Coret2k3

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

13/05/03

The map has now gone out to a few select people for closed testing.

I think a public beta should be around soon enough ;)

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I have just created a new page on my website for this map now. I hadnt done it before as I didnt know where this map would go, but I am definately going to finish it now. :)

So a big thanks to everyone for the nice emails and feedback here. I appreciate it :up:

Thanks to Gradient so far for helping with editing meshes and textures, cheers for your time dude :up:

Thanks to Jeff for giving me feedback on the map and how its progressing. He is a big Coret player so when the beta is released it should be quite close to the original flow.

I have included a progress table so you get an idea of what rooms are being worked on and finished to a beta standard.

the direct link to the page with all new pics is here;-

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/coret2k3main.htm

Nearly finished the room to the RL.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/shot14.jpg

Also started work on the corridor you can TL through.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/shot15.jpg




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The original thread is here http://ina-community.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=228386

but I want to place it in the correct forum now.

Anyhow, I would appreciate it if people could carry on letting me know what their likes and dislikes were about the original and how I can improve over it.

Hopefully there will be an Alpha available soon but it will be very basic. I am just throwing ideas around at the moment. The lighting is very basic, the textures are just thrown in and not aligned and Meshes are placed in.

Saying this it doesnt look too bad for an alpha.

Old pictures removed.

My website will have updates on if and when they come :) www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk

[legacy-Helios]

Very good! Me liked coret, hehe and my gues is that I'm even going to like it more now.
Looking at the screens this map looks amazing, I especially like the lower corridor looking down to door in distance screeny, it's the most moody and looks very proffesional. The other shots R great too, but some spots are a little to bright IMO (to bright to be as moody as the first shot, but maby good for gameplay cuz you'll spot the characters easier I don't know).
Anyway, good luck, I can't wait for this map:):up:

[legacy-Mofassa]

looks amazing dwarf..i've been following ur map since ur first post (except u haven't made ne updates on ur site :()

i know u probably haven't dun much work here but in the flag room...make sure that the shockrifle is placed correctly...In the last Coret remake i've seen the shockrifle is placed in a way that kinda stops u from using it to stop flag carriers....maybe darken the lighting a bit..but not 2 much


'n jus for fun add some karma lights :P

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Websites been updated today, you havent been paying attention ;)

[legacy-Audane]

Looking damn good Red_Dwarf! :D :up:

Can't wait to play it!!!!


:up: :D :up:

[legacy-Mofassa]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Websites been updated today, you havent been paying attention ;)


lol...sorry for my lack of knowlege all knowing dwarf:bulb:

i jus checked..ur right :(

[legacy-tUmAdRe]

Lookin good Dwarf :up:

[legacy-Letum]

looks very nice
please upload it somewhere :up:

[legacy-{G}God]

is it me or is the upper corridor rather small? :x

[legacy-haveNUK]

its just u muhahaha

[legacy-cy_Tao]

looks great and ctf corret=great map.
I'll be sure to download it.

[legacy-Cainslair]

This map must be good.

Many of the regulars in my Server are already begging for me to put it up.

-- Cain

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

So any suggestions as to what you would like and what you wouldnt like in the map?

I am considering placing a lift or a couple in the map to have lift jumps etc.
The flak room is further away from the main map room now due to the way I have designed it. Its not a great deal further but enough to place a lift in the corridor before the main pillar to the flag room. This I am thinking of having as a great way to escape and fool someone or get to the upper corridors just that little bit quicker from the flak room.

Also the main area may be different. I have already seen a reactor mesh that I may use for the central bit and have all the action around that.

There will still be a upper area where the amp was but instead of having a moon outside I want to have glass in that area between girders that looks out over a snowy landscape.

I want to set Coret as an abandoned industrial factory that has been taken over for the UT2k3 games. I will put up a thread on the main forum as I want a sort of story to go with it. Also a brief destription that will go with the animated map at the start of the game.

So anyone up for writing a small background story?

[legacy-Mofassa]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
So any suggestions as to what you would like and what you wouldnt like in the map?

I am considering placing a lift or a couple in the map to have lift jumps etc.
The flak room is further away from the main map room now due to the way I have designed it. Its not a great deal further but enough to place a lift in the corridor before the main pillar to the flag room. This I am thinking of having as a great way to escape and fool someone or get to the upper corridors just that little bit quicker from the flak room.

Also the main area may be different. I have already seen a reactor mesh that I may use for the central bit and have all the action around that.

There will still be a upper area where the amp was but instead of having a moon outside I want to have glass in that area between girders that looks out over a snowy landscape.

I want to set Coret as an abandoned industrial factory that has been taken over for the UT2k3 games. I will put up a thread on the main forum as I want a sort of story to go with it. Also a brief destription that will go with the animated map at the start of the game.

So anyone up for writing a small background story?

"The Coret Facility was once a major source of energy for the residents on the Northern part of Na Pali. In 2301 the Lindari Corperation moved in and bought over the Coret Facility in order to provide a new unique battle ground for the Tournament. Coret was one of the first non built for battle arenas, and the very first for Capture the Flag. Since its debut Coret has been known for its high speed action fights and has lead to the rise and down fall of many. After being shutdown for the past 2 years inorder to renovate it, it is back and looking better than ever"

i know...crappy story..i jus made it up now.....later tonight I'll have a better 1

[legacy-TheRipe]

ooo coret :D

looks good :cool:

[legacy-rezlop]

Damn!! I wanted to remake that map !!

But I haven't that great ideas!! Looks really, really good.

Did you made it totally new or did you exort/import it and redesigned it ??

I hope there are some maps left to redesign until I know the Editor better.

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by rezlop
Damn!! I wanted to remake that map !!

But I haven't that great ideas!! Looks really, really good.

Did you made it totally new or did you exort/import it and redesigned it ??

I hope there are some maps left to redesign until I know the Editor better.

scribbled down the general layout on paper and also have Ued2 open with coret open to try to keep the map similar.

Finding the meshes that work right and getting the brushes the right height has been a real ball ache.

[legacy-rezlop]

Oh!! So you made it brandnew !!

Do you know how to change the size of a mesh and also of a brush. Because if i made a cube for example I must size it before I click on the cube button.

And how did you find out the right correlation ?? Because when someone imports a map for UT2003 the maps are too small. Thats, I think is the hardest thing to try out.

I cannot await the ready Coret-Map!! Really Nice!

[legacy-CurlyJ]

It the map almost finished? :up:

[legacy-[SEOD]--|Ripley]

Looks good this map cant wait to try it :up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by CurlyJ
It the map almost finished? :up:

I wish :(

Nah, its gonna take a bit to get some sort of an Alpha together.

At the moment I am playing with ideas that change daily. Once the basic design is there and a few selected people have gave it the thumbs up a beta would be available within a few weeks after that.

[legacy-Mort_Q]

One thing I hated about the original was that I always got turned around...

... with the flag-base radar, hopefully I won't do such noobish things, but I know that I, at least, like those handy team arrows...

Just my opinion.

