1024, windows is no problem ofcourse but some games at 1280x1024 are a bit to much. That means turning of anti-aliasing or in game details. Lowering the res is also an option ofcourse. It works fine but the screen gets a bit blurry. It's not much of a problem in games but it still bugs me. Windows looks like **** if i wouldn't run it at 1280x1024.

So, if i play ut2k3 i turn off AA (you don't notice it while playing anyway) but i keep AF on. AF is worth alot more than AA imo.

My system is a overclocked amd athlon 2500+, it runs at the speed of which a 3500+ would run. My vid. card is a 128 mb radeon 9800 pro which i sometimes run at oc'ed settings but most of the time at default speed. With all this i still get slowdowns in some games at 1280x1024 with all on highest and AF + AA.

However, the benefits of a good TFT screen truly outweigh it's shortcommings.

I had a good crt before, 19" iiyama vision master pro but this tft blows it away :).

[legacy-The_Getaway]

Originally posted by Teddie

Roger that about the ps. BTW, what is your current sys specs?

im runnin:
SIS KT7A Motherboard
512Mb pc2100 DDR
1.8Ghz Athlon XP 2200+
Hercules ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb (me 17th b-day present :D)
17" inch screen (old, doesnt go aver 1024x768 :down: )
160Gb on 2 HDs50x cd (no dvd :( )

thats about it, i find with the radeon i can now run almost any ut2003 map and find it playable (1024x768 fsaa 4x, af 4x, all details maxed... "holy sh*t!!!!", lol)... not the case with my old card (geforce 3 ti500)
go on makin them purty maps, ted, especially with the new pc you'll (definately) win
good luck anyway, or "merde" as we say in france (i know, it means "sh*t", but we believe saying "good luck" actually brings bad luck, so we say "sh*t" instead... just my way of wishing you, lol :D )

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
BTW folks, don't get too excited about this map, ok? It's really not that great. Just trying not to dissapoint. I think I started this thread way too early and the hype it's generating is concerning me.
Well, you can always say they forced you under the threat of death to make the map and introduce it way too early to the community to generate hype that would eventually lead to your execution by an outraged community. It always works. :D

[legacy-CTFX1]

I'm not putting your map on a pedastal But I'm very impressed with your meshing skills. I'm just holding my hype in until you release it ;)

[legacy-Enigmabyte]

Meshes and lighting looks amazing and very realistic!

Can you release it yet?? ;)

[legacy-heedykeedypeedy]

he cant release it until the contest is over :mad:

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by heedykeedypeedy
he cant release it until the contest is over :mad:
He can. But he just doesn’t feel like releasing it right now. For some reason... If there is any... Regardless of the reason, you should respect his right to annoy all of us with consistent postponement of the map release. :D

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Noz
It owns for gaming, there's no such thing as ghosting (i never seen it). It's sharper than sharp and the colors are very rich. I had to get used to it for like a week but after i used it for a week, never no CRT for me anymore.

The only negative parts are: i have 1 dead subpixel, alot of them are pixel perfect and some got dead subpixels but well. It doesn't really bother me. Then there is the resolution thing. The optimal resolution is 1280x1024, windows is no problem ofcourse but some games at 1280x1024 are a bit to much. That means turning of anti-aliasing or in game details. Lowering the res is also an option ofcourse. It works fine but the screen gets a bit blurry. It's not much of a problem in games but it still bugs me. Windows looks like **** if i wouldn't run it at 1280x1024.

So, if i play ut2k3 i turn off AA (you don't notice it while playing anyway) but i keep AF on. AF is worth alot more than AA imo.

My system is a overclocked amd athlon 2500+, it runs at the speed of which a 3500+ would run. My vid. card is a 128 mb radeon 9800 pro which i sometimes run at oc'ed settings but most of the time at default speed. With all this i still get slowdowns in some games at 1280x1024 with all on highest and AF + AA.

However, the benefits of a good TFT screen truly outweigh it's shortcommings.

