[Map: DM] 2019][ [Linkage to screenies only]

[legacy-Childboy]

Here! (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?threadid=134334)

Author is Angelheart, need to say more? :D
I hope he releases this map soon!! :up:

edit: oops..... sry didn't get enough sleep

[Plumb_Drumb]

link's broken.

[legacy-bobnumber2]

you have to copy and paste it because childboy is a dumbass. he wanted the link to say here! instead he made it link to here! and the link says the place he wanted to link to

[Plumb_Drumb]

that's fukin hilarious.

thanks for the tip

[Plumb_Drumb]

Holy Crap!!!
That sh1t looks amazing!

Angel Heart impresses once again. Imagine what he will be doing with this engine a year down the road....


People can have thier Hall of Giants ports, heehee. While I sneak off to play something good, like an AngelHeart map.

[legacy-MacHine2k]

WOW :eek:

I WANT THIS MAP!!!

[SerialK]

Originally posted by Childboy

Author is Angelheart, need to say more? :D


I fear you would have had to say more. Few people here have discovered the perfection of INF.... ;)

[legacy-Jigen]

awesome... Love it, it's like Blade Runner

[edit : now we need Priss and the replicants]

[legacy-shagmaster2039]

god bless that shyte looks amazing...just what I was looking for...
more of an urban sci fi feel...looks like a dues ex type setting just with way better graphics!!! Kick A$$!!!!

somebody post a link as soon as that bad boy is available for download...

[legacy-Abyss2k]

atmosphere looks really good mate keep it up :)

[legacy-Wulfieboy_2001]

I hope this map will be released soon,because with those screenshots it will be an awesome map to play...I Want It Now...
I give these screenshots :up: :up: :up:

Greetz_Wulfieboy_2001

[legacy-Helios]

hehe yeah you needed to say more, I hadn't heard from him before this thread.
His stuff looks ammaaazing though! I hope he makes some fine stuff :)

[legacy-toolboi]

Oh my god... he has Karma powered crates... (edit: or does he...)
I was thinking of making a level based on movable crates/barrels, having an example of how to do it would ROCK.
Oh, and this is the best looking map Ive ever seen for any game.

[legacy-SpacePirate]

Damn you Childboy :mad:

:D ;)
Seriously, I was under the impressoin Angelheart has released this map .. :-( .. damn.
I've followed work the never released UT version back in april... never had the chance to try the beta.. sigh.

Me wants this map badly :-)

[legacy-SPANKIN']

nice map --- how long till its finished?

[legacy-Childboy]

heh spacepirate u didn't catch that i did mention link to screenies only ;)

yeah it's an awesome map and i hope he releases it soon!

to those won't didn't know, Angelheart is quite well known for his high-detailed and realistic maps for UT
This guy is a great mapper period. :D

[legacy-[SEOD]--|Ripley]

Now this is 1 map im really looking foward to playing.

[legacy-^»{@mBRo$e}«^]

I wonder how the bots play in this map..

Seeing the screens i must say.. it owns! :up:

[legacy-Technoid12]

I want that can :eek:

[legacy-RagingSamster]

Few people here have discovered the perfection of INF....

AMEN!

and for added emphasis:

Angelheart maps ownz j00!!11!!

the attention to detail shines through in his maps, always playable, always detailed and for INF maps hyper realistic (It ownz CS)

[legacy-SpacePirate]

Originally posted by Childboy
heh spacepirate u didn't catch that i did mention link to screenies only ;)


I know I'm blind :haha: :up: Damn, it's just when I see that name I expect it to be released.. next time I'll read the entire thread title :D




yeah it's an awesome map and i hope he releases it soon!

to those won't didn't know, Angelheart is quite well known for his high-detailed and realistic maps for UT
This guy is a great mapper period. :D

Agree.

[legacy-DVX_rIpTOr]

I have a feeling that this map is going to own everyone's Pc

[legacy-Mortag]

That's what I'm looking for: really good maps for ut2k3 :D
Not those conversions of old UT maps that look the same way they did 3 years ago.

[legacy-Hyd]

Very nice textures but the level of detail is no good :) But the map will be very Nice !! Good Work !!

[legacy-Justintime]

:eek:

[legacy-Stranger_NL.]

Check out the download HERE in this thread... 50 MB this sucker!!

http://www.beyondunreal.com/dl.php/realmaps/angelheart/DM-2019.zip

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145609

[Plumb_Drumb]

OMG he actually released that bad boy!?