[legacy-Mofassa]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
I wish :(

Nah, its gonna take a bit to get some sort of an Alpha together.

At the moment I am playing with ideas that change daily. Once the basic design is there and a few selected people have gave it the thumbs up a beta would be available within a few weeks after that.

nice goin red....IMO i think u should expand the level...not alot. But you know where the RL is (in the little incave) well personally in the room that connects it i think there should be another path out there that kinda goes around. Im not sure how much u wanna chnage the level but since this isn't a port but a new level I think you could try it. (ps. me wants to beta :P)

[legacy-The Kurgenator]

Looking forward to this one...:cool:

[Grim]

Yes, I really wanan make a review on this one for my site :) :)

[legacy-Daxonn]

How come everyone is saying less light? I was thinking some of the shots looked kind of dark already. One of the things i loved about the old coret was just how much light there was. As far as ut2k3 maps, a lot actually seem dark to me, but one that got the lighting right was Chrome. Lighting similar to that would be great! OF course, i trust the map creator to do what he thinks best as those screens look amazing!

[legacy-Gui]

Really good-looking but I don't like the concrete wals in pic 6, as well as the concrete pillars in pic 9: concrete doesn't seem to fit the high-tech theme of this sequel IMO... You may find interesting to fix this by simply changing the skins/texs... Some BSP curves can be better with more polys but this depends on the FPS of course...

Otherwise, the overall atmosphere's pretty nice, especially when I consider the fact it's an alpha :up:

[legacy-HortonsWho]

I just played a Coret remake on a 2k3 server last night that looked alot like this... was this it? Seriously, it was very similar if not the same.

[legacy-irix]

Originally posted by HortonsWho
I just played a Coret remake on a 2k3 server last night that looked alot like this... was this it? Seriously, it was very similar if not the same.

I think you're mistaken. The map never was put on any server, it's only about 50% complete (no mid area, no flag room), and can't be played in CTF. You were either a) playing a different coret remake, or b) are totally confused.

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

I think Irix is right, it was only 40% complete and it would have been under a DM map type.

[legacy-A2597]

any updates?

this looks awsome!

[legacy-[VF]EnisDonKing]

I saw all screenshots and maps looks really good.
Now everything depends on a size of map.

[legacy-Fragem]

good deal man

[Grim]

/me wants updates :cry: :cry:

[Plumb_Drumb]

It looks to be the best recreated out-of-box UT map yet.

I will definitely give this one a go when its ready.

From looking at the screenies, the lighting needs some work but other than that it looks good. The use of static meshies really keeps that "Coret" look.

I guess I'll comment more when its done and I 've played it...

[Plumb_Drumb]

this is not a *bump*

[legacy-Loosecontroll5]

Hey Red Dwarf!.
Map looks cool.

Have u though about this just to add a bit more atmosphere!
Have a few Windows in the map with Rain Pouring down outside.
I think that would be cool.

:p

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Havent had much time to do allot to the map in the past few weeks :(

Although I now have sort of finalised the upper corridor as it now has more space to jump in height and a little more in the width. Had a nightmare wth the static meshes I created not lighting so I had to undo all I had done which ticked me off a little :(

As for atmospehere, I have ideas about that. Its hard to put windows in along the corridors as I am intending the map being underground, but the main upper windows looking out should still be there with a nice little twist at the udamage.

I have added just a touch of fog to the level as it gives the impression of a steamy environment.Dont worry though as its very think and I have used a very dark grey to achieve this.

I will post some updated piccies tonight if I can get some done.

Again a big thanks to Gradient for editing me some of the models and textures :up:

[legacy-/\psalus]

Take your time. I'm sure it will pay off in the end. :cool:

[legacy-SwordOfGatts]

Dude.. I want to play this thing.. Coret was some good times.. Can't you link us up with a Beta or something.

[legacy-fran|tbuk]

idd that looks excellent.

[legacy-The2DCube]

simply awesome

[Plumb_Drumb]

I'll say again, and at the risk of getting the old "rolleyes" for repetition....

This is the best looking Epic UT map remake I have seen so far. Much better than that Cliffy Ownage Liandri.

I just hope the lighting and the performance is up to snuff in the end. Make sure all the optimizations are there!!! Zones and antiportals!! (too many maps without this basic stuff I have seen)

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Looking nice. Can't wait.

[legacy-Insomniak]

Looks awesome dwarf.

Coret was one of my fav UT maps, from the Demo, and I'm happy as a clam you're putting out the new one.

The other one by the DBOZ guys looks *blecch* it's an exact port, which is ridiculous I think because who wants to play UT2k3 with UT level graphics?

This re-make is how they're supposed to be done, and it's looking AWESOME bro. None of this exactly-like-it-was-in-UT crap. Good job!!!11

Keep us updated....can't wait for the final version...

[Grim]

Planning on any more remakes Dwarf ? :) :)

[legacy-FromZero]

That long Cooridor shot with the door at the in remindes me of that scene on Lost In Space (The new remake, althought I hated it) Where the spider things are swarming and The robot and the other military guy mow them down to cover their retreat. Did you get in inspiration from the Alien movies or any other movie that has space stations on it?

looks great.

[legacy-Insomniak]

Love it or hate it, Lacey Chabert and Heather Graham are ssmmmmokin!! :cool: :D :up:

[legacy-SealClubber]

just remember what I said about making that upper corridor wider too now :)

from the updated pics at ur site, i see that the upper hallway is wider, but , i dunno if its still anold pic - but after that 2nd ram- it looks like a tight space to fit(im talking about the entranceway to the top floor)


gj still n-e-ways :up:

[legacy-Mofassa]

hey this map is still looking great,

I was still wonderin though if you're plannin on adding ne new rooms 'n stuff to the old coret map, since yours isn't much of a copy more of a remake.


/edit
I'm wonderin y pez hasn't dropped in and given ne good words of advice to this map....its pretty damn good
/edit

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Try to reply to a few here.

trogetta - Yeah, new rooms will be in. Already one small one in the main corridor. Also the main central area will be quite different with a few routes to get there plus different heights on walkways for some good fight action and sniping.

There will also be a few secrets in but I havent thought what yet :)

SealClubber - The corridors are wider and also heigher now. Check the link out in the previous post I made to see examples with a player in to show scale.

There will be a tighter fit where the entrances are to the upper and lower sections, but it just looks crap if I make it massively wide :(

FromZero - Nah, wasnt based on anything other than trying different brushes and meshes and see what would work. Will have to dig out the DVD :bulb: I have kicking around to see what you mean.

This will take a while to even get to a beta stage as I spend time doing something to then decide it doesnt work or I dont like the look of it :( Its taking a huge amount of my time and my girlfriend isnt too pleased so I have had to slow down now.

Thanks for all the interest, I will keep replying and updating as and when new areas are started/finished.

