UT2k3 doesn´t start anymore!!!

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

:cry: :cry:
When i try to start,it loads and than stops and goes back to windows!!!
This sux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is the problem:

<?int?Udebugger.General.Abbreviation?> Build UT2003_Build_[2003-04-07_17.42]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1675 MHz with 255MB RAM
Video: No Video

General protection fault!

History: MainLoop


!!!! What to do now????????
I have got
AMD athlon xp 2000+
Ti4200 with 44.03 detonator
Via Hyperion 4.48
Maxtor 40 gb
WinXp Pro with servicepack1 Direct X 9.0a

What to do????? I can´t play this game!!!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-SC_JONi]

Have u tried to reinstall UT?

[legacy-Mysame]

Originally posted by SC_JONi
Have u tried to reinstall UT? idd reinstall :)
its again mainloop **** :bulb:

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

It tried to reinstall,to delete the user or the ut2003.ini and more,but i doesn´t want to start!


This sux!:cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-191]

did this happen after you updated your video drivers, if so, please go back a version and try the game again.

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

well,this could be the reason,i have the 44.03 and have also problems with RTCW:ET,well i´ll try this and tell you,if something changed!;)

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Well i installed an older one,but it doesn´t help,have the same problem! :cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-191]

Does it help if you run the game in OpenGL ?

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

I tried,well no! :cry: :cry:
And the support suxs,i wrote a mail,but i had no respons on it ,i wrote this mail today in the early morning!

[legacy-191]

well i don't know anymore, maybe try experimenting with some drivers and settings to get it to work and just wait for a mail back.

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

:cry:

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

THE **** support wrote an answer and guess what it was??
Install new drivers!:mad: :mad:

[legacy-serverboy]

After uninstalling use regedit and poke around your regestry for old UT2003 entrys. Windows does a horrible job of removing regestry after uninstallation. My guess is that theres a bad reg file or uncompatible settings stored in your regestry.

I hope this helps

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Have done,doesn´t work,what the **** is going on???:cry:

[legacy-john.andliz]

U2KT3 Crasher - I am in the same boat. I downloaded new Detonator drivers in hopes of improving my graphics, and now I get the same error message you do. I cannot even run UT in safe mode. Not only that, but other problems are occurring, such as having 2 rundll32s in my Task Manager, which crash my computer every time I try and shut one down (I shut down backround programs to improve resources). Also, I cannot run Norton WinDoctor anymore (and God knows what other software), and cannot even run UT2k3 Debugger because it says I do not have a video card.

Let's work on finding a fix to this and in the meantime NVIDIA can shove their Detonator where the sun don't shine.

[legacy-john.andliz]

UT2k3 go to this thread and follow the instructions about changing the lines in the UT2003.ini file. IT WORKED FOR ME (so far)

http://www.ina-community.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301160:)

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Have a new idea,on www.guru3d.com ,there is a detonator destroyer,perhaps he will help us,also there is a detonator RIP:
http://www.guru3d.com/detonator-rip/

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

No it doesn´t help! :cry: what to do now,the atarisupport sucks ass,because they always say install new drivers!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:

I will write to a german magazine,how the atarisupport sucks,and it will be seen by over a million ppl..!!


And yes john,some programms are damaged!:cry: :cry:
What to do now?

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Originally posted by john.andliz
UT2k3 go to this thread and follow the instructions about changing the lines in the UT2003.ini file. IT WORKED FOR ME (so far)

http://www.ina-community.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301160:)


Well i did it,but i have the same **** Prob:
<?int?Udebugger.General.Abbreviation?> Build UT2003_Build_[2003-04-07_17.42]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1672 MHz with 255MB RAM
Video: No Video

General protection fault!

History: MainLoop

[legacy-Ruthlos]

Originally posted by Ut2k3crasher
:cry:
:cry:

my ut2003 crashes about 15 sec when the menus is up...
but if i am quik i can join a server and play
.the game never crashes in a server


help me too

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Yeah men,help us,the atari support sux,they said i should install the 44.03 drivers,WHICH I HAVE INSTALLED,there are sitting retarted students!!! And they are crazy,plz help me,i can´t play ut2k3 anymore! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-[FSB]Med]

Try running Prime95 on your system for a bit, you can get it from the Web. This will test overall system stability especially your memory subsystem wich could being causing the problem.

Also Download Memtest86 - This allows you to create a boot floppy wich will run extensive tests on your memory. Its a great tool that many use, as is Prime95.

Do you have 2 sticks of ram ?? If you do try only one and see if this helps. Aldo install the older Via drivers. Could also be your power supply. Try unplugging any un-needed devcices (CD roms, Hard Disk etc...) see if this helps. The 4600's suck quite a bit of power it looks like its running out of juice when rendering D3D/OGL stuff. Try increasing your AGP voltag by say .05 in your BIOS.