THere is no way its playable, but I have to check it out anyway...

Thanks Stranger_NL.

[legacy-Buckyfg]

Originally posted by toolboi
Oh my god... he has Karma powered crates... (edit: or does he...)
I was thinking of making a level based on movable crates/barrels, having an example of how to do it would ROCK.
Oh, and this is the best looking map Ive ever seen for any game.

Well first of all, he said he has the first karma object ever, not so, I have 8 of them in Marsbase3000 (first map I've ever made) that was released in NOV.

and I hope hes figured it a trick to make them work out because it doesnt work online.

Map looks really kool, we've needed more urban types, I'll be making one after my next two maps are released, in a few weeks.

50MEGS? I hope he compressed the textures, damn thats big! if he has then thats going to be one crazy map, downloading now, looks awesome

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by Buckyfg

Map looks really kool, we've needed more urban types, I'll be making one after my next two maps are released, in a few weeks.


Please make one that's playable on 21st century technology

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

Eh, I like his dm-metropolis better :o

[legacy-Buckyfg]

Originally posted by Plumb_Drumb
Please make one that's playable on 21st century technology

What do you mean man? I have a amd 1.3 and a G3 ti 500 (med specs by todays standards) and my maps have been relativly smooth, I admit I get carried away with the detail sometimes.:)

Marsbase3000 is a bit more demanding if thats the one you mean, it was my first map so I was learning, people have told me it ran really smooth on there machines, mine has a few stutters but no slide show.

Its really a hard thing to make a detailed and perfectly smooth map. by detail I mean no barren walls e.t.c alot of the official maps are actually pretty bare. well laid out & smooth but pretty bare on the small details.

[Plumb_Drumb]

Actually I was speaking in relation to AngelHeart's map. It obviously has a lot of **** going on in it, and I doubt I will be able to get very much performance out of it.

Of course, he did say it isn't really for playing, but for looking at. I guess I don't need mroe than 15 fps to look around. :rolleyes:

[legacy-Buckyfg]

It does look damn impressive, grabbing it now

[legacy-Buckyfg]

OMFG, that is the crazyist most detailed map I've seen yet, unfookinbelievable man.

It took like a full minute to load though lol. the amount of time he must have spent on it is NUTSSS!!..


Must at least give it a try. not really smooth for me on med detail on a AMD1.3 512ram G3 ti 500

[legacy-mrblog]

YES! Been waiting for this one forever! ....well, a couple of months anyway....

[legacy-Helios]

Originally posted by Packet £o§§
Eh, I like his dm-metropolis better :o

??? issit out already ??? or are you talking about the looks?
If so, could you gimme TeH LiNk :D

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

Originally posted by Helios
??? issit out already ??? or are you talking about the looks?
If so, could you gimme TeH LiNk :D

Just talkin about the looks of it, looks more appealing to me thats all.

[legacy-Loosecontroll6]

Wooohooo!.
I was gonna post the link to AH map.

Oh well.

This looks Amazing.

:D

[legacy-Footbagger]

Played the map, must say it's a beast. I literally ran around for an hour making sure I covered every square inch, hehe. :)

[legacy-mrblog]

Best looking map ever.

Too bad I'll have to wait for a hardware upgrade or two before i'll be able to play it.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

My voodoo is gonna love this. :haha: Downloading now.

[legacy-Devastation 8]

Holly ****!

It IS finished!! DLing ASAP!

EDIT: Here's another link for it
http://www.jcfal.clara.net/Uploads/DM-2019.zip

[legacy-Splatter{uD}]

Everything is so done to scale. u really notice how oversized the weapons picks ups are here.

[legacy-Doctor7]

You also notice how tall you seem to be in first-person. But I won't restart the scale debate here, it's going to be an issue with any realism map.

Also, don't expect any cool Karma deaths. The one bit of attention to detail which is missing is that none of the custom meshes have collision.

Apart from that, amazing map, just the kind of thing I wanted to see in this engine :up:

[legacy-Devastation 8]

I got 6 fps in there :down::bulb:.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

It didn't seem to run too bad for me. It's a great map just to walk around in. Could do with blocking volumes to stop you being able to jump out of the level in so many places. Some little puppet blokes walking around would have been nice though. :(

[legacy-MadJackMcJock]

Bloody 'ell. This map is incredible to look at. I can forget about playing it though. Has anyone managed to get a good frame rate out of it and if so what are yer specs????

