[MAP:DM] Hyrule Castle (Released)

[legacy-Melaneus]

It's time to give up matching the original map and making it look awesome in 3d.

Nali city thrashed my map, I enjoyed it thouroughly. :D It really was lacking in a lot of departments. So that got me to thinking, how would my map not be thrashed by reviewers? It was time to give up near-likeness and add some UT2003 beauty to it.

[legacy-Rlyeh Ftaghn]

very good idea...hope you do a good job...

[legacy-FreebytesSector]

This is certainly something I want to see!

Freebytes of Sector
http://www.availableservices.com/ut/ut2003maps
BR-Captured.ut2 is released!

[legacy-MacHine2k]

yeah great i played zelda on snes thousend times :up:

[legacy-DuSt0fF]

Zelda is the shiznitz. Plz include some original music :D

[legacy-Jaspeer]

Rock on man! I loved the Zelda games, so I will be looking forward to seeing this! I was just thinking, oddly enough, that I thought it would be tight to play in a zelda map. Keep working, I want to play it! lol

Jaspeer
::Reeps::

[legacy-Radeon285]

O_o O_o O_o

holy ****

wow, im definitely checkin this out

[legacy-imel007]

WOAH! This would be KICKASS in multiplayer, keep us updated and try to include the original zelda music :D

Nostolgia.....

[legacy-SealClubber]

looking real sweet! I was a big fan of link to the past back in the SNES days - hopefully it wont have high fps :confused:


keep it up :up:

[legacy-nuclearfusion]

:OOOO
Scary thing is, I was just talking about this same thing yesterday.... :bulb:

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

Originally posted by Melaneus
I would not trust myself to place all the startpoints, weapons, AI paths, and whatnot for deathmatch... if anyone thinks they may be of some assistance please let me know!

I have alot of experience making deathmatch maps. I could be of much use to you.

[legacy-Da Wrecka]

Oooooh, looking nice. Now if I knew how to convert SPCs into UT2-compliant OGGs, we could have the music.

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

But first I need to find out how to make a skybox like in BR-Legacy for another map of mine :bulb:

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Da Wrecka
Oooooh, looking nice. Now if I knew how to convert SPCs into UT2-compliant OGGs, we could have the music.

There is an OGG version of the song... but I kept it separated from the map because I don't want to upload that 3 megs every time I update the map...

That file can be found here. (http://users.adelphia.net/~csdgames/Hyrule/hyrulesong.zip)

Ah, now if only if it was set up for game play...

[legacy-Smurgen]

Originally posted by Da Wrecka
Oooooh, looking nice. Now if I knew how to convert SPCs into UT2-compliant OGGs, we could have the music.




Its simple really
Use a good SPC plugin for winamp then use the Disk Writer plugin that came with winamp to convert it to a wav. From there you can use any of the OGG converters out there

[legacy-^OMFG!!]

Holy sh!t, Zelda flashback! :up: :) I love it... :D

[legacy-defalc]

Dude, I have 2 requests. I haven't tried the map yet, but:

- The roof. Like in Smash Bros. With the towers and junk. And with tornadoes off in the distance in the skybox or something.

- The music - either the 'classic' music they use in the Smash Bro's Hyrule Castle level, or the one from SSBM - the temple one. Damn that song owns.

[legacy-Akuun]

Someone make a 'sword' mod!! ;)

And maybe you should try making your own textures. That Egyptian sandy color is getting REALLY old.

Otherwise, great idea! :)

[legacy-DeadMan384AD]

oh man I feel like Link running around in there!!! Great job!!!

...someone should make a link character model! oh man that would be great! along with the sword mod (maybe have a shield) that would be awesome!

[legacy-Ph0b0s]

OMG! :D

ownage, I was just getting hyped today about link to the past coming out on GBA. Can't wait to try out this map :)

:cool::up:

[legacy-Sifpo]

After unzipping it, I have all the files (a usx, utx and the ut2) in the Maps folder, when I try to open it with Unreal it says 'Unable to find package for Zelda3' What am I doing wrong and anyone wanna play it online (list server IP/name) Thanks!

[legacy-SealClubber]

alright - one request....


u MUST have the theme song from the game when u entered the castle!!!


YOU KNOW!! THE ONE THAT STARTS WITH THE TRUMPETS!


THAT IS A MUST HAVE! :D

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by SealClubber
alright - one request....


u MUST have the theme song from the game when u entered the castle!!!