I had a good crt before, 19" iiyama vision master pro but this tft blows it away :).

Nice noz. What's a dead subpixel look like? Is it just black or what? What causes it so I don't do it to mine if I get one.


Originally posted by The_Getaway
im runnin:
SIS KT7A Motherboard
512Mb pc2100 DDR
1.8Ghz Athlon XP 2200+
Hercules ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb (me 17th b-day present :D)
17" inch screen (old, doesnt go aver 1024x768 :down: )
160Gb on 2 HDs50x cd (no dvd :( )

thats about it, i find with the radeon i can now run almost any ut2003 map and find it playable (1024x768 fsaa 4x, af 4x, all details maxed... "holy sh*t!!!!", lol)... not the case with my old card (geforce 3 ti500)


Aha, see. Your system kicks my system's butt... nice.


Originally posted by The_Getaway
go on makin them purty maps, ted, especially with the new pc you'll (definately) win
good luck anyway, or "merde" as we say in france (i know, it means "sh*t", but we believe saying "good luck" actually brings bad luck, so we say "sh*t" instead... just my way of wishing you, lol :D )

Thanks bro.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Well, you can always say they forced you under the threat of death to make the map and introduce it way too early to the community to generate hype that would eventually lead to your execution by an outraged community. It always works. :D

Haha. Roger that.... I really don't want anyone to expect much from this map, just because screenshots of other maps have dissapointed me in the past after actually playing the map yadda yadda etc. and that might happen here. Hell, I dunno. Damn me for releasing the screenshots so early.


Originally posted by CTFX1
I'm not putting your map on a pedastal But I'm very impressed with your meshing skills. I'm just holding my hype in until you release it ;)

Thanks man. Yeah, keep it off of that pedastal.


Originally posted by Enigmabyte
Meshes and lighting looks amazing and very realistic!

Can you release it yet?? ;)

Enigmabyte, thanks. Not yet. I'll explain why later.


Originally posted by heedykeedypeedy
he cant release it until the contest is over :mad:

I'll explain why later. No anger my friend.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
He can. But he just doesn’t feel like releasing it right now. For some reason... If there is any... Regardless of the reason, you should respect his right to annoy all of us with consistent postponement of the map release. :D

CC.. I can't release it yet. I'll explain later.

I apologize for this.

[Kaimyr]

Oh no, Loosecontroll6 AGAIN? :cry:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Kaimyr
Oh no, Loosecontroll6 AGAIN? :cry:

LOL. No. Not for this map at all.

But loosecontrol's got me for other stuff. ( I can't talk about that stuff).

I'll explain the delay on the Cartwright map though later...

[legacy-Noz]

A dead subpixel is one little dot on the screen which constantly stays one color, mine is green :/.

To avoid it ask for a pixel perfect screen, they might charge extra for that and there's always a chance that you get a dead pixel later on.

[legacy-The_Getaway]

Originally posted by Teddie

Aha, see. Your system kicks my system's butt... nice.


not for long, we all know you'll eventually get your hands on that pc, and then start pumping out more awesome maps ! :D



Originally posted by Teddie

Thanks bro.


welcome ! :up:


Originally posted by Teddie

Thanks man. Yeah, keep it off of that pedastal.


if ppl can't put your maps on a pedestal, i dunno if anyone deserves to have their maps put on one (ok maybe angelheart, lol), but seriously, on par with a few other great mappers (can't list them all here, i'll admit there's a bunch), you really contribute to keep this community going ! and kudos for that :up: .

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
CC.. I can't release it yet. I'll explain later.
I know. ;) I am just annoyed by general annoyance... But I love delays in general... :D

[legacy-kgb]

Hey Teddie
I admire your work so thats why I'm asking if you could explain your workflow. I'm not trying to copy or get the best way, because there is no one way to acomplish things. Just very curious and I love reading stuff like that of other artists. Thanks

[legacy-Kill_For_Fun]

Just a question Ted... when you make a map... do you make the whole map in a 3d program and then import it in parts to UEd or do you map it all in the UEd and then make separate meshes in a 3d program?
Oh and what 3d program do you use?