Test 3Dmark 2003 and see if it does the same. This really hammers your GPU so should produce a "CRASH" the same as 2k3.

Run "msconfig" from the Run line and disable any unwanted startup items. Like the crap that usually build up in the Systray.

You could just format everything and start again. This will solve any "Software" issues.

Just some ideas for you.

aNaBolic

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Will try it,thx!! ;)

And no,i have only one stick of 256 Samsung ddr 333 cl 2.5!

[Ultron]

Sounds like you are using some newer beta drivers. Get the latest greatest official drivers from your manufacturer. IMRO.

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

I have no beta drivers,i have all the official ones from the manufactorers websites! ;)

[legacy-Taranis]

Try reformatting then, install your previous drivers, then send a mail bomb to Nvidia. :D

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

The first what i should to is to send an bombtruck to the atari supportcenter in germany!!!! :mad: :mad:

But,i tried with older drivers,perhaps i will reinstall Xp! :cry:
But then i will loose all my other games! :cry: :cry:


TEH BIGEST ****,THAT COULD HAPPEN TO ME! :cry: :bulb:

[legacy-Ruthlos]

:(

i once had win2000 and thought the problem would fix if i installed xp but it dident so i dont think reinstalling xp is going to help

[legacy-john.andliz]

This is what I had to do to get all the bugs out - not improved, but it is back to the "old" performance.

1) I read the D3D Guru's website you linked me to. He has good stuff about improving video card performance. Even though NVIDIA swears all you have to do is install new drivers over the old ones, the old ones still stay in there, as Guru points out. I checked, and I had 3 sets of drivers in one file!. I uninstalled everything but the set that worked (4109).

2) I installed the VIA 4x1 package recommended for us old farts who still prefer gaming on Win98SE.

3) I ran WinDoctor

Seems like things are back to normal :) except, in UT2K3, I have lost all my "Favorites", "Buddies" and "Chat" configurations. Probably cuz I was playing with the config. file? Also, my FPH seems low, sometime I "skip" frames in a game online - anyone know how to tweak that (no do NOT tell me to update my drivers!)?

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

I have lost the yahoo messanger and kazaa,but now i reomstalled them!


But my problem is,ut2k3 is still not startig,i tried it also with the 43.45 WHQL ,but it really doesn´t work!! This really sucks arse! :cry: :cry: :cry: Oh god,help me,i want to play ut2k3,i wanted to join a clan,but how can i do that now??? :cry:

[legacy-FikusErectus]

You obviously have something installed or set wrong on your PC. My advice is format reinstall XP, video driver and so on.

[legacy-squid]

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2003-04-07_17.42]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 3077 MHz with 1023MB RAM
Video: No Video

General protection fault!

History: MainLoop



______________

specs :
video : quadro4 750 XGL
cpu : P4 3Ghz
ram : rambus 1Gb
DX9
Dets : 43.51


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[legacy-coaxfun]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I can't even use the installer without it doing this:
UT2003 Setup Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-19_17.26]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 1619 MHz with 511MB RAM
Video: No Video

Assertion failed: GetClassInfoExW( NULL, WinBaseClass, &Cls ) [File:Window.cpp] [Line: 1056]

History: WControl::RegisterWindowClass <- UWindowManager::UWindowManager <- InitWindowing

and I think it has sumthing to do with the problem that Ut2k3crasher is having..

I've tried it all, memory checks, registry checks. I've reinstalled the game, the drivers, the operating system.... I've burned insensce and chanted...

What is going on?! And don't even get me started on dumb ass atari support... pfft

HELP!!
:cry: :cry:

[legacy-john.andliz]

I got similiar error messages. Is the 3rd line significant in that it appears it may not be picking up on video/video card/graphics controller?

[legacy-john.andliz]

UTkCrasher -

You can uninstall and reinstall your video card. Uninstall the game first, use a "cleansweep" program to remove all the bits and peices. Then, remove your video card drivers and associated nonsense. Then, remove the video card using Windows.

Restart computer. Use Add hardware to add your card. Add drivers from your manufacturer's disk. These are probably pretty old drivers.

Do not update the drivers.

Then install the game. Test on low graphic settings.

[legacy-[FSB]Med]

Make sure your not using any NO-CD patches.

[legacy-marcain]

i have a very similar problem

i have have the game installed for a couple of weeks now and i have even completed it
but my pc crashed for some unknown reason (like windows does occasionally) and now i cant play my UT2003
i have over installed, i have uninstalled then reinstalled, but still i cant play i have the latest patch and have had no probs untils now
reading the previous postings ppl seem to have updated drivers etc
i have not done any of this as it was working properly to start with

with the No CD exe file in place i get this error

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2003-04-07_17.42]

OS: Windows 2000 5.0 (Build: 2195)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1672 MHz with 767MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 (4345)

General protection fault!