[legacy-Doctor7]

Originally posted by MadJackMcJock
Bloody 'ell. This map is incredible to look at. I can forget about playing it though. Has anyone managed to get a good frame rate out of it and if so what are yer specs????

I can get a bearable framerate - I tried it with default bot count - but there's a huge stutter every time I enter a new zone. I have P41.6, 512Mb RAM and a TI4400 128Mb - I suspect the RAM, followed by the graphics card memory, will make the most difference on a map like this.

[legacy-adv1]

Well, the map seems to be virtually unplayable on all but the lowest detail settings (or most powerful PCs), but it's still the most impressive map I've yet seen.

Absolutely huge and packed full of details and places to go which people will probably miss the first few times they play.

Exactly the sort of map UT2003 needs, to show that it can break away from all the usual desert/space/gothic maps. Incredible work, and any BladeRunner fan's dream map.

[legacy-//SGT.SKINNER\\]

I've been waiting to try this one. This map looks absolutely stunning.

[legacy-0Xcel]

Now this is a real good looking map, great on the visuals, just great, of course i dunno if its good for gameplay.

I have a REALLY bad problem with this map, when playing by myself it stutters, and when i play with bots, it stutters even more, its really annoying and very unplayable. (Tried changing settings such as karma low because i know this map uses karma)

Plus there is a whole lot of crap outside of the map, try jumping out of the map, theres ALOT of empty floor, and ALOT of useless buildings which you cant see from the main bit anyway because of the fog.

EDIT:i get about 40-60 fps, and sometimes it boosts upto 100 inside places.

[Plumb_Drumb]

IT"S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay so I finally tried the map.
After the full minute it took to precache all the textures, I was in.

FIrst thing I noticed was that I was getting more fps than DM-Antalus. THis is a very good thing. I dont think I ever dropped below 29 fps, usually staying at around 45-50. I play at 1024x768x32 with everything on high except texture detail which is on normal.

This map is not very playable for a UT2003 map as you are moving too fast and the place seems a little cramped, but it would be great for a realism mod such as Infiltration if it ever comes over to UT2003.

I didn't like how some of the meshes didn't have collision, becasue while its fun to cick around the shopping carts with your rocket launcher, it also sucks when they dissapear behind a wall
:(
(also some models wre just plain goofy looking, like the femaile characters strewn about as health pickups)

There is so much going on in this map thanks in part to the mass amount of textures. I think if you have a graphics board with 128 mb of RAM on it, and enough system memory than this map is no problem to run, as the poly counts arent really that high.
I have a ti4600 and 512 mbs ram and i didn't get one hitch the whole time.

I thought some of hte textures were estremely ugly. I don't always like photo scanned textures but most of these looked good. Up close you could see ugly black outlines on a lot of the transparent texture areas.
But this map is really all about atmosphere, which it has in spades. Sounds are everywhere, and the place just feels like a place.

Most of the detail in this map is in the textures. It may have looked better if some things were accomplished by using more polycounts, but then it would render hte level unplayable on less than a 9700pro or GeForceFX card.

This map is an experience. (i really liked it when i found my way to the rooftop behind the "TDK" neon sign, where the Lightning gun is, i was like "wow" llooking across the street at the "titty twister" :haha: )

[legacy-Railgunner]

DROOL

Thank god that will work on specs like mine! :eek:

[legacy-//SGT.SKINNER\\]

I just played the map. I'm in complete shock.

I'm able to get around 30 fps with everything on max and a res of 1600x1200 32 bit. Some areas it dips below that....but my god...this map is just flat-out awesome. You don't see this level of detail from the big guys. I wanted to hop in the police car and fly around so bad..but unfortunately, you can't. That's how emersive the map is. Things look very real here. Excellent texture work. There's a ton of cool areas to explore too. I can't imagine how long this took to make.

It has some issues, but overall it's worth checking out to see the amazing work put into this map.

MUST. SEE. MAP.

Epic/DE/Legend...keep your eye on Angelheart. Seriously.


My specs to play this map:

AMD 1.4
768 megs DDR
9700 Pro 128 DDR

[legacy-Railgunner]

I was in complete shock too.

I got 15 fps on these specs :eek:

500mhz
128mb ram
32mb card
1gb Virtual Memory.

[legacy-MadJackMcJock]

Originally posted by Doctor7
I can get a bearable framerate - I tried it with default bot count - but there's a huge stutter every time I enter a new zone. I have P41.6, 512Mb RAM and a TI4400 128Mb - I suspect the RAM, followed by the graphics card memory, will make the most difference on a map like this.