YOU KNOW!! THE ONE THAT STARTS WITH THE TRUMPETS!


THAT IS A MUST HAVE! :D

Check out the links on the first message of this thread. One is for the map, texture, and mesh file, and the other is the hyrule castle song from Zelda 3.

[legacy-dreamstation]

Ahh man this is gonna own! I loved the old zelda games! Best rpg's of their time! :)

[legacy-DraZtiK]

Originally posted by Melaneus

Oh yeah. Anyone want to make a torch-type emitter? Those floor torches need some action...

what kind do you want? any pics I can get a look at?

try this one


http://bdj.hopto.org/emitter.ut2

[legacy-Enigmabyte]

Awesome! Zelda was definitely one of my favs! I was actually thinking about doing a map of one of the castles from Zelda: The Ocarina of Time for N64. Can't wait to see the final version.

[legacy-Smurgen]

Hyrule field would be kinda neat
or maybe death mountain as CTF

[legacy-DraZtiK]

Originally posted by Melaneus
I've been doing some "decorating" of the courtyard. It's a little rough around the edges, but I think it's looking nice.

I feel like a real game developer. Next I will have to announce a delay, followed by a cancellation scare. Yeah. And I need lots of bugs to patch in the future.


LOL! two more weeks right?

and you got that volume around the fire?

[legacy-Enigmabyte]

Heres a link to some Zelda MP3's.

Zelda Music (http://www.ganonstower.com/mod.shtml)

Go down to where it says "Sound and Drama". They are in MP3 format though... I don't know if you could/want to convert them to ogg.

Just for reference.

[legacy-Akuun]

Another suggestion: Let's see how this map looks with cel shading :)

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Akuun
Another suggestion: Let's see how this map looks with cel shading :)

One cel shaded Zelda is enough.
Let the pros handle that one.

[legacy-acc]

Did someone say cell shading? :D

Converting mp3 to ogg is easy as pie, get OggDrog here (http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp).

The map looks cool, I can't wait for "when it's done" ;)

[legacy-SealClubber]

omg! this map is amazing! All that it needs is to be completed (outside and throne room) I have never seen a better 2d to 3d conversion! and the pings I get are amazingly great!


Please BY ALL MEANS, convert more maps from classic games!

:eek: :up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

From "SealClubber":
Please BY ALL MEANS, convert more maps from classic games!

Like what? Mario? Haw haw! A level one meter wide and a kilometer long... never mind.

The only game I can think of that I'd convert would be Zelda 3. You'd be lucky if I make another zelda map, though. Of course, with a lot of meshes and textures and conversion formulae in place...

Did I ever mention that I think the next Zelda after this cel shaded one should be based on Zelda 3's plotline? I thought the golden land/dark world theme was awesomeness. It would be interesting to see the mirror world concept applied to a 3D game... also I'd have the the seven wise men backstory really beefed up to be on the scale of the Lord of the Rings intro... mmmmmmm... epic battle sequences... Okay, enough dreaming for now.

[legacy-Melaneus]

More decoration progress...pillars, torches, and tapestries...

Here's the throne room...
http://users.adelphia.net/~csdgames/Hyrule/shot4.jpg

Man, I don't want to make thrones! Or that crazy sword thing behind them! :confused:

Uh... I might upload the latest map tomorrow... maybe...
Wish it had weapons and stuff...
;)

[legacy-SealClubber]

/me starts jumping up and down

"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"
"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"
"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"


:D

and have the green doors open and close :D :up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by SealClubber
/me starts jumping up and down

"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"
"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"
"YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE THRONE!"


:D

and have the green doors open and close :D :up:

Maybe tomorrow. Have to go to work now. I might... just might... add the thrones and doors...

[legacy-SealClubber]

Originally posted by Melaneus
Maybe tomorrow. Have to go to work now. I might... just might... add the thrones and doors...

*GuLp* :eek:


*in stimpy voice* "Jooooooyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeee" :D

add some statues also :D :D :D

[legacy-Akuun]

Originally posted by Melaneus
One cel shaded Zelda is enough.
Let the pros handle that one.

I was thinking along the lines of a more serious drawing style rather than the comical style that's being used in the Gamecube zelda.

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by SealClubber
add some statues also :D :D :D [/B]

You had to mention those. I have been dreading those since I first decided to make this map...