History: MainLoop

now i thought ok maybe the no cd has failed so i removed it and played as normal with CD in the drive and now i get this error

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2003-04-07_17.42]

OS: Windows 2000 5.0 (Build: 2195)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1672 MHz with 767MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 (4345)

ReadFile beyond EOF 595+1/595

History: ULinkerLoad::Serialize <- FObjectExport<< <- LoadExportMap <- ULinkerLoad::ULinkerLoad <- UObject::GetPackageLinker <- UObject::LoadPackage <- AGameInfo::execLoadDataObject <- UObject::execDelegateFunction <- (GUIListBox Package.GUITabControl.GUIListBox @ Function XInterface.GUIListBox.InternalOnChange : 000B) <- UObject::execDelegateFunction <- (GUIList Package.GUITabControl.GUIList @ Function XInterface.GUIListBase.SetIndex : 00AA) <- UObject::ProcessEvent <- (UT2MainMenu Package.UT2MainMenu, Function XInterface.UT2MainMenu.ButtonClick) <- UObject::ProcessDelegate <- GUIComponet::MouseReleased <- UGUIController::MouseReleased <- UInteractionMaster::MasterProcessKeyEvent <- UEngine::InputEvent <- UWindowsViewport::CauseInputEvent <- UWindowsViewport::UpdateInput <- UViewport::ReadInput <- APlayerController::Tick <- TickAllActors <- ULevel::Tick <- (NetMode=0) <- TickLevel <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop

[legacy-marcain]

additional information

i can also play in the instant action option with no problems the problem seems to lie in the single player option of the game

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

Ahrgh,the atari supports is a mother****ed dip****s place ,where you can´t get help! :mad: :mad:

[legacy-ChampionOfGod]

Hello, i belive that, i might just have the answer to your all your problems, you said that your comp has a 256 RAM stick of Samsung ddr 333 cl 2.5, right?. Answer this, is your comp's CPU overclocked?, if not, i don't see the need of why you should have a RAM stick with a 333MHZ BUS, when AMD CPU don't work well, with ram running faster then CPU's BUS.

I'd recommend you to read your mobo's spec for RAM specifications and try buy this time around, RAM with a 266MHZ BUS (Corsair brand preferly).

I'd also hope that your computer has plenty of cooling ect.



:)

[legacy-coaxfun]

Ok, so mine had the exact same problem, not even format reinstall worked. So, I got drastic. I changed out the motherboard. I originally had a Epox 4g4a series mobo, and now I have a ECS P4VXASD2+ in there (yes, I switched TO a via chipset).
Just for a bit of history, I've already tried changing out EVERYTHING except the mobo and processor...
I changed it out, and got XP back at full tilt, started up UT2003 and.... it crashed
Never fear tho, I installed the new 4 in 1 drivers, reinstalled vid card, reapplied DirectX, ran it... AND IT WORKED (after months, mind you)
I do believe it is some sort of Mobo chipset problem... It works now tho!

[legacy-john.andliz]

Coaxfun,

I admire your diligence. I love UT and UT2K and UT2k3, but to change out the motherboard? Wow! I probably would have just moved on to Splinter Cell or GT3 Vice City, both of which have no problems on my system.

Who here thinks Atari should be more responsible for their game? Should a game be created that causes so many problems you end up having to change your mobo to fix it? Should a game be created that is incompatible with certain OS, or has problems with some of the latest video cards? Should a game be created that has really crappy technical support?

Here are some better questions? Why don't other games that use the Unreal Engine, including Unreal II, have the same problems? I have never had more difficulties with any other games, which include American McGee's Alice, Hitman 2, Soldier of Fortune, Max Payne, Red Faction II, Deus Ex II, Nocturne and Undying. Quake III plays fine, too.

At some point the manufacturer should take responsibility. I do not have time to deal with buggy games. I do not think I will buy UT4 right away, but instead I will watch this board. If UT4 has problems, I may see what else is out there. UT is not the Universe.

[legacy-coaxfun]

actually... no UT2k3 based engines would start on my computer.... :sour:

[legacy-|GG|Absolut_X]

K this is my opinion on whats going on....

Ive started having this problem 2 days ago and have just managed to solve it.....

some things i should say:
1. There is nothing wrong with your drivers!!!!!
2. There is nothing wrong with your windows version.
3. There is definately nothing wrong with your motherboards.

I have gone through the registries on my comp and have found some very worrying adwarte registries eg from kazaa, imesh and the rest.