[legacy-MMMMonster]

There will also be a few secrets in but I havent thought what yet
Think Nali ;) That one was great :cool:

[legacy-[VULC]asbestos]

I'm still looking forward to this. =] Looks like it'll be great, keep up the good work. The only thing that kinda bugs me from the shots is the one showing the concrete pillars in front of the entrance to the flag room. Its obvious where the static mesh of the wall gets cut off by the pillar, so it looks kind of icky. =\ That's not really a big deal, just something I noticed. Map in all looks awesome though, I'd love to Beta test if you end up needing any more people.

[Mr. Brownstone]

*Bum—p!*

[Grim]

This map, is the one I am waiting for now. Lots of good maps in the works but this is a remake of my all time favorite from UT and it looks to be a damn good remake to :D :D

[legacy-Slot1]

The maps look really bad m8... Please stop what your doing at once and back away from Ued..




































;) Looks Awsome Dude :up: keep the good work up.

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

SLot1 - Your just saying that cus theres only one shot of you in the preview pics ;)

I have just created a new page on my website for this map now. I hadnt done it before as I didnt know where this map would go, but I am definately going to finish it now.

So a big thanks to everyone for the nice emails and feedback here. I appreciate it

Thanks to Gradient so far for helping with editing meshes and textures, cheers for your time dude

Thanks to Jeff for giving me feedback on the map and how its progressing. He is a big Coret player so when the beta is released it should be quite close to the original flow.

I have included a progress table so you get an idea of what rooms are being worked on and finished to a beta standard.

the direct link to the page with all new pics is here;-

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/coret2k3main.htm

Nearly finished the room to the RL.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/shot13.jpg

Also started work on the corridor you can TL through.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/shot15.jpg

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

GIMME IT NOW!!! Keep us updated.:)

[legacy-Radeon285]

um... wtf is up with those links? they are all broken and seem inclomplete

in any case, I went to your website and checked them out, looks really nice so far man, cant wait to try it out

[legacy-Mofassa]

lookin sweeter every time i see it dwarf

[legacy-JohnDoe641]

R_D brO, you are going to tell your fellow T.com'ers about the beta release first, right? :)

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by JohnDoe641
R_D brO, you are going to tell your fellow T.com'ers about the beta release first, right? :)

:)

Yup

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Although it's only been a week, this thread is dying so I thought I'd bring it back to life. Hows the map coming along?..any updates?..I can't wait.:)

[legacy-JohnDoe641]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
:)

Yup


Originally posted by Red_dwarf
:)

Yup

Good x 2 :D:up:

;)

[legacy-gramps]

bump!

release teh damn thing already! :D :up:

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Hey thanks. Been looking for this tread. *BUMP*

Update plz.

[legacy-SwordOfGatts]

and by update we mean release something!

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Or just some more screenies or videos..perhaps a demorec of what you have ;)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Or just some more screenies or videos..perhaps a demorec of what you have ;)

[legacy-YoungBlood_DK]

Damn it looks amacing :up:
Any guess on a release date?
Anyways keep up the amacing work :)

[legacy-SwordOfGatts]

Originally posted by uTaBenoit
Or just some more screenies or videos..perhaps a demorec of what you have ;)

one can only take screenshots for so long.... I need my Coret, dammit.

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Less partying, more mapping.

*BUMP*:)

[legacy-SwordOfGatts]

do what I do.. drink WHILE mapping.

[legacy-Gui]

But never drink and deintersect :D

[legacy-Foralarx]

Bumpty, Bump...

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

I love coret.

Bumptastic.

[Grim]

so anyhting new ?

not much happening on your site :( :eek:

[legacy-SwordOfGatts]

sfhsdfhsh

[Grim]

Damnit give us a life sign atleast :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Sorry guys :(

Have been a busy over the christmas period. Done a bit to it and added a few meshes in but I needed one of the meshes editing and the person who has been helping me couldnt do it so I am having to have a rethink.

If anyone can edit Static meshes drop me an email please.

I will do some at the weekend and hopefully update my site.

Thanks for the interest.

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Thanks for the update.:up:

[legacy-Devastation 8]

Red_Dwarf, thnx for the update. I'm waiting for this map and it looks absolutly amazing currently, you should rename it CTF-Coret][ because it looks like a very good sequel map :).

[legacy-Buckyfg]

Red_dwarf, this looks amazing man. I'm not at your level for making brushes exactly how I want them. damn good job so far!
This was my favorite map for UT hands down. I think it was even in the demo right?


Cant wait till release, "I am no means an expert on Ued" you posted this in my Shire thread, Well to me you are an expert on it.

I guess its all relative, you get to a certain level and then find theres more to learn.


Later

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Yep, looks sweet..is the scale the same as the old one?

[legacy-Devastation 8]

Any good updates about the map Red_Dwarf?

Maybe update the map's page on you site as well?

[legacy-Shogun6996]

Will we be able to wall jump off of anything in this map? Thats something thats been quite annoying. Orbital is a good example of this. You cant wall jump off of many of the walls:(

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by Shogun6996
Will we be able to wall jump off of anything in this map? Thats something thats been quite annoying. Orbital is a good example of this. You cant wall jump off of many of the walls:(

It might have something to do with blocking volumes, but I'm not sure.
The volumes are good for keepin gyou form getting snagged, but terrible if you want to wall jump. They might interfere with the secondary goo glob separation effect too, but I haven't really tested it (just a theory)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

on a percent scale...how far are you along in completing the map ? (I know I'm a nag but I love coret :))

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

I would say about 50%. I will just rotate the base once done to do the red side. Centre, and flag base need doing and a few other little bits.

Already started working on the flag base but I have just seen a movie of the Bonus Pack and now I definately going to wait for its release for all the new textures and meshes :)

[Grim]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
I would say about 50%. I will just rotate the base once done to do the red side. Centre, and flag base need doing and a few other little bits.

Already started working on the flag base but I have just seen a movie of the Bonus Pack and now I definately going to wait for its release for all the new textures and meshes :)

Doh! :p

I love Coret to my alltime favorite CTF map

[legacy-Mofassa]

c'mon dwarf...ya killing me

u got ne new screenies

[legacy-StarGunner]

Originally posted by trogetta
c'mon dwarf...ya killing me

u got ne new screenies

Chill out dude It'll be dune when It's dune no sooner or later, bay the whay could I help out with the Beta testing?

[Grim]

To bad it wasnt done in time for the CTF cups @ Clanbase

They are starting in a week or so and I think they have allready made up their minds about which maps to use (only official maps)

[legacy-ViciousLoad]

Keep us updated becuase this map is lookingpreaty dam good. WOOOOOOOOW.......:up: :up: :up: :up:

[legacy-!Wicked DUDE!]

*bump* *opens mouth* insert updates here *closes mouth*

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

UPDATE UPDATE WE WANT AN UPDATE.

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

/me begs.

[legacy-Ghost-Ryder1]

He is still waiting for the Epic Bonus pack with the new Textures and stuff i guess.

(Not the DE BonusPack)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

booooooo.

fine fine.

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Got a couple of weeks off soon. I suppose the BP wont be out in a week so I may get cracking and try to finish it.

I cant see the BP coming out for a while yet :(

[legacy-Mofassa]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Got a couple of weeks off soon. I suppose the BP wont be out in a week so I may get cracking and try to finish it.