You still get zoning with those specs?? Has anyone got a rig with no zoning??? What detail settings were you at?? And I thought Crookedforest was monster.....

I just had a second fly around in it - the level of detail in this map really is amazing. But I agree there's a lot of inefficiency in the out of play terrain areas.

But damn this map is a looker!!!

[legacy-Helios]

It's awesome:eek:
The city is amazingly detailed and huge.
This map realy must have taken a lot of time.
It reminds me of the best piece of deus ex namely hong kong, but this looks a lot bigger and more detailed though, it's great.
I would love to see him make a single player mod:up:

[legacy-dreamstation]

Added to UT2003HQ - http://www.ut2003hq.com/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1349

47.7 mb for a map is insanely large, but i must admit the map does look quite good.

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

I'm gonna keep my mouth shut on what I think about this map, compared to his other UT ones.

[legacy-DuSt0fF]

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-12-17_23.50]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel PentiumPro-class processor @ 670 MHz with 255MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti (4072)

CreateTexture failed(8007000E).

History: FD3DTexture::Cache <- FD3DRenderInterface::CacheTexture <- FD3DRenderInterface::HandleCombinedMaterial <- FD3DRenderInterface::SetSimpleMaterial <- FD3DRenderInterface::SetMaterial <- FStaticMeshBatchList::Render <- RenderLevel <- FLevelSceneNode::Render <- RenderLevel <- FLevelSceneNode::Render <- RenderLevel <- FLevelSceneNode::Render <- RenderLevel <- FLevelSceneNode::Render <- FPlayerSceneNode::Render <- UGameEngine::Draw <- UWindowsViewport::Repaint <- UWindowsClient::Tick <- ClientTick <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop

A lack of virtual memory error occured for me in HOLY **** mode, now to attempt everything off/lowest :o

[legacy-Railgunner]

how about making your Virtual Memory to 1GB? I do that. :p

[legacy-DuSt0fF]

Let's not get into a virtual memory discussion and say we did :)


The map : I'm awestruck and speechless, I wish i could see it a full details. First thought it WOWOWOWOW and then oooh cramped

it's ok, ownage worthy :D :up:

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

Well ok I dont want anyone to hate me but I found a few parts of the map to be um, blah. First of all he coulda made the chandelier in the house 3d instead of that flat 2d thing. Just my opinion.

The music, he coulda made something more urbanish to suit the environment instead of using the game's menu music.

I saw a numerous amount of textures being used from his old UT maps however, I felt that was somewhat dissapointing. But I think his DM-Metropolis looks better, this one just didnt "do it" for me. Just my two cents. :up:

[legacy-Doctor7]

Originally posted by Packet £o§§
I'm gonna keep my mouth shut on what I think about this map, compared to his other UT ones.

He's obviously still learning what's possible with UEd 3 - a lot of it is built as if it was a UT map - most of those textures are low-res compared with the average UT2003 ones, but I'd hate to think what the performance would do if they were all 512x512 and 1024x1024. And none of his custom statics have collision, and some of them are much higher-poly than they needed to be.

However, it's a better looking map than most of us who know the editor well will ever produce.

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

Ok but if he's really "that good" with UED2, dont ya think he woulda taken more time to do something a bit more advanced? Sure he's a smart guy and all and an aswesome mapper, but if I was him I woulda taken more time to explore the editor's advanced features, to produce a more high quality map. I'm sure he's more than got the skills.

[legacy-DaNcO]

This is what I call an art map. Big, detail, well constructed but lacks weapons/ammo/items and game flow. Kind of reminds of playing duke3d city maps. It was well worth the look though if you like to admire eye candy.

[legacy-ImJacksAmygdala]

Holy **** what a monstrosity!:eek: I'm not even attempting that map untill I build my new computer...

Warning! Do not attempt this map if you have a

1.3 P4
128mb pc800
1gig swap file
GF4 4600ti (I know, I bought it awhile ago for my next comp, but will prolly upgrade it anyway)
Tweaked everything to the max (but still looks good, not lego at all 1024x768x16 everything on low but world detail normal, lots of other tweaks and tweaked LOD)(graphics drivers are tweaked to the max too, even my RAM usage is tweaked)(even my swap file is tweaked)

I got 0-60 fps but I had to turn around very slowly or my comp would start swapping and hitching horribly due to my lack of RAM. I also use precaching so it took about 10 minutes to load the map.