Just have to know! :D

[legacy-CTFX1]

I believe he uses lightwave, I think... I highly doubt he does all that stuff in a 3d package that would be too hard, and far too lengthy to make.

[legacy-heedykeedypeedy]

how freakin long is the contest gonna go on for!?! :mad:

[legacy-De@thByPING]

lol
It could all be a result of a cultural difference, in this country (UK) if you go for a job and don't get it, they don't write to you to tell you as a norm. You are contacted if you win though, so heres hoping for a June release ;)
Also fairness will be defeated by ease of job every time in this country, lol, if I was given the job of picking a winner and sending the prize off, that winner would live in the UK, I'd make sure of it :(

Anyway, Teddie, can't wait, whenever it is and good luck as always :)

[Sharpfish]

Originally posted by De@thByPING
lol
It could all be a result of a cultural difference, in this country (UK) if you go for a job and don't get it, they don't write to you to tell you as a norm.

Also fairness will be defeated by ease of job every time in this country


Ain`t that the truth! The U.K is getting sh*tier by the year :(

[legacy-De@thByPING]

I didn't know you were a blighty brighty m8, blimey at least we still have some talent in the country then.

:)

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by Noz
A dead subpixel is one little dot on the screen which constantly stays one color, mine is green .

To avoid it ask for a pixel perfect screen, they might charge extra for that and there's always a chance that you get a dead pixel later on.

Thanks Noz. I'll possibly look into that.


Originally posted by The_Getaway
not for long, we all know you'll eventually get your hands on that pc, and then start pumping out more awesome maps !

if ppl can't put your maps on a pedestal, i dunno if anyone deserves to have their maps put on one (ok maybe angelheart, lol), but seriously, on par with a few other great mappers (can't list them all here, i'll admit there's a bunch), you really contribute to keep this community going ! and kudos for that .

Well, thanks for the kind words. Means a lot.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
I know. I am just annoyed by general annoyance... But I love delays in general...

lol. ok.



Originally posted by kgb
Hey Teddie
I admire your work so thats why I'm asking if you could explain your workflow. I'm not trying to copy or get the best way, because there is no one way to acomplish things. Just very curious and I love reading stuff like that of other artists. Thanks

Thanks kgb.

It's different each time. The only thing that really stays consistent with my workflow is the planning.

I usually plan stuff out on paper while I'm sitting on the can. Everytime I sit on the can, I bring my notes with me and keep planning it until I'm ready to start building.

I have no real consistent workflow. I just plan it then do it. I just have to throw myself into it.

Although, I have a good tip for you. When you're building your map, if you get to a point where your just spinning your wheels trying to finish it; grab a pad of paper and go sit on the toilet. Make a big as$ check-list of things that need to be done to your map while your sitting on the can. When you get out of the can, try to stay focused on that checklist and just finish things on that list... Stay focused. If you can't stay focused, then it's time to break away from that map for a little while and do something else. Come back fresh.


Originally posted by Kill_For_Fun
Just a question Ted... when you make a map... do you make the whole map in a 3d program and then import it in parts to UEd or do you map it all in the UEd and then make separate meshes in a 3d program?
Oh and what 3d program do you use?

Just have to know! :D

Kill for Fun,

I do it in UEd and I make separate meshes in Lightwave (sometimes max).


Originally posted by CTFX1
I believe he uses lightwave, I think... I highly doubt he does all that stuff in a 3d package that would be too hard, and far too lengthy to make.

Correct. I'm trying to learn more of Max though. I feel it's less clunky. But LW is where I'm confortable at the moment.