I cant see the BP coming out for a while yet :(

woo go dwarf...can't wait to kick some arse in coret. seems like its goin well...keep up the work

[legacy-SealClubber]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Got a couple of weeks off soon. I suppose the BP wont be out in a week so I may get cracking and try to finish it.

I cant see the BP coming out for a while yet :(

bahhh - knock it out man, then u can release Coret 2.0 after the bonus pack if wanted :)

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

This map looks great!
For some reason I missed the updated screen shots awhile back.
So now I'm drooling and hoping this map comes out soon.
Looks like it's gonna be great for game play.

[Grim]

I managed to miss thoose screens to :D :D :D

This is without doubt the map that tops my waiting list.
So great to see that people remake good old maps for UT with UT2k3 style.

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

ah, it's been a week....
any update?

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

pwease.:(

[Grim]

Im going nuts over here :D :D

[legacy-StarGunner]

Originally posted by Grimmen
Im going nuts over here :D :D

THE DE BOUNIS PACKS OUT COMON GET IT OUT ALREDDY!? I CAN'T STAND THIS! MUST................HAVE.............MAP!?:cry:

[Grim]

Please red_dwarf it has to be done soon :cry: :cry: :cry:

[legacy-Audane]

Yeah - give us a clue of where you're at :D

( btw - first post in many months....weee... this is one of the things that has made me come back)

[legacy-Chris IX]

yeah this map looks cool but I will wait if it means it'll be better

by the way, I need some help remembering which one is Coret?

I haven't played the original in a year or so...

[Grim]

Originally posted by Chris IX
yeah this map looks cool but I will wait if it means it'll be better

by the way, I need some help remembering which one is Coret?

I haven't played the original in a year or so...

Coret was the CTF map on the UT demo if my memory hasnt failed me entirely.

[legacy-Re.S.T.A.]

it will really suck if this map doesnt play well on low end machines or has some type of problems with it...cause we are waiting like 6 months for this map (exagerationx10) hoping it will live up to its predecesor.

[legacy-Chris IX]

Originally posted by Grimmen
Coret was the CTF map on the UT demo if my memory hasnt failed me entirely.

I never played the UT demo.
Was it the one with a jump pad near the flag room, a flak cannon in an adjacent room, and armour behind a bit of wall at the corner of a corridor?

What sort of style was it?

[legacy-NeoPhoenix]

... And the ASMD above and behind the flag, yeah, that's it.

[legacy-Chris IX]

Ok thanks.
I just wasn't sure from the screenshots.

me want

[legacy-kevishie]

the bonus pack wont come out for along time, so just finish it! epic are to stupid to release a bonus pack. they are to busy fixing the game with the million and 1 patches

[legacy-StarGunner]

Originally posted by kevishie
the bonus pack wont come out for along time, so just finish it! epic are to stupid to release a bonus pack. they are to busy fixing the game with the million and 1 patches

Now now no blameing epic for that stuff, they'r not stupid and you should whatch your mouth, what would happen if they will not give you the bounis pack huh? No spaming about epic should be aloud on the froms. you hate em so much then whay did you even get the game?

[legacy-Chris IX]

calm down stargunner, we all need to take out our anger on someone sometimes, and he didn't say he hates epic, he's just annoyed at them for there not being any bonus pack yet

[Grim]

/me still wondering when red_dwarf is gonna spot this thread :D :D

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Spotted it :)

Sorry guys, I havent done anything for 2 months on this. Been busy and also playing BF1942.

I am going to try and start again soon but its getting ideas and time at the moment.

Thanks for the interest, will update when I have started again.

[Grim]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Spotted it :)

Sorry guys, I havent done anything for 2 months on this. Been busy and also playing BF1942.

I am going to try and start again soon but its getting ideas and time at the moment.

Thanks for the interest, will update when I have started again.


:cry: :cry:

Oh well, good news that you are gonna finish it, its just that I miss Coret so mucj and this map is still the one I have the biggest desire for atm. But great to hear that you havent abandoned it cause then I would probably suicide or something.

[legacy-[GX]Frost]

Coret is one of my favorite maps and those screenshots do look impressive.
I can't wait to see it finished :p

[legacy-dethmanrulz]

When do you think it'll be finished?

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

After the bp.:(

[legacy-Chris IX]

any update on the bp?

[legacy-«Scavenger-X»]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
playing BF1942.

/me chokes

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

bp will be out this friday if no bugs are found...(pfff yea right) so give it till the 14th.:(

Add on some more time to finish the map...

[legacy-Chris IX]

That soon for the bonus pack?
It that a more recent update that "2 weeks time" which was a couple of weeks ago?

[legacy-Foralarx]

/me pokes RD. :D Bonus pack is out chap, get loading those new textures so we start playing this already .....

joking with ya. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with this. It's still one of my most enjoyed CTF maps.

Hope to hear from you soon.

[Grim]

Originally posted by Foralarx
/me pokes RD. :D Bonus pack is out chap, get loading those new textures so we start playing this already .....

joking with ya. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with this. It's still one of my most enjoyed CTF maps.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Indeed

I cant describe my love for Coret in words :D :D :D

[legacy-GOGETA_NL]

Originally posted by uTaBenoit
bp will be out this friday if no bugs are found...(pfff yea right) so give it till the 14th.:(

Add on some more time to finish the map...

I Think the bonus pack is released alreadu :o :D :cool:

[legacy-NeoPhoenix]

Yep, it is. And didn't you say you wan'ted to wait till the BP was out? So time to start working on the map again :p.

[legacy-Chris IX]

???????!!!!!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!
the epic bonus pack?

where where me want me want

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Havent downloaded it yet but I am going to. I should be making a start on it again soon.

[Grim]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Havent downloaded it yet but I am going to. I should be making a start on it again soon.

You wouldnt want to maybe consider doing a remake of Dreary ? :) :)

Coret and Dreary are my absolute favorites. :D :D

[legacy-NeoPhoenix]

Originally posted by Chris IX
???????!!!!!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!
the epic bonus pack?

where where me want me want


Check out the General discussion forum, there should be links there to the Epic BP. (warning: many have been having FPS issues with the new maps.)

[legacy-Chris IX]

i got it now

The new ctf maps are hard to run on my comp. There are more bots than usual. I thought that was why.

Invasion and mutant are really cool. Haven't tried the combos yet...




Which one was drerary?
Did it have a redeemer inside a column of lava and to get it you had to press a button?

[Grim]

Any updates ? :confused: :confused: :weird: :weird:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

I finally reinstalled UT2k3 on my machine yesterday :)

First time I opened Ued3 in 3 months, so I have got past the first hurdle. Now I should start work on it again. Did about an hour on it yesterday so hopefully I should have it finished this time next year ;)

[Plumb_Drumb]

lol!

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

Yeah. That's realy funny. :sour:

[Plumb_Drumb]

It'll be okay, little man. :)

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

:bulb:

[Plumb_Drumb]

:down: :bulb:

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

:haha::up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Hehe.