[legacy-SealClubber]

awww cmon! It dont have to be of a zelda guard, it could be a statue of a zan model like in UT :)


:up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by SealClubber
awww cmon! It dont have to be of a zelda guard, it could be a statue of a zan model like in UT :)


:up:

Anyone know how to go about exporting a character animation into a static mesh?

[legacy-Doctor7]

Originally posted by Melaneus
Anyone know how to go about exporting a character animation into a static mesh?

I believe there is a static mesh of one of the player models converted into a statue, in one of the EndGame packages

EndStatic.statue, by the look of it. It's over 3000 polys, though, so you don't want too many of them around.

I'm pretty sure the original UT models are available somewhere in 3DS or Lightwave format, they would be a more sensible polycount for a decoration. Or if there's a UT custom model you liked, see if you can get a static version from the original author.

[legacy-SealClubber]

Ive seen several maps wih the juggernaut as a statue, thats it though :(

[Angel_Mapper]

Right on, that looks exactly like I remember :D That would be awesome if someone turned Zelda into a single player mod for UT2k3 *hint hint wink wink*

[legacy-Melaneus]

Sorry, I decided to not go with statues. I made a substitute decoration instead. :cry: Yeah, some of you will be bummed out about it, but them's the breaks.

Oh, and I also denied another request... no swinging doors on the outside... how the heck will people properly get out?

Now I'm depressed that I didn't get a job I interviewed for. Don't expect too much from me...

[legacy-stockwiz]

nice. I have to see this one. Brings back memories of past christmases during my preteen years.

[legacy-Melaneus]

I need opinions on two things. First is if I should scale up the size of the level. If I do that I'd also like to know the best way to pull that off. The second is the rotating staircases. I can see how bots might have a problem getting up or down them... or will scaling up the map fix it up or something? Ah well. Just tell me if you see any serious flaws with the map or have any great ideas that may be in my range of accomplishment.

[legacy-Krambo]

nice map. :up: :up: :up:


Hope you find out how to scale it up properly!

[legacy-Dirtybob]

I just played the map, its not bad but the scaling is off. You need to scale it up 1 to 1.5 times.

[legacy-st3w]

:up: nice work m8 keep it up :up:

[legacy-Label]

NICE!!! :) :up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

I've scaled up the map 1.5 times. Yep, it looks like it plays better.

[legacy-Jon_the_Cynic]

http://www.desertcrisis.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000053

My map (which is almost the exact same thing) for a lesser-known mod for Half-Life called Desert Crisis. And I finished it a while ago. :D

[legacy-Jon_the_Cynic]

Note, the guy who used to host screenshots of my map replaced them.. bastard guy :mad:

Download Desert Crisis, (www.desertcrisis.com) or just load the map up in Single Player HL if you wanna see it.

Also, you can do whatever you like since this is your map, but I would like yours smaller. o_O I feel like I'm a midget. And yes I know Link was a midget too, but most UT2K3 players aren't Link. :D The players look too small in comparison to the map IMHO; I'd rather have them appear taller and the same width, than the same height and a lot skinnier.

[legacy-Dirtybob]

Since you scaled up map, post a new link so i can download the new map. :D

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Dirtybob
Since you scaled up map, post a new link so i can download the new map. :D

I just replaced the old file. Here it is:
http://users.adelphia.net/~csdgames/Hyrule/HyruleCastle.zip

[Sharpfish]

Glad you scaled it up - I played the earlier version and thought it very cool - but cramped - getting hooked up on the stairways etc..

to the other guy about scaling - when PLAYING it feels right but the reason most characters looks tiny is cos EPICS scaling is off - its hard to get right atm between first/third person. - the maps that look good in third person (Curse3 for example) are a little too tight from the players point of view. Hopefully they can either scale down the first person or scale up how we see others.

Sharpfish


http://www.realityfakers.freeuk.com/gfx/sigbar.jpg

[legacy-Dirtybob]

Yes the map plays 100 times better since you took my suggestion and scaled it up. You are not done yet, you have to add in the details "eye candy" this one of elements that make a great map. So go ahead and model Zelda's throne and what ever else you think will add to beauty of your map. Another element you have to consider, say to yourself "what makes my map stand out above other maps?" You need to put in a element of FUN! Example secret doors, secret areas, fun things and off the wall game play. Also choose some mood music for your map,listen to zelda mp3's convert the one you like most to ut2003 format and have it with your map for distribution.