Originally posted by heedykeedypeedy
how freakin long is the contest gonna go on for!?! :mad:

hkp. why the anger? ;)

You remind me of someone who's already posted in this thread. ;)


Originally posted by De@thByPING
lol
It could all be a result of a cultural difference, in this country (UK) if you go for a job and don't get it, they don't write to you to tell you as a norm. You are contacted if you win though, so heres hoping for a June release ;)
Also fairness will be defeated by ease of job every time in this country, lol, if I was given the job of picking a winner and sending the prize off, that winner would live in the UK, I'd make sure of it :(

Anyway, Teddie, can't wait, whenever it is and good luck as always :)

Thanks Deathbyping, after Friday Feb 13th.


Originally posted by sharpfish
Ain`t that the truth! The U.K is getting sh*tier by the year :(

I'm lost.


Originally posted by De@thByPING
I didn't know you were a blighty brighty m8, blimey at least we still have some talent in the country then.

:)

Many talented mappers are in the UK... All over really. Some really great mappers I speak with are spread out all over the place.

-------------

Anyway, thanks again folks.... watch this space, if you dig...

[Sharpfish]

Originally posted by De@thByPING
I didn't know you were a blighty brighty m8, blimey at least we still have some talent in the country then.

:)


very kind of you... lol

Yes I`m in the U.K Near Coventry( Actually In Warwickshire) where I have Codemasters and Rare (and blitz games) on my doorstep and no jobs for me ;) - In the US there seems to be many more oppurtunities.


Teddie> So what you are saying about your work methods is:

"if you cant, then the can can?" :)

I see a lot of toilet orientated efforts went into a lot of maps but never thought they would be in yours.

Heh, I have a `mapping` book but I usually doodle in that before sleep and `work` on my maps as I go to sleep (visualising stuff in my head) - when I`m awake I`m too busy actually doing the stuff to `think` about it - it`s the only chance I get. A few sketches ALWAYS helps make it clear where you need to go in a project.

However I do read MASSIVE computer books `in the can` (atm a C++ book and Lamothes 3d game programming book) they can keep you in there for far longer than is humanly ethical. ;)

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Teddie, if you delay map release once more, I promise to like your map once when it is released to show my admiration towards you and your aspiration to delay things and irritate everybody. That actually makes one person less to worry about. :D

[legacy-Robert Halford]

Okay, WHERE THE %#^$ is it? :confused:

[legacy-DarkHydra]

[melodrama]

Looketh at the people starving in the streets! Hunger for more Teddie maps is killing them... Hear them ask of thou: "OMG GIMME TEH MAP FFS!" Do not let us live and die in hunger and pain!


*bows*

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by sharpfish
Teddie> So what you are saying about your work methods is:

"if you cant, then the can can?" :)

I see a lot of toilet orientated efforts went into a lot of maps but never thought they would be in yours.

Heh, I have a `mapping` book but I usually doodle in that before sleep and `work` on my maps as I go to sleep (visualising stuff in my head) - when I`m awake I`m too busy actually doing the stuff to `think` about it - it`s the only chance I get. A few sketches ALWAYS helps make it clear where you need to go in a project.

However I do read MASSIVE computer books `in the can` (atm a C++ book and Lamothes 3d game programming book) they can keep you in there for far longer than is humanly ethical. ;)

Do the Can-Can.

Seriously, I really really am comfortable writing and drawing up plans on the can.

I have a stack of architecture books on a small bookshelf next to the toity.


Originally posted by CyberChrist
Teddie, if you delay map release once more, I promise to like your map once when it is released to show my admiration towards you and your aspiration to delay things and irritate everybody. That actually makes one person less to worry about. :D

lol. What if you truly don't like it? It will pain you to act like you like it. So I cannot accept your promise because I care about you.


Originally posted by Robert Halford
Okay, WHERE THE %#^$ is it? :confused:

18 days exactly. Seriously.



Originally posted by DarkHydra
[melodrama]

Looketh at the people starving in the streets! Hunger for more Teddie maps is killing them... Hear them ask of thou: "OMG GIMME TEH MAP FFS!" Do not let us live and die in hunger and pain!


*bows*

That was beautiful, DH. - Applauds -

[legacy-DarkHydra]

18 days? *marks calendar*
:eek:

[legacy-DukeMaster]

That looks GREAT !!!!:D

[BesigedB]

in four days it will be TWO WEEKS

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by DarkHydra
18 days? *marks calendar*
:eek:

What day is that? Saturday? hmm.