Seriously I am liking some of the new textures and meshes. I have already replaced a few meshes which make it look allot better.

It looks as though my contract at work will run out the end of this month so I am all on looking for another job at the mo. That said, if I dont find any before the end of the month I will have a lot of spare time on my hands to complete the map :)

[Grim]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Hehe.

Seriously I am liking some of the new textures and meshes. I have already replaced a few meshes which make it look allot better.

It looks as though my contract at work will run out the end of this month so I am all on looking for another job at the mo. That said, if I dont find any before the end of the month I will have a lot of spare time on my hands to complete the map :)


Weeeeeeeeeeee

nah j/k m8 hope you find yourself a new job
but this map would be so freaking sweet to get to play :D :D

btw I am on learning expierence with the editor. I am hoping that I will be fairly good at it and my tutorial levels are looking good so far(expect for thoose with terrain in it :D :D :D )

I am working on doing a simliar remake of Dreary in the same spirit as you have done yours of Coret. I hope to have the first shots of my remake in a couple of weeks :) :)

Cheers m8 :up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Ok, just as proof I have done a little work on it tonight.

Map room where the flag will be. There are 3-4 different versions of this. I have to decide which one to go with but heres my fav so far.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/temp/Shot00002.JPG

heres if the screenshot tag doesnt work

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/temp/Shot00002.JPG

[legacy-Chris IX]

uhh the tag doesn't work, and neither does the link:bulb:

[legacy-Foralarx]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
[B]Ok, just as proof I have done a little work on it tonight.

Map room where the flag will be. There are 3-4 different versions of this. I have to decide which one to go with but heres my fav so far.


:eek: sure is one purdy picture. :up:

/me waits ever patiently.

[legacy-NeoPhoenix]

Looks kinda empty from the screen shot, but still looks nice :).

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

:D
that flag room looks great!
can't wait for anything else :o

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by NeoPhoenix
Looks kinda empty from the screen shot, but still looks nice :).

Thats because I have only just started on the back wall. Its about 50% done so expect a new screenshot soon with it complete.

Just working through a few ideas.

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

w00t. Looks great man..I'm still drooling..

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

couple days later and this thread drops.:( I was hoping to keep it updated. *sigh*

[Grim]

Yeah, I was looking for this thread.

Come on red dwarf time for an update, or a beta maybe ? :D :confused: :D


;) :) :)

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

:D

[legacy-Chris IX]

You make me wait for 60 whole seconds for the email to load, for me to copy/paste the address, and for the flipping thing to load up, all for THIS!!!!!??????

:D

well let me tell you something:

http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/blackeye/AR15firing.gif
http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/sarge/Guillotine_anim.gif
http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/edoom/samurai.gif
http://216.40.249.192/s/cwm/3dlil/mad.gif
http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/contrib/edoom/let_it_all_out.gif

lol just kidding I hought it would make a good posta. More amusing than "hurry up with the map bla bla" at least.

Oh and reddwarf: comon hurry up if you can!

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

lol i'm sorry
i think i've used up all my whining posts already :cool:

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

I give up. :(

[|><|CELLENT]

Ever get the feeling nothing has been done on this map in months?? hehe :p

Finish it please!!

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

:cry:

[legacy-SealClubber]

yea, this map is dead... it aint getting finished :o

might as well move on

[legacy-Mofassa]

I'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU DWARF...LONG LIVE CORET!!!

[legacy-Chris IX]

Give im an email:)

[legacy-SnowBawl]

Originally posted by trogetta
I'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU DWARF...LONG LIVE CORET!!! I wanna play u in instagib again ^_^

[legacy-Chris IX]

Could we at least try to get a half decent conversation going in here?

What's your favourite films everyone?
Mine's either gladiator, the two towers or the road to perdition.

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

'stay on target!'

What if we all pool together some money in a Paypal account to brib red dwarf. Ok maybe that's too much, but I'd really love to get this map.

[legacy-Re.S.T.A.]

This guy has been working on this map since last year...i mean WTF is taking so long?

ive seen maps that arent even conversions made in like 2 weeks that are damm good...wtf you doing to this map....dipping it in platinum???????!11@1?

Coret wasnt even all that in UT 1 i mean WTF is the big hype about??JESUS!Finish the damm map already FFS!!!21!!2@1??@!1

[legacy-Mort_Q]

Originally posted by Re.S.T.A.
This guy has been working on this map since last year...i mean WTF is taking so long?

ive seen maps that arent even conversions made in like 2 weeks that are damm good...wtf you doing to this map....dipping it in platinum???????!11@1?

Coret wasnt even all that in UT 1 i mean WTF is the big hype about??JESUS!Finish the damm map already FFS!!!21!!2@1??@!1

Some people have lives... you should get one too.

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

Starting a map is tons of fun, finishing it can be hard as hell.

Difficulties are: Growing tired of a map, keeping the map coherent and fitting as a whole, maintaining the same amount of detail everywhere.

Once you're over the geometry part the end is in sight and then you just need to add the finishing touches.

[Grim]

http://amg.sytes.net/panneaux/pano59315.png

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Sorry you guys, I know its taken ages for me to do this. One thing or another has led to me not working on this for a few months now.

I recently lost my job as my contract ran out so the good news I suppose is that I have a bit of spare time on my hands.

That said I am still busy trying to find work but I am hoping to get a very basic BETA out within the next few weeks. This is mainly to see if I have the setup and size right. Also bits that everyone doesnt like will more than likely be changed.

So here are a few screenies.

Looking in to flag room
http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/coretnew1.jpg


Above flag where ASMD was
http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/menuselections/games/utpage/ut2003/maps/ctf/ctf-coret2k3/images/coretnew2.jpg

[|><|CELLENT]

If you cant work on it how about passing it to somebody else in the commuity to finish?? :p

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

lol that would definitely suck. You can't have the touch of two different persons on 1 map. You would see the difference too much.

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by SiR_CharLZ
If you cant work on it how about passing it to somebody else in the commuity to finish?? :p

Did you read what I put? :bulb:

I said I HAVENT worked on it for a few months and now I AM. Going to try and release a beta in a few weeks.
:confused:

;)

[legacy-Gui]

Will you leave him alone or not? :p Creative persons don't work well under pressure ;)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!

Looking great man, keep it up.

[Plumb_Drumb]

Sweet,
looks totally different with the new meshes.

[Grim]

Looking good red_dwarf as usual :D :D

[legacy-SilverSurfer]

ty red!!!!!
I had almost given up hope
if you need any help play testing it
or running through to look for bugs
Me and my clan would be happy to help

[legacy-SealClubber]

uhhhh... I still give up!!!


err... ur gonna have to post more pics :D :p ;)

[legacy-Foralarx]

Originally posted by SealClubber
uhhhh... I still give up!!!


err... ur gonna have to post more pics :D :p ;)

Keep the faith... it will come soon enough just like Teddie's next map .... I hope ;).

[legacy-zed_ziechn]

LEVEL 15!!! the perfect song for the new version. i was listening to fire-br(which is corets original song) and level 15. and they have the same exact fade in time. and the right tone and pitch to fithe the new version!!..

just a suggestion.