It's very cool and I hope maps look like this when the hardware catches up. I just hope as much considerations is given to the gameplay of the map. This one is just for looks folks. I can't imagine an actual game played on this map. But it sure looks great when you not hitching! :confused: :up:

[legacy-Doctor7]

Originally posted by ImJacksAmygdala
This one is just for looks folks. I can't imagine an actual game played on this map.

I was actually quite surprised, i was expecting it to be for looks only, but the layout is reminiscent of some of the more playable urban maps for UT. So you might not be using the extra UT2003 moves very much, but it would work, especially as a TDM.

I don't know how much more mapping Angelheart is intending to do for UT2003, but I'd like to see a version of this with the boundaries sorted out, more optimisation, proper collision on the meshes and re-done item placement. I think it could end up as a playable map without sacrificing the looks.

[legacy-ImJacksAmygdala]

Well maybe that was a little harsh. For those that may be able to smoothly run this map it, the layout may be very fun. I was just trying my hardest to look around. I shouldn't have put it like that.

But with the weapon and item placement the way it is, its looks to me like more of an experiment than a functional layout. Dunno, just my 2cents.

[legacy-Helios]

LOL wuts up with everyone' s performance, it runs fine here.

I've got a geforce3 ti200 and PIII 1,8 and 512 blabla. I didn't do any tweaking and my whole comp is a mess and still it's running fine.
Just put everything on low and rez on 800x600.

Btw I kinda agree with you on the gameplay, this map isn't the best for the over the top UT2k3 weapons, but IMO would just be fine with the upcoming strike force kinda mods.

[legacy-HortonsWho]

Runs fine on "normal" or lower settings. Setting texture and world detail to high looked great... I had time to notice how great it looked since I was getting 3 FPS... :p P4 2.3 533, 512mb, GF3 (yeah--that's the problem... gimme that new FX!).

The Bladerunner feel was very cool... great sound work. Felt a lot like a Deus Ex level. Nice

[Sharpfish]

an amazing piece of work - as a enviroment "creation", obv not the best for an online multiplayer map.. but he has poured his heart and soul into this. :up:

The only thing is he didn`t optomise it much at all, for instance I just halved the file size in 10 minutes in the editor just by compressing all the RGBA and P8 Textures... this would also help the performance a LOT with less actual memory taken up.

Of course the downside is some texture will look a little uglier and some cant be done so easy (with alpha channels dxt1 is out).

I was in the process of doing a `neon-precint` CTF level, I`d planned it all out but had only just started it.. I just scrapped it after I saw this map come out as anything else would just be called a copy or be missing this maps detail.

Sharpfish
R.I.P M.Gibb 1949-2003

[legacy-Buckyfg]

Originally posted by Helios
LOL wuts up with everyone' s performance, it runs fine here.
Just put everything on low and rez on 800x600.

I think any map would run after doing that :) , but you dont get what he intended.

I was hoping it would be playable on med details at 1024x32 but its still a bit choppy, considering all the damn detail thats still pretty good.

Helios, I bet that people havent even tried it at that setting and just wrote of the gameplay, so I agree with ya.

[legacy--=WhiteWulf=-]

It just thrashes the living hell out of my hard drive even thou I got 1gb ram :weird:

[legacy-kEKS]

looks fookin nice, but it's too damn big for a dm map. seriously, to me the scale seems WWAAAYY off. running around for ages without seeing any enemies isn't that much fun.
its very impressive though.

seems to me it'll suit a mission of some sp-mod better...

now that would RAWK!!:cool:

[legacy-Buckyfg]

Originally posted by kEKS
looks fookin nice, but it's too damn big for a dm map. seriously, to me the scale seems WWAAAYY off. running around for ages without seeing any enemies isn't that much fun.
its very impressive though.

seems to me it'll suit a mission of some sp-mod better...

now that would RAWK!!:cool:

Ya if it was a part of a tactical shooter type mod, it would be great

[legacy-Killroy X]

Specs:

AMD 1800xp
512 ram
Geforce 4 ti4200
40gb hd

This map looks amazing, very detailed....can't play it though. Takes 3 minutes to load and then it's stutter city all the way. Tried to move down detail and no bots, not much better. I think this map is for visuals only. It has alot of that. I won't expect to see this map up on a server though. ;)

Someone said Ownage? I don't think it will get that purely because of playability, or lack there of it.