Go all out with your map pretend you are getting graded for it in school.

-Dirtybob:D

[Sharpfish]

He has got zelda music with it.. it was a seperate d.l i think but he did do it and it fits nicely.

Sharpfish


http://www.realityfakers.freeuk.com/gfx/sigbar.jpg

[legacy-Dirtybob]

Thnx i just got the music file, i wish it was all zipped up together.;)

[legacy-Smurgen]

keeping the music seperate keeps the filesize down since the map is still in beta
i'm sure when he makes it final it will be ready in one nice zip

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Smurgen
keeping the music seperate keeps the filesize down since the map is still in beta
i'm sure when he makes it final it will be ready in one nice zip

Exactly. The song file is what, 3 Mb and the map and all its support files are 1 Mb... I don't want to take four times as long to upload every time. Don't you worry, though. The final release will be one all-encompassing file.

[legacy-mattdude14410]

missing a pakage called "zelda3statistics" :down: :( help me out here man. i want to play the map. the screenies make it look like it owns

-matt

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by mattdude14410
missing a pakage called "zelda3statistics" :down: :( help me out here man. i want to play the map. the screenies make it look like it owns

-matt

The Zelda3Statics file should be in the zip, and it goes in the StaticMeshes directory. Also, the texture file Zelda3 goes in the Textures directory.

[legacy-mattdude14410]

Originally posted by Melaneus
The Zelda3Statics file should be in the zip, and it goes in the StaticMeshes directory. Also, the texture file Zelda3 goes in the Textures directory.

ya... i downloaded the new version and i redid it. it worked. thnx anyways. very nice map too melaneus. it brought me back to thepast so much that i had to go play zelda for a bit.... i had forgotten everything... :D but i did get to hyrule and walked around. perfect renderition! :D awsome job!

-matt

[legacy-Melaneus]

I'm housesitting for a relative so I won't have much access to my computer for the next week. I've been setting up some "extras" on the map, but I won't have them complete until I return after Thanksgiving. I'll try and get my messages as often as possible.

Happy Thanksgiving in advance.

[legacy-SealClubber]

omg - thats sad!

people arent confident in making thier own threads advertizing thier own map, so they advertize thier maps here! :sour:

this thread is about DM-HyruleCastle - not your map!

go away!:mad:

[legacy-EyeDacor]

This map is realy nice! http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/otn/blobs/multi.gif

[legacy-Shatorb]

Melaneus, You got any new pics to show us how everythings goin? Thanx

[legacy-Jon_the_Cynic]

Originally posted by SealClubber
omg - thats sad!

people arent confident in making thier own threads advertizing thier own map, so they advertize thier maps here! :sour:

this thread is about DM-HyruleCastle - not your map!

go away!:mad:

My map isn't even for this GAME. I already made a thread for my map in the forums of the appropriate game. I was just showing Melaneus similar work I have done, and offering suggestions that I think would improve his. It's his final decision though.

Oh, and about the scaling thing, I haven't read these forums in a while, so I didn't know until I looked for myself. Yeah, the scaling in UT2K3 is universally a bit off, now that I think about it.

[legacy-Devastation 8]

I just now played in this map...and i got to tell you, it ownz! godamn i love it! even though i played little in teh actual game (Zelda that is). just one thing i noticed wrong - bot pathes in the prison cells down below...a bot went running from a cell to teh next all teh time...she got stuck in teh table and got back and done it again...so i had no bot coverage...against two angry godlike bots :bulb:...well, i won teh match...

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Devastation 8
I just now played in this map...and i got to tell you, it ownz! godamn i love it! even though i played little in teh actual game (Zelda that is). just one thing i noticed wrong - bot pathes in the prison cells down below...a bot went running from a cell to teh next all teh time...she got stuck in teh table and got back and done it again...so i had no bot coverage...against two angry godlike bots :bulb:...well, i won [sic] teh match...

I'll look into that tomorrow.

I'll try some screenshots, too. I've added a few 'secrets' to allow for jumping to other parts of the map. It's mostly to make the map less linear.

[legacy-Melaneus]

Now there are some warps to get around the level. I thought of the sparkles that the mirror made from the game as the basis for the emitter.

Feedback is sweet. If you have any technical issues with the map, I would very much like to hear about it. If you have any aesthetic suggestions, within reason, I'd would like to hear about it too. As for my personal goals... the top 5 things I need to do before this goes gamma. I mean, final release.