Oh so you should know it stops all popups and any frm of advirtesement registries being put on ur comp again its very good and has lowered the amount of RAM that is used on my comp. Ty it best of luck hope ur ut2k3 gets fixed soon !!!

I have got rid of all of these using a really neat program safely and my ut worx fine now.

U can read more about it here (http://security.kolla.de/)

or download it here (http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10122137.html?part=104443&subj=dlpage&tag=button)

[legacy-coaxfun]

As I've said AMILLION TIMES, in MY case, it was not the registry, as I formated the drive, reinstalled, and it STILL did not work

[legacy-Ut2k3crasher]

You n00b,i have a Via kt 400a board,there you can use ram sticks
with 400mhz!









Originally posted by ChampionOfGod
Hello, i belive that, i might just have the answer to your all your problems, you said that your comp has a 256 RAM stick of Samsung ddr 333 cl 2.5, right?. Answer this, is your comp's CPU overclocked?, if not, i don't see the need of why you should have a RAM stick with a 333MHZ BUS, when AMD CPU don't work well, with ram running faster then CPU's BUS.

I'd recommend you to read your mobo's spec for RAM specifications and try buy this time around, RAM with a 266MHZ BUS (Corsair brand preferly).

I'd also hope that your computer has plenty of cooling ect.



:)

[legacy-ChampionOfGod]

Originally posted by Ut2k3crasher
You n00b,i have a Via kt 400a board,there you can use ram sticks
with 400mhz!

so what?, the CPU's FSB is still 266MHZ, not 333MHZ. reagarless of what type of chipset your mobo has.

btw, i understand that you most be very frustrated by not being able to play the game. However do not appreciate, you calling me a noob like that, i only wanted to help. Further, am more then certain that the RAM, is what is causing all the crashes, till them, keep on crashing.
:mad: :down: :p

[legacy-john.andliz]

To Any and All that may be Concerned -

NVIDIA finally replied, only after I wrote letters of complaint to several purchasers of their cards, such as Microsoft and HP, complaining about the poor customer support NVIDIA offered and the problems associated with the latest drivers.

Here is what NVIDIA sent to me via email - basically they told me I needed to ensure my old drivers were removed before I installed any new drivers. Note that on their website, they say just the opposite - that you can download new drivers "over" old drivers. I believe you should remove old ones first. Here are their instructions:
__________________________________________________ __
New information has been added to your request:

Please uninstall through control panel add remove program prior to installing any new NVIDIA drivers. If older NVIDIA drivers are not uninstalled first, this can cause many upgrade problems.

Note: It is highly recommended that you follow the steps in this section to
completely uninstall the NVIDIA Display Driver software before
installing a new version of the software.
To uninstall the NVIDIA Display Driver software, follow these steps:
1 From the Windows taskbar, click Start > Settings > Control Panel to open
the Control Panel windows.
2 Double click the Add/Remove Programs item.
3 Click the NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers item from the list.
4 Click Change/Remove.
5 Click Yes to continue.
Note: A prompt appears asking whether you want to delete all of the saved
nView profiles.
If you click Yes, all of the nView software and all of your saved
profiles will be deleted.
If you click No, the nView software is removed, but the profile files
are saved in the Windows\nView directory on your hard disk.
Your system now restarts.


You can view and update this request by clicking on this link: http://support.nvidia.com/apps/support/myRequests/index.asp?RequestKey={E68A508E-C1CF-4164-9541-82911B1FF07A}

[legacy-john.andliz]

Read the second large paragraph. This second email arrived explaining why NVIDIA has such crappy customer support. Makes sense, but it is not an excuse.
__________________________________________________ _
New information has been added to your request:

An order number is requested because this is NVDVD software support. We have not received reports of this uninstall problem before. You may have not uninstalled your previous drivers before installing the newer drivers which is causing your previous drivers to conflict with your newer ones. Uninstall your current drivers by going into your Control Panel -> then clicking on the Add/Remove Program icon. You will find the NVIDIA Display Drivers listed there. Remove it from your system. Or you can try driver file removers available such as the "nVidia File Remover" which is available from Guru3d's website. Here is the URL to their website:

http://download.guru3d.com/detonator


*Please keep in mind that this utility is not made by NVIDIA so use at your own risk.

NVIDIA sells graphics processors (semiconductors only) to leading add-in card manufacturers and PC OEMs. We do not make or sell any card products nor sell any products directly to end users. Therefore we do not have a staff dedicated to end-user technical support. If you are having a problem with any NVIDIA-based/powered product, please contact either the PC or add in board manufacturer of your product.

You can view and update this request by clicking on this link: http://support.nvidia.com/apps/support/myRequests/index.asp?RequestKey={0C432F6B-809F-4B98-ADCD-52D6878CBA19}