[legacy-marith]

Amazing looking map. AngelHeart's UT maps were detailed as well. I'm looking forward to all of his UT2k3 ones even they aren't your typical playable maps.

Has anyone tried using the "Use" key (default key is U) on some of the devices around the map - for example the Esper in the police station, and one of the phone booths (not the one near the police station). Also in one of back alleys the "Use" key opens up a door which leads to a "sniping" apartment.

Can't wait to see what AH produces in a couple of years time when we've all (hopefully) upgraded to the next generation technology.

/edit - This map makes me want to go and watch the Blade Runner movie now :)

[legacy-Splatter{uD}]

Does Angelheart have a homepage?

[legacy-DeRailer]

His site seems to be down:
http://home.clara.net/jcfal/

[legacy-BoyDamage]

I've heard people saying you can kick aorund the shopping karts and drinks cans but I can't. Nothing in the level moves when shot, should it? I have very high settings with physics on high. Now I am wondering if I am missing Karma physics in the official levels!!


What am I doing worng?

[legacy-Helios]

Originally posted by marith

Has anyone tried using the "Use" key (default key is U) on some of the devices around the map - for example the Esper in the police station, and one of the phone booths (not the one near the police station). Also in one of back alleys the "Use" key opens up a door which leads to a "sniping" apartment.


:eek:UT2k3 has a use key???

[Kyllian]

Originally posted by MacHine2k
WOW :eek:

I WANT THIS MAP!!!

Better have a dam high end system, map is 50 megs

I'm not sure if its been fixed or what, but a buddy checked it out and discovered that there was no anti-portal use on the original.

For the n00bs out there, if there is no anti-portals, the entire map is being drawn all the time.
AKA If you're in a room with just one door and no windows, even though you just see those 4 walls and the door, the rest of the map is being created by your graphics card, major resource hog.


Originally posted by Helios
:eek:UT2k3 has a use key???

You're just finding this out now?! :weird:

[legacy-Doctor7]

Originally posted by Kel

AKA If you're in a room with just one door and no windows, even though you just see those 4 walls and the door, the rest of the map is being created by your graphics card, major resource hog.

Only true if the room isn't a zone. As long as the map is properly zoned, it shouldn't need antiportals. This map is zoned although the outside might still benefit from an antiportal or two as that's where most of the detail is.

[Kyllian]

ok, I don't map, so all I know is what a friend that does map tells me. He's a good mapper, just doens't tell me everything since I don't plan on mapping (too much of a headache imo)

[legacy-marith]

Originally posted by BoyDamage
I've heard people saying you can kick aorund the shopping karts and drinks cans but I can't. Nothing in the level moves when shot, should it? I have very high settings with physics on high. Now I am wondering if I am missing Karma physics in the official levels!!
Yes you can shoot all those things. I have moved the following in this level by shooting at it: Shopping Karts, drinks cans, wine bottles, bowls of chinese food, hanging chinese lanterns, beer crates and black rubbish bags. In the official level BR-Slaughterhouse you can move the meat cleavers and some of the lights by shooting at them.

What am I doing worng? Not sure why it doesn't work on your PC, but try reducing the MinDesiredFrameRate to 0 in your UT2003.ini file. Warning: This may affect your normal framerate so you may want to put it back to what it was originally for normal play.

[legacy-Teddie]

He might need to set his physics detail to a higher setting. I dunno. Mine's always on high.

[legacy-Helios]

Originally posted by Kel

You're just finding this out now?! :weird:

Yeah, never searched for it though I couldn't think off anything UT2k3 would need a usekey for.

Btw Buckyfg hehe actually I play all the maps at that detail :p, it just needs some getting used too after you played with a higher rez but after a while everything looks as beautifull as always.
I'm still having probs with some off the maps though :(

[legacy-[VULC]asbestos]

The Karma physics don't work for me either on this map, and I have my physics setting on high. No karma physics in BR-Slaughterhouse either. =\

[legacy-Jigen]

I have the same Karma physics problem, I have my settings correct too...

[T@F]

Well to be truthfull i`v never seen the karma.Only when i die lol
But i did come accross one in BR-Slaughterhouse.
Goto the steps where you score but dont go into the room,Look down the corrodor you should see a hanging lights shoot it and watch it move.
But thats the only one i`v found upto now.
I`v been told the meat moves as well as the hooks but they dont for me?
oh well.
p.s just noticed someone allready posted that oh well.

[legacy-§uper-]V[oose]

The meat doesn't move but the cleavers do.