[legacy-Chris IX]

YEah that one sounds about right, but only if it's what u want Red D.

[legacy-Chris IX]

...Then again, still listening to it, it slows down too much in the middle, more like what you'd get in an outside map....

[legacy-zed_ziechn]

yeah, i completly agree with you but right after that it picks up..

either way the map looks totally awsome. cant wait rb!!!

[Grim]

weee!

/me brings out a chainsaw in case a beta gets released :sour:



j/k m8 :D :D

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Havent really thought about the music. Level 15? Wheres that from?


It's from the DE BonusPack. Nice track.

[legacy-SealClubber]

morepics!morepics!morepics!morepics!morepics!morep ics!


:up: :up: :up: :up: :eek:

:up: :up:

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Looks like thats the one I will use then :)

You might try out the other tracks that came with the DE BP too,
just to see if they fit the theme better. I am partial to Level15, but I am not sure how it will blend with your map.

Maybe Level9 or Level7 ??? Try them and see... Level7 has a nice continuous effect that is great for running hallways.

Level16 and Level11 are also good (although Level16 may not fit the map either...)

TRy aLL!!

:)

[legacy-Chris IX]

try kr-snipertime

[legacy-Foralarx]

Good news, waits ever patiently for the release. Thanks for the work RD.

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

hey RedDwarf

send me the map before you finish it...

i can help clean up any sticky collision and make sure its as optimized as possible when it ships

and not to mention... (and you know this about me already :p ) ... i am KING PERFECTIONIST bugfinder maan...

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by willhaven
hey RedDwarf

send me the map before you finish it...

i can help clean up any sticky collision and make sure its as optimized as possible when it ships

and not to mention... (and you know this about me already :p ) ... i am KING PERFECTIONIST bugfinder maan...

Agreed :)

I think it will have the Wills Seal of approval. Can remember all the flak we had with CTF-Deck16]I[ in the last few days. Then you found that error on the fans :) Loved that map though :up:

[legacy-SealClubber]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Seal of approval.

:D :up:


Thats right folks, this map is getting my approval!

:p

[legacy-Re.S.T.A.]

Music:

Level5.ogg

Level9.ogg(this one is reaaaally nice i think it would fit coret nicely :))

KR-Snipertime.ogg

Level16.ogg

KR-Fire.ogg (can always use the original:))

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Did a few hours last night, heres the room I worked on.

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/temp/coretnew4.jpg

http://www.reddwarf.f9.co.uk/temp/coretnew3.jpg

Its where the health vials are to the middle section. Still needs finishing, but I am happy with the way its turning out.

[InfiniteWeird]

Looks like it is turning out great dude! :up: Now if only server admins would put more good maps like this on their servers. :D

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

Could you tell us what rooms are already almost done and to your liking?

Just mark an x behind.

Flagroom
Shockrifle room
High escape
Flakroom
Lower hall
Rocketlauncher area
Minigun area
Healthstairs leading to high mid
Mid
High mid
Vial Area

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by GIdenJoe
[B]Could you tell us what rooms are already almost done and to your liking?



Flagroom = 80% done
Shockrifle room = 80% done
High escape = was 80% but now making wider so?
Flakroom = 90% done
Lower hall = 99% done
Rocketlauncher area = 50% done
Minigun area = 80% done
Healthstairs leading to high mid = Dont know where you mean :(
Mid - 0%
High mid - 0%
Vial Area - screenshot 70% done

When I sqay done I mean towards the beta. The lighting is only scetched in at the moment and there are things like textures, meshes and blockers, etc that need to be added or redone.

That said, I am just trying to get a playable map that people can give me feedback over first.

I have a couple of hardcore Coret nuts :) that are helping with what I have so far. Upper hallway they want a little higher and wider so thats going to be done. Plus I have been a bit sloppy with brush aligning so everything is going to 32 blocks now.

That said what I have isnt too bad and have had good feedback from these guys so things are looking up.

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Healthstairs leading to high mid = Dont know where you mean :(


Well when leaving lower hall through the door you can choose right (minigun) and left those few stairs with health on the right side that leads to the sniper and ut ripper. That hall is what I meant :)

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

Hey Red Dwarf, that map looks familiar :eek:

hehe :cool::up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by GIdenJoe
Well when leaving lower hall through the door you can choose right (minigun) and left those few stairs with health on the right side that leads to the sniper and ut ripper. That hall is what I meant :)

Ahh, in that case 80% done.

the G.o.a.T. is now helping me out with this map, so we should have something out soon....hopefully ;)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

Looks great man. Keep it up.:up: :D

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Ahh, in that case 80% done.

the G.o.a.T. is now helping me out with this map, so we should have something out soon....hopefully ;)

Heh, you could make the map with all ppl specialised in 1 thing.

Like a lighter, a pather, a modeller :p

Well this map will have alot of credits I think.

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

Originally posted by GIdenJoe
Heh, you could make the map with all ppl specialised in 1 thing.

Like a lighter, a pather, a modeller :p

Well this map will have alot of credits I think.

Right now I'm mostly working on redoing parts of the lighting as well as adding more details to it.
I'm also gonna adjust the top corridor, but that's gonna be a pain :x

[legacy-Sett]

Originally posted by GIdenJoe
Heh, you could make the map with all ppl specialised in 1 thing.

Like a lighter, a pather, a modeller :p

Well this map will have alot of credits I think.

I think Joe is on to something. The maps for 2k3 have been for the most part ah -sucky.

The reason I think that is -
A. noobies making they're first maps. And that is ok. You hafta start somewhere.
B. UT2k3 is hard to map for. The maps that come with UT2k3 are done by pros. With a mapper,modeler and a 2D artist minimum working on a single map. So it is no wonder that user-made maps suck in comparison.
B.(b) Custom StaticMeshes -I belive that this bogs many down. Mapping and modeling may use the same skills, but they are very different disciplines. Terrain - while fairly easy to make, it is just another thing that new mappers feel that they need to put into their maps.
B.(c) Textures- in UT1 tex. were super easy. Just make sure that they were powers of 2 (128x256) convert to .pcx then import done! UT2k3- .DDS .DTX,2,3,4,5? oi! import? export? Read this, D/L this from Nvida. jeez, more sh@t to read.

My Point?
Collaborations - Not MODs!
One map made by 2-3 people.

That's where quality will come from.

[InfiniteWeird]

Hey G.o.a.T. how in the world did you get that whole dual avatar thing going on?

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

Originally posted by X PsychoTron X
Hey G.o.a.T. how in the world did you get that whole dual avatar thing going on?

That's a left-over from ancient times :D

Back in the days you needed like 4000 posts or sumtin before you could have an avatar. But back then the forum didn't support avatars by default, so the admins hacked it in there. So I got my top-avatar back then.
Then when they upgraded to a new version of the forum they had avatars built-in. That's my lower avatar :D:up:

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

Originally posted by Sett
I think Joe is on to something. The maps for 2k3 have been for the most part ah -sucky.