1. Make bushes for courtyard
2. Make better dungeon table
3. Add a few details outside of courtyard walls
4. Maybe a Triforce decoration for the outside tower
5. Lighten up a few very very dark corners

I feel the level's work coming near an end... or maybe it's my patience. :p

[legacy-Buckyfg]

wow, great concept, one of my favorite games when I started gaming.

Going to try it out. koolio

Update: damn talk about flashbacks, great job!!!

[legacy-Melaneus]

Sometime this weekend I am going to make the official release of this map. I just want to run some last things by my people.. heh heh. You know who you are.

This is your last chance to warn me of major flaws in the map! I'm going to try making more original maps after this.

May the triforce be with you.

Mel's conscience: :sour: No more stupid puns.

[Mr. Brownstone]

Wow, what an original map!

I still to this day hold that Zelda: A Link To The Past is one of the best games that I’ve ever played (big kid, me :p). It’ll be great to strut around in the Castle from a whole new perpective. Downloading now. :up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

That's it! It is my official release! Sorry for all the blasted wait for this critical moment!

[legacy-Zwergor]

where is link to final?

beta was awesome!

[legacy-Zwergor]

where is link to final?

beta was awesome!

[legacy-Zwergor]

sorry hopw can i delete double posts

[legacy-CurlyJ]

Ive never played the game on the console - though I loved both zelda games on the N64.


So, I wanted to point out to others who have not played the original game that this map is based on - this map plays VERY well!!!

Well done - super job!!! 10/10


:up: :up: :up:

[legacy-Melaneus]

Download it here (http://www.pcgamemods.com/file.php?id=acf4b89d3d503d8252c9c4ba75ddbf6d)

I also submitted it to PCGameMods.com, so it may be available there as well sometime...

Now it's off to make an original map design!

[legacy-SealClubber]

Damn great job man! Congrats! Perfect conversion! :up: :up: :up:

[legacy-DuSt0fF]

omfg

TEH CUTE

i LUB the music

now could someone plz make some Zelda - The Ocarina of Time remakes PLZ PLZ PLZ :D :up:

[legacy-War Mech 841k]

Awesome job!!! Nice touch with music and everything. Now your next project I have for you is.....
Baron Castle from Final Fantasy II (FF IV Japan) the SNES game with Cecil, Kain etc. :D FF II has some good music too.

[legacy-MacHine2k]

yes very good map i like the outside very much
the beta was good but this is much more better
good job :up:

[legacy-TheSquirrelKing]

God bless you sir! Zelda rules, and so do you for bringing us this wonderful bit of nostalgia! Im sorry, I get a little carried away with emotion sometimes...

[legacy-Melaneus]

Well, I decided to take a break from SwitchArsenal and get back to some Zelda mappin'. I am now deviating from the original game layout and going for better visuals and gameplay. Here's the little bit I've done so far.

http://users.adelphia.net/~csdgames/Hyrule/Hyrule2a.jpg
The outdoor area is now twice as big instead of 1.5 times as big as the original design. Expect to see a few towers sometime in the future.

http://users.adelphia.net/~csdgames/Hyrule/Hyrule2b.jpg
Mmmmm...Sexay 3d doors. The arrow-looking gate opens separately from the blue door.

[Kyllian]

I have a guitar version of the Zelda music in case you're interested.

And the screenies look great

[legacy-Devastation 8]

Wow, that's pretty awsome.

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by Kel
I have a guitar version of the Zelda music in case you're interested.

And the screenies look great

Which song? There are so many... I have all of the original SNES songs, as well as many a remake...

[Kyllian]

I think the snes intro music. Its about 1.80 Mb, I could email it to ya if you like

[legacy-tekamuchi]

It would be great if a Hyrule Map came out. Hopefully it'll look a bit like the level from Smashbros melee:p But how big would the level be? :weird:

[legacy-Melaneus]

Originally posted by tekamuchi
It would be great if a Hyrule Map came out. Hopefully it'll look a bit like the level from Smashbros melee:p But how big would the level be? :weird:

I made a hyrule castle map, and it's available at UT2003hq.com and PCGameMods.com. It's designed to resemble the original map from the SNES zelda as much as possible.

[legacy-tekamuchi]

Thats cool, i think i'll go and download it now, by the way, on the Unreal2k3 stat thing i'm tekamuchi, as in the game.:D