Originally posted by DukeMaster
That looks GREAT !!!!:D

Thanks DukeMaster!


Originally posted by BesigedB
in four days it will be TWO WEEKS

Aha! Yes. From when?

[legacy-CyberChrist]

Originally posted by Teddie
lol. What if you truly don't like it? It will pain you to act like you like it. So I cannot accept your promise because I care about you.
Well, isn’t that coincidence! I care about myself too! So, I wouldn’t suggest my deliberate and intentional defiance of the fact that your map is true disappointment if I am certain it will reflect excruciatingly. Also, I care about you too, so it would be really agonizing experience to watch you suffer over my sworn agony because I am in denial of horrible truth. I am certain I will endure potential disappointment upon eventual release and public denial. :D

[legacy-bkansas]

The infamous 2 weeks............

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by bkansas
The infamous 2 weeks............

aha! bkansas, good meeting you in the Epic chat yesterday.

[legacy-thelonecrouton]

Teddie, those screenies look awesomely true to life. I can confirm their veracity as I has the misfortune for several years as a kid to live about 200 yards from Cartwright Hall...

Seeing it again years later here was as spooky as hell...

Have you done much/any of the surrounding grounds/lake etc?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by thelonecrouton
Teddie, those screenies look awesomely true to life. I can confirm their veracity as I has the misfortune for several years as a kid to live about 200 yards from Cartwright Hall...

Seeing it again years later here was as spooky as hell...

Have you done much/any of the surrounding grounds/lake etc?


Ah, so it *does* look like it sorta? Nice. Thanks for that.

The outside grounds. Not too much detail at all has been done out there.

I did the nice little flowered area out front with the statue in the center... Some trees, yadda yadda.

[Sharpfish]

Looking at it logically, unless some 'secret-super-elite' mappers happened to enter that compo, I`ve heard/seen nothing from anywhere else, then THIS map has got to win (like I said in the Epic chat last night Teddie, in case you wondered what I was yakking on about). I`ve been to your site a few times, looked at the screens again and it really is stunningly detailed - god knows how you kept it quiet for so long. Anyway don`t want to jinx you or anything or be naive about things, but I just can`t see how this could fail to win (unless above conditions apply which I doubt), and if you do loose I`d file an appeal if I were you ;)

fingers crossed - :up:

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by sharpfish
Looking at it logically, unless some 'secret-super-elite' mappers happened to enter that compo, I`ve heard/seen nothing from anywhere else, then THIS map has got to win (like I said in the Epic chat last night Teddie, in case you wondered what I was yakking on about). I`ve been to your site a few times, looked at the screens again and it really is stunningly detailed - god knows how you kept it quiet for so long. Anyway don`t want to jinx you or anything or be naive about things, but I just can`t see how this could fail to win (unless above conditions apply which I doubt), and if you do loose I`d file an appeal if I were you ;)

fingers crossed - :up:

;)

We'll see.

[legacy-De@thByPING]

Don't worry Teddie, if you don't win all us UKers will just keep sending the mag old fish in the mail :)

No need to thank us :)

[legacy-SealClubber]

Is this a actual DM map or os this just a show off type thing? :weird:

[legacy-drwhojm2]

so when's this bad boy gonna be available?

[legacy-Teddie]

Originally posted by De@thByPING
Don't worry Teddie, if you don't win all us UKers will just keep sending the mag old fish in the mail :)

No need to thank us :)

lol. ok.


Originally posted by SealClubber
Is this a actual DM map or os this just a show off type thing? :weird:

Ah, yeah SC. A little bit of both. A little less of one. A little more of another. Equal yet unequal parts of the middle.

You might not like it. Or you might. I hope for the latter.


Originally posted by drwhojm2
so when's this bad boy gonna be available?

Hi doc.

Friday the 13th or Saturday the 14th.