The reason I think that is -
A. noobies making they're first maps. And that is ok. You hafta start somewhere.
B. UT2k3 is hard to map for. The maps that come with UT2k3 are done by pros. With a mapper,modeler and a 2D artist minimum working on a single map. So it is no wonder that user-made maps suck in comparison.
B.(b) Custom StaticMeshes -I belive that this bogs many down. Mapping and modeling may use the same skills, but they are very different disciplines. Terrain - while fairly easy to make, it is just another thing that new mappers feel that they need to put into their maps.
B.(c) Textures- in UT1 tex. were super easy. Just make sure that they were powers of 2 (128x256) convert to .pcx then import done! UT2k3- .DDS .DTX,2,3,4,5? oi! import? export? Read this, D/L this from Nvida. jeez, more sh@t to read.

My Point?
Collaborations - Not MODs!
One map made by 2-3 people.

That's where quality will come from.

You have some good points there. I've known/guessed this from before UT2003 even came out. When I was reading up on the game and things like static meshes came up I already had a feeling 'original' levels would require modeling skills, etc.

It's however possible to make good maps on your own. But then you will most likely be using standard meshes (which are good and can be reskinned btw ;)) and either put out a half-decent map or a decent map but then you put in a lot of time. I know :D

[InfiniteWeird]

Originally posted by the G.o.a.T.
That's a left-over from ancient times :D

Back in the days you needed like 4000 posts or sumtin before you could have an avatar. But back then the forum didn't support avatars by default, so the admins hacked it in there. So I got my top-avatar back then.
Then when they upgraded to a new version of the forum they had avatars built-in. That's my lower avatar :D:up:

Haha very cool! :D

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

The main problem is that everyone has a different vision on the things and maps usually reflect that. So if the entire team working on 1 map does share a common idea then it could work.

Then we could make a pipeline work here.

Storyline/theme designer ->

Floorplandesigner ->

-Modeller
-2dartist
-bsp and mesh adding
-skybox ->

Lighter ->

Item adder ->

Bothpathing ->

Debugger/tester -> back to above until fixed

Final toucher (screenie, mapmusic, info txt file, archiving and uploading)

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

At this moment in time I need help on fixing a few things.

If work was started it would make it hard to swap between I agree.

To explain its like me wanting someone to paint an idea I have on canvas and get them to work and draw/paint to my style.

Its hard.

I am also a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to visuals. Now I may up the FPS due to this but that will be sorted later ;) For now I just want to try and get my ideas on the canvas if you understand me.

As far as I am concerned the G.o.a.T. is going to attempt the hardest part of the map. Redoing the top corridor to a bigger size. This will be the sole reason for me to continue as I have done this bloody corridor 4 times myself. So big thanks to the G.o.a.T. as this project would be dead and burried if it wasnt for him.

Once I have everything down and we have a beta then the changes can be made.

Basically I have done 80% of the map so far, I just need help in repairing bits while it gives me incentive to carry on and finish it.

So hopefully it will still be my vision. Willhaven will also give it the final treatment which makes me feel pretty good about the map being to peoples taste and playing well. Willhaven has worked on a few major projects for companies and is a bit of a pro. He is also a bit of a perfectionist like myself so hopefully everything will be spot on.

So thats it for now. I will post a whole host of new pics when I have something new.

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Willhaven has worked on a few major projects for companies and is a bit of a pro. He is also a bit of a perfectionist like myself so hopefully everything will be spot on.

A bit of pro, that's an understatement imo :D

He gave me lots of feedback on my EgyptianArena][ as well provided a bunch of new ideas (such as the breaking floortiles, the rope-thing,...) which I simply didn't think of :cool::up:

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

I think this will be the first map made in a jointventure like this one and sofar it's coming along nicely.

Keep it up team. :)

[legacy-Chuklz]

These guys have been tight for years. They are some of the best in the community. This'll be a fun map.

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

Originally posted by GIdenJoe
I think this will be the first map made in a jointventure like this one and sofar it's coming along nicely.

Keep it up team. :)

http://www.planetunreal.com/willhaven/maps.htm

me, red dwarf and ultron worked on ctf-deck16]|[

i saw them working on it and forced my way onboard and made a lot of changes...

turned out to be a great CTF map...

was fun working with more than one person too..

because when youre stuck... you just ask someone else for their ideas

but yeah... i will give this map the same going over as i gave your map GOAT... maybe even more hands on than i did with yours (if theres more optimization to do that is)

coret cant be done in a ****ty manner... im going to see to it that its done justice... but it looks like red is doing a great job of mesh selection and placement to emulate the old coret style with the new details. i like what i see so far a LOT.

cant wait to get my hands on a copy to tear it to pieces :D

i remember the OLD OLD build you sent me RD... it was just one short chunk of hall with a particle sprayer and a big pit in the ground directing you towards where the flag room would be.

mamaries... er i mean... memories :eek:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by willhaven
http://www.planetunreal.com/willhaven/maps.htm

me, red dwarf and ultron worked on ctf-deck16]|[

i saw them working on it and forced my way onboard and made a lot of changes...

turned out to be a great CTF map...

was fun working with more than one person too..

because when youre stuck... you just ask someone else for their ideas

but yeah... i will give this map the same going over as i gave your map GOAT... maybe even more hands on than i did with yours (if theres more optimization to do that is)

coret cant be done in a ****ty manner... im going to see to it that its done justice... but it looks like red is doing a great job of mesh selection and placement to emulate the old coret style with the new details. i like what i see so far a LOT.

cant wait to get my hands on a copy to tear it to pieces :D

i remember the OLD OLD build you sent me RD... it was just one short chunk of hall with a particle sprayer and a big pit in the ground directing you towards where the flag room would be.

mamaries... er i mean... memories :eek:

Hehe, yeah. CTF-Deck16]I[ was a hassle map and no mistake. Can remember when the original GTF were screaming for it and we still had to fix a few issues. Man I had a real headache that night and didnt get to bed while after 3 :(

I am happy to report Mr Goaty :) has started work on the upper corridor yesterday and the Coret guru gave the new size the thumbs up along with the adjustments I did on the flak room.

I redid the lower corridor to suit the new upper size as the floor window was out of alignment.

Will do some more work on it today.

[legacy-ocr.D-Link*z0]

noticed :weird:

If u have any questions about item placement or something simply contact me at #ut.ocrana. I think we (OCRANA) can help u in some parts.

[legacy-the G.o.a.T.]

The upper corridor has been fully rescaled.

Now we need to adjust some meshes and stuff to fit the new size :bulb:

All is well :up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Just gone 12.30 and I have finished redoing and adding all the brushes in to the top corridor. I have now aligned them all and have put basic textures on them.

I am looking at an alpha release maybe in the next two weeks.

This will be only to test the flow of the map. Any visual changes or dislikes will also be done for the first beta.

Things are moving on now :)

Gonna try and do some work on the central area tomorrow.

Just thought I would keep anyone who is interested updated as I know its took a long time for me to get back round to doing this map :(

[Grim]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Just gone 12.30 and I have finished redoing and adding all the brushes in to the top corridor. I have now aligned them all and have put basic textures on them.

I am looking at an alpha release maybe in the next two weeks.

This will be only to test the flow of the map. Any visual changes or dislikes will also be done for the first beta.

Things are moving on now :)

Gonna try and do some work on the central area tomorrow.

Just thought I would keep anyone who is interested updated as I know its took a long time for me to get back round to doing this map :(

Oh I am interested allright :)

If you want we can exchange Alpha versions :)
You with your version of Coret and me with my version of Dreary :) :)

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

I would like to test out the map but I'll wait if I have to.

Thanks for the constant updates man. Everything sounds like it's going well. Keep it up.:up: :)

[legacy-Sleepless]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Willhaven will also give it the final treatment which makes me feel pretty good about the map being to peoples taste and playing well. Willhaven has worked on a few major projects for companies and is a bit of a pro. He is also a bit of a perfectionist like myself so hopefully everything will be spot on.


<hijack>

Willhaven owns. He is, by and large, the person responsible for me getting into mapping. I've been playing his **** since DM-StrictlyDiesel and loving it. I think the two people I aspire to be like most are him and Plutonic.

They don't publish much, but when they do, get ready, 'cause you know it's gonna be top quality.

And I'm STILL waiting for StrictlyDiesel2k3 Willhaven! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE READING THIS!!! ;) Make the map or i'll start hanging out in the STALKER forums more often and harassing the hell out of you!

</hijack>

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by Sleepless
<hijack>

Willhaven owns. He is, by and large, the person responsible for me getting into mapping. I've been playing his **** since DM-StrictlyDiesel and loving it. I think the two people I aspire to be like most are him and Plutonic.

They don't publish much, but when they do, get ready, 'cause you know it's gonna be top quality.

And I'm STILL waiting for StrictlyDiesel2k3 Willhaven! I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE READING THIS!!! ;) Make the map or i'll start hanging out in the STALKER forums more often and harassing the hell out of you!

</hijack>

He is quite a funny guy :):up:

Fortunately I seem to have been in the same forums with him since 1999. Always seems to help people out too :up:


Strictly Diesel was my first OMFG map that I saw :) It was the first map I messed around with in Ued as I wanted to mess around with pathing, so I guess Will is responsible for me mapping too.
Best not tell the girlfriend or she will castrate him, for all the hours I am at the PC :)

[legacy-Mofassa]

nice goin dwarf..i've been followin from the start 'n it keeps on getting better, i wouldn't mind alpha testing :P


but seriously...try to get scaling right..cause by far its the biggest problem in many maps out there right now

[legacy-Sleepless]

:haha: :up:

[InfiniteWeird]

I should start a willhaven - red dwarf fan club. :D

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by trogetta
nice goin dwarf..i've been followin from the start 'n it keeps on getting better, i wouldn't mind alpha testing :P


but seriously...try to get scaling right..cause by far its the biggest problem in many maps out there right now

Dont worry, from the feedback I have had they said its spot on bar the top corridor. Thats been changed now so alls well I hope.

[Grim]

I cant wait until I get my hands on this baby :D :D

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

/me pees himself with glee

too

much

attention

lol... thnx... im glad to see i inspired somebody. :D:up:

shane and pancho are both sexy sexy men who inspired me... well... they arent sexy sexy... but theyre men and theyve inspired me :D

strictly diesel 2k3? keep dreamin :)

[legacy-Sleepless]

I WANT MY STRICTLYDIESEL 2k3 :cry:

:p


You're welcome for the attention, now mail me some skill, asap :)

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by Sleepless
I WANT MY STRICTLYDIESEL 2k3 :cry:

:p


You're welcome for the attention, now nail me some skill, asap :)

:eek: Now theres attention but thats just going overboard ;)

[Plumb_Drumb]

LoLerIfic!

[Bjossi]

I´m waiting for this map alot. GIMME CORET2003 NOW!!:p

[legacy-Sleepless]

Dwarf, whys your quote say "nail" instead of "mail"?

[legacy-Chris IX]

lmao:haha:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

New update 24/04/03

90% done the upper U damage corridor.

http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00028.JPG
http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00029.JPGhttp://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00031.JPG

Redone all the angled corridors - 90% done

http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00030.JPG

Modified the Upper corridor just needs re texturing and new meshes making out of the brushes I have newly done.

Just got to start work on the lower middle level now and then we have an alpha. :)

[legacy-Mort_Q]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
New update 24/04/03

90% done the upper U damage corridor.

http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00028.JPG

http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00029.JPG

Redone all the angled corridors - 90% done

http://www.p.calvert01.btinternet.co.uk/Red/Shot00030.JPG

Modified the Upper corridor just needs re texturing and new meshes making out of the brushes I have newly done.

Just got to start work on the lower middle level now and then we have an alpha. :)

Looking good :up:

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

I was just thinking, on some of the areas like the angled corridors you can see a door jamb. Now For the sake of flow I am thinking of placing a 45 degree angled blocker there so you dont get stuck when running backwards.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this for some of the obsticles in the level. I have tried to keep it to a minimum but there are still a few.

[legacy-Chuklz]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
I was just thinking, on some of the areas like the angled corridors you can see a door jamb. Now For the sake of flow I am thinking of placing a 45 degree angled blocker there so you dont get stuck when running backwards.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this for some of the obsticles in the level. I have tried to keep it to a minimum but there are still a few.

I'd have to play test it under fire, running backwards with 3 flag returners on my ass to tell you how I feel ;)

[legacy-Gui]

Looks cool but also a bit dark: please, just tell me you forgot to brighter the screens... ;)

[legacy-Mofassa]

nice nice dwarf....although the upper corridor looks a bit too dark, try 'n get some nice lights in, or one of those fan projector thingies

[legacy-uTaBenoit]

O-M-G:eek:

That looks.....swweeeeeeeett.. I'd like to keep the corners and such as much like the regular coret if possible but if it really IS a problem, by all means fix it.;)

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
I was just thinking, on some of the areas like the angled corridors you can see a door jamb. Now For the sake of flow I am thinking of placing a 45 degree angled blocker there so you dont get stuck when running backwards.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this for some of the obsticles in the level. I have tried to keep it to a minimum but there are still a few.

put an angled blocking volume to keep yourself from getting snagged on ANYTHING

you shouldnt be able to get stuck anywhere

[legacy-Red_dwarf]

Originally posted by Red_dwarf
Now For the sake of flow I am thinking of placing a 45 degree angled blocker there so you dont get stuck when running backwards.


Originally posted by willhaven
put an angled blocking volume to keep yourself from getting snagged on ANYTHING


echo ;)

[-=¤willhaven¤=-]

yeah... basically im answering your question

im saying YES do it... everywhere you can

theres nothing more annoying than getting stuck on something

[legacy-Emmortal]

very nice job on this man, almost all the parts look like the orignal game....theres a few i seen that didn't....if everything was like the orig, it would be amazing....but besides all that....it looks hella good